Gays weren't allowed in yet, so there goes that argument. Yes Susan one signature will make a difference because it's followed by another one signature. As someone said don't forget this country was built on the backs of veterans.
What about the non-Christian veterans? Shouldn't they be included?
Chip God Away One Day At A Time
This is another disgrace. Call your members of Congress. Get involved...
Military Academy may drop the phrase SO HELP ME GOD
Not every American is Christian. I don't care if you worship your god, but don't force others to do so under the guise of patriotism. A non-Christian can serve our country as well as any.
Either love this country with all of it's religious memorials and our freedoms to express our love and appreciation for those who have fought for these freedoms or take the first plane to Afghanistan and join the other God haters!
So forget about the Constitution and kick out all the non-Christians?
I think it matters more that it honors the vets, not a particular religion. Freedom From Religion appear to be a kind of hate group from their actions. What do the VETS think about this memorial? Do THEY feels honored by it? I think that's ALL that matters.
Then remove the cross and replace it with one that doesn't favor Christianity. What's the problem with that? Do you think that non-Christian vets feel that this memorializes them?
DOESN'T SURPRISE ME IN THE LEAST, AS OBAMA HAS NEVER BEEN IN THE ARMED FORCES NOR IN BATTLE AS OUR BRAVE SOLDIERS HAVE, AND TO DINIGRATE THEM IN THIS WAY IS A SIN, AND I BELIEVE ALL TRUE AMERICANS CAN SEE THE EVIL IN THIS LATEST THING AGAINST OUR COUNTRY,
AND OUR MEN IN UNIFORM, SHAME ON THIS ADMINISTRATION FOR THIS TERRIBLE THING, SEEMS THEY DO NOT RESPECT THIS U.S.A. AS ANY TRUE AMERICN SHOULD..
Hitler was the same way called himself to deceive while destroying Germany then took the useful idiots to war and caused 50 million to die
He said he was a Christian to get their vote and because everything was a so called Christian they fell for it
I want to apologize to all veterans, but especially to those who fought in Viet Nam. I came up in the 60's and personally witnessed the pstd(they hadn't even had the term then;) that the men from my neighborhood came back with, including my first love. To insult them, their families, and those who gave their lives is more than out of line; it is sacrilige. This type of protest shows a society in decline. No matter what this country's faults; people all over the world want to come and live in the land of the free and the home of the brave.
@Maxine Hardy Hammond, Obama has nothing to do with this issue. Why are you insinuating that he is behind this complaint? Veterans filed this complaint, not Obama.
Anything to do with veterans we as Americans should stand up and speak for those who can't speak for themselves. I am a disabled veteran. I was involved during the Gulf War Era and I waded the jungles of Panama for 5 years to exclude Noreiga and all his funkiest. Thank God I made it home. But for those in worse shape than me I salute you.
Yes. Blame Obama. It needs to eat him from the inside out because he has never faced the Hell. You can't make decisions unless you have been there and done that. Leave the veterans alone and let their family's come to term, if they can.
In God we Trust in on our Money. The Cross should stay. Muslins ans Atheists getwhat they want all the time . What about the Christains?
Dawna Strickland, In God We Trust will be challenged soon enough. Originally, our currency didn't have this motto on it. IGWT was not added until 1956 during the Cold War (1863 to some pennies during the Civil War). E pluribus unum worked well until being later altered. The Founders did not use IGWT.
The veterns I know are Christain and believe in God. You must not. You must be like are Antichrist President
omg Dawna Strickland,are you so personally acquainted with our President to know for sure about his religious beliefs? I am so tired of everyone bashing any President. Please show some respect and keep such outlandish opinions to yourself.
Dawn, In God We Trust was only added in 1957 by religious lawmakers. Secondly, atheists and Muslims don't get what they want all the time. The memorial represents just Christians on government maintained property. That is illegal.
Having religion is our given right we can express it...free country!! Freedom
At your place of worship or on your private property you are free to do as you please. However, you are not free to erect permanent religious symbols on public property for your personal benefit.
