Roxanne Hinkle
Roxanne Hinkle

Our Government has gone STUPID..WE SEND LIVE BEINGS BOTH 4 AND TWO LEGGED and they suffer and die but these upgraded video game operators who fly a RC plane can get higher awards of Honor..??!!Have you the Government really gone that cuckoo..Wakeup you friggin Asswipes we the human military are the real Heroes most who never get recognized and even after returning home from war have to fight for compensations and decent medical

Amos Knox
Amos Knox
  • Roxanne Hinkle

Drone operators aren't just upgraded video games you dumb bitch granted they don't deserve higher ranks that live soldiers they do deserve respect. They go through the same training to be apart of our military. Wow people like you disgust me

Leon Stewart
Leon Stewart
  • Roxanne Hinkle

you sound like someone who needs to droned! Video game operators don't put themselves in hames way. What branch of the military did you serve in?

Van William Svensson
Van William Svensson
  • Roxanne Hinkle

Leon, well said sir. Having spent time in both Iraq and Afghanistan as a contractor the men and women in uniform deserve the highest credit for their service. I have the utmost respect for the remote drone program, but someone who feels the sting of battle should not be taken for granted.

Dennie Thurmond
Dennie Thurmond
  • Roxanne Hinkle

Amos Knox Have you ever been in the MILITARY. I am a retired SFC And was in Vietnam 36 Mo. and got only 2 Arcom's. People in my Team 14 Were exposed to war time problems all the time. If they do this award it should be just below the national svc award. If you dont under stand this, let me know and i will send you a copy of myaward's

Michelle Poston Cannon
Michelle Poston Cannon
  • Roxanne Hinkle

@ Roxanne Hinkle you rock lady! How about we make you

Michelle Poston Cannon
Michelle Poston Cannon
  • Roxanne Hinkle

Sry I hit reply before I finished. I say we replace Chuck Hagel with a voice like yours! .

Frank Barnett
Frank Barnett
  • Roxanne Hinkle

Come on, Roxy, give the drone operators a break. Playing video games all day is stressful. Look how many of them get Purple Hearts - paper cut in the line of duty.
Seriously, I agree with you. My dad got a Purple Heart. He took 7 rounds, then crawled nearly a half mile through the snow before being captured by the Germans. They took him to their version of a MASH unit and saved his life, then he spent the next 2 years in a POW camp somewhere in France, until liberated by Americans. You bet I...

Come on, Roxy, give the drone operators a break. Playing video games all day is stressful. Look how many of them get Purple Hearts - paper cut in the line of duty.
Seriously, I agree with you. My dad got a Purple Heart. He took 7 rounds, then crawled nearly a half mile through the snow before being captured by the Germans. They took him to their version of a MASH unit and saved his life, then he spent the next 2 years in a POW camp somewhere in France, until liberated by Americans. You bet I support our fighting men and women. Our drone operators are an important part of operations. They probably save many lives doing safely from a desk, what use to take a team of warriors on the ground. BUT, they do not have to face the dangers of our warriors on the ground, hence they do not deserve combat medals.

Steven Soucy
Steven Soucy
  • Roxanne Hinkle

Your an ignorant ass they fly out of Afghanistan where my brother is right now he is a drone operator an I may never see him again cause incase you haven't heard its a combat zone

Steven Soucy
Steven Soucy
  • Roxanne Hinkle

Frank your an idiot they fly from Afghanistan where they can get blown up just as easy learn your facts

Spartacous Cacao
Spartacous Cacao
  • Roxanne Hinkle

Drones strikes will be used against Americans soon, since the elite are preparing a civil war, people think they are going to be on the winning team with the big banker mafia that runs our military hahaha! they don't care about you. Smedley Butler and Eisenhower warned us of the industrial military complex and the fascist you serve, line up and get chipped or your "Vaccine".

