Jo Jay
Jo Jay

I agree with bedroom tax if you have more rooms that you don't need and you don't pay your own rent then yes you should pay for your extra rooms people on benefits get so much its about time they payed something back or if they don't wont to pay for the extra rooms then move them out to somewhere that is the write size

Derek Slinn
Derek Slinn
  • Jo Jay

you are incorrect people on benefit do not get things you all seem to think we get free stuff we have to pay for it Moore so if you are on disability . i spent nine years in the army, i fort in the fork-lands, worked down the pit, was a government diplomatic protection officer. searched for explosives until i was blown up , tortured in for two weeks in a sensitive country. and every day i have to beg for help. i have to have care every day. but i am still house bound because i cannot get...

you are incorrect people on benefit do not get things you all seem to think we get free stuff we have to pay for it Moore so if you are on disability . i spent nine years in the army, i fort in the fork-lands, worked down the pit, was a government diplomatic protection officer. searched for explosives until i was blown up , tortured in for two weeks in a sensitive country. and every day i have to beg for help. i have to have care every day. but i am still house bound because i cannot get the help from someone to push be in the wheel chair because so much as been taken away. even the Christmas bonus as gone this year. i need extra heat within my home because of my condition, the if you are pension age you get over £300 a year to help for heating. the disabled do not, if a disabled needs a mobility scooter or a disabled care you pay for it out of your benefit its not extra or free. my second bedroom i need for care help to sleep but i know have to pay

Patricia Johnson
Patricia Johnson
  • Jo Jay

Moron

Catherine Wild
Catherine Wild

I have lived in my house for 9 yrs now and have no intensions of leaving they will have to drag me out by the scruff of my hair, I'm having nightmares about it, I am so happy here it's not right, my grandchildren come to stay every weekend, people are going to lose their homes because they will not be able to afford it, what is it something like 25% of your income for each room, then all you have left is enough to buy £10 electric, £10 gas and prob get a tenners worth of food to last you two...

I have lived in my house for 9 yrs now and have no intensions of leaving they will have to drag me out by the scruff of my hair, I'm having nightmares about it, I am so happy here it's not right, my grandchildren come to stay every weekend, people are going to lose their homes because they will not be able to afford it, what is it something like 25% of your income for each room, then all you have left is enough to buy £10 electric, £10 gas and prob get a tenners worth of food to last you two weeks, totally don't think so. I will stand my ground..WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED....

Jean Rowland
Jean Rowland
  • Catherine Wild

Well said Catherine I am also having nightmares and have been on anti depressants for some time because of this and other measures, I was working up until last year am nearly 60 and like you my grandchildren and children come here and help me as I am arthitic We Have To All Stand Together:)

Barbara Dawn
Barbara Dawn
  • Catherine Wild

just to clarify this- its 14% duduction in your housing benefit if you have one spare bed room and 25% REDUCTION if you have more than one spare room- so for example , you receive £100 per week now for a three bed property, but only need one bed, u will lose £25. if you need two beds you will lose £14. hence- u can see that those who may be single and unemplyed (lots of older middle aged with grown up families will fall into this category) and you live on £71 JSA, you will bepaying between...

just to clarify this- its 14% duduction in your housing benefit if you have one spare bed room and 25% REDUCTION if you have more than one spare room- so for example , you receive £100 per week now for a three bed property, but only need one bed, u will lose £25. if you need two beds you will lose £14. hence- u can see that those who may be single and unemplyed (lots of older middle aged with grown up families will fall into this category) and you live on £71 JSA, you will bepaying between £14 and £25 (in this scenario) towards your rent. uthority for discretionary housing payments- but this pot of money allocated by the government is controlled by each local authority and they make their own rules up about who is eligible for it and who isnt!
Not much left for food (proces on the increase again) extortionate gas/elec/water prices etc, and god forbis you might still need to run a car (for job interviews, possibilities etc) cameron and his cronies need a wake up call- I can totally see the reasoning behind these ideas, but they have not thought about the consequences of this- homelessness/ increased poverty/increased risk of crime etc - not really going to solve any financial crisis in this country is it?

Celine Wathier
Celine Wathier
  • Catherine Wild

Building more social housings means destroying green belts, parks, school sport grounds, etc.........all those spaces we should all fight for to save for our children or future ! Too many children already have nowhere to go to , to play in, to do....
Refurbishing derelict properties cost money which the government has not got ! It is already struggling to keep occupied properties into decent homes standard !
Blaming the government for everything is not helping !
It is selfishness, self...

Building more social housings means destroying green belts, parks, school sport grounds, etc.........all those spaces we should all fight for to save for our children or future ! Too many children already have nowhere to go to , to play in, to do....
Refurbishing derelict properties cost money which the government has not got ! It is already struggling to keep occupied properties into decent homes standard !
Blaming the government for everything is not helping !
It is selfishness, self righteous attitude which cause shortage of housing !
A property is yours to do what you want with and as you wish only if it is rightfully yours. Council flats are government properties and if it decides that it hasn't got the finance nor the resource to build or refurbish more properties, then it has every right to reclaim empty rooms or ask for money from its tenants wishing to keep the luxury of extra rooms while preventing other families in need of affordable accommodations.
Your selfishness is resulting in overcrowding houses, stress, depression, violence,....... the children are the ones suffering !
ISN'T IT TIME TO START THINKING ABOUT OTHER CHILDREN AND SUFFERING FAMILIES !
BUT I FORGET IT IS ALL ABOUT YOU PEOPLE AND WHAT YOU WANT !
AND WHAT IF IT WAS YOUR FAMILY 20, 30, 40, 50,........YEARS AGO !?!

