Kirsty Reynolds
Kirsty Reynolds

I know this is controveral, in a whole I am against what the government is doing, because my ex is in our old council home and I moved away with the kids to start a new life, I now have a mortgage, my ex recently had a stroke and has no chance of returning to work, but it is the kids family home and they have a right to see their dad, if he has to move to a smaller one bedroomed place, how can he have his children over night? I know it will be a struggle for him to meet the housing costs if...

I know this is controveral, in a whole I am against what the government is doing, because my ex is in our old council home and I moved away with the kids to start a new life, I now have a mortgage, my ex recently had a stroke and has no chance of returning to work, but it is the kids family home and they have a right to see their dad, if he has to move to a smaller one bedroomed place, how can he have his children over night? I know it will be a struggle for him to meet the housing costs if they expect him to pay the difference. Also because he had a severe stroke the house has been adapted to his needs, if he moved somewhere else they would have to adapt that place aswell. There are alot of families this rule is going to affect. Fathers don't have enough access as it is, this will make it even harder for them. However, there is a shortage of houses and single people/couples with no children or family that stays over might be better of in a smaller home.

Lisa Campbell
Lisa Campbell

I don't agree with what is happening and hopefully they don't make you move at all(my mum is in this situation?) but why should 1 person be living in a 3bedroom house all by theirself. when there are families that need a 3bedroom house and are cramped in a 2 bedroom house?

Kelly Dougherty
Kelly Dougherty
  • Lisa Campbell

I agree Lisa xx

Lou Blanchard
Lou Blanchard
  • Lisa Campbell

i agree lisa , i live next doot to 2 old women who never have any1 visit let alone stay over , yet there houses are huge xxx

Rachael Walker
Rachael Walker
  • Lisa Campbell

I think it depends on the situation and the person , my sisters in a three on her own but one room used for grandchildren staying , I need a bigger three or four but it was my choice to have five children knowing I had no room i don't think anyone should be forced to pay or leave there homes for the likes of my needs , if its an elderly lady who maybe can't get upstairs then a bungalow should be offered , its horrible to think about all the stress its causeing x

Sandra Fuller
Sandra Fuller

we should all refuse to pay.. lets make a proper stand against this.. benefits are being cut aswell so how the hell are we supposed to pay extra to keep our homes...

Viv Harkness
Viv Harkness
  • Sandra Fuller

Iwill stand , time we all did

Lone Boireannach
Lone Boireannach
  • Sandra Fuller

Fantastic just got back from the shops and had a conversation about this subject and I said its time well took a stand against this Wondered how to go about it so this is start lets see if we can change things:)

Mark Romvari
Mark Romvari
  • Sandra Fuller

The problem with this,even though I agree with you,is not everyone cares,a lot of people aren't effected by this.

Lone Boireannach
Lone Boireannach
  • Sandra Fuller

But they need to be careful as one day it might affect them:)

Jean Verity-Doyle
Jean Verity-Doyle
  • Sandra Fuller

Lobby your MP write to them in Westminster.

Helen Kerr
Helen Kerr
  • Sandra Fuller

so then we need to make those that dont care( due to not being affected by it) care

Dawn Curtis
Dawn Curtis

I'm a single foster Carer working for local authorities, not only am I now liable for the extra bedroom taxes but may have to quit the good care work I provide for local authorities and be forced into finding alternative work. I do a lot of up to date training and I enjoy the care work i provide.. what a shame I may be forced into downsizing my home to where and what job... shame on you Mr Cameron.....as the local authorities are crying out for foster carers this government are making it all very questionable .....

Dawn Moore
Dawn Moore
  • Dawn Curtis

You are only being charged because you are claiming Housing Benefit and the reason you are able to claim and receive Housing Benefit and the reason foster children are not added to your claim is because you receive hundreds of pounds a week for each child you foster and this income is completely disregarded..... think about it

Steaven Smith
Steaven Smith
  • Dawn Curtis

mum told u b4 on this one, as u are a 'single person' with no dependants! u there fore are a 1 bed need person, also as u earn money from fostering children this is classed as an income, im sure that somewhere in the tenancy agreement that it sates that must not be used for business use, therefore if government wanted that they could see this as a breach! so therefore ull lose out anyway and if u want to continue fostering children without having to pay for the rooms to continue then simple...

mum told u b4 on this one, as u are a 'single person' with no dependants! u there fore are a 1 bed need person, also as u earn money from fostering children this is classed as an income, im sure that somewhere in the tenancy agreement that it sates that must not be used for business use, therefore if government wanted that they could see this as a breach! so therefore ull lose out anyway and if u want to continue fostering children without having to pay for the rooms to continue then simple as buy your own house to be able to do so! and for the people that have say 4 kids 3 boys 1 girl stuck in a 2 bed flat because of no houses due to likes of yourself mum thats fair is it ? xx

Nicola Constantinou
Nicola Constantinou
  • Dawn Curtis

omg wtf you on about steaven? mum works so hard at what she does and had brought all us kids up in that house went to college to do what she does.you have all these kids steaven with women you should have a job and look after them not count on the government to pay for them or give you a house.over here if you don't work you don't get shit.

