Evan Sidener
Evan Sidener

I can only agree with the second point of this petition. The 3rd point is not valid because only those who have made multiple accounts should be punished not everyone who uses the page. While I do not believe in the reckless killing of wolves I do believe in the freedom of speech. Also I have visited one of their pages and while a lot of the page is devoted to hating wolves they have informative stuff as well like videos on how to trap wolves. Your petition is simply an attempt to silence...

I can only agree with the second point of this petition. The 3rd point is not valid because only those who have made multiple accounts should be punished not everyone who uses the page. While I do not believe in the reckless killing of wolves I do believe in the freedom of speech. Also I have visited one of their pages and while a lot of the page is devoted to hating wolves they have informative stuff as well like videos on how to trap wolves. Your petition is simply an attempt to silence those who have a different opinion then you. Also the whole Native American racism is bullshit you used to get facebook to remove their pages. I found no comments racist towards Native Americans on the page which leads me to believe you are saying it is racist towards Native Americans to kill wolves which is simply not true. This whole petition is an attempt to silence those who you disagree with you. You disgust me.

Sharon Gray
Sharon Gray
  • Evan Sidener

Look at the screen shots on this petition. They certainly are racist against Native Americans, and many others. And I said their actions are OFFENSIVE to many Native American tribes who are trying to protect the wolves that live on their land, that they consider to be brothers. This has nothing to do with free speech. Free speech has its limits, and one of them is torture. When these behaviors are posted on a public forum with content standards, they are no longer protected under the blanket...

Look at the screen shots on this petition. They certainly are racist against Native Americans, and many others. And I said their actions are OFFENSIVE to many Native American tribes who are trying to protect the wolves that live on their land, that they consider to be brothers. This has nothing to do with free speech. Free speech has its limits, and one of them is torture. When these behaviors are posted on a public forum with content standards, they are no longer protected under the blanket of free speech. And there are many other "informative" sites where you can learn about trapping and hunting that don't promote torture and cruelty.

Evan Sidener
Evan Sidener
  • Evan Sidener

commenting about torture on a social networking site isn't torture. So free speech still applies here. If you do not like what they say don't read it. Instead make a save the wolves page instead of attacking someone for having a different point of view.

Anne Macpherson
Anne Macpherson

As Robert Burns says in his great poem "To A Mouse" "We have broken the bound between man and nature" and indeed we have. Every living thing on this planet, including us has a right to life. The problem is that we humans think that we have more of a right than the animals. I personally don't like snakes, but they have a purpose. And during the Black plague, mistaken "learned" people said, it is the witches cats that are causing this sickness, kill all the cats. By doing so, the Norwegian...

As Robert Burns says in his great poem "To A Mouse" "We have broken the bound between man and nature" and indeed we have. Every living thing on this planet, including us has a right to life. The problem is that we humans think that we have more of a right than the animals. I personally don't like snakes, but they have a purpose. And during the Black plague, mistaken "learned" people said, it is the witches cats that are causing this sickness, kill all the cats. By doing so, the Norwegian Rat, carrier of the plague spreading fleas won the day. So let's not kill the cat. Also even more upsetting to me is the fact that there is no known evidence of a wolf attacking a human unless provoked. They are part of our natural treasure. The balance of nature is maintained by have the right number of predators and prey. In Yellowstone Park, where wolves were allowed to multiply and the balance between the elk and the rest of nature was re-etablished, new species of tress, flowers, grasses began to grow. Here in New York State in the Hudson Valley wolves have been re-established along with the Catamount ( Mountain Lion) and the tremendous over population of deer and coyote have been culled. The hunters are happy because the deer are healthier, the weak and the sick have been culled in a natural way. NEWS FLASH: It was reported that there are less than 300 wolverines left in the wild in the United States, while I would not like to meet one, they too have the right to life. What, oh What are we doing to our Mother Earth and to ourselves. Enough said!

Sharon Gray
Sharon Gray
  • Anne Macpherson

Absolutely correct.

Fiona Deveney
Fiona Deveney

Mark Zuckerberg seems a nice young guy and probably is open to people asking for things which are fair and reasonable- and I'm sure he would not be in favour of torture and cruelty. Could I suggest perhaps changing the wording from 'we demand' to perhaps something a little gentler which doesn't seem to be accusing him of complying with the torture? the way we ask people and word things can make a big difference; I know that many people who are busy just won't even look at something if they...

