Sondra Shereen Costell Graber

Just to remind everyone, freedom of religion does include all spiritualities. Freedom of speech and expression applies to us all, also. The world is big enough for many ways of being and many belief systems.

Meri Kassner-Gomez
Meri Kassner-Gomez
  • Sondra Shereen Costell Graber

yes, but they sounded like total arrogant assholes on the air and they should have had their facts straight and perhaps talked to a few Wiccans before they started speaking in the manner they did.

Jennifer Bradshaw
Jennifer Bradshaw
  • Sondra Shereen Costell Graber

I agree, Sondra. We all have a freedom to feel and express how we feel about things. Sadly, I've seen far too many people on ALL sides of this issue act like ignorant rear ends, stereo-typing and playing the blame game. If this is in fact based on something said on a commentary show, then folks need to get over it. Christians face a lot of hate, too, because some jack-offs decide to practice hate in the name of their god. Muslims face the same prejudice. I no longer subscribe to any...

I agree, Sondra. We all have a freedom to feel and express how we feel about things. Sadly, I've seen far too many people on ALL sides of this issue act like ignorant rear ends, stereo-typing and playing the blame game. If this is in fact based on something said on a commentary show, then folks need to get over it. Christians face a lot of hate, too, because some jack-offs decide to practice hate in the name of their god. Muslims face the same prejudice. I no longer subscribe to any particular religion, simply because I find wisdom and truth in virtually all of them, at the same time I find a lot of prejudiced junk, generally because of twisted translations. You want to prove to these guys you are not what they think? Going around whining and demanding that they apologize isn't going to make you look mature or educated. And it's not going to make you look respectable. Try offering an interview on their show to explain your beliefs. Otherwise, grow a thicker skin and get over it. This country needs to go back to recognizing that "free speech" means that others are entitled to disagree with you, without having to apologize for exercising their rights.

Jean Sipes
Jean Sipes
  • Sondra Shereen Costell Graber

@ Jennifer .....Fox New as a whole has a long and sordid history as it is. Standing up to them is the right thing to do. Demanding an apology is immature Jennifer ??? Really ? It makes one look 'uneducated' ? How so ? And do you not realize that these kinds of shows will NOT want a Wiccan or Pagan on their show for an interview ? That's not how they operate. They are a sounding board for the close-minded, right wing, conservatives. They need to apologize ! PERIOD.

Matthew James
Matthew James
  • Sondra Shereen Costell Graber

spewing misinformation... yep... sounds like... well, any bigtime news company. Aren't there like some several thousand news, radio and paper places owned by only 3 or 4 companies on the top level?

Leah Von RaiderRose
Leah Von RaiderRose
  • Sondra Shereen Costell Graber

Yeah........I'm with Diana on this one.

Erin Sands
Erin Sands
  • Sondra Shereen Costell Graber

Religious defamation is a hot button in the international community. That is not the issue here. Faux News lack of accurate reporting and dubious fact checking is. There are factually 8 Pagan holidays -- not 20. Another fact is that the membership of both communities is richly diverse in age, race, gender, and social strata and not made up of twice divorced middle aged women who like incense. As an individual, Tucker, and his two flying monkey companions may express whatever bigoted opinion...

Religious defamation is a hot button in the international community. That is not the issue here. Faux News lack of accurate reporting and dubious fact checking is. There are factually 8 Pagan holidays -- not 20. Another fact is that the membership of both communities is richly diverse in age, race, gender, and social strata and not made up of twice divorced middle aged women who like incense. As an individual, Tucker, and his two flying monkey companions may express whatever bigoted opinion they like but as employees of Faux News and as alleged journalists, do they have some responsibility at accurate reporting? That remains to be seen in the days to come and how much exposure this receives.

Lanie Fox
Lanie Fox
  • Sondra Shereen Costell Graber

@ erin--i love your comment about the diversity and middle-age women. that wins comment of the day! i would be interested to find out if there is, indeed, any follow-up regarding exposure.

