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Natalie Cunningham
Natalie Cunningham

I agree wit this charge.. People are seriously overcrowded or homeless and tax payers are paying housing benifit for empty rooms. STOP BEING SO SELFISH PEOPLE.

Karen Fitzpatrick
Karen Fitzpatrick
  • Natalie Cunningham

Also paying for people who don't work or can't afford the 3+ kids they keep having!! Don't lets forget that one.

Carol Fenton Morgan
Carol Fenton Morgan
  • Natalie Cunningham

i would agree with this policy if the government had first made sure ther was enough suitable smaller housing for these people to move to...but there isnt...and possible the ones offered would be ones where no one else would want to live...it may be a fair policy but only if implemented correctly and they should have sorted this all out before bringing it in...as for people in the private reenting sector only being allowed the space they need...what a load of rubbish.i have lived 11yrs next...

i would agree with this policy if the government had first made sure ther was enough suitable smaller housing for these people to move to...but there isnt...and possible the ones offered would be ones where no one else would want to live...it may be a fair policy but only if implemented correctly and they should have sorted this all out before bringing it in...as for people in the private reenting sector only being allowed the space they need...what a load of rubbish.i have lived 11yrs next to a woman on her own with 2 dogs and virtually never has anyone round or to stay and its got 2 bedrooms..and the government has been paying and still is....so this charge...not a tax should not have been brought in so quickly...

Lisa Campbell
Lisa Campbell

I don't agree with what is happening and hopefully they don't make you move at all(my mum is in this situation?) but why should 1 person be living in a 3bedroom house all by theirself. when there are families that need a 3bedroom house and are cramped in a 2 bedroom house?

Kelly Dougherty
Kelly Dougherty
  • Lisa Campbell

I agree Lisa xx

Lou Blanchard
Lou Blanchard
  • Lisa Campbell

i agree lisa , i live next doot to 2 old women who never have any1 visit let alone stay over , yet there houses are huge xxx

Rachael Walker
Rachael Walker
  • Lisa Campbell

I think it depends on the situation and the person , my sisters in a three on her own but one room used for grandchildren staying , I need a bigger three or four but it was my choice to have five children knowing I had no room i don't think anyone should be forced to pay or leave there homes for the likes of my needs , if its an elderly lady who maybe can't get upstairs then a bungalow should be offered , its horrible to think about all the stress its causeing x

Matthew Pich
Matthew Pich

Personally I agree with this legislation, we as a country should be proud of where we live, we should encourage the youth to seek employment and with this employment seek to better ourselves. And as my mother did! who is a single parent on minimum wage, own our own properties. You look to the government for assistance and assistance they give. it is not a right to EXPECT a property to be given to you just because you have alot of children or are not currently working. I have been employed...

Personally I agree with this legislation, we as a country should be proud of where we live, we should encourage the youth to seek employment and with this employment seek to better ourselves. And as my mother did! who is a single parent on minimum wage, own our own properties. You look to the government for assistance and assistance they give. it is not a right to EXPECT a property to be given to you just because you have alot of children or are not currently working. I have been employed since I was 16 and have only ever been out of work for a maximum of 6 months, I also know other people who will never work because they can't be bothered. I have so much respect for those people who hold down several jobs to support their families so they can give them the best start in life and not sit and complain about how hard done by they are by the government, when it is each individuals responsibility to ensure there own welfare.

Gemma Robinson
Gemma Robinson
  • Matthew Pich

Well said! x

Matthew Pich
Matthew Pich
  • Matthew Pich

Not heartless, sensible!!! Why should I and people I know work hard to pay for other people? We pay high taxes as it is and its time that we stopped giving to those who just take and don’t give anything back. If you have a spare room then yes you should give it to somebody who needs it. I don’t however agree with giving it to foreign nationals regardless of the reason they are in this country and how many children they have, we should look after our own first.

If those people, who are in...