Mark Zuckerberg seems a nice young guy and probably is open to people asking for things which are fair and reasonable- and I'm sure he would not be in favour of torture and cruelty. Could I suggest perhaps changing the wording from 'we demand' to perhaps something a little gentler which doesn't seem to be accusing him of complying with the torture? the way we ask people and word things can make a big difference; I know that many people who are busy just won't even look at something if they are not spoken to with some sensitivity and respect... so for the animals' sake we ALL need to ( me included!) think about the way we phrase things in order to get people to WANT to listen to what we are saying.....whoever wrote this, I am sure you meant well, but this is just something that has occured to me... as animal advocates we all need to win favour, not oppostion! Thankyou for reading this and thankyou ( whoever you are!) for raising the issue and doing something about it.... :)

Sharon Gray
Sharon Gray
  • Fiona Deveney

That is good advice and I will think about how to change the wording. It was originally designed to get his attention and let him know that we are serious. There have been numerous of these petitions and they have all gone ignored. I am also trying to get media attention for the cause. Thank you for your suggestions.

Mary Wehr
Mary Wehr

All I can say is what the hell is wrong with people? Take down the freaking page and start acting like decent human beings!

Mary Wehr
Mary Wehr
  • Mary Wehr

I wonder why some 'so called' offensive pictures are taken down but things like this stays up!

Chris Cairns
Chris Cairns

The atrocity here is not virtual, it's actual. Removing that page rights no wrongs in the world. This lunatic, whoever he is, will still be loose in reality and will still have the opportunity to indulge his (surely sexual) obsession with killing wolves. Besides, this guy is a classic troll. There's almost no way, barring some form of traumatic brain injury, that he's unaware that other people find his behavior reprehensible. Not to mention that a person displaying obsession, dysfunction,...

The atrocity here is not virtual, it's actual. Removing that page rights no wrongs in the world. This lunatic, whoever he is, will still be loose in reality and will still have the opportunity to indulge his (surely sexual) obsession with killing wolves. Besides, this guy is a classic troll. There's almost no way, barring some form of traumatic brain injury, that he's unaware that other people find his behavior reprehensible. Not to mention that a person displaying obsession, dysfunction, and sociopathy, of the magnitude here almost never quarantine those issues to one psycho-social realm. I'm willing to bet everything this guy does, from his grooming habits to the way he eats his breakfast screams WEIRDO. No doubt he's the type of guy that makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up when he walks by and just a waft of his BO starts alarm bells clanging in your reptile brain. And yet, instead of hiding away from the world, masturbating in shame to his wolf corpse porn, he posts it online, surely knowing everyone will be horrified. WHY? I'm going to make a logical leap and conclude that it's because this very societal rejection transforms his sick, shameful, fetish into a statement. Against the clamoring masses this guy is a rebel playing by his own rules, in isolation, he's just a creep popping boners over dead dogs. So what I'm saying is, if you sign this petition you are feeding the beast not starving it. P.S. I almost find the obligatory and (sigh) oh so predictable picture of minstrelsy Obama cum watermelon more depressing.

Sharon Gray
Sharon Gray
  • Chris Cairns

Problem is, it isn't just one guy. It's many guys and girls. This is actually socially acceptable where they live.

Nancy Bernard
Nancy Bernard

What is wrong with people? Don't we have enough budding serial killers. Look at the man who kidnapped and is holding the little 5 year old boy in a bunker, he beat a neighbor's dog to death with a pipe just because the dog wandered on his property. Apparently that was OK because, as usual, these monsters are not punished because it is "just and animal" and then they are surprised when the perpetrator, the heinous monster, finally takes his perversion and his wrath out on innocent children....

What is wrong with people? Don't we have enough budding serial killers. Look at the man who kidnapped and is holding the little 5 year old boy in a bunker, he beat a neighbor's dog to death with a pipe just because the dog wandered on his property. Apparently that was OK because, as usual, these monsters are not punished because it is "just and animal" and then they are surprised when the perpetrator, the heinous monster, finally takes his perversion and his wrath out on innocent children. If you leave sites like this up, you are as much a part of the problem as these hateful idiots!

