I used to work for a Home Owners Association...they are what is commonly known as thier own entity and they for since they charge you dues monthly...can create their own legislation and enforce it...that is why your grass cannot be a certain height...weeds cannot grow...you cannot just paint your house any color you want...you cannot just build a certain fence...you cannot just build a Gazebo...you cannot fly a flag of anykind so...you cannot just park your car anywhere you choose...or your...
I used to work for a Home Owners Association...they are what is commonly known as thier own entity and they for since they charge you dues monthly...can create their own legislation and enforce it...that is why your grass cannot be a certain height...weeds cannot grow...you cannot just paint your house any color you want...you cannot just build a certain fence...you cannot just build a Gazebo...you cannot fly a flag of anykind so...you cannot just park your car anywhere you choose...or your outside friends and family for that matter...what you all are complaining about is nothing more than "Regulation"...that which you want to be "Non-Conformis"t to...you live within "Thier Planned Community" and they can choose to dicate whatever they want to do and yes... they will get away with it...yes it is not right but hey when you all moved in there that is the kind of governing you -yourselv'es have to chosen to live under...if you do not like it...sell your house and move away...I know this is not what you all want to hear but that is the truth and the regulation you have chosen to live under...so save some money and do as your told to do by your HOA...or spend your money in court so The Attorney on the opposing side can tell you the same thing I just did... and tack on court cost and fines to you...I will not be signing your petition...so good luck in your conquest for non-conformity and freedon you all chose when you bought your home/place on the HOA's property.
that suck but if you knew this before you bought a home then deal with it but i still dont think it rite we shouid be able to fly america flag on and any where in america.
National Laws should OVERride any HOA "rules" they are NOT LAWS!!
I'm a disabled veteran and anyone that would come on my land and tell me to take my flag down would be carried out on a stretcher with out another word said I gave my life for that flag and all it stands for and I would do it all over again to keep freedom for my family.
you go james!!!!!!
You tell em James
I'm sure a lot of folks feel the same as you do.
Sir I thank you for your sacrifices, and I agree except for one thing: we don't fight for a flag, we fight for what a flag SYMBOLIZES. And evidently, this is a violation of what the flag stands for, including the right to fly one as the first amendment guarantees as freedom of speech.
AMEN YOU TELL THEM!!!
DAMNED STRAIGHT, Koval ! TELL'EM somethin' ! ! ;-)
GOD_B L E S S_ O U R ( ! ! ) A M E R I C A ! ! ! SEMPER FI !
and my thanks to James Koval................another proud american............awesome
Well said James and thank you for your service to our country its people like you who keep America safe! If we cant hang an American Flag in America on our own land where the hell can it be hung! Whats even more confusing is that i can burn an American flag in the middle of the street and its called my right but if i try to hang and fly one its a problem? Whats wrong with thispicture
Way to go. I'm a MARINE, proud of it & mostly proud of the MEN AND WOMEN of past, present & future.
GOD BLESS ALL
I AGREE...........SO JAMES .......
Not that I place a lot of emphasis on the flag, it's what the flag stands for that I'm concerned about! Including the first amendment right to fly one! But you can fight for a "flag" and what it symbolizes, but not fly that same flag? I wish there were more details, this seems to be a foreign based petition but I signed anyway, so silly.
When you buy where there is a homeowner association there are rules you agree too. They all have some rules concerning flags, etc. Want to fly your flag, don't buy where they are. Read the sgrreements before you buy. It's simple.
James, it is unconstitutuional to have such a requirement. I'm surprised they haven't challenged it in court. It simply flies in the face of the Bill of Rights, it simply isn't allowed. They are just mad because somebody might wish to fly a foreign flag, which is also guaranteed by the first amendment. Homeowners associations do not make law, and cannot supercede the Bill of Rights. It is that simple.
How 'bout I make a homeowners association saying only the people of my choice, the flags of my choice, and the clothing of my choice are allowed in a community? IT'S THE SAME THING, it's all first amendment.
