Pamela Smith
Pamela Smith

There is no movement to change the name of Australia Day to Citizens Day. The claim that any political party is trying to anything of the kind is fallacious.
I'd wager that at least half of the people who have signed have no idea that January 26th has already had more than one name change (the current incarnation is less than 100 years old), and only the foggiest concept of the historical signifigants and events of the day itself.
The casual racism, xenophobia, religious intolerance, and...

There is no movement to change the name of Australia Day to Citizens Day. The claim that any political party is trying to anything of the kind is fallacious.
I'd wager that at least half of the people who have signed have no idea that January 26th has already had more than one name change (the current incarnation is less than 100 years old), and only the foggiest concept of the historical signifigants and events of the day itself.
The casual racism, xenophobia, religious intolerance, and gendered attack that have been oozing from the rhetoric surrounding this little non-issue have been truly astonishing. Well done all.

Pamela Smith
Pamela Smith
  • Pamela Smith

*do
*significance
*attacks
I apologise, I should definitely proof read before commenting.

Charles Pragnell
Charles Pragnell
  • Pamela Smith

Whether it is a non-issue or not in the terms described, it is a major issue among many Australians who are being denied a voice in the events which are shaping this country and its future belief systems, its values, and its development. Such blogs as this give those Australians the opportunity to publicly state their views and feelings and they should be able to do so without false accusations and slurs of `racism', `intolerance', and `xenophobia'. Many things are happening for which...

Whether it is a non-issue or not in the terms described, it is a major issue among many Australians who are being denied a voice in the events which are shaping this country and its future belief systems, its values, and its development. Such blogs as this give those Australians the opportunity to publicly state their views and feelings and they should be able to do so without false accusations and slurs of `racism', `intolerance', and `xenophobia'. Many things are happening for which governments have no mandate from the people, and they avoid the issues under discussion here when election times come around. Australia needs an open and frank debate about these issues and a referendum on future immigration and its implications before any further government moves to `multiculturalise' it.

Greg Briggs
Greg Briggs
  • Pamela Smith

Thank you Pamela for being the first person to look at this logically... I'm one of the more vocal non-Politically Correct people I know, so don't for one second think it SHOULD be changed to "Citizens Day" or whatever you fearmongers are touting today, because it shouldn't.

But you should realise that there has been no/none/zero/nil/sweet FA attempts by Parliament to change the name. None. Yes, some people will spout opinions about wanting this or that... but you know what? Until something...

Thank you Pamela for being the first person to look at this logically... I'm one of the more vocal non-Politically Correct people I know, so don't for one second think it SHOULD be changed to "Citizens Day" or whatever you fearmongers are touting today, because it shouldn't.

But you should realise that there has been no/none/zero/nil/sweet FA attempts by Parliament to change the name. None. Yes, some people will spout opinions about wanting this or that... but you know what? Until something comes up in Parliament, nothing will change the name. Get off your high horses everyone, it's a complete non-issue.

Keep Calm, and have a friggen beer

Colleen Sleer
Colleen Sleer
  • Pamela Smith

Well said Pamela, a lot more gracious than I could ever have been.

Angela Parfitt
Angela Parfitt
  • Pamela Smith

Citizen day is in September. AND it is a totally different issue. i can't believe this page was made and sooooo many people fell for it. I am very sad to see this. Who ever suggested there was a competition between our celebrations. New citizens who wish to celebrate taking the plunge into our nation celebrate, sounds good to me, seeing new Australians appreciating our country.... nothing threatening, scary or stupid there!! Just here on this page...

David William Parr
David William Parr
  • Pamela Smith

Onya Pamela for your sensible comments. More power to your name:)
Hope you don't mind, but I have copied and pasted your comments to my wall, and have also added them to anyone who sends me an invitation to sign this ridiculous petition!!

Pamela Smith
Pamela Smith
  • Pamela Smith

Thanks all. David, you're more than welcome to use my words, but please do edit them. I wrote in haste, and my fingers got the better of me. Fix any spelling or logical errors. lol

Pamela Smith
Pamela Smith
  • Pamela Smith

As for your comments Mr. Pragnell, I must confess myself unequal to divining much sense from them.
Suffice it to say, that if you had seen (as I have) the vile hatred spewed forth from our fellow Australians on any of the facebook pages devoted to this non-issue (and it really is a non-issue, it is a hoax, nothing more, nothing less) you would not be so quick to argue that the debate surrounding the topic has not stirred up a seething hornet's nest of racial vilification, religious...