Luna Swan
Luna Swan
  • Sondra Shereen Costell Graber

Get over it, is like telling a child to get over hurt feelings.
It is not the hurt feelings, it is the Defamtion of Character this can cause, false information on the biggest "news" channel, just because they wear ( and are) to lazy to do research. So I don't care about Christans at this point because they get a way with a lot of shit. So it time for Wiccans, Pagans, a Witches to take a stand. This is not helping with the fear people have.

Brian Higman
Brian Higman

1..No because its an Online Petition... 2.. News agencies have been offending people of all makes and sizes since broadcasting began. Expect offenses and learn how to deal with lifes adversities... it makes our walks much easier!

Desiree'and JD Riches
Desiree'and JD Riches
  • Brian Higman

Maybe they should just pray... LOL

Brian Higman
Brian Higman
  • Brian Higman

Yes ..Pray..but to who ...? ... whom? ...ummm what? ummm? &?(

Allen Reeves
Allen Reeves
  • Brian Higman

Well, seeing as many of us believe our Gods to not "care" about events like this, we wouldn't sit back on our asses and "pray" for it to get better. This is why we speak out; an online petition being only one form of our protest to misinformation. It's easy to say "offense happens, deal with it," and ignore the repercussions that will - and have - come of this report, but that's not something that we as a community can do so easily, nor is it something that we would want to do. If we sit...

Well, seeing as many of us believe our Gods to not "care" about events like this, we wouldn't sit back on our asses and "pray" for it to get better. This is why we speak out; an online petition being only one form of our protest to misinformation. It's easy to say "offense happens, deal with it," and ignore the repercussions that will - and have - come of this report, but that's not something that we as a community can do so easily, nor is it something that we would want to do. If we sit back and meekly "turn the other cheek," then we truly will become abuse victims.

Ronald Reiman
Ronald Reiman
  • Brian Higman

You are so sick in the head that it is only by Satan's help that you can stand and talk this rubbish. What a load of gibberish that comes sprouting from the mouths of you people who call yourselves pagan and wiccans. The Devil is your master and he is whispering lies into your ears and just to keep you occupied the devil has demons who will rape you for eternity, you see, he likes wiccans and pagans. Take a good dose of soothing butt ointment with you. Cheers.

Stephanie Chateau
Stephanie Chateau

Just thought about this. This is a great example of 3 fold law in action. They try to not so subtly convince the masses that pagans/wiccans don't matter - aren't legit - shouldn't be taken seriously - and the rubber band SNAPS back! Now alot of people are probably being educated about pagan/wiccan beliefs just by this petition being circulated and people reading through the comments trying to understand what it is Fox News did *this time*. Like I said before... Faux News.. you done f'd up.

Skohti Hamilton
Skohti Hamilton
  • Stephanie Chateau

Faux News!!! lol

Jessica Quinn
Jessica Quinn
  • Stephanie Chateau

This is why I hate Fox News. Religious bashing bastards....

Ronald Reiman
Ronald Reiman
  • Stephanie Chateau

Heathens and pagans. What a load of gibberish that comes sprouting from the mouths of you people who call yourselves pagan and wiccans. The Devil is your master and he is whispering lies into your ears and he will take you to his domain and just to keep you occupied the devil has demons who will rape you for eternity, you see, he likes wiccans and pagans. Take a good dose of soothing butt ointment with you. Cheers.

Ronald Reiman
Ronald Reiman
  • Stephanie Chateau

Bobbie Jo Justice Bobbie Jo Justice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjVLJKR6g7U

Pashy Emerson
Pashy Emerson

My god. I know that people have made fun of Fox News for being a bit arrogant in the past, but this takes the cake. Religion is not something to be laughed at, no matter what creed one follows. :/

Megan Paushel
Megan Paushel
  • Pashy Emerson

I warned ya about before ;3 It's not "Fox News" it's "Faux News" =P

Aimée Jo Beaudoin
Aimée Jo Beaudoin
  • Pashy Emerson

My feelings are kinda mixed on this for a few reasons:

One, I'm not a big fan of petitions requesting someone to back-track on their statements -- I think not tuning in to a show that you don't like is a more effective course of action. All you'll get from a petition-educed apology is a hollow one.