Not heartless, sensible!!! Why should I and people I know work hard to pay for other people? We pay high taxes as it is and its time that we stopped giving to those who just take and don’t give anything back. If you have a spare room then yes you should give it to somebody who needs it. I don’t however agree with giving it to foreign nationals regardless of the reason they are in this country and how many children they have, we should look after our own first.

If those people, who are in housing, are not working why not attempt to get qualifications and become employable. This is quite easily achievable with support such as EMA (For under 20’s any circs), Childcare grants, parents learning allowance, adult learning allowance and other support funds (http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/extra-help-for-students-with-children) , also when it comes to work, these are the stats:
• The employment rate for those aged from 16 to 64 for October to December 2012 was 71.5%, up 0.3 percentage points from July to September 2012. There were 29.73 million people in employment aged 16 and over, up 154,000 from July to September 2012.
• The unemployment rate for October to December 2012 was 7.8% of the economically active population, down 0.1 percentage points from July to September 2012. There were 2.50 million unemployed people, down 14,000 from July to September 2012.
• The inactivity rate for those aged from 16 to 64 for October to December 2012 was 22.3%, down 0.2 percentage points from July to September 2012. There were 8.98 million economically inactive people aged from 16 to 64, down 94,000 from July to September 2012.

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/lms/labour-market-statistics/february-2013/index.html

The vast majority of the population are employed and don’t live life to the budget you mentioned but get a healthy wage that allows them to live life comfortably.
£21bn spent on housing benefit and yet 2.5 Million unemployed, this means that if each of these people claim housing benefit, they are costing the tax payer £8400 per person. This comes out of our wages, council tax and all the other taxes we have to pay. And you’re wrong about large sections of the population been unable to afford their rent. 6 million people live in supported housing that leaves just over 24 million who don’t. but they are been hit by the economic down turn in different ways, so why should this not hit everyone! Why should people who claim dole and live in properties they think they have an inherent right to live in, even though the property is owned by the local council not also feel the pinch and have to tighten their belts the same as others (Highest levels of alcohol and drugs abuse are found in housing supported areas) – they claim they can’t afford to live yet this is still true.

Private landlords own their properties and this means that as such they can dictate what they want for people to live in THEIR properties. That is their right as they have bought it. I do however agree that a cap should be put on some properties such as student housing as a landlord can charge prices for rooms that some whole houses cost which I see as exploitation. Shelter is massively biased as their main focus is to help those that need support and housing, you can’t say that people live in cramp conditions, what are they using as a comparison???? In many middle eastern and eastern European countries their culture dictates that they live with several generations in their homes, and as we have had a large influx of foreign nationals this may be one contributing factor, another may be that we have seen a population increase and a small baby boom, this I also contribute to unemployment levels and a mentality of well, if I have another child, I’ll get more money.

Matthew Pich
Matthew Pich
  • Matthew Pich

Catherine Taylor How can you say we need more housing, our main focus needs to be to stop lending to foreign banks, allow the young to achieve a high level of education, create a skilled workforce, stop immigration, stabilise the economy through work initiatives and create a stable economy through a balance of steady lending and purchasing.
Affinity Sutton is a housing organisation that specialises in the private lettings and sales, I can’t find the report you mentioned but as I live in the...

Catherine Taylor How can you say we need more housing, our main focus needs to be to stop lending to foreign banks, allow the young to achieve a high level of education, create a skilled workforce, stop immigration, stabilise the economy through work initiatives and create a stable economy through a balance of steady lending and purchasing.
Affinity Sutton is a housing organisation that specialises in the private lettings and sales, I can’t find the report you mentioned but as I live in the North west I am fully aware of the housing situation and I can easily provide the details of several letting agents who have countless single bedroom or studio apartments that are more than affordable for those who wish to live in them, this is not the problem, people feel that because they already live in these homes they shouldn’t be forced out, but it does not belong to them, they need to make room for those who have larger families so that the government can quash the swell of larger families who have requested more room through government initiatives, this whole situation is a double ended sword, you say they shouldn’t be moved, but what about the families that will be moved into these properties, where should they go?? And you talk about building more housing but where then is the funding for these projects to come from? I know as a tax payer I am not footing that bill, I pay enough and its time people stood up and said NO , I have a family and they come first, not others whether they are worse off than me or not.