Billy Hogan
Billy Hogan
  • Catherine Wild

It is a bigger problem that the government is "overcrowding" the country, in my area alone I struggle to hear a local accent, or even an English one. most of the small shops are "fly by nights" today Polish, tomorrow African, the day after another Eastern European national. It looks to me like the government or some powers that be, are giving out grants to Immigrants to start up business, they last max 3mths then close, and don't get me started on the houses..8-9-10 children per family,...

It is a bigger problem that the government is "overcrowding" the country, in my area alone I struggle to hear a local accent, or even an English one. most of the small shops are "fly by nights" today Polish, tomorrow African, the day after another Eastern European national. It looks to me like the government or some powers that be, are giving out grants to Immigrants to start up business, they last max 3mths then close, and don't get me started on the houses..8-9-10 children per family, mothers look about 18yrs old, we all know about the scam of groups taking the same children to the DWP like pass the parcel, and making a claim for child benefits for them, when they are queried..no speak english...jokes

Candy Jane Weston
Candy Jane Weston
  • Catherine Wild

in responce to Celine Smith-ish u do make a valid point about over crowding but there are many factors to this argument heres just one of them
this policy only affects those people who claim HOUSEING BENIFIT lets say i am a single person but live in a 3 bed house therefore have 2 spare rooms but because i work and pay my rent im allowed to stay in my council home with no consiquences please tell me how that is fair ????? i feel this policy should apply to everyone who resides in social...

in responce to Celine Smith-ish u do make a valid point about over crowding but there are many factors to this argument heres just one of them
this policy only affects those people who claim HOUSEING BENIFIT lets say i am a single person but live in a 3 bed house therefore have 2 spare rooms but because i work and pay my rent im allowed to stay in my council home with no consiquences please tell me how that is fair ????? i feel this policy should apply to everyone who resides in social housing not just a select few.
all this policy is doing is creating more over crowding because it doesnt take account for personal surcumstances such as divided familys with a father or grandparents having access to his/ their children on over night stays on weekends and school holidays.
so please tell me where it is selfish to want to retain a spare room for these reasons ?

Jane Mcewan
Jane Mcewan
  • Catherine Wild

We all have our opinions, each 1 as important as the other. It's pathetic it has came to this. It's the council that housed us in the first place, we pay our rent etc all our days & they decide to pull it out from under us. They should never have sold the council accommodation on. They were built for renting out to the people who could not afford to buy.
There is also a new way of how benefits will be paid. I|E Housing benefit will now be paid to the tennant & the tennant has to pay the...

We all have our opinions, each 1 as important as the other. It's pathetic it has came to this. It's the council that housed us in the first place, we pay our rent etc all our days & they decide to pull it out from under us. They should never have sold the council accommodation on. They were built for renting out to the people who could not afford to buy.
There is also a new way of how benefits will be paid. I|E Housing benefit will now be paid to the tennant & the tennant has to pay the landlord (cutting out the middle man). This is a recipe for disaster as far as i am concerned.

Stephen Brown
Stephen Brown
  • Catherine Wild

Barbara Dawn no offence but I think everybody is aware of what we have to pay as we, ve all recieved letters telling us how much worse off were going to be... so no clarification needed!!

Frances Young
Frances Young
  • Catherine Wild

Stop having children then

Rebecca Westlake Yearsley
Rebecca Westlake Yearsley
  • Catherine Wild

Candy Jane Weston buy your own house or private rent then you can have as many bedroom as you want

Christine Shentall Ne Burton

I think it is wrong we carnt get a bloody job and carnt really aford to live why do, s this government want to give money away and not look after there own.... they r blood suckin assholes, thats my opinion....

Ian Anderson
Ian Anderson
  • Christine Shentall Ne Burton

The government are quite happy to stick 6 billion£s a year into a country that has a nuclear program and a space program and have taken 10s of thousands of jobs out of the UK,And are Quite happy to crippple financialey the people who are most vulnarable in our own country.!!!!!(C---S!.

Mark Gray
Mark Gray
  • Christine Shentall Ne Burton

Ian Anderson thats how much they want to fuck us.Like they hate their own people. They LOVE foreigners though.So much so they shower them with all our hard earned cash and resources FOR NOTHING.AND OUR JOBS.AND NOW our HOMES are required.. bastards are goin toooo far.GRRR

Lenora Wilmot
Lenora Wilmot
  • Christine Shentall Ne Burton

their savin up to build a train track for a fast train lol while everyone who cant afford to live suffers

Hedra Hornby
Hedra Hornby
  • Christine Shentall Ne Burton

financially vulnerable

James Mcindoe
James Mcindoe
  • Christine Shentall Ne Burton

who is this train for. think about it. its not for you or me i will be dead by the time its built why do i need it. if the govneed it fund it from there expens acounts not ours,

Rebecca Westlake Yearsley
Rebecca Westlake Yearsley
  • Christine Shentall Ne Burton

there are jobs out there they may not be your ideal job but they are there. i have a full time job and a casual one so get off your ass and get a job pay your own way and you can have as many bedrooms as you want

Dennis Smalley
Dennis Smalley
  • Christine Shentall Ne Burton

we cant afford the train tickets either
only for posh people

Richard Hessey
Richard Hessey
  • Christine Shentall Ne Burton

We havent even got enough land area to have a train system that fast unless very few stops & that reduces passengers It's a white elephant while ppl in need suffer.