1st amendment freedom of speech, press and peaceable assembly protects our rights of expression- A solution to the dilemma is to throw Michelin Tyres over the cross to cover it from view & make a statement of what the Viet Nam War was all about- It was a "Police Action" because the purpose was to protect the Wall Street investments in the Michellin Tyre Corporation. How do I know this? In 1987 the Army Map Service surveyed the entire country from DMZ to Mekong Delta for accurate artillery...
1st amendment freedom of speech, press and peaceable assembly protects our rights of expression- A solution to the dilemma is to throw Michelin Tyres over the cross to cover it from view & make a statement of what the Viet Nam War was all about- It was a "Police Action" because the purpose was to protect the Wall Street investments in the Michellin Tyre Corporation. How do I know this? In 1987 the Army Map Service surveyed the entire country from DMZ to Mekong Delta for accurate artillery maps JIT for Tet offensive. We measured 1000's of acres of Michellin Tyre Corp. where we were NOT allowed to conduct combat operations. When an aircraft went down, we surveyed tree damage & issued documents authorizing US Treasury to reimburse Michellin Tyre Corp. for damages inflicted on thier property by US armed forces- Bet U didn't know it.
I meant 1967, NOT 1987 as I was 27yrs old then- born 1939
It is usually about money production !
Individuals can express their beliefs, sure. But the government cannot. It must remain neutral. And religious messages and symbols on government property constitute government speech. Public property must remain neutral in regards to religion.
YOU KNOW WHAT!!!! I AM GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF ALL THOSE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WANT TO WHINE AND MOAN ABOUT STUFF LIKE THERE BEING A CROSS. THIS COUNTRY WAS BUILT ON A FOUNDATION OF FAITH AND MANY HAVE FOUGHT AND GAVE THEIR LIVES FOR IT, BUT JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE OFFENDED BY A CROSS, YOU THINK WE SHOULD CHANGE EVERYTHING FOR YOU. I AM OFFENDED BY YOU WANTING TO CHANGE OUR HISTORY, SO I HAVE AN IDEA,,,,,LETS GET RID OF YOU!! I COULD SAY SO MUCH MORE BUT I WILL STOP HERE BEFORE I REALLY GET UPSET!
Actually, The United States is a secular nation founded by deists who wanted to avoid a theocracy.
I just have one question, what do they think is placed at the head of each grave at Arlington Cemetery, the flag? If the cross is acceptable on the graves, then why is not acceptable on the memorial.
Exactly, I agree with you.
This religious symbol is at a public park and is not a private grave.
At Arlington, or an cemetery, a grave marker represents the individual buried there. That person had the right to declare any religious affiliation and have that be represented on their grave marker. A memorial is not a grave, and does not represent one individual's personal choice of religious symbolism. It is supposed to represent ALL veterans who served there, not just the ones who identify with the cross.
What do the veterans say about it? Does the cross bother the wounded, the broken or the dead?
I am starting to believe, after listening to this debate go back and forth, that the only people in this country who should be allowed a vote on any matter are the veterans of this country - the rest of the country seems to be rapidly approaching a level of pettiness and stupidity that makes me wonder if any of you are worth our time and the sacrifices we've made for this country on your behalf. Any monument is a good monument and a pretty cheap and easy way to say thank you, don't you...
I am starting to believe, after listening to this debate go back and forth, that the only people in this country who should be allowed a vote on any matter are the veterans of this country - the rest of the country seems to be rapidly approaching a level of pettiness and stupidity that makes me wonder if any of you are worth our time and the sacrifices we've made for this country on your behalf. Any monument is a good monument and a pretty cheap and easy way to say thank you, don't you think? In the end, the lesson from any monument is very simple, remember those who actually paid for decisions made by those you elected, and count the actual cost in men and money before you make a similar choice in the future. Don't go around kicking over what someone else has built; if it offends you, build one in your own design, send your own version of the message. Life is offensive, but not as offensive as you people wasting your life on matters that are of no real consequence. Build a better monument, right beside any you don't like, or take the word freedom out of the name of your group because you have corrupted the very concept to fit a personal agenda built from too much time on the internet and not enough time in the real world.