Deanna Mae Holloway
Deanna Mae Holloway

Either love this country with all of it's religious memorials and our freedoms to express our love and appreciation for those who have fought for these freedoms or take the first plane to Afghanistan and join the other God haters!

Bill Skaggs
Bill Skaggs
  • Deanna Mae Holloway

So forget about the Constitution and kick out all the non-Christians?

Jack Cunningham
Jack Cunningham

Chip God Away One Day At A Time

This is another disgrace. Call your members of Congress. Get involved...

Military Academy may drop the phrase SO HELP ME GOD

http://www.americans-working-together.com/stop_abuse_of_political_power/id18.html

Bill Skaggs
Bill Skaggs
  • Jack Cunningham

Not every American is Christian. I don't care if you worship your god, but don't force others to do so under the guise of patriotism. A non-Christian can serve our country as well as any.

Esti Allina-Turnauer
Esti Allina-Turnauer

I think it matters more that it honors the vets, not a particular religion. Freedom From Religion appear to be a kind of hate group from their actions. What do the VETS think about this memorial? Do THEY feels honored by it? I think that's ALL that matters.

Bill Skaggs
Bill Skaggs
  • Esti Allina-Turnauer

Then remove the cross and replace it with one that doesn't favor Christianity. What's the problem with that? Do you think that non-Christian vets feel that this memorializes them?

Ed Borman
Ed Borman

I just have one question, what do they think is placed at the head of each grave at Arlington Cemetery, the flag? If the cross is acceptable on the graves, then why is not acceptable on the memorial.

Cecelia Smith
Cecelia Smith
  • Ed Borman

Exactly, I agree with you.

Patrick Quinn
Patrick Quinn
  • Ed Borman

This religious symbol is at a public park and is not a private grave.

Suzanne Strache
Suzanne Strache
  • Ed Borman

At Arlington, or an cemetery, a grave marker represents the individual buried there. That person had the right to declare any religious affiliation and have that be represented on their grave marker. A memorial is not a grave, and does not represent one individual's personal choice of religious symbolism. It is supposed to represent ALL veterans who served there, not just the ones who identify with the cross.

Rodney Boyles
Rodney Boyles
  • Ed Borman

What do the veterans say about it? Does the cross bother the wounded, the broken or the dead?

Thomas Melas
Thomas Melas
  • Ed Borman

I am starting to believe, after listening to this debate go back and forth, that the only people in this country who should be allowed a vote on any matter are the veterans of this country - the rest of the country seems to be rapidly approaching a level of pettiness and stupidity that makes me wonder if any of you are worth our time and the sacrifices we've made for this country on your behalf. Any monument is a good monument and a pretty cheap and easy way to say thank you, don't you...

I am starting to believe, after listening to this debate go back and forth, that the only people in this country who should be allowed a vote on any matter are the veterans of this country - the rest of the country seems to be rapidly approaching a level of pettiness and stupidity that makes me wonder if any of you are worth our time and the sacrifices we've made for this country on your behalf. Any monument is a good monument and a pretty cheap and easy way to say thank you, don't you think? In the end, the lesson from any monument is very simple, remember those who actually paid for decisions made by those you elected, and count the actual cost in men and money before you make a similar choice in the future. Don't go around kicking over what someone else has built; if it offends you, build one in your own design, send your own version of the message. Life is offensive, but not as offensive as you people wasting your life on matters that are of no real consequence. Build a better monument, right beside any you don't like, or take the word freedom out of the name of your group because you have corrupted the very concept to fit a personal agenda built from too much time on the internet and not enough time in the real world.

Julane Jazzique
Julane Jazzique

F. PC. No more bowing down to the evil that is, Political Correctness. It's Not correct, it is undoing all that is good in our country. Why is there never Tolerance from the PC

Patrick Quinn
Patrick Quinn
  • Julane Jazzique

@Julane Jazzique, tolerance would start with not erecting a Christian symbol on public property. You are confusing "political correctness" with constitutional rights.

Julane Jazzique
Julane Jazzique
  • Julane Jazzique

Patrick. I'm Jewish. I tolerate the Cross because it is a symbolic meaning of Tolerance. It is intolerantance, that is dividing our country. Cloaked in PC . People who are PC, that is their religion of intolerance , must be their way, or no way. Somewhat Nazi like, since The IRS, fanatics, etc will go after you. Our Countries heritage is based on Judeo/ Christian values. Our Constitution was written to also gaurd those values.

Patrick Quinn
Patrick Quinn
  • Julane Jazzique

So? Your point was lost when you evoked Godwin's Law and ran off on some incoherent non sequitur about the IRS. If you take a moment to review your own history, you will quickly realize tolerance is not a word one would associate with Christianity.

Julane Jazzique
Julane Jazzique
  • Julane Jazzique

When leaders and People use their religions as power over people, like The Religion Of PC. Christianty is Based on A Jewish Teacher, whom some call the Messiah. His teachings never included what people have done in Jesus name. That is people doing that. Governments, people, doing that. The IRS was an example of how the intolerant use their power to decimate those of a differing view. No Tolerance. I'm curious, since you bring up long ago history of evil done upon humans in the name of...