Two, while I do like Fox News, the morning show Fox and Friends is just a little variety hour, and while I sometimes watch it for fun, it's not something I take amazingly seriously -- that's...

My feelings are kinda mixed on this for a few reasons:

One, I'm not a big fan of petitions requesting someone to back-track on their statements -- I think not tuning in to a show that you don't like is a more effective course of action. All you'll get from a petition-educed apology is a hollow one.

Two, while I do like Fox News, the morning show Fox and Friends is just a little variety hour, and while I sometimes watch it for fun, it's not something I take amazingly seriously -- that's what the business and opinion shows later on are for.

Three, they make a valid point about Christians being bashed to death over saying "Merry Christmas". It's not like I'm going to burn in their perceived hell because they say it to me in an honest expression of their joy.

However, that all being said, the dude on the far left was just fucking rude. I have NEVER heard of a pagan or Wiccan whine about not getting a holiday off, so the whole thing is just stupid to begin with -- it's not like they MUST take the day off because the moon is full. They're not werewolves. There was NO need for him to belittle people for celebrating Samhain -- considering he's a few weeks away from celebrating a pink bunny gifting chocolate to his kids...

Pashy Emerson
Pashy Emerson
  • Pashy Emerson

Well, Aimee, here's the thing:

Morning talk show or not, they could have at least been more professional, especially when identifying themselves as journalists. They, in the very least, can apologise or state the fact they have been better informed about the people in which they were outright and blatantly picking on. The attitude they took, seriously, shocked me, even for Fox News.

As for Christians being bashed over saying Merry Christmas, no, it's the other way around (at least...

Well, Aimee, here's the thing:

Morning talk show or not, they could have at least been more professional, especially when identifying themselves as journalists. They, in the very least, can apologise or state the fact they have been better informed about the people in which they were outright and blatantly picking on. The attitude they took, seriously, shocked me, even for Fox News.

As for Christians being bashed over saying Merry Christmas, no, it's the other way around (at least here). You say "happy holidays" here, and you got people cramming Bibles down your throat. I have never seen somebody get attacked for saying "Merry Christmas." It's the safest way to say happy holidays in my area. Either way, however, it's not a valid point in their discussion about anything.

The only thing they did was bring out the fact that this college is recognising Pagan and Wiccan holidays, and they took the chance to spill out their under-educated and biased views to pick on people they do not understand.

Megan Paushel
Megan Paushel
  • Pashy Emerson

Atleast they finally did apologize and they had someone actually represent, with true facts and information, on the show. Not the first time "Fox" made a "mistake" had to backpedal and apologize for. Just shows how that network is run and I will never watch nor read their news. I know most news networks will be biased or what have it but Fox has to be by far the worst.

Beth Guarneri
Beth Guarneri

Signed on the dotted line. I dont watch fox , its nothing but yellow journalism. But this really burns me. Sorryni think I played dungeons and dragons maybe 2 times in my lifetime when I was a teen.. it was fun too, 2x divorced? Dont make me laugh. Reiki? And other alternatve practices are actually starting to become accepted modes of healing especially in cancer centers and pain management settings. I dont think ive ever h
Said anything so bigoted to judeochristian friends and family but...