Elizabeth Startz-Stec
Elizabeth Startz-Stec
  • Nancy Bernard

Hi Nancy, haven't seen you lately. I'm so glad we share this love of animals and try to alleviate the suffering of the innocents. Love what you posted here.

Cinder Morse
Cinder Morse

I am 110% for the safety of cats and dogs. Rattlesnakes....kill them, they can kill our dogs and cats with one bite.

Sharon Gray
Sharon Gray
  • Cinder Morse

People can kill your dogs and cats too....and your dogs and cats can kill each other.....really not following your logic.

Dianne Chiavarini
Dianne Chiavarini

So what do you do when there becomes to many wolves to maintain a healthy population? When the game they chase becomes so depleted they begin to starve or start feeding on live stock and pets. You idiots don't have that answer. Maybe you should all practice self extermination to make room for the wolf.

Sharon Gray
Sharon Gray
  • Dianne Chiavarini

You are asking questions of management. Those issues are way too complex to address here, and are irrelevant to this petition. This is about torture, not management. Two totally separate issues. There ARE alternative non-lethal management solutions, too, fyi. Doesn't sound like you would be receptive to hearing them, though. You should probably let someone answer your question before assuming they can't and calling them an idiot. Really doesn't make you sound very intelligent.

Lorna Baxter
Lorna Baxter

The photos are so heart wrenching. I think the page should left up to show who's doing these ugly things. Let them have their freedom on fb. We should see if they're in an area where it's legal to hunt wolves. Maybe they're not. If people don't like the ugliness of this, I don't want this swept under a rug. I want people to get busy and send a message! I'm hoping it will be enough that people will boycott the hunters business, boycott tourism to the area that allows this to happen, forward...

The photos are so heart wrenching. I think the page should left up to show who's doing these ugly things. Let them have their freedom on fb. We should see if they're in an area where it's legal to hunt wolves. Maybe they're not. If people don't like the ugliness of this, I don't want this swept under a rug. I want people to get busy and send a message! I'm hoping it will be enough that people will boycott the hunters business, boycott tourism to the area that allows this to happen, forward the pictures to PETA and any other organizations that protect wild life. Post the phone#'s, email and postal addresses of the area politicians, then flood them with calls and letters of how appalling this is that they would allow this. Don't worry! By the time we do this, his own people and good ole boy politicians will make him take it down. How many people are just seeing this kind of thing for the first time? I think what this jerk did was educate us in how disconnected one can be to be able to feel fine about doing such a thing.

Sharon Gray
Sharon Gray
  • Lorna Baxter

Unfortunately, these things have all been done (though it certainly couldn't hurt to continue). These guys ARE the politicians in these areas- or at least have close associations with them. PETA is aware, Defenders of Wildlife have been actively pursuing the matter for years. I have personally contacted politicians as well as tourism councils in every one of these states. The farmers and the ranchers have too much local pull; it's all about money. The key is to get national media attention....

Unfortunately, these things have all been done (though it certainly couldn't hurt to continue). These guys ARE the politicians in these areas- or at least have close associations with them. PETA is aware, Defenders of Wildlife have been actively pursuing the matter for years. I have personally contacted politicians as well as tourism councils in every one of these states. The farmers and the ranchers have too much local pull; it's all about money. The key is to get national media attention. That seems to be the only thing that frightens politicians in to action. That is one of my hopes with this petition.

Patrick Glenn
Patrick Glenn

violence not your nature, sign in as something other than a human, humankind's nature hast mostly always been @ violent uprising, and those who cannot do, change. violence has been substream media since violence became media.
animal cruelty however will not be tolerated.
teaching a dog right right form wrong is not the same as killing deer for sport, but the same principles apply, you gotta be real or get off the field.
killing for food is acceptable, and the only acceptable option, unless in danger, imo.

Katja Tissari
Katja Tissari
  • Patrick Glenn

so its ok if i talk those retards into commiting colLective suicide? .... i know, waste of my time. but they realLy rink up the vibes. ...i alLready have a lisence 4 the partypoopers, innit

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