David Miller
David Miller
  • Christine Shentall Ne Burton

a fast train back to the 1800 when there was poor house for the poor and workhouse too

Roseann Sandison
Roseann Sandison

we only have a housing shortage because they keep giving the houses to all the imigrants that land on our shores and expect to be housed here almost as soon as they land. this country is just a shambles. I was once proud to be called british, I am all for equallity, but when our own people have to suffer by having to give up a bigger house to accomodate an imigrant family with 4 or 5 children, time to call a halt.as some of your comments say, we all have family, who sometimes for one reason...

we only have a housing shortage because they keep giving the houses to all the imigrants that land on our shores and expect to be housed here almost as soon as they land. this country is just a shambles. I was once proud to be called british, I am all for equallity, but when our own people have to suffer by having to give up a bigger house to accomodate an imigrant family with 4 or 5 children, time to call a halt.as some of your comments say, we all have family, who sometimes for one reason or another have to stay with parents or grandparents for a time, how can we do this if wee only have a one bedroom property.time to take stock government.

Lorna Taylor
Lorna Taylor
  • Roseann Sandison

Yes and a lot of these people are here illegally because immigration failed to do their jobs properly for 2 years or so!!! Doesn't happen with Australia,I've seen that programme Nothing to declare!!!!

Nathalie Genevieve
Nathalie Genevieve
  • Roseann Sandison

Nothing to declare is a racist, program in which the real immigrants 'who are white, Europeans calling themselves Australian' target all non whites trying to enter the country. Captain Cook arriving in Australia signified the genocide of hundreds of aborigine tribes, millions of indiginous aboriginie's were killed and murdered when the european settlers arrived in Australia so please take a moment to appreciate the history before making these comments. Additionally people that arrive in the...

Nothing to declare is a racist, program in which the real immigrants 'who are white, Europeans calling themselves Australian' target all non whites trying to enter the country. Captain Cook arriving in Australia signified the genocide of hundreds of aborigine tribes, millions of indiginous aboriginie's were killed and murdered when the european settlers arrived in Australia so please take a moment to appreciate the history before making these comments. Additionally people that arrive in the UK are often coming from countries that were colonies of Britain, part of the 'great' empire or are in tatters because of wars that have been waged by our very own soldiers. Migration is complex, as is European history, please bare that in mind. Peace & Love

Vivien Everiss
Vivien Everiss
  • Roseann Sandison

Roseann Sandison, You cou not be more right!!!!!! Natalie Genevieve they maybe immigrants entering Australia.....but you have to have a money to enter to finance yourself you must be able to put a roof over your head a job to go to etc etc THEY ALL COME HERE BECAUSE IT'S FREEEEEE

Vivien Everiss
Vivien Everiss
  • Roseann Sandison

So does this mean my daughter will get housed now coz she has been on the Council waiting list and bidding on the "LOCATA for EIGHT YEARS" My daughter has also been told by the council she won't get housed because she's band D. Yet the 2 bed property opposite me has been empty for six weeks the tenants that were in there had three boys they were given a FOUR BED HOUSE how right is that???... three bed to the rear of my property been empty since last October, and 2 months or so before this...

So does this mean my daughter will get housed now coz she has been on the Council waiting list and bidding on the "LOCATA for EIGHT YEARS" My daughter has also been told by the council she won't get housed because she's band D. Yet the 2 bed property opposite me has been empty for six weeks the tenants that were in there had three boys they were given a FOUR BED HOUSE how right is that???... three bed to the rear of my property been empty since last October, and 2 months or so before this Government was voted into Parliment 5 properties that had been empty for months down my street one of which had to be refurbished because it had been empty for so long - all let just before the election and all let to foreigners. I'd have the two bed opposite me and then my daughter and family could have my house, to me problem solved. Also where are all the Romanians and the rest of Europe going to be housed when they arrive here in their droves??????? coz Romanians age for consent is 14/15 years old, so what are we going to get arrive here, untold teenage mothers who need housing and bring the family too. Oh of course...... that's why we are having to give up our properties, Please be advised at the rate this country is going no matter who is Government each party blames the other for whatever, but you watch for all of us 50ish plus years olds or older we will not only loose our homes...the time will come when we will have to pay for the NHS, their will be no age for retiring, basically work till you drop dead, EDUCATION won't be free it will have to be paid for from day one........Yes I am on Housing Benefit, due to an accident on route to the Jobcentre after being made redundant for the "third time". It's funny coz whilst I was paying full rent and council tax when working It was ok that I lived here even though I could have claimed Housing Benefit as I was on a low income but I didn't....I intend to get a job....but whilst being housebound how funny is this, I have been looking at council properties and the rent on some are more than what I pay now, why would anyone with half a brain loose a bedroom or even two bedrooms and pay more rent???...

my friend won't get housed in the eyes of the council as they said she made herself homeless, has a 16 year old daughter she left a violent husband after years of violence both my friend and daughter are now in B&B and have been for six months she is 57years old born here lived here and worked here all her life. Another family arrived at the B&B, mother, 4yr old boy and a 7yr old girl, they had left their country for whatever reason so Council put her in the B&B, but she was only in the B&B for three weeks, she now lives in BRAND NEW three bed house, on the day she moved from the B&B guess who turns up the husband that she was supposedly not to be with, so they all live here in a nice new three bed house claiming benefits ..............AND REMEMBER SHE MADE HERSELF HOMELESS,
So it's ok if you arrive in this country with no home no job no food, because Government gives all away...........