Nicola Constantinou
Nicola Constantinou
  • Dawn Curtis

they don't know what the hell there talking about.

Lorna Keggans Gregg
Lorna Keggans Gregg

well I agree with the bedroom charge as then it means that someone like me might be able to actually get a council house rather than pay someone elses mortgage. Why should single people have a three bed house. these homes were built to be family homes so families should be in them.

Laura Rumney
Laura Rumney
  • Lorna Keggans Gregg

it isn`t going to create more houses though, all it means they`ll be shuffling people about

Lorna Keggans Gregg
Lorna Keggans Gregg
  • Lorna Keggans Gregg

Oh so now i am ignorant because i am looking for a better situation for my children!!! Because of the selfish people sitting in larger houses that they need my family have to suffer. I have been trough hell with private landlords who decide to do whatever they want. My family have had to move three times in the last year and a half because of landlords and just before xmas we were preparing to goin to homeless accommodation because our local housing had no 3 bed houses for us. There is also...

Oh so now i am ignorant because i am looking for a better situation for my children!!! Because of the selfish people sitting in larger houses that they need my family have to suffer. I have been trough hell with private landlords who decide to do whatever they want. My family have had to move three times in the last year and a half because of landlords and just before xmas we were preparing to goin to homeless accommodation because our local housing had no 3 bed houses for us. There is also over a dozen one bedroom bugalows that are borded up as no one will take them so yes people should be made to take a house that is suitable for their situation.

Lorna Keggans Gregg
Lorna Keggans Gregg
  • Lorna Keggans Gregg

and why in heavens name should someone have one or two bedrooms sitting empty most of the time when there is folk like me desperate for a decent house. If folk dont want to pay the bedroom tax then get a bloody job simple!!!! i bet this situation doesnt even effect you yet you still want to shoot your mouth off. You dont know what i have been through so dont even think you can call me ignorant!!!!!

Laura Rumney
Laura Rumney
  • Lorna Keggans Gregg

there is nothing in my reply suggesting you are ignorant, where did that come from ? or was there another reply that has been deleted ?
We are a couple in a 2 bed house, there are NO 1 bed flats/houses available to downsize to.
`Get a bloody job` you say, my husband works full time on a low wage, so yes it does affect (not effect) us, we get a small amount of housing benefit.
I agree that single people or couples should not be occupying a 3 or 4 bed `social`house, the problem is that there...

there is nothing in my reply suggesting you are ignorant, where did that come from ? or was there another reply that has been deleted ?
We are a couple in a 2 bed house, there are NO 1 bed flats/houses available to downsize to.
`Get a bloody job` you say, my husband works full time on a low wage, so yes it does affect (not effect) us, we get a small amount of housing benefit.
I agree that single people or couples should not be occupying a 3 or 4 bed `social`house, the problem is that there are not enough 1 bed places for them to move to. This is not a government exercise in fairness, it`s all about them saving money by cutting housing benefit, the government know it`s impossible for most social housing tennents to downsize, they don`t really want them to downsize, the fewer that can, the more money the government saves.
Have you not noticed they aren`t asking single people or couples in social housing who are lucky enough to be employed & earning enough not to be in receipt of housing benefit to give up their large houses to someone who is overcrowded, that wouldn`t bring in any revenue. Neither are they cutting housing benefit for pesioners living in 3 bed or more houses, at least not yet, pensioners are more the Tory`s main voters
People shuffling around to either a smaller or larger propery is not going to shorten the waiting list for social housing, it will not create more houses.
You sound very bitter, maybe getting councelling would be a good idea.

Stewart Mann
Stewart Mann

What about people that are over crowded. I have 3 kids in 1 bedroom 2 girls one boy! We have been on waiting list for over 5 years! why should we be forced to stay over crowed when some people have a spare room going just for when family or friends stop every now and then!