I would like to know how a housing project would stimulate growth in the economy, if anything we would see a loss, more people moving into lower end accommodation, where they pay the bare minimum to live, people get comfortable there’s no incentive for them to go out and work. If you force them out, you force them to search for another way to live, a couple on this morning were a prime example of what is wrong with this country, people have been given too much and its about time a government stood up and said enough is enough. ”If you want something, then work for it”.

Also you cannot say such crippling financial pain, most of the people that live in the council houses with more rooms were given them in the 70’s or 80’s when, perhaps they had small children, yes now they will have grandchildren, but they will at some time in their lives been given the option to buy as many did, and if they didn’t then that’s their problem for not having the hindsight to see that purchasing would be better in the long run, I will say however that some individual circumstances should be taken into account, I heard a story of a family who had a son in the army, now in this case they should not be forced to move but then that brings up a moral issue. How do you decide who stays and who moves? And who would decide that? It just makes it easier if you treat everybody the same and without bias.
If a family has been forced out of their homes due to losing their jobs and financial issues, obviously this is unfortunate but these are the type of people that will be moving into the properties that you don’t want people to move out of, so you have contradicted yourself??? And with the mansion tax, this is fair enough these people have money and can afford to pay this tax, but how is it fair if you come from a working class background and achieve something with your life through hard work and determination and then have to pay large taxes to pay for those who are bone idle??? This is not fair!!!!!

You say 2 thirds are sick or disabled but I have family that work for the DWP and I am fully aware of the types of disabilities you are able to claim for which in essence dirties that fact, many can be minor and many people exploit this so they don’t have to work and get housing. For those who have carers and specially adapted rooms, if they have somebody who lives with them, which most have dedicated carers, then this will not affect them.

Matthew Pich
Matthew Pich
  • Matthew Pich

Catherine Taylor I understand that there are a lot of people who have their own sad stories, but given a chance everybody will find an excuse not to leave (What they believe to be) their homes, this needs to be done and it doesn’t matter how much you kick and scream, this country is in a bad way and concessions need to be made, every class, every creed, colour and back ground needs to make allowances for what the economic downturn has brought. You refer to supply rarely matches demand as...

Catherine Taylor I understand that there are a lot of people who have their own sad stories, but given a chance everybody will find an excuse not to leave (What they believe to be) their homes, this needs to be done and it doesn’t matter how much you kick and scream, this country is in a bad way and concessions need to be made, every class, every creed, colour and back ground needs to make allowances for what the economic downturn has brought. You refer to supply rarely matches demand as somebody with a business background this is not new, you can read as much as you want into each report but this for them; is exposure for their company and attracts new custom which is a wise move, as they are aware that this new legislation is going to force people to search for new properties.

The welfare state was a terrible idea, it allows people to become dependent on the state, it makes people lazy and not want to achieve. Also it was brought in by a different government in a different time, you can’t compare the current state of the nation to that of the 60’s, people have changed and so has this country. We have equality of opportunity as people can IF THEY WANT do what they want with their lives, but this should not mean relying on the government. Also it was never equal distribution of wealth, this is communism that your thinking of and of course we all saw how that worked out.

Personally I think you are unrealistic as you clearly can’t see a bigger picture for the country, it takes hard people to run a country and it takes even harder decisions, you cannot make everybody happy and if you make a small percentage of the population unhappy, which is what you represent then that’s what it takes.

I will never sign this petition, you have 100,000 signatures and I think I just proved my point above.

Matthew Pich
Matthew Pich
  • Matthew Pich

Catherine Taylor Its very rude calling people ignorant when in fact there is more to this argument than YOU make out. its not as black and white as people are been relocated NOT HOMELESS. and yes they have perhaps had these homes for a long time, but it was never theirs and they've had cheap rent!!! also never in any contract that i am aware of did it state these were their homes for life!!