REMEMBER THIS our Fathers and those before them fought for this country, fought so WE could have a better future so we could give our children and our grandchildren a better future ....,EDUCATION NHS JOBS HOMES PENSIONS the list is endless.....and what for......... like so many others, I know fear for my children and even more so my Grandchildren, who come to my house because they can just get a bunk bed in their bedroom...what does the future hold for them.............
I WILL NOT BE BULLIED INTO LEAVING MY HOME,AND WE SHOULD ALL STAND UNITED AND....................CLOSE ALL THE BORDERS INTO
GREAT BRITAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maureen McManus
Maureen McManus
  • Roseann Sandison

Nathalie Genevieve .. Doesn't alter the fact that they are taking food out of peoples mouth with this ridiculous tax

Eric Pierce
Eric Pierce
  • Roseann Sandison

Why doesnt the Govt do something useful like preventing immigrants and overseas business people from buying homes here? We have a housing shortage yet they are still allowed to buy them. By increasing demand it inflates house prices so they become unaffordable to British homeowners. Instead the Govt tax people on the number of bedrooms they have. Morons.

Hedra Hornby
Hedra Hornby
  • Roseann Sandison

Nathalie Genevieve Captain Cook was murdered by those people. Colonies in tatters because of wars? You are spouting rubbish.

Lorna Taylor
Lorna Taylor
  • Roseann Sandison

Nathalie Genevieve I am fully aware that Australia was used as a British penal colony!!!! They are VERY rigid as to who comes into their country,all I am saying that is that Britain needs to stop immigration onto our shores as we can no longer cope with the fit to burst population and this is a very small country!!! I am not racist by any means but enough is enough and how many immigrants do we have working here and banking their earnings back in their own countries!!! False economy is what that is!!!!
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Lorna Taylor
Lorna Taylor
  • Roseann Sandison

Hedra Hornby Well said Hedra!!!!!

Sheila O Donovan Straw
Sheila O Donovan Straw
  • Roseann Sandison

I AGREE, BUT WHEN U BORN + BRED IN A COUNTRY SURELY U SHOULD HAV PRIORTY

Keith Brownsword
Keith Brownsword

CAMERON do you want a revolution on your hands? if not I suggest that you start to change your ways, I think we as english or british people have had more than enough of your kill the poor and disabled attitudes..some of us out here can see exactly what your doing, if your want us all dead start a damn nuke war and have it done with..other than that get us out of the EU and grow a pair..we all know that them lot over there tell you what to do but enough is enough, we all out here have had...

CAMERON do you want a revolution on your hands? if not I suggest that you start to change your ways, I think we as english or british people have had more than enough of your kill the poor and disabled attitudes..some of us out here can see exactly what your doing, if your want us all dead start a damn nuke war and have it done with..other than that get us out of the EU and grow a pair..we all know that them lot over there tell you what to do but enough is enough, we all out here have had or fill of your lies etc...im an olds bloke cameron but I never thought for one minute that id ever see my country which I love in the state its in all through bad management , over run with other people from all over the place , in debt up to eyes, all through a corupt load of bankers and more or less everything sold off all through the likes of yourself and thatchers govts..and lastly stop sending our troops to fight wars what have nothing to do with us..if the USA wants to start wars let them lot fight them keep us out...

Jayz Black
Jayz Black
  • Keith Brownsword

Couldn't of said it better myself.

Lorna Taylor
Lorna Taylor
  • Keith Brownsword

My thoughts exactly Keith Brownsward!!!!! Our grandfathers who fought Hitler would be spinning in their graves!!!! Strange how Germany are on top now as far as finances are concerned!!! Something is wrong there I would say most definately!!!

Yvonne Preston
Yvonne Preston
  • Keith Brownsword

he should stand down hes fkn useless

Shelli Maybury
Shelli Maybury
  • Keith Brownsword

couldn't have put it better myself!!! i think you have summed up how the majority of us are feeling, lets get this government to listen to us and stop this slaughter of our once proud nation.

Dave Chambers
Dave Chambers
  • Keith Brownsword

i 100% agree with you on this this goverment want to get there fingers out of there arses for once and protect this country first and not let any more imergrints into this country for once stop this stupid empty bedroom tax that is out of soding order but one thing is i will refuse to pay it get snp in thay should sort this country out get that so called priminister he is much use as a chocolate fire gaurd

Viv Harkness
Viv Harkness
  • Keith Brownsword

well said keith , we are needing someone like you to start us of a protest or something

Ellen Evans
Ellen Evans
  • Keith Brownsword

well said keith

June Smith
June Smith
  • Keith Brownsword

I've had to move because of this stupid tax. My heart broke when I had to hand over my keys, I had lived in my HOME for 27 years , and did not want to move, but had to because I couldn't afford to stay because of the benefits I am on. I worked all my life only taking time off to have my children, and this is what I have worked for. I don't qualify as a pensioner as the government changed the dates around. I have an illness which forced me to retire early from work, I only have basic...

I've had to move because of this stupid tax. My heart broke when I had to hand over my keys, I had lived in my HOME for 27 years , and did not want to move, but had to because I couldn't afford to stay because of the benefits I am on. I worked all my life only taking time off to have my children, and this is what I have worked for. I don't qualify as a pensioner as the government changed the dates around. I have an illness which forced me to retire early from work, I only have basic benefits and now stand to lose a tenner of that a week to pay this tax, and I’ve just been told that I will also have to pay Council tax as well. Add these costs to the rise in food, gas, and electricity, and I really don’t know how I will cope. No hope for the elderly, or the young ones starting out these days. The fat cats in parliament aren’t worried though. This doesn’t affect them in any way. But Mr C will be fine, He hasn’t got money/housing/employment worries has he... Once again the wealthy stay wealthy and the poorer families are made to pay...