John Tufts
John Tufts

Drone pilots are an important part of the combat misson but they are able to return to their familes at the end of their shift. These individuals are not risking their lives and should not be given a higher award than the soldiers that are in harms way every day.

Nelson Nolasco
Nelson Nolasco
  • John Tufts

i agree with you john although admirable but being a drone operator is not the same as infantry, truck driver, special forces, medic to name a few who are exposed to hostile fire on a daily basis in combat.

Steven Soucy
Steven Soucy
  • John Tufts

You are completely wrong in your whole comment my brother is a drone pilot in Afghanistan right now which in case you haven't hear is a combat zone where he. Can be killed like the front line learn your facts they don't fly in America so I might not ever see him again

Kenny Williams
Kenny Williams
  • John Tufts

Nelson Nolasco I agree.

Enrique Ivan Rueda
Enrique Ivan Rueda
  • John Tufts

Steven, thank you for defending your brother, but you have no fucking idea of what you are talking about. So better let us military do the comments. Thank you.

Will Bogert
Will Bogert
  • John Tufts

And on what super FOB is he living on? He is nowhere near the "front line" as you call it. Mostly because such a thing doesnt exist. So before you argue with combat veterans you should first know what your talking about. But I'm sure he will be miserable if his green beans closes.

Mark Schmitt
Mark Schmitt
  • John Tufts

Enrique Ivan Rueda - you have no idea what YOU"RE talking about, just as everyone else commenting about this medal. Did you even read the criteria for the medal? For starters, the Distinguished Warfare Medal is NOT a valor award and the criteria for the award specifically states that. There are several non-valor medals that outrank the Purple Heart, as well as the Silver Star and the Bronze Star, such as the Defense Distinguished Service Medal and the Distinguished Service Medals of each...

Enrique Ivan Rueda - you have no idea what YOU"RE talking about, just as everyone else commenting about this medal. Did you even read the criteria for the medal? For starters, the Distinguished Warfare Medal is NOT a valor award and the criteria for the award specifically states that. There are several non-valor medals that outrank the Purple Heart, as well as the Silver Star and the Bronze Star, such as the Defense Distinguished Service Medal and the Distinguished Service Medals of each branch. Nobody is complaining about those non-valor awards outranking valor awards and these medals are only awarded to General officers upon completion of a command rotation or retirement - no combat required. I can tell you right now that Remotely Piloted Aircraft (RPA) operators (they aren't drones, those are used for aerial target practice) are actively participating in combat on a daily basis

Secondly, the Bronze Star itself is not just awarded for combat valor. It is also awarded for meritorious service in a "combat zone". Not to mention, it was also given to ANY service member who had been awarded a Combat Infantry Badge during World War II. The Bronze Star has already been deflated over the years by the prevalence at which it's been awarded.

Lastly, and most importantly, this award isn't taking away from anything that anybody else did. As an MQ-1B Sensor Operator, I know I'll never be in a situation where I'll get put in for a Bronze Star w/ Valor, Silver Star, Air Force Cross, or Medal of Honor. I don't look down upon those that did earn those medals, in fact, I salute them. But me earning this medal and them earning those medals doesn't mean I'm better than them. It means that I do a different job, one that they have come to rely very heavily on. Warfare has changed and so will the awards. Just as the Medal of Honor has become a rarity and the amount of casualties has been greatly diminished compared to wars of the past, the military is moving more and more towards technology that keeps troops out of harm's way. It's no different when archers took to the battlefield of medievel Europe - they were called cowards and unethical but they were the difference between winning and losing. Every technological warfare advance that gave an advantage has been called the same. Guns faced it. Tanks faced it. Airplanes faced it. Even fighting out in the open like in the Revolution or Napoleonic wars was "gentlemanly" and guerrilla tactics were cowardly. Look what is used now - guerrilla tactics, tanks, planes, guns, and now RPAs... and the newest technology is the one being hated on, as history repeats itself once more. The only thing an RPA is - a new weapon system that gives us the advantage, which ultimately is no different than using an F-15E or an A-10.

