Avner Eliyahu Romm
Avner Eliyahu Romm

I would like to make things clear when I sign the petition. The death penalty should be reinstated in South Africa, but should apply only to those who commit crimes after it had been reinstated, and to those, among those who committed crimes before, who ask to be executed instead of sitting in prison. But as I always say: Prisoners from before the 1994 elections should all be released unconditionally. So I obviously don't call for the execution of any of those prisoners. On the contrary, I call for the release of all thos prisoners.

Rose McMillan
Rose McMillan
  • Avner Eliyahu Romm

How many of those released prisoners have recommitted the same crime after being released, Presidential pardons have released prisoners who were back in jail a week later .

Avner Eliyahu Romm
Avner Eliyahu Romm
  • Avner Eliyahu Romm

"Those released prisoners" are not prisoners who have not, and should have been, released. And it is clear, to anyone in their right mind, that none of the later is likely to committ anything of the kind they were in prison for. It is those, who are likely to recommitt the same crimes after being released, who are indeed being released in South Africa soon after spending some little time in prison. While there are others, who spend many years there and should be released.

KenAmanda Vermaak
KenAmanda Vermaak
  • Avner Eliyahu Romm

If those persons commited murder what makes them special? Murder is murder and rape is rape. Why should they be released? To be able to get a second chance to RAPE or MURDER again. No release keep them locked up and for good measure castrate the rapests.

Avner Eliyahu Romm
Avner Eliyahu Romm
  • Avner Eliyahu Romm

That's it. I have deleted and blocked two characters who tried to use my facebook page in order to write their filthy propaganda against releasing prisoners. So I would like to say again, and very clearly: There should be proper truth and reconciliation in South Africa, which should include the release of all prisoners from before the 1994 elections. Those who would like to post propaganda against it, should do it in the facebook pages of Mrs. Hani and her likes, not in mine.

Johann Hendrik Hartzenberg
Johann Hendrik Hartzenberg
  • Avner Eliyahu Romm

A eye for a eye If we keep them locked up we still have to provide for them. BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY!

Eldred Jansen van Rensburg
Eldred Jansen van Rensburg
  • Avner Eliyahu Romm

No matter how many are in favour of the death penalty, the chances of it ever happening in SA at this stage is Nil, Zero. Can you imagine how many supporters of the present regime will be eliminated.

Nicolene Potgieter
Nicolene Potgieter
  • Avner Eliyahu Romm

Hi Eldred! Please read my reply to Leon Economides. Never say never

Deon Myburgh
Deon Myburgh
  • Avner Eliyahu Romm

It is not about executing people but rather about preventing futher mayhem taking place, those who have been convicted under a feeble legislation should count themselves lucky and try to reflect on the circumstances that have granted them this reprieve! But..... and this is a big but... in no way should they be rellieved of their current penalty payment to society. I know of too many cases where release has been granted to habitual criminals, only to have them devistate the lives of more...

It is not about executing people but rather about preventing futher mayhem taking place, those who have been convicted under a feeble legislation should count themselves lucky and try to reflect on the circumstances that have granted them this reprieve! But..... and this is a big but... in no way should they be rellieved of their current penalty payment to society. I know of too many cases where release has been granted to habitual criminals, only to have them devistate the lives of more people. My feeling is that new ways should be thought of for these criminals to give payback to society, other than them wasting money and time in jail. The old system of changing rocks into gravel comes to mind, at least something will come out of feeding and housing them. IF REINSTATING OF THE DEATH PENALTY CAN PREVENT MURDERS, IT STANDS TO REASON THAT NOBODY WILL BE EXECUTED!!! This is the ultimate goal, preventing, not executing! At least innocent people will hopefully be spared.

Avner Eliyahu Romm
Avner Eliyahu Romm
  • Avner Eliyahu Romm

I repeat what I said before: Prisoners from before the 1994 elections should all be released unconditionally. Those prisoners are not murderers by nature, and therefore, any examples of prisoners, who are released and murder again, have nothing to do with them. Those who argue that some prisoners murder again are missing the point, because prisoners I am talking about are not like that. But even other prisoners, and even those who are murderers by nature, should be considered for pardon.

Norbert Finzsch
Norbert Finzsch

I am appalled by the fact that someone seriously proposes to reinstate the death penalty. This is an attack on human rights and should be branded as such. Shame on the individuals who support such a barbarity.

Astrid Recker
Astrid Recker
  • Norbert Finzsch

We heard the same voices in India :-(

Connie Heuer
Connie Heuer
  • Norbert Finzsch

You are then NOT appalled by the wholesale rape and murder of innocent people. especially here South Africa where even little children and raped, killed and their bodies dumped all over the place..I wonder what your feeling would be if these killings affected your close family.

Norbert Finzsch
Norbert Finzsch
  • Norbert Finzsch

Yes I am appalled by all kinds of rapes. The death penalty, however, is not the solution for this problem. The numer of rapes is not influenced by the severity or barbarity of the penalties inflicted. In the US where the death penalty was reintroduced after the moratorium of the 70s, the reintroduction had no visible affect on the number of violent crimes. It helps to argue based on facts and not based on anger.