Janet Forbes
Janet Forbes
  • Keith Brownsword

My father was fighting in the second world war from 1939 to 1945. On coming out of the army he was given a home for life. A home for heroes. Why should this now be taken away from his children.

Wayne Davies
Wayne Davies
  • Keith Brownsword

absolutely and totally agree

Stephen Kennedy
Stephen Kennedy

its not right this governent opens it doors to all these forieneers and close doors off british familys, I got a spare room me grandkids come now and then , but if I want keep the spare room it will cost me 40 quid a month aggrrr.

Elaine Quinn
Elaine Quinn
  • Stephen Kennedy

we all need to get signin x

Sandra Fuller
Sandra Fuller
  • Stephen Kennedy

the government are robbing bastards ... if the people of this country dont do something we will all suffer ..

Anita Atkinson
Anita Atkinson
  • Stephen Kennedy

Cunts !

John Clark
John Clark
  • Stephen Kennedy

say what you mean !!

Nicola Branch
Nicola Branch
  • Stephen Kennedy

Stephen - that's exactly what the Govt want, divide and rule. There is no place for your racist comments. And if you're going to be racist, get your English spellings right...

Nigel Spence
Nigel Spence
  • Stephen Kennedy

How are the government going to know if you have a spare room or not?

Emma Jones
Emma Jones
  • Stephen Kennedy

Really don't know where I am going to magic 40 quid a month from. Seems we are going back in time instead of forward.

Janet Ashford
Janet Ashford
  • Stephen Kennedy

Anita Atkinson fucking cunt . nice one, ur right look at the money they waste

Phil Tonka McCormack
Phil Tonka McCormack
  • Stephen Kennedy

Save your anger for the Government. The Daily Mail has been telling us about the impending immigration crisis since almost as long as it has been in print. "Rivers of Blood" had to wait 30 years after Enoch's death to have an 'I told you so' moment. The government will always use johnny foreigner coming in here and taking what's yours as a means of dividing and ruling. Uniting against them is the way to fight them.
I would like to see the government compile a register of all of the spare...

Save your anger for the Government. The Daily Mail has been telling us about the impending immigration crisis since almost as long as it has been in print. "Rivers of Blood" had to wait 30 years after Enoch's death to have an 'I told you so' moment. The government will always use johnny foreigner coming in here and taking what's yours as a means of dividing and ruling. Uniting against them is the way to fight them.
I would like to see the government compile a register of all of the spare rooms that people choose to pay for and, as part of the famous austerity measures, insist that public officials, including MPs, rent them from the tenants instead of staying in hotels or London Houses. This would save the nation £millions. There would be some quick rethinking of policy then.

Williams Carrielee
Williams Carrielee
  • Stephen Kennedy

send them back to there country taking every think off our families housing jobs slow boat get rid

Matthew Pich
Matthew Pich

Personally I agree with this legislation, we as a country should be proud of where we live, we should encourage the youth to seek employment and with this employment seek to better ourselves. And as my mother did! who is a single parent on minimum wage, own our own properties. You look to the government for assistance and assistance they give. it is not a right to EXPECT a property to be given to you just because you have alot of children or are not currently working. I have been employed...

Personally I agree with this legislation, we as a country should be proud of where we live, we should encourage the youth to seek employment and with this employment seek to better ourselves. And as my mother did! who is a single parent on minimum wage, own our own properties. You look to the government for assistance and assistance they give. it is not a right to EXPECT a property to be given to you just because you have alot of children or are not currently working. I have been employed since I was 16 and have only ever been out of work for a maximum of 6 months, I also know other people who will never work because they can't be bothered. I have so much respect for those people who hold down several jobs to support their families so they can give them the best start in life and not sit and complain about how hard done by they are by the government, when it is each individuals responsibility to ensure there own welfare.

Gemma Robinson
Gemma Robinson
  • Matthew Pich

Well said! x

Matthew Pich
Matthew Pich
  • Matthew Pich

Not heartless, sensible!!! Why should I and people I know work hard to pay for other people? We pay high taxes as it is and its time that we stopped giving to those who just take and don’t give anything back. If you have a spare room then yes you should give it to somebody who needs it. I don’t however agree with giving it to foreign nationals regardless of the reason they are in this country and how many children they have, we should look after our own first.

If those people, who are in...

Not heartless, sensible!!! Why should I and people I know work hard to pay for other people? We pay high taxes as it is and its time that we stopped giving to those who just take and don’t give anything back. If you have a spare room then yes you should give it to somebody who needs it. I don’t however agree with giving it to foreign nationals regardless of the reason they are in this country and how many children they have, we should look after our own first.

If those people, who are in housing, are not working why not attempt to get qualifications and become employable. This is quite easily achievable with support such as EMA (For under 20’s any circs), Childcare grants, parents learning allowance, adult learning allowance and other support funds (http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/extra-help-for-students-with-children) , also when it comes to work, these are the stats:
• The employment rate for those aged from 16 to 64 for October to December 2012 was 71.5%, up 0.3 percentage points from July to September 2012. There were 29.73 million people in employment aged 16 and over, up 154,000 from July to September 2012.
• The unemployment rate for October to December 2012 was 7.8% of the economically active population, down 0.1 percentage points from July to September 2012. There were 2.50 million unemployed people, down 14,000 from July to September 2012.
• The inactivity rate for those aged from 16 to 64 for October to December 2012 was 22.3%, down 0.2 percentage points from July to September 2012. There were 8.98 million economically inactive people aged from 16 to 64, down 94,000 from July to September 2012.