Signed on the dotted line. I dont watch fox , its nothing but yellow journalism. But this really burns me. Sorryni think I played dungeons and dragons maybe 2 times in my lifetime when I was a teen.. it was fun too, 2x divorced? Dont make me laugh. Reiki? And other alternatve practices are actually starting to become accepted modes of healing especially in cancer centers and pain management settings. I dont think ive ever h
Said anything so bigoted to judeochristian friends and family but I am sick and tired of heaeing such rudeness from the media and other idiots who font know the meaning of live and let live. And yes I wont tie up the whole message board with naming every holiday but anyone who is an educated pagan or wiccan knows the wheel of the year. By the way native americans and aisan culture use insense in their religious practices, maybe we should belittle them too. What an insult!

Beth Guarneri
Beth Guarneri
  • Beth Guarneri

Sorry about the typos. My tablet sometimes acts up. But I wanted fox news to get a loud and clear message. Ive been the victim of employee discrimination back in 2009 in an ultra orthadox medical facility here in Ny of all places. I lost my job over my beliefs and no lawyer wanted to touch it. I can tell u that discrimination is like havind a knife in your gut. And this is someone who grew up a a jewish white girl. Well now I am a jewiccan and proud I made the switch.

Denise Palmer
Denise Palmer
  • Beth Guarneri

YOU, GO MY SWEET DAUGHTER! I heard the newscast and I said to Oberon, here we go this is going to be a tempest in a teapot. Now it's spilling hot boiling tea all over these "Idiots" I hope they have to take some classes in our chosen crafts!!! Merry Meet and Blessed Be! While our Goddess, watches over thee! Lady Rhiannon

Beth Guarneri
Beth Guarneri
  • Beth Guarneri

Love ya ma! I am going to go like the enerhizer bunny too. Oops was that a reference to ostara. ?..shame on me what a bad wicked pagan I am!

Beth Guarneri
Beth Guarneri
  • Beth Guarneri

Btw I am writing the ostara eitual for our group

Morey O'Connell
Morey O'Connell

They took that link down, http://mediamatters.org/embed/static/clips/2013/02/17/28929/fnc-fnf-20130217-wiccan ~~ Sry you have to copy and paste the link to see it :)

Athena Gery
Athena Gery
  • Morey O'Connell

Thank you! I swear I just had that link up and it wasn't working a second ago. Maybe traffic was so high from everyone getting informed *lol*

Morey O'Connell
Morey O'Connell
  • Morey O'Connell

no the one was taken off.. that is downloaded be4 they took it down ;)

Morey O'Connell
Morey O'Connell
  • Morey O'Connell
Ronald Reiman
Ronald Reiman
  • Morey O'Connell

You are so sick in the head that it is only by Satan's help that you can stand and talk this rubbish. What a load of gibberish that comes sprouting from the mouths of you people who call yourselves pagan and wiccans. The Devil is your master and he is whispering lies into your ears and just to keep you occupied the devil has demons who will rape you for eternity, you see, he likes wiccans and pagans. Take a good dose of soothing butt ointment with you. Cheers.

Teoni Hunt
Teoni Hunt

I'm still unsure what's going on none of the links I found are working...

Athena Gery
Athena Gery
  • Teoni Hunt

That's strange. I JUST had it up and it was working. Basically Tucker Carlson on Fox News bashed Pagans and Wiccans and really overgeneralized and stereotyped them as a culture. Saying they are all "twice divorced middle-aged women living in rural areas who like incense or Dungeons and Dragons players." And basically that their holidays should not be included in the Missouri University list of holidays AND that he can't even take the religious practice seriously because it centers around "Halloween".

Teoni Hunt
Teoni Hunt
  • Teoni Hunt

thanks huni now I have the full story and I'm pissed off!!

Ronald Reiman
Ronald Reiman
  • Teoni Hunt

Are you pissed off, O what a shame. Whispering into your ears and just to keep you occupied the devil has demons who will rape you for eternity, you see, he likes wiccans and pagans. Take a good dose of soothing butt ointment with you. Cheers.

Dee Marie
Dee Marie

I don't sign petitions...but I am horrified about this. No other faith would be so berated and made fun of like this on national tv. How can this be tollerated. Please,every one, let the world know we are not a joke. I am a contributing member of the community and my small business has created jobs and smiles across the country. This has me outraged.