You can do that. It's legal. If people sign on to those terms, they should keep them. It's like these places for seniors only. They make the rules. That's what they do ( HOA). Nobody makes you sign, or buy there.
that's like saying it's okay to execute my neighbor because I think he molested my child, just because I wrote it into my homeowner's agreement or my own lease. No, they DO NOT make the rules, they DO NOT supercede federal standards, ever. They have been getting away with it but it's high time somebody challenge it.
and they can keep their homeowner's association and their snooty bylaws, but remember they are bylaws, not LAWS.
only once have I ever made the mistake in living in such a place, and that association only abused their own homebuyers, so i got out of there fast as I could. They can keep their stinking attitudes. This is America, not conformityville. If people want to be alike, dress alike, smell alike, etc., they should just become robots and move to a robot planet somewhere.
and yet James I wonder how equally supportive you might happen to be of laws that say DON'T KILL ONE ANOTHER???? It's amazing to me that people will support the snooty and the insecure as to real estate, but never take nearly that much interest or initiative when it comes to allowing regular everyday people to feel safe in their homes and outside their homes. HOA communities are no safer than any other. Do they have rules against guns? You know damn good and well if they did somebody...
and yet James I wonder how equally supportive you might happen to be of laws that say DON'T KILL ONE ANOTHER???? It's amazing to me that people will support the snooty and the insecure as to real estate, but never take nearly that much interest or initiative when it comes to allowing regular everyday people to feel safe in their homes and outside their homes. HOA communities are no safer than any other. Do they have rules against guns? You know damn good and well if they did somebody would be all up in "arms" about it. Oh but a flag, a certain lawn ornament, etc., that some people get allllll supportive AGAINST. No wonder our nation is effed. Too few priorities of any LOGIC.
perspective is EVERYTHING.
Many died for this right. They died for our freedom and we all should be proud of our flag and the people who gave their lives for this freedom! The people trying to take this right away should be arrested!
Amen to that
You don't need to start a petition Lyle. There is already a law the protects the rights of residents and condominiums to fly the flag on their property: http://usgovinfo.about.com/b/2006/07/25/bush-signs-flag-display-protection-law.htm
Lyle Hippensteel ; GO TO CAUSES.COM
I can think a couple steps further but I like that.
I think its time for our government to make it a little harder for people to become citizens of our once great country and put a gigantic fence on the border to mexico! times are getting a bit to hard for natural citizens to get by and immigration laws are the reason for it! we cant keep allowing foreigners to come here and change our country!
Yeah, Too bad the Native American Indians didn't try that way back when. Charles, your last name don't even fit that of the very first colonists. Hmmmmmmmm
no it doesnt but i was born here and so were my parents.this country is going to hell in a hand basket and i dont want to be alive when it does!
Wow.... Since u didn't come over on the mayflower ....maybe you should just jump ship now and leave more room for people who wanna be here.
Isn't this part of our freedom of speech? Why can people destroy our flag and aren't flogged for doing that? This is the United States and I can't believe there is a petition like this. If you don't want the flag to be displayed, you shouldn't be in this country!
Thank you for clarifying the Freedom of Speech. I'd help you in trying to save that flag Daniel.
Daniel Quinn, Actually, the 1st Amendment has been bastardized by the scotus and lawyers. The implication and intent of the 1st Amendment was ONLY to give the populace redress with griervances against the government without the threat of reprisal. That is how it was meant, not burning the flag as an expression thereof!
Look people I am a proud American I served our country and would die for it I fly the flag every day not just on certain holidays and its 2013 and 99.999 percent of are family's did not come over on the mayflower they came from all over the world seeking a better life so as long as you come here the LEGAL way and want to be here I am fine with that. That means learn the language if I go to your country there not going to accommodate my not speaking the native language . And if you can't or...
Look people I am a proud American I served our country and would die for it I fly the flag every day not just on certain holidays and its 2013 and 99.999 percent of are family's did not come over on the mayflower they came from all over the world seeking a better life so as long as you come here the LEGAL way and want to be here I am fine with that. That means learn the language if I go to your country there not going to accommodate my not speaking the native language . And if you can't or won't then get the fuck out and let someone who truly wants to be here take your place. Proud American flag flier
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America...this I reverently uphold....this I was taught...This is Thee banner for my country that represents our rights,our freedom, and our nation under God
And to the republic for which it stands!
I have the American Flag with the Marine Corps Flag under it, on a 25 ft pole. No man dare touch it. Alot of us have died for that flag!
Why is it that the governement is trying to much to controll us ? Thought Hitler was gone ? Leave us alone and STOP taking our rights away. Take care of the mess that you have made in the house, congress and goverement. Wow pretty soon we will all have to go to bed at dusk and wake up at dawn because we are told to. Freedom what is that any more ????
People just have stand up and say NO. I have known you along time, and you know as well as me that people sit silent!! I see a whole new world coming if we don't put a stop to it!!
:) Phone call away!! Ooorah
I will fly the American flag with no "yellow fringe" which is not an American flag with or without the government's permission.
Didn't the U.S. Calvery start putting the yellow fring on thier flags????
Check out the U.S. Code, Title 4, chapter 1, section 1.