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/lms/labour-market-statistics/february-2013/index.html

The vast majority of the population are employed and don’t live life to the budget you mentioned but get a healthy wage that allows them to live life comfortably.
£21bn spent on housing benefit and yet 2.5 Million unemployed, this means that if each of these people claim housing benefit, they are costing the tax payer £8400 per person. This comes out of our wages, council tax and all the other taxes we have to pay. And you’re wrong about large sections of the population been unable to afford their rent. 6 million people live in supported housing that leaves just over 24 million who don’t. but they are been hit by the economic down turn in different ways, so why should this not hit everyone! Why should people who claim dole and live in properties they think they have an inherent right to live in, even though the property is owned by the local council not also feel the pinch and have to tighten their belts the same as others (Highest levels of alcohol and drugs abuse are found in housing supported areas) – they claim they can’t afford to live yet this is still true.

Private landlords own their properties and this means that as such they can dictate what they want for people to live in THEIR properties. That is their right as they have bought it. I do however agree that a cap should be put on some properties such as student housing as a landlord can charge prices for rooms that some whole houses cost which I see as exploitation. Shelter is massively biased as their main focus is to help those that need support and housing, you can’t say that people live in cramp conditions, what are they using as a comparison???? In many middle eastern and eastern European countries their culture dictates that they live with several generations in their homes, and as we have had a large influx of foreign nationals this may be one contributing factor, another may be that we have seen a population increase and a small baby boom, this I also contribute to unemployment levels and a mentality of well, if I have another child, I’ll get more money.

Matthew Pich
Matthew Pich
  • Matthew Pich

Catherine Taylor How can you say we need more housing, our main focus needs to be to stop lending to foreign banks, allow the young to achieve a high level of education, create a skilled workforce, stop immigration, stabilise the economy through work initiatives and create a stable economy through a balance of steady lending and purchasing.
Affinity Sutton is a housing organisation that specialises in the private lettings and sales, I can’t find the report you mentioned but as I live in the...

Catherine Taylor How can you say we need more housing, our main focus needs to be to stop lending to foreign banks, allow the young to achieve a high level of education, create a skilled workforce, stop immigration, stabilise the economy through work initiatives and create a stable economy through a balance of steady lending and purchasing.
Affinity Sutton is a housing organisation that specialises in the private lettings and sales, I can’t find the report you mentioned but as I live in the North west I am fully aware of the housing situation and I can easily provide the details of several letting agents who have countless single bedroom or studio apartments that are more than affordable for those who wish to live in them, this is not the problem, people feel that because they already live in these homes they shouldn’t be forced out, but it does not belong to them, they need to make room for those who have larger families so that the government can quash the swell of larger families who have requested more room through government initiatives, this whole situation is a double ended sword, you say they shouldn’t be moved, but what about the families that will be moved into these properties, where should they go?? And you talk about building more housing but where then is the funding for these projects to come from? I know as a tax payer I am not footing that bill, I pay enough and its time people stood up and said NO , I have a family and they come first, not others whether they are worse off than me or not.

I would like to know how a housing project would stimulate growth in the economy, if anything we would see a loss, more people moving into lower end accommodation, where they pay the bare minimum to live, people get comfortable there’s no incentive for them to go out and work. If you force them out, you force them to search for another way to live, a couple on this morning were a prime example of what is wrong with this country, people have been given too much and its about time a government stood up and said enough is enough. ”If you want something, then work for it”.

Also you cannot say such crippling financial pain, most of the people that live in the council houses with more rooms were given them in the 70’s or 80’s when, perhaps they had small children, yes now they will have grandchildren, but they will at some time in their lives been given the option to buy as many did, and if they didn’t then that’s their problem for not having the hindsight to see that purchasing would be better in the long run, I will say however that some individual circumstances should be taken into account, I heard a story of a family who had a son in the army, now in this case they should not be forced to move but then that brings up a moral issue. How do you decide who stays and who moves? And who would decide that? It just makes it easier if you treat everybody the same and without bias.
If a family has been forced out of their homes due to losing their jobs and financial issues, obviously this is unfortunate but these are the type of people that will be moving into the properties that you don’t want people to move out of, so you have contradicted yourself??? And with the mansion tax, this is fair enough these people have money and can afford to pay this tax, but how is it fair if you come from a working class background and achieve something with your life through hard work and determination and then have to pay large taxes to pay for those who are bone idle??? This is not fair!!!!!

You say 2 thirds are sick or disabled but I have family that work for the DWP and I am fully aware of the types of disabilities you are able to claim for which in essence dirties that fact, many can be minor and many people exploit this so they don’t have to work and get housing. For those who have carers and specially adapted rooms, if they have somebody who lives with them, which most have dedicated carers, then this will not affect them.

Matthew Pich
Matthew Pich
  • Matthew Pich

Catherine Taylor I understand that there are a lot of people who have their own sad stories, but given a chance everybody will find an excuse not to leave (What they believe to be) their homes, this needs to be done and it doesn’t matter how much you kick and scream, this country is in a bad way and concessions need to be made, every class, every creed, colour and back ground needs to make allowances for what the economic downturn has brought. You refer to supply rarely matches demand as...

