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Paul Bates
Paul Bates

KEEP THE BEDROOM TAX. It's not a tax it's a cut in housing benefit!
I like the idea of a bedroom tax. If you are claiming housing benefit for a 5 bedroom house and only need 2 bedrooms I think you should have your benefits cut! I don''t want to pay for someone else to live in luxury while the person claiming benefit probably isn't even working. If they don't want to lose benefits they should move to a smaller house and someone who needs 5 bedrooms can have theirs. Then we won't need to build as many new 5 bedroom council houses.

Becks Roan
Becks Roan
  • Paul Bates

You do have a point there. Just round the corner from me there used to be a mother and son in two council houses. She was in her 80's and alone in a 3 bed for at least 15 years. Her son just down the road also has a 3 bed, he lives alone apart from about six weekend visits from his young daughter every year.

Catherine Baker
Catherine Baker
  • Paul Bates

Or this........If the goverments had not let every 1 else in this country & give them houses just like that, then there would be no shortage would there, so its ok 2 toss people out on the streets & ignore their rights 2 a family life is it, which by the way is 1 of your human rights, plenty of people coming into this country & using those human rights 2 get housed, but we in our own country dont have the same, are you having a laugh here?, there are thousands of empty property's now boarded...

Or this........If the goverments had not let every 1 else in this country & give them houses just like that, then there would be no shortage would there, so its ok 2 toss people out on the streets & ignore their rights 2 a family life is it, which by the way is 1 of your human rights, plenty of people coming into this country & using those human rights 2 get housed, but we in our own country dont have the same, are you having a laugh here?, there are thousands of empty property's now boarded up, empty, yet they can borrow 32billion 2 build a stupid railway route that only Bankers & VIPS's will ever use, don't see anyone complaining about that, or that the rich get council tax rebates on their spare rooms whilst the poor, sick & disabled have 2 pay 4 their extra spare room, when you sign a legal document saying your home is 4 life, then that's how it should be, proper makes me angry that some of you on here are that ignorant of the facts of peoples lifes, their situations, their disabilities, why don't you go tell it 2 the goverments, instead of being brainwashed by there clever tactics, certainly know where my vote is going at the next election!

Catherine Baker
Catherine Baker
  • Paul Bates

Go waste your uneducated opinion elsewhere, your on the wrong site 2 do that!

Catherine Baker
Catherine Baker
  • Paul Bates

Do you understand what social housing is, some people have been thru hell b4 they were homed, waited 6yrs or more on waiting lists, even living in B&B's, Besits, Hostels, battered women refuges ect ect then still waited fairly on the waiting system, unlike outsiders who come here & get it just like that........In the United Kingdom, housing associations are private, non-profit making organisations that provide low-cost "social housing" for people in need of a home. Any trading surplus is...

Do you understand what social housing is, some people have been thru hell b4 they were homed, waited 6yrs or more on waiting lists, even living in B&B's, Besits, Hostels, battered women refuges ect ect then still waited fairly on the waiting system, unlike outsiders who come here & get it just like that........In the United Kingdom, housing associations are private, non-profit making organisations that provide low-cost "social housing" for people in need of a home. Any trading surplus is used to maintain existing housing and to help finance new homes. Although independent they are regulated by the state and commonly receive public funding. They are now the United Kingdom's major providers of new housing for rent, while many also run shared ownership schemes to help those who cannot afford to buy a home outright.

Housing associations provide a wide range of housing, some managing large estates of housing for families, while the smallest may perhaps manage a single scheme of housing for older people. Much of the supported accommodation in the UK is also provided by Housing Associations, with specialist projects for people with mental health or learning disabilities, with substance misuse problems (alcohol or illegal drugs), the formerly homeless, young people, ex-offenders and women fleeing domestic violence.

Paul Bates
Paul Bates
  • Paul Bates

I have no problem with social housing. I have no problem with someone having a 5 bedroom council house and being the only one in it, as long as they are paying for it. What I have a problem with is people claiming benefit for a 5 bedroom house when they only need two bedrooms and claiming they need the extra bedrooms for when friends and family come to visit. I work full time and I can't afford a house with 5 bedrooms so why should part of my salary go to pay for these people's luxury spare...

I have no problem with social housing. I have no problem with someone having a 5 bedroom council house and being the only one in it, as long as they are paying for it. What I have a problem with is people claiming benefit for a 5 bedroom house when they only need two bedrooms and claiming they need the extra bedrooms for when friends and family come to visit. I work full time and I can't afford a house with 5 bedrooms so why should part of my salary go to pay for these people's luxury spare rooms I would rather my hard earned cash go to those who really need it. This is the place to post my comments. I was asked to sign a petition and I a letting people know why they should not sign.

Paul Bates
Paul Bates
  • Paul Bates

Catherine Taylor, you are have been whittling on writing a 300 word essay about why some poor refugee should be put onto the street so poor 'British' people can have a home yet you fail to have understood one bit of my argument.

Becks Roan
Becks Roan

I gave up my spare room when my nephew came to live with me on a private arrangement kinship care basis. I get no help from social services despite having given up one of my two jobs to have him here. So if I'd moved to a three bedroom so I could still have friends or family I'd have been penalised once more. The way I see it my reward for not letting him go into the care system and costing the government more money is that I don't get to have sleepovers for me or my nephew.

Gareth Corris-Jones
Gareth Corris-Jones

The blame for the current social housing crisis can be laid Fairly & Squarely at the feet of Margaret Thatcher. She came up with the brilliant idea of "The Right to Buy", fair enough. But she totally messed it up for future generations by refusing to let Local Authorities re-invest the money into more housing.
Personally, I think she is no better than Dame Shirley Porter with her Ethnic Cleansing of Westminster Housing lists.