Linda White
Linda White

We fought 2 world wars not to have to live in a' Nazi run way' in this country all those people that died to save us from that for us to have to now live being told what to do, where to live how to live, how far we have to travel as a limit for work, how many children we can have and what age we have to stop being parents to our children so god knows who or what street ends being the caretaker of the children we are meant to be responsible, Mums ain't even allowed to be mums and have the...

We fought 2 world wars not to have to live in a' Nazi run way' in this country all those people that died to save us from that for us to have to now live being told what to do, where to live how to live, how far we have to travel as a limit for work, how many children we can have and what age we have to stop being parents to our children so god knows who or what street ends being the caretaker of the children we are meant to be responsible, Mums ain't even allowed to be mums and have the job of parenthood till they are old enough to fend for themselves , even told where we can smoke and how we can disapline our children....Sounds like a Nazi Goverment to me My family that died for this life would be turning in their graves to know they died in vain so we could have this life instead! its a bloody joke!

Laurie Dishman
Laurie Dishman
  • Linda White

how long before we are all put on goods train carriages and sent off never to be seen again. Comandant cameron and his bunch of nazi bastards dont give a ***k about us. Thatcher destroyed the working class and look what has happened now she dead. Your turn will come one day cameron.

Marie Reade
Marie Reade

this government really has no regard for family life or its disabled people! get this goverment out!

Debbie Owen Holland
Debbie Owen Holland
  • Marie Reade

Can't wait for next election. Labour all the way x

Marie Reade
Marie Reade
  • Marie Reade

labour has no back bone anymore ukip for me this time

Lainy Farmer
Lainy Farmer

in my case, I need the "spare" bedroom (barely big enough for a cot, chair and maybe a little chest of drawers) as I am on life support, ie home dialysis - when I get monthly deliveries of the necessary supplies, I can hardly move in there! In my last place, I had fortnightly deliveries, and STILL had boxes piled up in my bedroom, the hall AND living room - I moved here so I'd have dedicated space, AND halve the delivery cost to the NHS. (If family or friends stay over, they have to sleep in the living room!)

Lainy Farmer
Lainy Farmer
  • Lainy Farmer

I have NOT sent "invites" out to sign on to other people's pages - but if anyone wants to sign this petition, JUST CLICK ON THE LINK

Lainy Farmer
Lainy Farmer
  • Lainy Farmer

nevertheless - odds are, there probably ARE people on home dialysis (and/or with other medical needs), of working age, in social housing - who need that extra bedroom for medical aids, or carers

Lorraine Davie
Lorraine Davie

With regards to this I am in agreement with the goverment the goverment are not saying you must vacate your property they are simply saying they will only give money for really what your entitled to, i have witnessed in my own street single people with 3 bedded properties so if these persons want a big property but do not really require this then its more a factor of want more than need, I myself at one point was a single parent in private rent working full time paying £400 per month rent...

With regards to this I am in agreement with the goverment the goverment are not saying you must vacate your property they are simply saying they will only give money for really what your entitled to, i have witnessed in my own street single people with 3 bedded properties so if these persons want a big property but do not really require this then its more a factor of want more than need, I myself at one point was a single parent in private rent working full time paying £400 per month rent with no help from housing benefit and I had to do so I can't see why we are putting up so much objections there will be people who feel it is unfair but perhaps if the income support rule was to change this would cause alot more anger as at the minute single claimants can claim until a child is seven meaning they are not surged to work or go to the jobcentre if this ruling changes which I am sure it will there will be alot more than bedroom tax to be discussed, we should be gratefull we get any sort of help.

H Ross Anderson
H Ross Anderson
  • Lorraine Davie

Why do you think these people are living in the bigger properties in the first place? Councils don't put single folks into 3 bed houses if smaller ones available. Small single bed houses are not thick on the ground.