Catherine Taylor I understand that there are a lot of people who have their own sad stories, but given a chance everybody will find an excuse not to leave (What they believe to be) their homes, this needs to be done and it doesn’t matter how much you kick and scream, this country is in a bad way and concessions need to be made, every class, every creed, colour and back ground needs to make allowances for what the economic downturn has brought. You refer to supply rarely matches demand as somebody with a business background this is not new, you can read as much as you want into each report but this for them; is exposure for their company and attracts new custom which is a wise move, as they are aware that this new legislation is going to force people to search for new properties.

The welfare state was a terrible idea, it allows people to become dependent on the state, it makes people lazy and not want to achieve. Also it was brought in by a different government in a different time, you can’t compare the current state of the nation to that of the 60’s, people have changed and so has this country. We have equality of opportunity as people can IF THEY WANT do what they want with their lives, but this should not mean relying on the government. Also it was never equal distribution of wealth, this is communism that your thinking of and of course we all saw how that worked out.

Personally I think you are unrealistic as you clearly can’t see a bigger picture for the country, it takes hard people to run a country and it takes even harder decisions, you cannot make everybody happy and if you make a small percentage of the population unhappy, which is what you represent then that’s what it takes.

I will never sign this petition, you have 100,000 signatures and I think I just proved my point above.

Matthew Pich
Matthew Pich
  • Matthew Pich

Catherine Taylor Its very rude calling people ignorant when in fact there is more to this argument than YOU make out. its not as black and white as people are been relocated NOT HOMELESS. and yes they have perhaps had these homes for a long time, but it was never theirs and they've had cheap rent!!! also never in any contract that i am aware of did it state these were their homes for life!!

Tracy Craven
Tracy Craven

I think is disscusting asking for tax on bedrooms we all have family's and grandchildren we have lived here all our lives and now your going to charge us for are bedrooms its a bloody cheek and some of us don't own our own houses like u the Goverment who owen so many we are not millionaires like u we weren't born with silver spoons in our mouths are parents worked bloody hard and still couldn't afford their own house next you will be taxing the air that we breath you are another margret...

I think is disscusting asking for tax on bedrooms we all have family's and grandchildren we have lived here all our lives and now your going to charge us for are bedrooms its a bloody cheek and some of us don't own our own houses like u the Goverment who owen so many we are not millionaires like u we weren't born with silver spoons in our mouths are parents worked bloody hard and still couldn't afford their own house next you will be taxing the air that we breath you are another margret thatcher only think of yourselves and and how much you can pinch of the working class and the disabled and pensioners and the less well off I never voted for your Goverment and never will leave us poor alone.

Lee Craven
Lee Craven
  • Tracy Craven

Here,here. I can see demonstrations coming

Lorna Taylor
Lorna Taylor
  • Tracy Craven

Cameron is blaming the old the young and the disabled and the unemployed for the state the country is in,no mention of all those politicians who have had their hands in the tills over the years and some of them have had their hands on innappropriate acts on children!!! What's been running this country is a bunch of paedophiles,thieves and now we have the Nazis!!!!

Michelle Veasey Was Baker
Michelle Veasey Was Baker
  • Tracy Craven

You had a nice big house to bring up your family - why can't you step aside to give another family a better life. I own my house and will be happy to sell it and find something smaller when mine have flown the nest as will most of my neighbours why should having a council house make a difference

Trevor Pace
Trevor Pace
  • Tracy Craven

DC Thatchers spoilt and priviledged grandchild

Catherine Baker
Catherine Baker
  • Tracy Craven

Would you be so happy 2 give it up under these conditions......Apparently on January 1st 2014 the UK will open its door 2 unlimited numbers of people from Romania & Bulgaria, 29million people will be entitled to come here.....not just 2 work, but 2 take advantage of our benefits, housing, schools & health services, almost half of them live in poverty, so where would u go if u were them, that's right here in good old britain, i mean as if we don't already have enuf here already, don't get me...

Would you be so happy 2 give it up under these conditions......Apparently on January 1st 2014 the UK will open its door 2 unlimited numbers of people from Romania & Bulgaria, 29million people will be entitled to come here.....not just 2 work, but 2 take advantage of our benefits, housing, schools & health services, almost half of them live in poverty, so where would u go if u were them, that's right here in good old britain, i mean as if we don't already have enuf here already, don't get me wrong, i am all 4 helping those in need, but there's a limit 2 everything, our own already here are being stripped of everything as it is, this is a big world & they can't all possibly fit into the UK, we will become beggars in our own country because they will have it all, takes the micheal it really does!

Diane Lasken-Sondermann
Diane Lasken-Sondermann
  • Tracy Craven

Michelle Veasey Was Baker ....you sound like a communist. What right have you to tell people they can or can not have a guest bedroom? Read or watch "DR. SHIVAGO"..fine if you want to sell your home once your kids are grown but why should you & a bunch of control-freaks dictate to others who like their homes & like having a place their grown kids can visit what they may or may not do?

Karen Fitzpatrick
Karen Fitzpatrick
  • Tracy Craven

Let's see how you feel when you have grandchildren hey. What a horrible person you are, no understanding of people in difficulties. Like me with lung disease and arthritis. Let's hope you don't end up in this situation one day!!

Karen Fitzpatrick
Karen Fitzpatrick
  • Tracy Craven

Diane Lasken-Sondermann Michelle need's a reality check. What a bitch!!

Leanne Davies
Leanne Davies

I agree with the policy there are families living in over crowded council houses as the bigger homes are already lived in by people whose children have grown up and moved out, it is not your property it belongs to the council they maintain it and subsidise the rent everyone has the right to buy at the end of the day.I myself liked my council house enough to buy it when I was only workimg 16hours a week and lived alone with my daughter its not that hard.