Deirdre Hebert
Deirdre Hebert
  • Dee Marie

No petition by Pagans will have any effect on Fox. Sad, but that's the truth. They don't care one single bit.

Rebecca LaForce
Rebecca LaForce
  • Dee Marie

Dawn, Thank you for bringing this back to my attention! I agree whole heartedly and ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

Tahlia Bubbadingles Deegan
Tahlia Bubbadingles Deegan
  • Dee Marie

Whats really getting to me is that were the only ones they singled out. Did they talk about anyone else's holidays..at all...no.

Danielle Martin
Danielle Martin
  • Dee Marie

What's the story here? The causes link just says they were hateful. I want details! :P

Cynthia Newton Rodier
Cynthia Newton Rodier
  • Dee Marie

These reporters are ignorant and irresponsible. They are also about to have their asses handed to them, I'm sure!

John Hagaman
John Hagaman
  • Dee Marie

sorry dawn but christianity and judism have been made fun of for years so maybe we can all agree its time to stop comparing others religion to ours have a great day

Ragnbjorg Donarsdottir
Ragnbjorg Donarsdottir
  • Dee Marie

that is not true Deirdre they are counting on us to sit by and think like you are now. WRONG! STAND UP AND FIGHT AGAINST IGNORANCE. dont matter what pagan tradition you ascribe to...STAND UP AND SOUND THE HORN!! If enough of us stand up and say "enough is enough we demand respect" we will be heard.

Natalie Lunsford
Natalie Lunsford
  • Dee Marie

Then sign the petition Dawn, if this is truly how you feel. Our voice will be stronger if you join in with us!

Ed Ireland
Ed Ireland
  • Dee Marie

Love ya Dawn and good to see you lending a voice on this. Hoping to see you and the Bear soon.

Jesa Phair
Jesa Phair

For the record, I'd like to notate the following: I am not a Middle Aged, Twice Divorced Woman. I am Single, and I have been Pagan for more than half my life and I'm not even 40 yet! I do not play Dungeons and Dragons! I don't even own a set of dice! (However, I have friends that do!) The only thing I can say that was true, for me anyway is, I live in a rural area and I am guilty of loving Incense! (But I know plenty of City Witches as well as Country Witches! Male AND Female! And some...

For the record, I'd like to notate the following: I am not a Middle Aged, Twice Divorced Woman. I am Single, and I have been Pagan for more than half my life and I'm not even 40 yet! I do not play Dungeons and Dragons! I don't even own a set of dice! (However, I have friends that do!) The only thing I can say that was true, for me anyway is, I live in a rural area and I am guilty of loving Incense! (But I know plenty of City Witches as well as Country Witches! Male AND Female! And some are Single and some are in Blissful Relationships!) And as for Not being able to name all of the Holidays.... I can do it off the top of my head, IN ORDER! Samhain, Yule, Imbolc, Ostara, Beltane, Midsummer, Lughnasadh, Mabon. and it's not 20 Holidays, It's 8. Did you realize it went from 20% to 20 Whole Holidays? Morons! If they just did some research, They'd realize that THEIR Holidays Almost all have Pagan Origins! Christmas Was Originally Yule. Easter Was originally Ostara. Groundhog Day was originally Imbolc, And Their Halloween is a Perverted Version of Our Samhain.

Dyana Postelle
Dyana Postelle
  • Jesa Phair

And that Christmas is deeply rooted in pagan traditions as well as commercialism (Coke ads started the current incarnation of Santa). It is a Christian holiday but on conversion and perversion... yet "they" want to put Christ back in Christmas when he was not there to start with!