As for your comments Mr. Pragnell, I must confess myself unequal to divining much sense from them.
Suffice it to say, that if you had seen (as I have) the vile hatred spewed forth from our fellow Australians on any of the facebook pages devoted to this non-issue (and it really is a non-issue, it is a hoax, nothing more, nothing less) you would not be so quick to argue that the debate surrounding the topic has not stirred up a seething hornet's nest of racial vilification, religious intolerance and misogyny.
These are not false accusations, they are the sad truth that some of my fellow Australians have used this hoax to air their most base and cruel thoughts on anyone who doesn't look, think and act like they do.
Scroll through post after post of the same semi-literate 'Go back where ya came from', xenophobic nonsense, and then tell me that my accusations are false, and I will call you a liar or a fool sir.

Kerry Allen-Traeger
Kerry Allen-Traeger
  • Pamela Smith

As Charles has stated it is not only about the perception of Australia day being changed..it is a push to change our whole culture...When my daughter was attending a local preschool some years ago, we were invited to their Christmas concert..A very large percentage...99% of the children were of Christian background...various denominations.. We were very shocked when the scheduled 'Christmas concert' was actually a concert on Dinosaurs...The children were banned from singing Christmas songs,...

As Charles has stated it is not only about the perception of Australia day being changed..it is a push to change our whole culture...When my daughter was attending a local preschool some years ago, we were invited to their Christmas concert..A very large percentage...99% of the children were of Christian background...various denominations.. We were very shocked when the scheduled 'Christmas concert' was actually a concert on Dinosaurs...The children were banned from singing Christmas songs, making Christmas gifts and actually acknowledging Christmas at all really... WHY?? Because there was ONE child at the preschool who was Islamic...and the school did not want to offend either him or his family, so instead offended the majority. This is what is wrong about the way our culture is being obliterated...The Islamic child had been accepted into the kindy, was well liked and valued. His parents had made the choice to send him to the preschool instead of one of the Islamic schools nearby, yet our children were forced to ignore their beliefs in attempts not to offend this one family...Would such attempts be made for our benifit
if we were to go and live in an Islamic country???? Mmmmm I very much doubt that.

Marlene Wickham
Marlene Wickham

Why do we always need to be changing everything? We seem to be bending to everyone else's will, people come here for the reason, of what is good & great in Australia, the luck country - don't change our holidays, don't change our flag, and yes we do have our own traditions, its just that we have been celebrating them for a little less than some other countries.
We need not only to be proud of being Australians on Australia Day but all of the time..... we have the best country for fairness,...

Why do we always need to be changing everything? We seem to be bending to everyone else's will, people come here for the reason, of what is good & great in Australia, the luck country - don't change our holidays, don't change our flag, and yes we do have our own traditions, its just that we have been celebrating them for a little less than some other countries.
We need not only to be proud of being Australians on Australia Day but all of the time..... we have the best country for fairness, open mindedness and for giving everyone a fair go, isn't it time that others give us a fair go, and let us keep what is our traditions, and our Australian values and our way of life!

Jacqui Ferris
Jacqui Ferris
  • Marlene Wickham

Marlene, I agree with you 110% about that. If the people who come to our country aren't happy here, then why do they stay?

Joel Meredith
Joel Meredith
  • Marlene Wickham

Jacqui: We in USA are facing the same dilemma - immigrants trying to change the Country in a way that can only lead to its ruin... (I can empathize with your drama)

Joy Jhugroo
Joy Jhugroo
  • Marlene Wickham

Marlene, you say ""We have the best country for fairness,open mindedness and for giving everyone a fair go"". Haven't you been reading the comments of your fellow Ausralians? Their comments alone prove you incorrect. Just look at what Jacqui Ferris wrote..racist Nationalistic dogma if I ever saw it. Is anyone out there looking at the perspective of our Indigenous people?

Debbie Lee Nash-Fuggle
Debbie Lee Nash-Fuggle
  • Marlene Wickham

We did not cause the indigineos problems. 200 YEARS AGO THE PROBLEM WAS CAUSED. i FOR ONE WAS BORN IN 1962 and therefore have no guilt to this matter. Goverments cause the laws to change. Aboriganals are audtralians just like you and me and there for should rejoice in their freedom, their health and their loyalty. Persons are responsible for their OWN actions and how they behave. We live by the choices we make. None of us are perfect. But we try at least to be tolerant and abide by what we...