Janet Forbes
Janet Forbes
  • Leanne Davies

People cannot afford to buy coucil houses now, even with a discount. Why should they be forced to leave somewhere they have paid high rents on for years.

Anne Chandley
Anne Chandley
  • Leanne Davies

people should never of been allowed to buy houses from the council thats one of the reasons there is not enough housing now!!

Catherine Baker
Catherine Baker
  • Leanne Davies

It is that hard if your sick & disabled leanne!

Catherine Baker
Catherine Baker
  • Leanne Davies

If the goverments had not let every 1 else in this country & give them houses just like that, then there would be no shortage would there, so its ok 2 toss people out on the streets & ignore their rights 2 a family life is it, which by the way is 1 of your human rights, plenty of people coming into this country & using those human rights 2 get housed, but we in our own country dont have the same, are you having a laugh here?, there are thousands of empty property's now boarded up, empty, yet...

If the goverments had not let every 1 else in this country & give them houses just like that, then there would be no shortage would there, so its ok 2 toss people out on the streets & ignore their rights 2 a family life is it, which by the way is 1 of your human rights, plenty of people coming into this country & using those human rights 2 get housed, but we in our own country dont have the same, are you having a laugh here?, there are thousands of empty property's now boarded up, empty, yet they can borrow 32billion 2 build a stupid railway route that only Bankers & VIPS's will ever use, don't see anyone complaining about that, or that the rich get council tax rebates on their spare rooms whilst the poor, sick & disabled have 2 pay 4 their extra spare room, when you sign a legal document saying your home is 4 life, then that's how it should be, proper makes me angry that some of you on here are that ignorant of the facts of peoples lifes, their situations, their disabilities, why don't you go tell it 2 the goverments, instead of being brainwashed by there clever tactics, certainly know where my vote is going at the next election!

Catherine Baker
Catherine Baker
  • Leanne Davies

Why don't you voice your opinion on this leanne, at least then you would be directing it the right way......Apparently on January 1st 2014 the UK will open its door 2 unlimited numbers of people from Romania & Bulgaria, 29million people will be entitled to come here.....not just 2 work, but 2 take advantage of our benefits, housing, schools & health services, almost half of them live in poverty, so where would u go if u were them, that's right here in good old britain, I mean as if we don't...

Why don't you voice your opinion on this leanne, at least then you would be directing it the right way......Apparently on January 1st 2014 the UK will open its door 2 unlimited numbers of people from Romania & Bulgaria, 29million people will be entitled to come here.....not just 2 work, but 2 take advantage of our benefits, housing, schools & health services, almost half of them live in poverty, so where would u go if u were them, that's right here in good old britain, I mean as if we don't already have enuf here already, don't get me wrong, I am all 4 helping those in need, but there's a limit 2 everything, our own already here are being stripped of everything as it is, this is a big world & they can't all possibly fit into the UK, we will become beggars in our own country because they will have it all, takes the piss it really does!

Catherine Baker
Catherine Baker
  • Leanne Davies

PS: Social housing is not owned by the council or goverment, get your facts right......In the United Kingdom, housing associations are private, non-profit making organisations that provide low-cost "social housing" for people in need of a home. Any trading surplus is used to maintain existing housing and to help finance new homes. Although independent they are regulated by the state and commonly receive public funding. They are now the United Kingdom's major providers of new housing for...

PS: Social housing is not owned by the council or goverment, get your facts right......In the United Kingdom, housing associations are private, non-profit making organisations that provide low-cost "social housing" for people in need of a home. Any trading surplus is used to maintain existing housing and to help finance new homes. Although independent they are regulated by the state and commonly receive public funding. They are now the United Kingdom's major providers of new housing for rent, while many also run shared ownership schemes to help those who cannot afford to buy a home outright.

Housing associations provide a wide range of housing, some managing large estates of housing for families, while the smallest may perhaps manage a single scheme of housing for older people. Much of the supported accommodation in the UK is also provided by Housing Associations, with specialist projects for people with mental health or learning disabilities, with substance misuse problems (alcohol or illegal drugs), the formerly homeless, young people, ex-offenders and women fleeing domestic violence.

Catherine Baker
Catherine Baker
  • Leanne Davies

People should never been allowed in this country to take all the housing you mean anne!

Bailey Carter
Bailey Carter
  • Leanne Davies

The implementation of the tax is flawed. If they provided ENOUGH one bedroom properties to downsize to it would work. As it stands there are little or no one bedroom properties available

Sandra Fuller
Sandra Fuller

we should all refuse to pay.. lets make a proper stand against this.. benefits are being cut aswell so how the hell are we supposed to pay extra to keep our homes...

Viv Harkness
Viv Harkness
  • Sandra Fuller

Iwill stand , time we all did

Jean Rowland
Jean Rowland
  • Sandra Fuller

Fantastic just got back from the shops and had a conversation about this subject and I said its time well took a stand against this Wondered how to go about it so this is start lets see if we can change things:)

Mark Romvari
Mark Romvari
  • Sandra Fuller

The problem with this,even though I agree with you,is not everyone cares,a lot of people aren't effected by this.

Jean Rowland
Jean Rowland
  • Sandra Fuller

But they need to be careful as one day it might affect them:)

Jean Verity-Doyle
Jean Verity-Doyle
  • Sandra Fuller

Lobby your MP write to them in Westminster.

Helen Kerr
Helen Kerr
  • Sandra Fuller

so then we need to make those that dont care( due to not being affected by it) care

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