NO WAY SHOULD THE CROSSES BE REMOVED! IF MR OBAMA WANTS NO CROSSES, TELL HIM TO MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY. THIS COUNTRY IS ONE NATION UNDER GOD AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE.
This idea was introduced by a Republican, by the way!! Check the facts!!!
Obama will not move to another country to be with his buddies in Muslim land. This Manchurian Candidate is out to destroy everything America stands for, that's why the communists, socialists, ultra-liberals, nazis, fascists, pacifists, totalitatarians, Big Government, Globalists, etc chose him. Take your pick it is the same old pick!! I despise the people who voted for Obama more than I despise Obama. I can't wait for the 2016 election and get rid of Obama. His legacy is zilch, nada. Phil Tropea www.philiptropea.blogspot.com
Kathy...I could care less what letter you put beside your name. This isn't about politics. This is a spiritual matter and should be judged on those merits." You can change the name of a rose but there ain't nothin' you can do about the smell"!
Kathy Mayo then he should be voted out, he must be an Obama k---a--! Get rid of him and send Obama with him.
Philip Tropea Well, I'm reading that he is planning on changing everything so he will run again and then there will be no more elections, he will be the DICTATOR!! I keep praying that it won't be true!!
Sorry buddy, you are wrong. I was there when the order came down and it was during Clinton's reign of terror. I was the one who had to go make the chapel on base neutral. Seems YOU need to check the facts and stop listening to Rachel Madcow.
Why don't you just cut to the chase and tell us who the Republican was Kathy.
Kathy Mayo Who cares? Republicans can be bought off if Democrats offer enough. Let me quote Hillary Clinton, "What does it matter?" If the Dems could care less about four American lives, why should a bought off Repub care about crosses?
Kathy Mayo , Please bring on the facts, I would be most interested seeing that myself. Why would any Republican be interested doing such a thing as that in the first place. I agree with Eddie Reynolds, he is absolutely right it's not about politics, it's a spirtual matter and should be judge by it's merits.
Philip Tropea , He's finished after this last term in office. Didn't anyone take heed and pay attention about the movie that was out during the election month... Obama's America 2012. Maybe you can rent the movie, this way you can see what the ordeal is truly about until the end of 2016.
the biggest Problem actually two of the biggest problems are 1. these Libtards try to make think that they are bigger than they really are, there was an old poster that was given to me when I was a teenager many moons ago, it read like this "If you can't befuddle them with brillance, baffle them with bullshit" and that Ladies and gentlemen is waht they are trying to do to the nation, and 2. we have all of these "immigrants" that come over to our country (which if fine I can understand that)...
the biggest Problem actually two of the biggest problems are 1. these Libtards try to make think that they are bigger than they really are, there was an old poster that was given to me when I was a teenager many moons ago, it read like this "If you can't befuddle them with brillance, baffle them with bullshit" and that Ladies and gentlemen is waht they are trying to do to the nation, and 2. we have all of these "immigrants" that come over to our country (which if fine I can understand that) but they expect us to kiss their collective asses, and they expect us to believe and be like them, that is where I draw the line, you come to my country, you become an American is that simple...period!
The Communist population of Russia during the Bolshevik Revolution was far less than 10%. The reason we have our freedoms is because our forefathers had the gumption to stand up against tyraany. Most Americans do not even know that their freedoms are in greater peril from Obama than the Imperial Japanese Navy of 1941!
Jerry Levon Ogles, calm down. We have a black president. You are OK. And Larry Ingram - your folks were immigrants too. American isn't equivalent to Christian. Find something to do with your time.
At last someone with basic common sense.
You make me sick
we have never had a person come from another country an pretend to be born here, an start taking over our country, where the hell is our protection, men an women sign up to go fight for other countries, but won't stand up an fight for our own, I don't mean to disrespect any an all service men an women that have already fought an many died for us, I'm talking about now, HERE. i know i'm going to get a lot of flak from this,
What the freakin hell are you speaking about Julie?? Yes, America is equivalent to us CHRISTians!! 52 members, out of 55, that wrote the Constitution were active CHRISTian members of their CHRISTian chuches. The Constitution was based on the Living Word of God!!
Lori Stephens ... apart from the bits where they privatly wrote it wasn't,and guarenteed their allies it wasn't, and created an amendment to garentee freedom of RELIGION, not christianity. Your idea of the founding fathers is mostly innacurate.
WE MUST TAKE A STAND AGAINST THIS AND STOP THESE ANTI CHRISTIANS. LET OUR VOICES BE HEARD.
You voices are heard TOO OFTEN.
Dale Knipple Funny how it's the liberals always fucking whining and moaning about shit they don't like. I only hear Christian responses, not statements...your side whines too damned much and that's the problem. Why don't you all just shut the hell up and deal with your own problems instead of trying to make them everyone elses?