Lorraine Davie
Lorraine Davie
  • Lorraine Davie

Sorry but I can see this is an issue however the website homeswapper shows me there is one bedded properties it just may not be in the area the applicant is wanting most individuals on this website are wanting to get an increase in property size so I cannot understand if people feel so at theat of being evicted how there is not an overload of properties on homeswapper looking to downsize .

Adam Day
Adam Day

Have you all forgot about the poor family's who have 3+ kids and are crammed into a 2 bed house because there's people living on there own in 3 or 4 bed houses and wont move to a 1 bed. so the struggling family's have to suffer do they? I know people in this situation and it makes me sick that single people are being greedy with 4 beds wasted while family's have to struggle. I know young family's who struggle like this(i was one of them).so if you don't want to pay, get a house that has the...

Have you all forgot about the poor family's who have 3+ kids and are crammed into a 2 bed house because there's people living on there own in 3 or 4 bed houses and wont move to a 1 bed. so the struggling family's have to suffer do they? I know people in this situation and it makes me sick that single people are being greedy with 4 beds wasted while family's have to struggle. I know young family's who struggle like this(i was one of them).so if you don't want to pay, get a house that has the rooms to suit you and it wont cost u ewt will it. and it will go along way to helping the housing shortage wont it. go on D.C your doin a good deed there, screw the greedy gits who want it all handed on a plate your helpin those who need it with this one.

Catherine Baker
Catherine Baker
  • Adam Day

Apparently on January 1st 2014 the UK will open its door 2 unlimited numbers of people from Romania & Bulgaria, 29million people will be entitled to come here.....not just 2 work, but 2 take advantage of our benefits, housing, schools & health services, almost half of them live in poverty, so where would u go if u were them, that's right here in good old britain, I mean as if we don't already have enuf here already, don't get me wrong, I am all 4 helping those in need, but there's a limit 2...

Apparently on January 1st 2014 the UK will open its door 2 unlimited numbers of people from Romania & Bulgaria, 29million people will be entitled to come here.....not just 2 work, but 2 take advantage of our benefits, housing, schools & health services, almost half of them live in poverty, so where would u go if u were them, that's right here in good old britain, I mean as if we don't already have enuf here already, don't get me wrong, I am all 4 helping those in need, but there's a limit 2 everything, our own already here are being stripped of everything as it is, this is a big world & they can't all possibly fit into the UK, we will become beggars in our own country because they will have it all, takes the piss it really does!.... But i guess that's ok is it?, no-one would be going through this if they never let the amount of people they have into this country over the past 20yrs, we are a small minority in our own country, so who do you think is draining the benefit system then & taking all the homes then? And by the way, lots of people have been paying their full rent for years, but may have lost their jobs, or become to sick to work, or are disabled, its not just a one way story here that you have been brainwashed to believe, there is more to this than meets the eye, by the way this is a petition against these taxes, not a petition in support of it, your on the wrong place to voice that opinion dont you think? Makes me sick also that people just think about themself's to, many people have been through harder times than you & still are, and DC is not helping anyone, just shifting the goverments mess ups & responsibity's for failing to provide homes for a growing population, at the end of the day, if you are going to let thousands/millions into this country, then don't give them the homes that are rightfully the British, then people like you would not be suffering whilst half of the EU are living better lifes than us, people have a right to a family life & not everyone has empty rooms that they are not using or need, and there are not enough single property's, so its not viable all together, but guess its ok for people to live in cardboard boxes to make room for you, at least you got a roof over your head, unlike many, & maybe you should not have had so many kids if you were not n position to accomadate them, guess you will say you have the right to have as many as you like, well so do other people have the right to continue with their family life's ie: have grankids to stay, other members of the family, kids that have left & live miles away but want to spend some quality time with their parents, or diasbled people who need an extra room for carers!

Laura Rumney
Laura Rumney
  • Adam Day

I agree that single people or couples should not be occupying a 3 or 4 bed `social`house, the problem is that there are not enough 1 bed places for them to move to. This is not a government exercise in fairness, it`s all about them saving money by cutting housing benefit, the government know it`s impossible for most social housing tennents to downsize, they don`t really want them to downsize, the fewer that can, the more money the government saves.
Have you not noticed they aren`t asking...