Ameen Jakoet
Ameen Jakoet

I can't sign this petition --- Death is not the answer for rapists, death is not the answer to anything. Everyone has a right to live, and only God can judge us. If you are willing to answer to God on the Day of Judgement... stand before him and say, "I killed this man, because what he did was wrong in my eyes", then go ahead, and await your judgement as well. I feel strongly against Rape in our country, and I truly believe that it's something that needs to be looked at, at the core of our...

I can't sign this petition --- Death is not the answer for rapists, death is not the answer to anything. Everyone has a right to live, and only God can judge us. If you are willing to answer to God on the Day of Judgement... stand before him and say, "I killed this man, because what he did was wrong in my eyes", then go ahead, and await your judgement as well. I feel strongly against Rape in our country, and I truly believe that it's something that needs to be looked at, at the core of our country, and the right questions need to be asked, like: "Who is truly to blame?", "What caused him to do this?" --- What's the fundamental issue regarding rape.

As a young man, I really believed that the Death Penalty was the answer to a lot of things, and I couldn't understand why people thought it was bad --- till today, at times, I can't help but have an outburst of emotion, where I want to kill murderers and rapists myself... but in a country where we're still learning and growing, we need to be more understanding of what we all truly believe in - Human Rights. I am a fair and just person, and to me the answer is to have them castrated, or something of the like.

Even as I write this, I can't help but think that maybe Death is truly the answer for the unjustice, that has been forced upon some women and men.

Ayesha Isaacs
Ayesha Isaacs
  • Ameen Jakoet

Well said and totally agree with you...as hard as it may be. It is a "legalised" murder.

Nicolene Potgieter
Nicolene Potgieter
  • Ameen Jakoet

so you would rather have them suffer for life (castrated) ,rather than having them put down? Very humane of you. Do you realise that while you were writing your comment, 3 women have been brutally raped and over the weekend a 2 year old was raped so brutally raped and left for dead that she is still in hospital? She will never be able to have kids of her own one day.

Nicolene Potgieter
Nicolene Potgieter
  • Ameen Jakoet

yes OK, let's just cur off their penis right? What is your solution deary?

Ilan Lax
Ilan Lax

The death penalty has never been a deterrent for this or any other kind of crime. We have a systemic problem with our criminal justice system which requires serious capacity and re-training as well as sensitivity training for patriarchal minded officials. It is only when we get these things right that we can get successful prosecutions and convictions. Its only at that stage that the sentence is applied. Many cases never get there due to incompetence, inefficiency and sometimes a...

The death penalty has never been a deterrent for this or any other kind of crime. We have a systemic problem with our criminal justice system which requires serious capacity and re-training as well as sensitivity training for patriarchal minded officials. It is only when we get these things right that we can get successful prosecutions and convictions. Its only at that stage that the sentence is applied. Many cases never get there due to incompetence, inefficiency and sometimes a couldn't care less attitude. Lets focus our anger at the right outcome!

Nicolene Potgieter
Nicolene Potgieter
  • Ilan Lax

good luck with that,let me know if it works out

Keith Anderson
Keith Anderson
  • Ilan Lax

It should have been implemented a few years back.

Francois van der Merwe
Francois van der Merwe

What a stupid bloodthirsty waste of time!

Francois van der Merwe
Francois van der Merwe
  • Francois van der Merwe

Hate breeds hate! The dark middle ages all over again? Think people!

Nicolene Potgieter
Nicolene Potgieter
  • Francois van der Merwe

was it not your son who killed Martin van Eck? No wonder you are opposed....

Henriette van Eck
Henriette van Eck
  • Francois van der Merwe

DIE HAAT WAT ONS VIR JULLE HET,HET JULLE VEROORSAAK.JOU SLAPGAT KIND SAL WEER UIT DIE TRONK KOM MAAR NIE LEWENDIG NIE.E

Nicolene Potgieter
Nicolene Potgieter
  • Francois van der Merwe

and your solution is?.........

Henriette van Eck
Henriette van Eck
  • Francois van der Merwe

AL HOEKOM JY TEEN DOODSTRAF IS JOU SOT OMDAT JOU KIND MY KIND GEMARTEL,VERMOOR GESLAG HET SOOS N DIER EN MY KIND BESTEEL HET.IS DIT IN DIE GENE OF IS HY PLEINWEG KAK OPGEVOED OF GEEN OPVOEDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous
Anonymous

Do you really think that someone who is about to create a crime as despicable as this is going to think, " Wait, If I do this I might receive the death penalty"? People commit crime because they think they can get away with it! The death penalty does not work as a deterent!

Nicolene Potgieter
Nicolene Potgieter
  • Anonymous

well let's see? ;)

Anonymous
Anonymous
  • Anonymous

@Nicolene, what does "Let's see" mean?

Nicolene Potgieter
Nicolene Potgieter
  • Anonymous

I say let's for once stand together and see if the death penalty will help? If the murder rate doesn't drop, we can go back to the failing NGO government campaigns as it is today.Whoopteedoo. give me some facts and figures. do you know that more people die in SA ANNUALLY than the total deaths in Ireland while they were at WAR?