Ragnbjorg Donarsdottir
Ragnbjorg Donarsdottir
  • Jesa Phair

HAHAHA good one sister :) I am heathen we celebrate some of the same holidays y'all do with a few added one of our own in honor of our Norse gods and goddesses and ancestors so I am very familiar with the holidays you mentioned and someone else mentioned how some of their holidays are really pagan holidays I totally agree with that. Easter=Ostara, Xmas=Yule, Halloween=Samheim, etc.

Debbie Barker
Debbie Barker
  • Jesa Phair

hmm, not wanting to be judged for the misguided few of the Wiccan belief but, so willing to judge based on the misguided few of anothers belief....energy that is put out will come back to bite us hard, yes, the origin of Christmas was based solely on the Pagan holiday as was Easter....the original concept of the ppl who blended the holidays was originally designed to show how both sides were really not that far apart....sadly the mark that was being headed for was missed..... my point we...

hmm, not wanting to be judged for the misguided few of the Wiccan belief but, so willing to judge based on the misguided few of anothers belief....energy that is put out will come back to bite us hard, yes, the origin of Christmas was based solely on the Pagan holiday as was Easter....the original concept of the ppl who blended the holidays was originally designed to show how both sides were really not that far apart....sadly the mark that was being headed for was missed..... my point we were created to be makers of our own destiny to have our own free will...to judge only brings judgement.....to do evil only brings evil....just like to do good will only bring good....to be empathetic will only bring empathy....so on and so forth....assumption that these ppl who have any belief at all is just that an assumption...to have true beliefs mean you stand by those beliefs and it is clear to me the ones reporting have none just indoctrination......

Debbie Barker
Debbie Barker
  • Jesa Phair

Liam Labelingtheia the Freemasons is a huge society that carries members of different backgrounds....some of them very prominent public figures, just watch hand shakes, how they hold themselves ;) big tell tale signs.....as for the crimes of other mainstream religions yes they are publicized otherwise we wouldn't have these mainstream beliefs...Catholics priests are all child molestors, jewish people are all greedy, muslims are all terroisst....get the jist? Sadly, the energy that is put...

Liam Labelingtheia the Freemasons is a huge society that carries members of different backgrounds....some of them very prominent public figures, just watch hand shakes, how they hold themselves ;) big tell tale signs.....as for the crimes of other mainstream religions yes they are publicized otherwise we wouldn't have these mainstream beliefs...Catholics priests are all child molestors, jewish people are all greedy, muslims are all terroisst....get the jist? Sadly, the energy that is put out by the ppl who believe in the same manner as the group they represent comes back onto the whole group.....more reason to be out there putting more positive energy to combat the negative..... I am not Wiccan but did sign the petition, I am shocked to read how my belief is being attacked, based on the misguided and misrepresentation of a few as well. Seems the ones that misrepresent tend to have a louder witness than most, could be the ability we as humans have to look for the negative more so than the positive. At any rate this false reporting should be fixed!

Kris Hancock
Kris Hancock
  • Jesa Phair

Fox has a Facebook page, I think we should bombard it with just what you just said in this post!!!

Susan Coté
Susan Coté
  • Jesa Phair

*hand raised* I also confess to a deep abiding love of incense. I have a single divorce to my credit; chalk it up to marrying too young. I play Pathfinder, not D&D, though, and I'm not a midwife, though I'd do it in a heartbeat!

Juli Griffin
Juli Griffin
  • Jesa Phair

sad part jesa, or maybe the funny part, is that these people do not even know how much paganism is mixed in with their practice of christianity. they are making fun of wiccans not being able to name their holidays...ha! this is so hilarious to me! they don't even know the scope of their idiocy.

Destiny Gonzalez
Destiny Gonzalez

I flipped out when I saw this. I was like really now Faux News? During their tangent of bigotry they forgot to mention, 99.9.9% of their Christian holidays are all Pagan based. So that "heathens" could easily be converted, and transitioned to "Christiandom".

Michelle Laswell
Michelle Laswell
  • Destiny Gonzalez

all the holidays we have off are pagan..too bad most people don't know that.

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