I agree that single people or couples should not be occupying a 3 or 4 bed `social`house, the problem is that there are not enough 1 bed places for them to move to. This is not a government exercise in fairness, it`s all about them saving money by cutting housing benefit, the government know it`s impossible for most social housing tennents to downsize, they don`t really want them to downsize, the fewer that can, the more money the government saves.
Have you not noticed they aren`t asking single people or couples in social housing who are lucky enough to be employed & earning enough not to be in receipt of housing benefit to give up their large houses to someone who is overcrowded, that wouldn`t bring in any revenue. Neither are they cutting housing benefit for pesioners living in 3 bed or more houses, at least not yet, pensioners are more the Tory`s main voters
People shuffling around to either a smaller or larger propery is not going to shorten the waiting list for social housing, it will not create more houses.

Derek Condon
Derek Condon

I am currently about to be forced to accept paying for demolition of my own structurally sound home as a direct result of government "policy". I too have a "spare" bedroom and will most likely be penalised for it. Cameron and his cohorts are trying to put the blame for this deliberately planned recession onto those least able to defend themselves and the BEDROOM TAX iis just another part of their deceitful "game". Due to my recent and long term fight to keep my home from being demolished...

I am currently about to be forced to accept paying for demolition of my own structurally sound home as a direct result of government "policy". I too have a "spare" bedroom and will most likely be penalised for it. Cameron and his cohorts are trying to put the blame for this deliberately planned recession onto those least able to defend themselves and the BEDROOM TAX iis just another part of their deceitful "game". Due to my recent and long term fight to keep my home from being demolished to make way for new Rabbit hutch sized so-called "alternative" shared equity (make that FORCED shared equity), I have considerable insight into this nonsense from our political dictators.

Housing associations are not building many single bedroom homes if any at all (other than student “hutches“ of course at some UNI’s etc), so the question has to be; move to which one apartment alternative accommodation to avoid this ridiculous Tax; how can that even be possible especially when the morons are not building any in the first place?

Where I currently live the Housing association imposed upon us as factors are forcing demolition of 566 structurally sound flats to be replaced with only 444 alternative minimal sized shared equity scam replacements. So they are about to reduce the number of flats available by 122 while effectively forcing us to accept minimal prices for our homes to make profit for a so-called “not for profit” company with full Government backing.

The ConDems are in the process of privatising the entire “social Housing” sector. I can prove deliberate fraud on the part of the Housing association involved in my own case, not to mention the some of the Government “executive agencies” who are also “involved”. Government policy has placed these despots effectively above the law! Guess what? Our MPs/MSPs local councillors etc are all complicit, either through their blind support of these policies or their ABSOLUTE FAILURE to properly investigate the considerable written evidence I have already provided them with which prove this blatant fraud. Now the scum want to tax us for living in 2 apartment flats. I would really like to get my hands on Cameron and his pals for a while to teach them a lesson they would never forget!

Fred Phd Planethappydesigns
Fred Phd Planethappydesigns
  • Derek Condon

Sorry to hear about this Derek...spreading the word about the petition. x

Fred Phd Planethappydesigns
Fred Phd Planethappydesigns
  • Derek Condon

Signed and shared.

Maureen Minshaw
Maureen Minshaw

why should we av to pay extra money when we already pay rent my rent is £71 already how much more money do they want rent is going up again in april at this rate we will be giving them the houses back because we carnt aford to live in them.

Lorna Keggans Gregg
Lorna Keggans Gregg
  • Maureen Minshaw

i would love to pay £71 a week in rent but cant as i cannot get a council house so pay over the odds for a house which means i cannot save enough for a deposit to buy my own house. Why am i being penalised?

Dawn Moore
Dawn Moore
  • Maureen Minshaw

If you pay your own rent you wont be affected. It is only those claiming Housing Benefit that will find they won't get all their rent paid if they have too many bedrooms for their needs/

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