We did not cause the indigineos problems. 200 YEARS AGO THE PROBLEM WAS CAUSED. i FOR ONE WAS BORN IN 1962 and therefore have no guilt to this matter. Goverments cause the laws to change. Aboriganals are audtralians just like you and me and there for should rejoice in their freedom, their health and their loyalty. Persons are responsible for their OWN actions and how they behave. We live by the choices we make. None of us are perfect. But we try at least to be tolerant and abide by what we believe in. All through the ages Australians have fought to free their country in world wars. If you come to live in Australia live by our rules by law. accept our policys for they have worked to keep our country stable. Be happy here and and live your religion but don't force us in a country to change because you came here. live peacably and know that we all have different beliefs but those beliefs should not change the fact the we are all australians and therefore unite together on this day and celebrate it together on this day.

Sally Lawson
Sally Lawson
  • Marlene Wickham

go away you luny, loopy lefty,it's people like you that's causing half of the problems.

Guy Lachina
Guy Lachina
  • Marlene Wickham

Joy Jhugroo - does history and the atrocities that have been bestowed upon the Aboriginals and Torres Strait Islanders justify deleting the Australian identity. Of course not but then you live in the The Hauge, the centre of corruption where no one has an opinion other than yours and your communist buddies. Why dont you look at the decimation of the Netherlands under the hands of the left wing lunatics before you judge Australians.

Paul Emerson
Paul Emerson
  • Marlene Wickham

Shut up you idiot!! OUR indiginous people are Australians ...Not imports!

Paul Agius
Paul Agius
  • Marlene Wickham

great thinking Joy i am not Aboriginal but they are willing to share their country and we should be more considerate.

Sammy Davis
Sammy Davis

Which ignorant, out of touch, politically correct {? }, moronic brain dead imbecile came up with this idea. What's next, an illegal immigrant day?

Natalie Holland
Natalie Holland
  • Sammy Davis

HA! Harsh but true...

Jacqui Ferris
Jacqui Ferris
  • Sammy Davis

The government are morons. They may not like to think so but they are.

Michael Powell
Michael Powell
  • Sammy Davis

Yes an illegals day, pick them up and send them back.

Black Bear
Black Bear
  • Sammy Davis

Naa it will be Political Parasite Day

Stephen Lamprey
Stephen Lamprey
  • Sammy Davis

I signed..but I'm sorry to say our way of life is already change to the degree I am not recognising the country I grew up in.

Giulio Petrella
Giulio Petrella
  • Sammy Davis

The Government is The anti christ

Sheree Lucas
Sheree Lucas
  • Sammy Davis

Now you're talking Mike!!

James Arblaster
James Arblaster
  • Sammy Davis

Just so you know, this is false. This is absolutely not true. People need to do more research before signing these things. There is no move to change Australia Day to Citizens' Day. And we do celebrate Australia and the bravery of Australians several days of the year, including ANZAC Day. I don't see how you can feel like Australian values as a whole are threatened if people suggest moving our national holiday from a day which marks a British invasion to establish a penal colony. Surely...

Just so you know, this is false. This is absolutely not true. People need to do more research before signing these things. There is no move to change Australia Day to Citizens' Day. And we do celebrate Australia and the bravery of Australians several days of the year, including ANZAC Day. I don't see how you can feel like Australian values as a whole are threatened if people suggest moving our national holiday from a day which marks a British invasion to establish a penal colony. Surely we're better than that. http://theantibogan.wordpress.com/2012/01/26/happy-citizens-day-sorry-australia-day/

Kerry Allen-Traeger
Kerry Allen-Traeger

I am not at all racist, in fact I take pride in the fact that I accept and befriend people of all nationalities and cultures..some of my good friends are immigrants, my children also have many friends of different nationalities and cultures...I do not think keeping Australia day as it is is a racist act...Why are we as Australians made to feel like racists for celebrating the great country that we live in? Why are we constantly being forced to change our culture and traditions to suit the...

I am not at all racist, in fact I take pride in the fact that I accept and befriend people of all nationalities and cultures..some of my good friends are immigrants, my children also have many friends of different nationalities and cultures...I do not think keeping Australia day as it is is a racist act...Why are we as Australians made to feel like racists for celebrating the great country that we live in? Why are we constantly being forced to change our culture and traditions to suit the people who chose to come and live here, but were not born here..I am not racist but, I am proud to be Australian..why should I feel guilty about that? Our country has accepted people of all cultures into our communities, embraced their traditions. The Chinese celebrate their own Chinese Newyear, many Islamic only schools and places of worship have been constructed that do not invite people of other cultures or beliefs to attend, yet we are unable to have an Australia day that is inclusive to all people who live in our great country, no matter their race, religion or culture....How would it be accepted if we made if policy to obliterate any holiday, school, place of worship etc...that was not inclusive of 100% of all Australians...many many immigrants would be up in arms about having Australian born christians attend their schools or temples if such a thing was employed. Yet we as Australians are meant to just sit back and accept the obliteration of a day that we have been celebrating for so many years...something is very wrong with that...