Nightshade Keez
Nightshade Keez

I have never ever heard anything SO RIDICULOUS! in all my life! nothing like lettting the rich get richer and the poor get poorer is there.utter muppets.couldn't run the proverbial p*ss up in a brewery!

Bernadette Skivington
Bernadette Skivington

why can we call for a early general election as we didn't vote them in the soon Scotland get independence the better what his he going to do with all the children that will have no house due to the bedroom tax as most of them have disabilities and need the other room.

Sharon Tandy
Sharon Tandy

I carnt believe your expecting us to pay for bedroom tax we are on low incomes in the first place and many claim houseing benefit as they carnt aford full rent.I work 16 hours a week have a 15 year old and 19 year old who has left home I'm in a small 3 bedroom house and expected to pay for a extra small bedroom. ther no 2 bedroom houses for us to move into even if they were I couldent afford to move.they say it lack off houses yet pensioners can stay in there 3 bedroom houses at no extra...

I carnt believe your expecting us to pay for bedroom tax we are on low incomes in the first place and many claim houseing benefit as they carnt aford full rent.I work 16 hours a week have a 15 year old and 19 year old who has left home I'm in a small 3 bedroom house and expected to pay for a extra small bedroom. ther no 2 bedroom houses for us to move into even if they were I couldent afford to move.they say it lack off houses yet pensioners can stay in there 3 bedroom houses at no extra cost they should but so should the rest off us that's are family home. its another way to make money off the poor the ones that need all the help they can get.

Maureen Larkin
Maureen Larkin

can everyone who voted david cameron into power sleep at night, I sincerely hope not and I hope what is doing ends up effecting you all in the worst possible way.

Sarah McCoy
Sarah McCoy

if a man is seperated from his ex.. they have a daughter.... Social services say.. need two rooms as your daughter can not stay in your room with you.. but government says.. cant have a two bedroom house becuase your a guy on your own during week? So Mr Cameron.. what do you say to all these men trying their bloody best to be a good dad? Take a lodger they are told.. that can help..... but with children? Would you Mr Cameron accept any stranger in your home with your children? Use the brain...

if a man is seperated from his ex.. they have a daughter.... Social services say.. need two rooms as your daughter can not stay in your room with you.. but government says.. cant have a two bedroom house becuase your a guy on your own during week? So Mr Cameron.. what do you say to all these men trying their bloody best to be a good dad? Take a lodger they are told.. that can help..... but with children? Would you Mr Cameron accept any stranger in your home with your children? Use the brain you was born with and sort the country out.. by stopping expenses.. making MP's own only ONE home per MP.. Stop Bankers and Mp's getting pay rises and stupid bonuses.. Take a year in OUR lives.. see if you can live on £55 per week? I don't think so.. do you?

Lisa Jonck
Lisa Jonck
  • Sarah McCoy

Bedroom tax only applies to people that have their rent paid for them in part or in full so get a job pay full rent and bedroom tax won't matter! Getting a lodger is sub letting, illegal as far as I'm aware! And I should be so lucky to have £55 in my pocket each week after paying my own rent and bills me and hubby both work and its still not easy but at least we are setting an example for our children.

Sarah McCoy
Sarah McCoy
  • Sarah McCoy

First off he did work from the age of 16 until he lost his job through the company going bust.. Secondly.. He needs a two bedroom due to his daughter.. He would gladly take a smaller house in order to pay for everything if he could. He got £55 BEFORE paying his rent.. his bills etc. Not having that after he has paid them. And Thirdly.. Since I posted this.. he has gotten a JOB, and still had to give up his flat cos now half his wages more or less goes to the mum. So yes He is working.. and...

First off he did work from the age of 16 until he lost his job through the company going bust.. Secondly.. He needs a two bedroom due to his daughter.. He would gladly take a smaller house in order to pay for everything if he could. He got £55 BEFORE paying his rent.. his bills etc. Not having that after he has paid them. And Thirdly.. Since I posted this.. he has gotten a JOB, and still had to give up his flat cos now half his wages more or less goes to the mum. So yes He is working.. and still he is shafted by fat cats who get bonuses more then what the average Joe earns in a year. Who also claim for a dinner that probably costs more then a months wage?

Davina Kennedy
Davina Kennedy

Might I remind you Mr Cameron, that council houses are issued to applicants who are successful in thier application. It is the council that provide 2,3,4, bedroom houses. There was no clause that stipulated that when you family grows up and moves out of the house that you have to pay additional costs that most tenants are already strugglingwith while on on benefits. Do not get me wrong, I do not support benefits cheats, but you are clearly trying to obtain funds that are not...

Might I remind you Mr Cameron, that council houses are issued to applicants who are successful in thier application. It is the council that provide 2,3,4, bedroom houses. There was no clause that stipulated that when you family grows up and moves out of the house that you have to pay additional costs that most tenants are already strugglingwith while on on benefits. Do not get me wrong, I do not support benefits cheats, but you are clearly trying to obtain funds that are not available. I believe you Mr Camerson and your cronies need to get a life check. Put yourselves in to this situation for six months not a week, you will be begging for your home comforts and allowances for travel and expensive restuarants.

Sarah Hawkins
Sarah Hawkins

If it's got a dining table in it it's a dining room = no tax

Amanda Panda Faulkner
Amanda Panda Faulkner
  • Sarah Hawkins

is that how people can get round it?

Laura Rumney
Laura Rumney
  • Sarah Hawkins

of course not, the number of bedrooms is stated on your tenacy agreement, but if a `bedroom` is less than 70 sq foot then it is not technically a bedroom

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