Rose Russell Clifford
Rose Russell Clifford

They are illegal sorry they break the law coming to the US if we did it to their country we would be jailed or even thrown out the same day. When in Rome !

John Tripp Sheffield
John Tripp Sheffield
  • Rose Russell Clifford

That's an invalid argument Dayna. There was no government & no laws here when Europeans first arrived. And how do you know Rose's ancestors had any involvement anyway??
That's just cliched liberal bs coming out of your backside, trying to make a moot point.

Steinar Andersen
Steinar Andersen
  • Rose Russell Clifford

John, well said.

Oliver Austin
Oliver Austin
  • Rose Russell Clifford

I'm not American, but the slaughter of millions of native Americans by both Europeans and Americans following the constitution amounts to genocide. Regardless of whether there was 'a government or laws', the American dream realised in the great 'manifest destiny' and the quasi-eradication of a civilised peoples is equivalent to a systematic re-population of the Americas.

David Polk
David Polk
  • Rose Russell Clifford

yes most definately, if their laws said we could not, but they had no law against us coming over

Rude Calderon
Rude Calderon
  • Rose Russell Clifford

There were respected agreements within Native American nations, here in Mexico, in Peru, they just weren't European laws. Come on you didn't know that, or are you in historical denial?

Robi Schwab
Robi Schwab
  • Rose Russell Clifford

John Tripp Sheffield. What are you trying to prove with your idiotic statement regarding Dayna McCamley's comment. You're a liar and you KNOW that. God's Ten Commandments were very well in place AND known by everyone during America's genocide of the Native Poeple there. So DON'T come and try to blame the non existing American Law for your ancestors' ungodly sadistic behavior toward these poor innocent Native Americans. Just what kind of a human being ARE you trying to justify MURDER and then...

John Tripp Sheffield. What are you trying to prove with your idiotic statement regarding Dayna McCamley's comment. You're a liar and you KNOW that. God's Ten Commandments were very well in place AND known by everyone during America's genocide of the Native Poeple there. So DON'T come and try to blame the non existing American Law for your ancestors' ungodly sadistic behavior toward these poor innocent Native Americans. Just what kind of a human being ARE you trying to justify MURDER and then on top of that try to convince people that it's the correct thing to do.

Robi Schwab
Robi Schwab
  • Rose Russell Clifford

So what's your point. Because THEIR laws allowed you to move to their country this means you can slaughter them?

Jim Shott
Jim Shott
  • Rose Russell Clifford

Dayna, my grandparents immigrated legally and had nothing to do with genocide of the natives nor slavery. But I get blamed for both due to being a Caucasian. Is THAT right?

Larry Williamson
Larry Williamson

I agree with the previous poster. They are here illegally. Therefore, they are illegal immigrants. We need immigration reform to give them a path to legal status.

Alexandra Seelig
Alexandra Seelig
  • Larry Williamson

This petition ignores the issue: our immigration system.

Adrienne Schiele
Adrienne Schiele
  • Larry Williamson

No we don't need "immigration reform". We need to ENFORCE our current immigration laws.

Vanessa Cavaliere
Vanessa Cavaliere
  • Larry Williamson

First of all, if we had better control of our borders there wouldn't be illegal immigrants here so it's our fault.

J Patrick Platter
J Patrick Platter

Let's NOT sugar-coat this and use fluffy PC terms to soften the impact of what we're talking about.
Illegal means NOT LEGAL. IMMIGRANT is someone who moves into another country. Therefore, someone who moves into another country by non-legal means is an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT.
Speak the truth, understand the facts.

Marie-Stan Remigereau
Marie-Stan Remigereau
  • J Patrick Platter

On behalf of the LEGAL immigrants in this country, thank you!

Jaden Andrea
Jaden Andrea
  • J Patrick Platter

That's... so... unnecessary.

Alexandra Seelig
Alexandra Seelig
  • J Patrick Platter

Well said. I'm so glad to see someone else equally troubled by America's overly sensitive take on anything remotely involving race.

Melissa Harrison White

If you do not go through the proper procedures, you are here illegally. There's no other way to say it. My husband is moving here from Australia and we are going through all the proper procedures. It's time consuming and costly, but it's LEGAL.

Darlene Thomas
Darlene Thomas
  • Melissa Harrison White

You tell them, Melissa!

Adrienne Schiele
Adrienne Schiele
  • Melissa Harrison White

I wish the two of you all the best!

Alexandra Seelig
Alexandra Seelig
  • Melissa Harrison White

Thank you! It would be an insult to people like you to ignore the people that skip that consuming and costly process.

Loren Butler
Loren Butler

how about we call them criminals, which is the more correct term as they are breaking laws.

Steinar Andersen
Steinar Andersen
  • Loren Butler

Agreed.

David Polk
David Polk
  • Loren Butler

Amen

Beemeth Robles
Beemeth Robles
  • Loren Butler

It is what it is.... just the facts.