Jacoba Isabella O'Neil
Jacoba Isabella O'Neil

God say in his word an eye of an eye and.......who are we to think other wise nobody have the right to kill a norther human being, no matter who it is, and to rape is also nobody's right, women must be respect, they are the mothers of the nation children, bring back the death penalty. I pray for it.if not we must force it.on the government.

Jacoba Isabella O'Neil
Jacoba Isabella O'Neil
  • Jacoba Isabella O'Neil

My vriende glo jule hier in gaan teken asb, die petisie.

Carel Greyling
Carel Greyling
  • Jacoba Isabella O'Neil

'n Referendum sal die korrupte ANC-regering verplig om die doodstraf terug te bring

Mzi Sipamla
Mzi Sipamla

Death penalty is not an option and folks stop making it a racially politically motivated issue. Its taking someones life. Amazed by some of the surnames that are so charged up on the view point about the death penalty...... Do the history and read on/about our historical legal cases; notice those same surnames and see a pattern of some folks from those same surnames enjoying taking the lives of others. Focus on amending the Justice system that it has dire consequences than putting your...

Death penalty is not an option and folks stop making it a racially politically motivated issue. Its taking someones life. Amazed by some of the surnames that are so charged up on the view point about the death penalty...... Do the history and read on/about our historical legal cases; notice those same surnames and see a pattern of some folks from those same surnames enjoying taking the lives of others. Focus on amending the Justice system that it has dire consequences than putting your energy in taking someones life - Imagine the wrongful deaths we might also be opening ourselves too (Like it does not happen currently).

Lyndsay Jensen
Lyndsay Jensen
  • Mzi Sipamla

But what else can you suggest Mzi, nothing seems to work - the justice system doesn't always hold true back home. Do more lives have to be lost to find the right solution? I'm lost for words at what is happening to people back home, know one has the right either to instill the fear that people are living with daily in SA. :( So what to do then....?

Patrick Francis
Patrick Francis
  • Mzi Sipamla

Noxolo, you bring God into the equation!
You just hung yourself...ha...ha...ha!
If you are a Christian and obviously aware of the 10 commandments
you would agree with the majority of us.
Do you have family behind bars?

Jennifer Mc Adam
Jennifer Mc Adam

Castrate the Bastards! we don't need them in our society, Not fit to live. I'm all for the DEATH penalty.

Lori van der Merwe
Lori van der Merwe
  • Jennifer Mc Adam

My thoughts exactly, an eye for an eye...

Frank James Gainsford
Frank James Gainsford
  • Jennifer Mc Adam

Pity you do not support the death penalty, this should be applied more liberally to include STOCK THEFT then those rhino poachers could also be included.

This action would stun the world, and strike fear into the thought process of would be criminals, especially if the execution was carried out in public with a HIGH MEDIA COVERAGE so that the message of community retribution could be seen and experienced by all in sundry.

Currently criminals are treated with more rights than us law abiding...

Pity you do not support the death penalty, this should be applied more liberally to include STOCK THEFT then those rhino poachers could also be included.

This action would stun the world, and strike fear into the thought process of would be criminals, especially if the execution was carried out in public with a HIGH MEDIA COVERAGE so that the message of community retribution could be seen and experienced by all in sundry.

Currently criminals are treated with more rights than us law abiding citizens, and once in JAIL, these criminals then get taught how to be better at doing crime, and share their stories of how they were caught so others can learn how to avoid the law...

Chris Clements
Chris Clements
  • Jennifer Mc Adam

Ya!!! kill people who kill people to teach others that killing is wrong, Its working great in the middle east, other then the fact innocents die in the process and it doesn't work.

Roelof Venter
Roelof Venter

It does not have to be a " Hanging ". Injections are acceptable, just remove the Scum from society. Clean up the house as ordinary citizens we have a right to live, work, socialize and die in a humane way. Not at the hands of sick- , barbaric individuals who enjoy more human rights, than us or their victims. Victims who are mostly killed in a diabolic way. May GOD have mercy on us unprotected citizens who do not have the luxury to claim state funds to safeguard their existence. GOD does not...

It does not have to be a " Hanging ". Injections are acceptable, just remove the Scum from society. Clean up the house as ordinary citizens we have a right to live, work, socialize and die in a humane way. Not at the hands of sick- , barbaric individuals who enjoy more human rights, than us or their victims. Victims who are mostly killed in a diabolic way. May GOD have mercy on us unprotected citizens who do not have the luxury to claim state funds to safeguard their existence. GOD does not sleep and he even new your name before you were conceived.

Carl Johnson
Carl Johnson
  • Roelof Venter

let them be eaten alive by ants

Ivan Shelley
Ivan Shelley
  • Roelof Venter

Carl BUD That is to slow what was the slogan <<< one boer, one bullet>>> lets reverse that<<< one convict ,one million bricks>>> No to hell with the bricks enough stones laying around

Chris Clements
Chris Clements
  • Roelof Venter

What ever happened to turning the other cheek and "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone." ?? Christians.......

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