The DoD made this award and ranked it themselves. This isn't one branch's award, it's for the entire military. The SecDef and the Joint Chiefs are the ones who ranked it where it is. They're the ones who get paid the money to make the big decisions and they had their reasons. I, as an Air Force NCO, support their decision. As an RPA operator, I applaud the decision as the RPA crews don't get the recognition that they deserve for the work that they do - what we do get is protested by the liberal public, hated on by the news media, and berated by our own brothers/sisters in arms (quite frankly, the soldiers coming back from 'Nam were getting treated better). RPA operators DO deploy to combat zones, have been under hostile fire such as base attacks with small arms fire, mortars, and suicide bombers. And to top that off, those idiot protestors at our gates think it's cute to take pictures of us and our vehicled (complete with license plate numbers) and post that shit on Youtube for any potential terrorist to come find us that much easier while we're at home with our families. I deploy to war and I come home to war. The only time I get away from it is that very rare time that I can actually take leave (most of us are very heavy on the use/lose leave because we're rarely allowed to actually use our leave).

Jeff Collier
Jeff Collier
  • John Tufts

STILL doesn't matter WHAT they want --- will mean ALL those who shed blood and were awarded BRONZE,SILVER--P.H ETC---shed and DID WHAT THEY DID --NOTHING. REALLY says a lot when you sit in a chair and PLAY a VID GAME--thats all it takes to FLY ONE of these---MY RADIO CONTROL B-17--has 2 mini-cams--4 ENGINES and takes 2 HOURS to ASSEMBLE---total wing span is 14 feet---BET I can FLY a DRONE with NO PROBLEMS--as to the controls--I have more to do as ALL operating surfaces and GEAR work---so AS...

STILL doesn't matter WHAT they want --- will mean ALL those who shed blood and were awarded BRONZE,SILVER--P.H ETC---shed and DID WHAT THEY DID --NOTHING. REALLY says a lot when you sit in a chair and PLAY a VID GAME--thats all it takes to FLY ONE of these---MY RADIO CONTROL B-17--has 2 mini-cams--4 ENGINES and takes 2 HOURS to ASSEMBLE---total wing span is 14 feet---BET I can FLY a DRONE with NO PROBLEMS--as to the controls--I have more to do as ALL operating surfaces and GEAR work---so AS I SAID--GOOD CONDUCT and then the "DRONES". OH did I forget to mention I also can fly a real plane---

Mark Schmitt
Mark Schmitt
  • John Tufts

More ignorance from Jeff Collier. It's not a video game and it's not an RC toy. The pilots are fully qualified, rated pilots - most coming from other airframes such as fighters, bombers, and cargos. You don't know what you're talking about and by your comments, it's evident that you didn't read the actual award criteria for the new medal. It is NOT a valor award and will not be used as such.

Joshua Humphrey
Joshua Humphrey
  • John Tufts

Sorry Steven, I did a tour in Iraq doing QRF missions. The statistical chance of a random mortar landing on the building the drone operator is in is slim to none. When your brother drives down route Irish or Michigan in Iraq or does patrols in Tora Bora etc then he may deserve an award for valor in combat.

Michael Murphy
Michael Murphy
  • John Tufts

Steven Soucy i totally think you're brother should get some kind of medal for what he does, but it shouldn't be over a bronze star, that some of my buddies have died for.

William Hester
William Hester

To give out a non combat award as the "Distinguished Warfare Medal" to someone that sits behind a screen operating a RC Drone and have it rank higher than a medal awarded to someone in combat is as ludicrous as approving Hagel for Secretary of Defense. Stupid does stupid as this administration has done many of times before and all they are doing is destroying the military structure. Combat medals shall always be ranked higher than a butt in the seat award. Thank all you idiots for voting for this president and I hope that you are happy.