Pamela Smith
Pamela Smith
  • Kerry Allen-Traeger

Hoax. This is a hoax. Thirty seconds spent doing the absolute minimum of research would tell you this is a hoax.

Patrick McCormick
Patrick McCormick

there has never been any government proposal to change the name http://theantibogan.wordpress.com/2012/01/26/happy-citizens-day-sorry-australia-day/.

Gael Simon
Gael Simon

I don't agree with this at all, I think Australians should be proud of being Australians everyday and NOT just Australia Day as mentioned in this text, plus I dislike the word "colonization". To me Australia Day has the awful meaning of the day the white person came to invade the continent and massacred the True Australians. Don't forget you are all foreigners here, as I am, maybe from much older generations but still foreigners, whether it be, Irish, English etc... It's very egotistical to...

I don't agree with this at all, I think Australians should be proud of being Australians everyday and NOT just Australia Day as mentioned in this text, plus I dislike the word "colonization". To me Australia Day has the awful meaning of the day the white person came to invade the continent and massacred the True Australians. Don't forget you are all foreigners here, as I am, maybe from much older generations but still foreigners, whether it be, Irish, English etc... It's very egotistical to say "We are Australians and everyone else isn't"...you are an immigrant as everyone else. I wouldn't like to change the day to "Citizen's Day" either but just because it's sounds stupid. Cheers mateys! ;-)

Luky Charlier
Luky Charlier
  • Gael Simon

you're right, bravo! chère madame!! :-)

Sharon Power- Franklin

Stick with AUSSIES DAY ...THAT'S WHAT THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS.......

Leigh Andrews
Leigh Andrews

We are all citizens BUT THIS IS AUSTRALIA and our WW1 & WW2 and all our current DEFENCE FORCE men and women fought to keep this country AUSTRALIA a free country, why the hell are you GOVERNMENT IDIOTS trying to take away EVERYTHING AUSTRALIAN, for GOD'S SAKE, our AUSTRALIAN kids have been stopped from celebrating EASTER in schools, and CHRISTMAS in schools and YOU GOVERNMENT IDIOTS WANT TO TAKE AWAY THE CELEBRATING OF ANZAC COMMEMORATION what next ARE WE ALL GOING TO BE LIVING UNDER SHARIA...

We are all citizens BUT THIS IS AUSTRALIA and our WW1 & WW2 and all our current DEFENCE FORCE men and women fought to keep this country AUSTRALIA a free country, why the hell are you GOVERNMENT IDIOTS trying to take away EVERYTHING AUSTRALIAN, for GOD'S SAKE, our AUSTRALIAN kids have been stopped from celebrating EASTER in schools, and CHRISTMAS in schools and YOU GOVERNMENT IDIOTS WANT TO TAKE AWAY THE CELEBRATING OF ANZAC COMMEMORATION what next ARE WE ALL GOING TO BE LIVING UNDER SHARIA LAW, I AM A PROUD AUSTRALIAN and although l am a citizen I AM AUSTRALIAN FIRST! GET SOME BALLS YOU STUPID BLOODY POLITICIANS AND WAKE UP AND SMELL THE FLOWERS, STOP TRYING TO BE POLITICALLY CORRECT, AND BE PROUD TO BE AN AUSTRALIAN, STOP TAKING EVERYTHING AWAY FROM US AUSTRALIANS AND OUR KIDS! IF YOU CAN'T DO THAT THEN GET OUT OF POLITICS!

Pamela Smith
Pamela Smith
  • Leigh Andrews

The sheer idiocy is breathtaking.

Rowena Morgan
Rowena Morgan

I would like to see some proof that any party would dare attempt this :P

Catherine Butchart
Catherine Butchart
  • Rowena Morgan

Where there is smoke there is fire ...... an awareness raising of someone's offhanded comment perhaps?

Rowena Morgan
Rowena Morgan
  • Rowena Morgan

Probabl...and I doubt they are in any position to action it either!

Rowena Morgan
Rowena Morgan
  • Rowena Morgan

Probably...sheesh!

Judith Essex-Clark
Judith Essex-Clark
  • Rowena Morgan

Wonder where it all came from? I've heard it a lot lately :/

Catherine Butchart
Catherine Butchart
  • Rowena Morgan

me too ....