Dale Knipple What kind of a dopey remark is that?????
hey sherry, i see you have a vulger mouth, if you dont repent, GOD will get you for what you have put on here, a true CHRISTIAN will never shup up, do you know why? because jesus told us to go out into the whole world, and to preach the GOSPEL, and that is what we are going to do, till JESUS calls us home, [SO GET USED TO IT BUDDY, and i HOPE, AND PREY that you get to know him as your LORD, AND SAVIOR before it is too late.
dont profess to be a CHRISTIAN but I still say'HELL NO"-leave thing the way they are.Dont try to fix something thats not broke....
I'm sure Dale has never served his country, and it is quite easy to make nasty remarks online.
Crosses are seen all over Arlington National Cemetery. Will our government take them all away?
Dale Knipple may you wake to a army ranger standing over your bed
Dale Knipple if You don't lik eit go To another country WE don't care what You think
Dale, move to China! You won't last 2 days, so get out!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bill ONeill ha ha It is dopey.
No absolutely NOT. North American is 80% christian and christians build our two coutries and its our history.
I was in the military for 6 years. I was not a Christian then, but never complained about the chapels or chaplains. This is a country founded on Judo-Christian beliefs, but we have in our Bill of Rights a sentence that states we have the freedom of religion, and no atheist or muslim, or crazed with power President can take that away. We will stand up for our rights, Christians have the same rights as any other religion!
ABSOLUTELY NOT WE NEED THE CROSS MORE THAN EVER PEOPLE COME HERE AND EXPECT US TO CHANGE EVERYTHING ABOUT OUR BELIEFS..IF U COME TO AMERICA, THEN IT IS UR DECISION, SO THEREFORE U HAVE TO ADAPT TO WHAT WE BELIEVE IN ACCEPT OUR RIGHTS..WE DONT TELL U HOW TO PRAY OR NOT TO WEAR YOUR CLOTHING WEAR
This is unacceptable! Our Country should stay with the beliefs and traditions that we have always had and treasured. In God We Trust and that should never be forgotten or taken away!!!!!
why would an atheist care if a chapel had a religious symbol or not? they would not be there.
why would a Muslim care if a chapel had a cross.
it is not a place of worship for them all they need is a direction to face.
It actually is. Chapels on military posts are used by every religious group on post for any need they may have as well as FRG meetings and solider briefings.
then removal should include all religious symbols of any faith.
I agree, and although I've never seen a Star of David or Pentacle, or any other religious symbol on any military building (aside from a cross), if I did I would be concerned about how other people feel walking into those spaces.
This doesn't really make sense to me. As a military BRAT of an Air Force chaplain I am well aware that religious neutral symbols are displayed at all times in the chapels except for when a specific religious service is in progress. E.g. Christian and Catholic crosses are hidden behind a partition curtain unless a Protestant or Catholic service is in progress. So, what exactly is the problem with having crosses in the chapels? They are usually not on full display anyway, or at least according to military regulations they are not supposed to be.
Maybe people are not obeying the regulations?
Or there could have been an incident with a group of 'Christians' being mean to the other religions.
I believe that the crosses should remain in the chapels. Obama once again tries to downplay christian symbols. It makes me believe more and more that he really is a muslim man. All he really is accomplishing is angering the very people he should be working with in Congress and alienating conservative christian community. He should be working with all sides to come up with a solution to the problem but he usually reacts instead of compromising.
What about offending Christians? This ia America...with our Christian roots, our English language, our Constitution and Bill of Rights, our laws and our ways. If Athiests and Muslims don't like it...let them move instead of taking our rights away! Obama is only the President, both terms, due to massive fraud, lies and deception. He WILL try to run for a 3rd term...you can bet on it! There is already a bill being introduced to stop term limits on the President. Didn't we know that was coming!...
What about offending Christians? This ia America...with our Christian roots, our English language, our Constitution and Bill of Rights, our laws and our ways. If Athiests and Muslims don't like it...let them move instead of taking our rights away! Obama is only the President, both terms, due to massive fraud, lies and deception. He WILL try to run for a 3rd term...you can bet on it! There is already a bill being introduced to stop term limits on the President. Didn't we know that was coming! But, I chose to believe that God is in control and with prayer and supplication, it can all change! If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face, I shall hear them from heaven and heal there land.
Yes Lucille I sure did know it was coming. Obama is destroying this Nation from the inside out!! I agree with you 100%..
The crosses should not be removed. This country was founded on God and the military defends this country. Military Christian chaplins wear the cross on their lapels to identify them as such. Military chapels have always displayed the cross. Soldiers far from home and in harms way need and pray to God. Prayer is big before deployments and during them. God is comfort to our Soldiers. If the nonbelievers and the atheists don't want the crosses, tough luck! Maybe they need God in their lives.