Jenifer Markoe
Jenifer Markoe
  • William Hester

I am happy Obama won because being disable and 100% service connected I know my check is going to show up. Also Obama Budget for the VA is 6 billions more then Romney/Ryans plan. As far blaming Hagel for this this award you can't since it was put out there before he became Sec of Defense. Since he has severed and is a combat veteran he knows the importance of getting this changed and I have no doubt he will.

Sandy Valencour
Sandy Valencour
  • William Hester

WILLIAM GROW UP. THIS IS NOT THE POTUS'S DECISION, IT WAS MILITARY!

James Montgomery
James Montgomery
  • William Hester

Jenifer Markoe apparently you did not watch Hagel's confirmation hearings. If you had you would know that even though he served he is not qualified. I know plenty of people that served that I would not think would make a good Secretary of Defense.

Mark Schmitt
Mark Schmitt
  • William Hester

@ Hester - There are several non-valor medals that outrank the Purple Heart, as well as the Silver Star and the Bronze Star, such as the Defense Distinguished Service Medal and the Distinguished Service Medals of each branch. Nobody is complaining about those non-valor awards outranking valor awards and these medals are only awarded to General officers upon completion of a command rotation or retirement - no combat required. Or did you conveniently forget about those in your mission to...

@ Hester - There are several non-valor medals that outrank the Purple Heart, as well as the Silver Star and the Bronze Star, such as the Defense Distinguished Service Medal and the Distinguished Service Medals of each branch. Nobody is complaining about those non-valor awards outranking valor awards and these medals are only awarded to General officers upon completion of a command rotation or retirement - no combat required. Or did you conveniently forget about those in your mission to berate the service of the Airmen who operate Remotely Piloted Aircraft in direct support of combat operations?

Mark Schmitt
Mark Schmitt
  • William Hester

Jenifer Markoe - you're happy that Obama won because you think your check will continue to show up? Really? Did you even consider that your check won't be worth the paper that it's written on with Democrat hyper-inflation? You'll get your check, it won't be worth squat.

Eleanor Jane Fleming Filbert
Eleanor Jane Fleming Filbert
  • William Hester

Jenifer Markoe Wow! I am from a military family going way back and I am blown away with your remark!! My late husband who was retired military and served 3 tours in Vietnam would never agree with you!

Matt Pichelmayer
Matt Pichelmayer

Shitty that this had to be a huge blown up public issue. You jackasses that are running your mouthes, directing your comments towards our Airmen, are idiots. They're not the ones who created the medal, yet they have to put up with your bullshit ridicule; like you even know wtf you're talking about anyways, right? Keep your comments aimed in the right direction; towards the policy makers. Those Airmen don't deserve your shit and most of you aren't qualified to dole it out.

Matthew Turner
Matthew Turner
  • Matt Pichelmayer

Drones deserve every bit of respect and recognition coming their way. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/19/world/asia/air-force-drone-operators-show-high-levels-of-stress.html?_r=0

Joseph Robinson
Joseph Robinson
  • Matt Pichelmayer

I agree with you that the drone operators need recognition and respect but to have a medal higher than someone that is or was actually in combat is B.S. I served for 20 years as an Infantryman for all 20 years and yes I have been to combat and received a combat infantrymans badge but to put the Distinguished Warfare Medal higher than that of a Purple Heart or Bronze Star is ridiculous if you ask me.

Jim Tressler
Jim Tressler
  • Matt Pichelmayer

mr turner you are a real stupid person and i bet you never served in combat.... and if so you are probably a drone operator !!!!

Mark Schmitt
Mark Schmitt
  • Matt Pichelmayer

Joseph Robinson and Jim Tressler - There are several non-valor medals that outrank the Purple Heart, as well as the Silver Star and the Bronze Star, such as the Defense Distinguished Service Medal and the Distinguished Service Medals of each branch. Nobody is complaining about those non-valor awards outranking valor awards and these medals are only awarded to General officers upon completion of a command rotation or retirement - no combat required. Or did you conveniently forget about those...