Diane Essex-Clark
Diane Essex-Clark
  • Rowena Morgan

But have you heard it anywhere other than on Facebook?

Charles Pragnell
Charles Pragnell

This is about the last straw from the PC Mafia. The purpose of multiculturalism is to contaminate, corrupt, and eventually destroy the existing culture - that is implicit in its purpose and is what the multiculturalists are advocating both openly and surreptitiously. Australia has a predominantly EuroCentric culture drawing from the cultural developments of many European nations and their art, music, sculptures, democratic political systems, and religious tolerance etc. If these are to be...

This is about the last straw from the PC Mafia. The purpose of multiculturalism is to contaminate, corrupt, and eventually destroy the existing culture - that is implicit in its purpose and is what the multiculturalists are advocating both openly and surreptitiously. Australia has a predominantly EuroCentric culture drawing from the cultural developments of many European nations and their art, music, sculptures, democratic political systems, and religious tolerance etc. If these are to be changed, then it should be openly stated by political candidates prior to their election and not done by stealth or swamping the country with foreign nationals who do not share those cultural ideals.

Charles Pragnell
Charles Pragnell
  • Charles Pragnell

You are making some grossly distorted assumptions of what I have said. I am describing the present pre-dominant culture in Australia and which is Eurocentric because it was created by the Europeans who came to this country over the last three centuries. Yes there is a pre-existing original subculture which exists alongside and occasionally the two cultures inter-relate. I see a lot of criticism of the effects that the invasion and occupation of Australia by Europenas has had on the...

You are making some grossly distorted assumptions of what I have said. I am describing the present pre-dominant culture in Australia and which is Eurocentric because it was created by the Europeans who came to this country over the last three centuries. Yes there is a pre-existing original subculture which exists alongside and occasionally the two cultures inter-relate. I see a lot of criticism of the effects that the invasion and occupation of Australia by Europenas has had on the aboriginal peoples, but perhaps you can tell us what kind of aboriginal society would exist if the Europeans had not done so. What changes and improvements were made in aboriginal society in the 40,000 years they were present in Australia.?. We can only compare and evaluate cultures in terms of their resoective evolution and progress in improving the lives of the members of those societies.

Percy W Collins
Percy W Collins
  • Charles Pragnell

I am so sad Paul that your history about aborigines came from your "uneducated school teachers and the Aboriginal Broadcasting Commission"! Have a read about the true facts of aboriginal immigration. Read this "true record of Aborigines". "Savage Frontier" thoroughly documented and tells a totally different story to yours! All Australians need this education, not lies and more lies that are continually fed to us in the guise of education.

Mel Freeman
Mel Freeman
  • Charles Pragnell

Paul Waku Finlay why don't you go back to where you came from!! hahahahahahahahahah

Deborah Golding
Deborah Golding
  • Charles Pragnell

I'm hearing you Paul, this is a hard line to push here because many of the people who made it to this site are still unaware of the postcolonialist view you have obviously been exposed to. You're right, but I think considering this country has identity problems at the best of times (perhaps because of our mottled beginnings) the Government need to leave these iconic symbols alone and offer instead, a new initiative to blend into our society more subtle changes. They should know this by now,...

I'm hearing you Paul, this is a hard line to push here because many of the people who made it to this site are still unaware of the postcolonialist view you have obviously been exposed to. You're right, but I think considering this country has identity problems at the best of times (perhaps because of our mottled beginnings) the Government need to leave these iconic symbols alone and offer instead, a new initiative to blend into our society more subtle changes. They should know this by now, but perhaps this violent and proud backlash has been orchestrated to help reject the changes anyway??? P.S. For the rest of you, we aren't known by the rest of the world as "the most racist country" for nothing, take a look at yourselves!

Angela Parfitt
Angela Parfitt
  • Charles Pragnell

I am surprised Charles that you believe because the Indigenous did not need to evolve that our values supersede theirs- what white dominated thinking you have demonstrated. In fact, I would counter your thinking by the severe disadvantage our colonising has had on the Aboriginal people. You think our way of life has 'improved' Australia as opposed to theirs...something is wrong here!

Karen Cole
Karen Cole
  • Charles Pragnell

Paul Waku Finlay Fuk off back to europe kent your kids are missin ya

Karen Cole
Karen Cole
  • Charles Pragnell

Paul Waku Finlay you got a big mouth. We support and your fekin lucky we havent animalistic values. You can hype all you want shut ya fekin mouth and go sit in the corner, hope you get sent back

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