This article refers to the army regulations (although the link given doesn't work so I can not verify). According to the article (once again, unsubstantiated) it is against regulations to have any religious symbol permanently affixed to the structure. So (if the article is correct) they were in violation of army reg's having it in the first place. Perhaps if you have one of your old manuals you may be able to verify or debunk that claim. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/69039.html
Thank you Frank, well said!! If Atheist & Muslims don't like what we do or believe in then nothing is holding them here. I will help them PACK!!!!
This is the most disgusting deed any could do to the honor of an American soldier who fought, suffered and bled for the United States. The Judgement of God is truly upon our country with all these terrible events and deeds happening to the honor and respect we had as a people and nation.
Just a thought - what about all the soldiers who fought and bled and died who weren't christian? Do they not deserve respect?
Donna Fox What does that have to do with crosses being removed? ALL who died for this country deserves our total respect. What has obama done to deserve our respect?
Donna Fox Never heard them complain because they have a cross where they can see it. No one forces them to worship God. God doesn't even force people to worship him. If they are sent into another country to fight for them and they demand they remove anything Christian then I would not send them to that country. Let them fight their own fight. You can't respect one who doesn't believe in God by taking it away from those who do. Seems disrespecting them is okay with you ?
Donna Fox out of line. One has nothing to do with the other. Our country and our culture is based on the principle of the Christian Bible. They are welcome to their beliefs but why should our entire culture be gutted because someone gets offended. Guess what, being offended is part of life. Live with it like everyone else. The Bible said this would end in a religious war, and here it is in plain site.
Donna Fox you are missing the point, atheist dont wear a cross, so why keep the christian from wearing one, that is there choice and why do atheist care about crosses in the chaple, they dont go to church, so why in the hell do they need to take them down. if you are achristian then you are one them bowing down to the liberal, socialist, homos, atheist obamamites
roger i doubt there are many soldiers who go out to war souly for the benefit of their country. they go because they like to fight and kill people
Donna Fox If it offends them, and they made it known, they should not have a cross. MOST Americans ARE Christian and they/their families prefer having the cross.
As Christians we are required to pray for our leaders. Why are we as Americans so anti-Obama that we blame him for everything that is not Christian like.
Last December on a cold winter day, I along with thousands Americans volunteered to lay wreaths on the graves of our fallen soldiers. There were several graves without crosses and we did not place wreaths on them. We respected their rights. If someone is offended by crosses on military installations, then am I to assume they are offended...
Last December on a cold winter day, I along with thousands Americans volunteered to lay wreaths on the graves of our fallen soldiers. There were several graves without crosses and we did not place wreaths on them. We respected their rights. If someone is offended by crosses on military installations, then am I to assume they are offended by the millions on the graves of those who paid the ultimate price for the freedom we enjoy?
To Ms. Fox, because soldiers died without accepting Christ as Lord, does not mean they or their families are offended by the cross
Donna Fox Yes, they deserve respect. But, it is GOD who makes the final decision on who lives and who dies...So if they were anti-christian, it doesn't even matter, because GOD is the Judge of all things!!
Donna Fox many of the veterns who has died all have their own symbols on their tombstone. The problem we have in USA is Obama is allowing the emotion of others who control and destroy this country. USA is for all americans and for all religion background and hertigue . I think as a non christian it is a disgrace that obama would remove the cross from everywhere , but not others too. what obama did shows he has no respect for certain american citizens and that he favors the ones he will...
Donna Fox many of the veterns who has died all have their own symbols on their tombstone. The problem we have in USA is Obama is allowing the emotion of others who control and destroy this country. USA is for all americans and for all religion background and hertigue . I think as a non christian it is a disgrace that obama would remove the cross from everywhere , but not others too. what obama did shows he has no respect for certain american citizens and that he favors the ones he will disrespect, although I dont think it would be the muslims who would have an issue , because they actually respect jesus christ it is in their Quran. But I can believe the ones who are screaming the loudest are the athesis. Dont believe me ? check out this website They do have a facebook page as well.
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The 28th Amendment: The Freedom, Equality, Justice, Equal Rights, Complete Removal Of the Church From the State and the Prevention of a Theocracy Amendment
now the fb page is called - Pass The 28th Amendment - Complete Removal Of The Church From The State
Christian Americans the Supreme Being is not a Christian. He is for all religion background. Also we do have the LBGT community and the Supreme Being also made them too.
I don’t support what Obama did to the Christians, because if he will do this to you, who else will he do it too? USA is not a Judeo/Christian nation it states that in the 1st Amendment “congress shall not make no laws respecting of a religion” meaning congress will not make any laws based on a religion and to many politicians believes we need to change this country into where religion people can judge others and the laws should be based on the Judeo/Christian religion. I am sorry this is not what this country was founded for. Anyways Jesus did say didn’t he? you are to pray in private and you are not suppose to judge others and that you are suppose to love your neighbor as thyself. Please follow Jesus words and please stop preaching to others. Your bible laws are for Christians only they are not for non Christians.
Peace to all