Joseph Robinson and Jim Tressler - There are several non-valor medals that outrank the Purple Heart, as well as the Silver Star and the Bronze Star, such as the Defense Distinguished Service Medal and the Distinguished Service Medals of each branch. Nobody is complaining about those non-valor awards outranking valor awards and these medals are only awarded to General officers upon completion of a command rotation or retirement - no combat required. Or did you conveniently forget about those in your mission to berate the service of the Airmen who operate Remotely Piloted Aircraft in direct support of combat operations?

Douglas Bounds
Douglas Bounds

This is about like when Obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize for doing nothing.this is ridiculous they have balked at awarding the Purple Heart to those soldiers who have lost their lives and limbs during combat,

Michelle Poston Cannon
Michelle Poston Cannon
  • Douglas Bounds

You are so right Douglas. Amen to that!

Frank Barnett
Frank Barnett
  • Douglas Bounds

They also refused Purple Hearts to those killed and wounded at Ft. Hood when Hasan went beserk.

Mark Schmitt
Mark Schmitt
  • Douglas Bounds

This is nothing like Obama and his Peace Prize joke. And any servicemember who loses a limb or their life in combat isn't refused a Purple Heart. The reasoning for Ft. Hood is because the trial hasn't taken place yet and to award the Purple Heart for that act of terrorism might taint the jury and give reason for the defense to seek mistrial or help their appeal process. After the trial is over, Purple Hearts will most likely be awarded retroactively.

Apm Mullally Nordstrom
Apm Mullally Nordstrom
  • Douglas Bounds

Sorry Mark, your wrong about the trial and purple hearts or any medals being issued. This attack is listed as "work place violence' not Terrorism!! Obama doesn't want that listed on his watch. It wont look good for his so called "legacy"... Regarding a medal for drone operators - they have no medals for EOD robot operators and they're on the ground With the bombs. Not hundreds or thousands of miles away in a cool sheltered building, safe and secure. If you don't walk the walk, you...

Sorry Mark, your wrong about the trial and purple hearts or any medals being issued. This attack is listed as "work place violence' not Terrorism!! Obama doesn't want that listed on his watch. It wont look good for his so called "legacy"... Regarding a medal for drone operators - they have no medals for EOD robot operators and they're on the ground With the bombs. Not hundreds or thousands of miles away in a cool sheltered building, safe and secure. If you don't walk the walk, you should be rewarded for just the talk.............. FYI: Husband just finished his 32nd year of active duty - me & kids volunteer & Service with no medals ever to be given. God Bless All our Troops and their Families. Thank You all for your Service!!!

Mark Schmitt
Mark Schmitt
  • Douglas Bounds

Oh, your HUSBAND served 32 years on active duty so that makes you more qualified than someone who actually is on active duty. I forgot, spouses have so much rank.

And actually, those EOD operators using a robot are regular EOD troops. Their robot is simply a tool in their toolbox and those EOD troops are awarded valor medals regularly. But I guess you already knew that with your Senior Spouse Rank.

Debora Ann Binegar Howk

My son is putting his life on the line forhis country. I don't believe someone sitting in a room at a control panel should get a higher honor than the one's in combat.

Mark Schmitt
Mark Schmitt
  • Debora Ann Binegar Howk

There are several non-valor medals that outrank the Purple Heart, as well as the Silver Star and the Bronze Star, such as the Defense Distinguished Service Medal and the Distinguished Service Medals of each branch. Nobody is complaining about those non-valor awards outranking valor awards and these medals are only awarded to General officers upon completion of a command rotation or retirement - no combat required.