Alexandra Seelig
Alexandra Seelig

I am not racist or against immigrants, no matter how they come here. But the point is, it's a factual statement. If you immigrate illegally, you are an illegal immigrant. 'Undocumented' implies that our government has somehow lapsed in not noticing them--this is not the point. We do allow immigrants, but they have to go through a process. Skipping the line is not okay and avoiding a factual and correct term in order to avoid stepping on toes is condoning what they are doing, which is...

I am not racist or against immigrants, no matter how they come here. But the point is, it's a factual statement. If you immigrate illegally, you are an illegal immigrant. 'Undocumented' implies that our government has somehow lapsed in not noticing them--this is not the point. We do allow immigrants, but they have to go through a process. Skipping the line is not okay and avoiding a factual and correct term in order to avoid stepping on toes is condoning what they are doing, which is breaking the law.

If someone runs a red light, then yes, they are driving illegally. But we don't call them an illegal driver because that doesn't describe a constant situation or state. If someone doesn't have a driver's license, then they are an illegal driver because they are in a state of illegality, not just a one-time offender. Illegal immigrants live in America illegally and are likewise in a state of illegality. We aren't saying the humans are illegal--being a human is always legal. However, they are illegal immigrants.

This petition just spotlights a major issue in American culture right now. Our need to be uber-PC might avoid stepping on a few toes right now but ultimately will devastate our morals in the long run. Let’s be honest—the truth is sometimes hard. A rapist is not a nonconsensual sex partner. A drug dealer is not an undocumented pharmacist. No one is worried about hurting their feelings clearly.

I understand that America is truly the land of promise for many. I sympathize with many citizens, especially those in Mexico oppressed under a corrupt government and stuck in a cycle of poverty. But in our compassion, let us not condone breaking the law and teach that laws are only to be followed when things are easy. This petition skews the issue. Rather than a simple term, we should be focusing on how we can aid oppressed people and streamline the immigration process to make it feasible for foreigners, especially Mexican citizens to live in America.

I am not anti-immigrant. My family immigrated from Germany in the 60s and we did it legally. There is no reason why other people should not be called out for skipping the process and breaking the line when people like my family follow America's policy.

Steinar Andersen
Steinar Andersen
  • Alexandra Seelig

This legal immigrant agrees with you.

Lewis Bloomfield
Lewis Bloomfield
  • Alexandra Seelig

ok then Ross, how about criminal. Lets just call them criminals, all those criminals, because that sounds better right!??

Jesus this thing is full of all sorts of stupid.

William Brummett
William Brummett
  • Alexandra Seelig

Ross Warsing and they do it everyday so they are illegal

Mike Nolan
Mike Nolan
  • Alexandra Seelig

Actually, no criminal laws have been broken by individuals who entered the country without documents. Your statement shows bitterness rather than facts.

David Polk
David Polk
  • Alexandra Seelig

I agree lets call them by the name that they are lawbreaking, tax money stealing, immigrants that come here illegally by breaking the law set forth in our land

Sharyn Beers
Sharyn Beers
  • Alexandra Seelig

Actually, the correct legal term is "illegal alien". The word "immigrant" means one who intends to settle in a place, which illegal aliens could not do because their presence here is illegal, meaning against the law. The word "alien" means only that they are not US citizens. Therefore, any term other than "illegal alien" is legally incorrect.

William Larry Stockton

no matter it is they still illegal keep it that way if that's the case call prisoners bystanders what's the different both broke the law keep it the same as it is.

William Stockton
William Stockton
  • William Larry Stockton

if you are illegal you are a illegal what we going to call convicts now bystanders there is no different in between the two

David Mascarenhas Watkins

What a wad of crap. No, if a driver runs a red light he is not an illegal driver. But if a kid drives without a license he is.... you guessed it! Driving illegally! No one said they are illegal human. This is about being an immigrant, but illegally. Thus, an illegal immigrant. What a waste of internet space.

Frederico Silva
Frederico Silva
  • David Mascarenhas Watkins

Completely agree!

Katherine Black
Katherine Black

Think about it people we may have been here longer but unless ur Native American we all came to this country from some where else

Rebecca Dreller
Rebecca Dreller
  • Katherine Black

You don't seem to realize that your basis for argument is moot? EVERY country in the world is filled w/aboriginal peoples who got crapped upon somewhere along the way. I didn't do it, and neither did my recent ancestors. Even so, many of our 'Native Americans' were in fact NOT native either. Next.........

M Raghavendra Rao
M Raghavendra Rao

NYT, stop using the term " illegal immigrant " When you intentionally utilize their services why you use that demoralizing term. Respect all individuals as your own relation.

Adrienne Schiele
Adrienne Schiele
  • M Raghavendra Rao

They disrespect us by coming in the "back door"and then demanding all the benefits they didn't earn, and expecting everyone here to speak their language.

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