When leaders and People use their religions as power over people, like The Religion Of PC. Christianty is Based on A Jewish Teacher, whom some call the Messiah. His teachings never included what people have done in Jesus name. That is people doing that. Governments, people, doing that. The IRS was an example of how the intolerant use their power to decimate those of a differing view. No Tolerance. I'm curious, since you bring up long ago history of evil done upon humans in the name of Christ. Why do you PC types not bring up the present time horror done to woman ,children, animals in the name of Islam? How come you keep quiet about those Present time atrocities , yet gather like jackels against long ago events done in the name of Christianty. See, the PC religion is very hypocritical.

Robert Gootz
Robert Gootz

I am appealing to every God Loving Veteran, American Citizen and active Service Man and Woman to please click on the link and sign the petition to stop the removal of this Vietnam Memorial in Mingus Park, Coos Bay Oregon. It's not a big or fancy memorial, but it does belong to the 58,282 service men and women who gave up all their tomorrow for your today's it also belongs to 303,644 who were wounded and let's not forget the 1,652 MIA's who still remain there where about unknown and don't...

I am appealing to every God Loving Veteran, American Citizen and active Service Man and Woman to please click on the link and sign the petition to stop the removal of this Vietnam Memorial in Mingus Park, Coos Bay Oregon. It's not a big or fancy memorial, but it does belong to the 58,282 service men and women who gave up all their tomorrow for your today's it also belongs to 303,644 who were wounded and let's not forget the 1,652 MIA's who still remain there where about unknown and don't forget about their families who have suffered for years without an accounting of their husbands, fathers, brothers and friends last but certainly not least the 779 POW's who suffered years of torture and torment at the hands of their enemy at the Hanoi Hilton and other POW prisons and stayed true to their brothers in arms through a living Hell. But to some that does not matter, the only thing that matters to them is that this Memorial has a Cross on it and they find it offensive, let me ask you something if someone tried to take a cross off your loved one's final resting place would you allow it or would you fight? So let's fight for those who died giving us the right, we are still Americans are we not. Please share and email and don't forget to click on the link and sign the petition.

Semper Fidelis

Sgt. Gootz
USMC 66-69
Alpha 1/4 RVN 67-68.
3rd Mar. Divi.

Sandy Valencour
Sandy Valencour
  • Robert Gootz

I'd fight for any veteran that has a cross or any other symbol requested on their final resting place. Nam is getting it again and it truly pisses me off! If offended, these idiots can look away from the cross!

Eddie Van Winkle
Eddie Van Winkle
  • Robert Gootz

AMEN Sandy, When is our Govt. both local and Fed. going to stand up to this anti Christ trash that is telling us we can't have crosses on anything military. My blood pressure goes radical when I read about this trash. They may start a revolution!!!! I guarantee, believer or not, Every knee will bow in judgement before our Lord. Stand up Christians for our God and our vets....

Don Bomar
Don Bomar
  • Robert Gootz

As one of the people who built this memorial and vet, It means alot more to us than it does them.... the military has used a cross to mark the graves of fallen soldiers for many years and is to honor the dead more than to honor Christ.. to Honor Christ is up to each individual.

Greg Talbot III
Greg Talbot III
  • Robert Gootz

Thanks for sharing this, Robert Gootz. I have signed the petition, shared the link on my walll, and encouraged my fb friends to do the same. We must stand up against this so-called Freedom FROM Religion Foundation, en mass, any time they show up anywhere. Resist, nullify and expose!

Suzanne Strache
Suzanne Strache
  • Robert Gootz

Sandy V: "I'd fight for any veteran that has a cross or any other symbol requested on their final resting place." So would I! That would be their right. But this is not a grave. This is a memorial on public property, and the cross doesn't represent all who fought. I believe they ALL deserve honor and thanks. Not only the Christians.

Bernie Brendt
Bernie Brendt

I am a Vietnam Vet and a CHRISTIAN and very proud of both! None believers should just leave things alone!

Barb Donabedian
Barb Donabedian
  • Bernie Brendt

Thank you for serving Bernie!

Carmen Hastings
Carmen Hastings

Please continue the fight for our rights to sport our troops...Thank God they tusked their lives to fight for us! My entire family is military, WWII, Vietnam, Desert Storm, now....come on people, stand up for those who stood up for u!! God Bless America & American Soldiers!!

Jill Cooke
Jill Cooke
  • Carmen Hastings

Christians aren't the only ones who served in wars. They don't get a special privilege by the government.

Mike Gantnier
Mike Gantnier

If they are allowed to remove one, which one will be next? The wall in DC?

Patrick Quinn
Patrick Quinn
  • Mike Gantnier

The Wall in D.C. Is not a religious symbol.

Mike Peters
Mike Peters

You don't have to believe in the same God as I do. But remember respect is deserved to all Vietnam veterans for their servive as do all veterans.

Suzanne Strache
Suzanne Strache
  • Mike Peters

Respect IS deserved, to ALL the Vietnam veterans. Not only the Christians.

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