Jeff Collier
Jeff Collier
  • Debora Ann Binegar Howk

Mark Schmitt ---MANY of us COMBAT VETS have complained about the medals you mentioned---and you see where IT GOT US--THOSE who ren our GOVT are as stupid as a BOX of rocks one day these FOOLISH MEDALS will be reduced to where they really belong--just above the GOOD CONDUCT !

Mark Schmitt
Mark Schmitt
  • Debora Ann Binegar Howk

No, you didn't complain. And if you did, you didn't complain nearly as badly as anyone is now - and it's because why? We're the most requested air asset on the battlefield. Not the A-10, not the F-15E, not the AC-130 gunship. It's the RPA - the MQ-1's and MQ-9's.

Again, it's not a valor medal. Take the time to actually READ the criteria for the medal, it specifically spells it out. Regardless, the precedent already exists that non-valor medals outrank valor medals.

John Browne
John Browne

Yanks get a medal for taking a dump to. Most of you have more medals than Idi Amin.

Cindi Elliott Vallee
Cindi Elliott Vallee
  • John Browne

O.K. John B, I quess that definitley qualifies for voicing your opinion alot nicer than most people, lol!

John Browne
John Browne
  • John Browne

Thankyou for agreeing with me Cindi.

Michael Hughes
Michael Hughes

I think they should recieve a medal for their purpose that that the men and women do.I also think that it is different than the men and women that are actually there deserves more than someone thousands miles away. I think they are a substanial part of our men and womens safety and support it's still different from being there. We should support all who defend our right and freedom. All give some some give all.god bless all.

Larry N Minda Furches
Larry N Minda Furches
  • Michael Hughes

This I agree with wholeheartidly my friend. The Drone operators do an excellent job in their fight and their medal should be classified as such and not compared with combat medals.

Mark Schmitt
Mark Schmitt
  • Michael Hughes

There are several non-valor medals that outrank the Purple Heart, as well as the Silver Star and the Bronze Star, such as the Defense Distinguished Service Medal and the Distinguished Service Medals of each branch. Nobody is complaining about those non-valor awards outranking valor awards and these medals are only awarded to General officers upon completion of a command rotation or retirement - no combat required.

Jack Dillon
Jack Dillon

I believe these people serve an important mission in war. However they don't risk their lives in open combat. If the government wants to award them a medal for how well they do their job that is ok by me. However the medal should never rank higher than any one awarded for valor in combat. Totally different concept...I earned my Bronze Star for service in Vietnam, in a combat zone, no one should earn one ranked higher for sitting in a secure place directing drones.

Michael Earnest
Michael Earnest
  • Jack Dillon

I Agree with you. But, I think that they may want to issue a new medal for these operators. I've served in Both theaters and see no reason for them to recieve this medal. They have never been in Danger and do not have the experience. I have nothing against these young men and woman but it's kind of an insult! Usually things like this happen because people wine about it..

Jay Larson
Jay Larson

I agree there non combat. There thousands of miles awawy should be a low medal on the badges.

Sean Patrick Toolin
Sean Patrick Toolin
  • Jay Larson

Jay, UAV operators are not thousands of miles away, they are overseas fighting just like every other soldier, in the army there are over 214 jobs to pick from, it is not the operators fault that they picked the better job for them in the military. I don't agree that they should have the medal higher then the bronze star or purple heart but I think they should get a medal or award that is low or mid on the award chart, also for the operators to get a medal it is not just to fly the UAV, it is...

Jay, UAV operators are not thousands of miles away, they are overseas fighting just like every other soldier, in the army there are over 214 jobs to pick from, it is not the operators fault that they picked the better job for them in the military. I don't agree that they should have the medal higher then the bronze star or purple heart but I think they should get a medal or award that is low or mid on the award chart, also for the operators to get a medal it is not just to fly the UAV, it is a bunch of other stuff to, but that is all I can say with out breaking opsec. If you or anyone have any questions just send me a message here at, https://www.facebook.com/Toolman714 and I will try to reply with an answer without breaking opsec.

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