Laura Rumney
Laura Rumney
  • Stewart Mann

if you only have 2 bedrooms, why have 3 children ?

Stewart Mann
Stewart Mann
  • Stewart Mann

Your not chinese are you ? Why should i only be able to have 2 kids?

Laura Rumney
Laura Rumney
  • Stewart Mann

I didn`t say that, please read for comprehension, btw it`s you`re

Natalie Cunningham
Natalie Cunningham

I agree wit this charge.. People are seriously overcrowded or homeless and tax payers are paying housing benifit for empty rooms. STOP BEING SO SELFISH PEOPLE.

Karen Fitzpatrick
Karen Fitzpatrick
  • Natalie Cunningham

Also paying for people who don't work or can't afford the 3+ kids they keep having!! Don't lets forget that one.

Carol Fenton Morgan
Carol Fenton Morgan
  • Natalie Cunningham

i would agree with this policy if the government had first made sure ther was enough suitable smaller housing for these people to move to...but there isnt...and possible the ones offered would be ones where no one else would want to live...it may be a fair policy but only if implemented correctly and they should have sorted this all out before bringing it in...as for people in the private reenting sector only being allowed the space they need...what a load of rubbish.i have lived 11yrs next...

i would agree with this policy if the government had first made sure ther was enough suitable smaller housing for these people to move to...but there isnt...and possible the ones offered would be ones where no one else would want to live...it may be a fair policy but only if implemented correctly and they should have sorted this all out before bringing it in...as for people in the private reenting sector only being allowed the space they need...what a load of rubbish.i have lived 11yrs next to a woman on her own with 2 dogs and virtually never has anyone round or to stay and its got 2 bedrooms..and the government has been paying and still is....so this charge...not a tax should not have been brought in so quickly...

Catherine Wild
Catherine Wild

I have lived in my house for 9 yrs now and have no intensions of leaving they will have to drag me out by the scruff of my hair, I'm having nightmares about it, I am so happy here it's not right, my grandchildren come to stay every weekend, people are going to lose their homes because they will not be able to afford it, what is it something like 25% of your income for each room, then all you have left is enough to buy £10 electric, £10 gas and prob get a tenners worth of food to last you two...

I have lived in my house for 9 yrs now and have no intensions of leaving they will have to drag me out by the scruff of my hair, I'm having nightmares about it, I am so happy here it's not right, my grandchildren come to stay every weekend, people are going to lose their homes because they will not be able to afford it, what is it something like 25% of your income for each room, then all you have left is enough to buy £10 electric, £10 gas and prob get a tenners worth of food to last you two weeks, totally don't think so. I will stand my ground..WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED....

Lone Boireannach
Lone Boireannach
  • Catherine Wild

Well said Catherine I am also having nightmares and have been on anti depressants for some time because of this and other measures, I was working up until last year am nearly 60 and like you my grandchildren and children come here and help me as I am arthitic We Have To All Stand Together:)

Barbara Dawn
Barbara Dawn
  • Catherine Wild

just to clarify this- its 14% duduction in your housing benefit if you have one spare bed room and 25% REDUCTION if you have more than one spare room- so for example , you receive £100 per week now for a three bed property, but only need one bed, u will lose £25. if you need two beds you will lose £14. hence- u can see that those who may be single and unemplyed (lots of older middle aged with grown up families will fall into this category) and you live on £71 JSA, you will bepaying between...

just to clarify this- its 14% duduction in your housing benefit if you have one spare bed room and 25% REDUCTION if you have more than one spare room- so for example , you receive £100 per week now for a three bed property, but only need one bed, u will lose £25. if you need two beds you will lose £14. hence- u can see that those who may be single and unemplyed (lots of older middle aged with grown up families will fall into this category) and you live on £71 JSA, you will bepaying between £14 and £25 (in this scenario) towards your rent. uthority for discretionary housing payments- but this pot of money allocated by the government is controlled by each local authority and they make their own rules up about who is eligible for it and who isnt!
Not much left for food (proces on the increase again) extortionate gas/elec/water prices etc, and god forbis you might still need to run a car (for job interviews, possibilities etc) cameron and his cronies need a wake up call- I can totally see the reasoning behind these ideas, but they have not thought about the consequences of this- homelessness/ increased poverty/increased risk of crime etc - not really going to solve any financial crisis in this country is it?

Celine Wathier
Celine Wathier
  • Catherine Wild

Building more social housings means destroying green belts, parks, school sport grounds, etc.........all those spaces we should all fight for to save for our children or future ! Too many children already have nowhere to go to , to play in, to do....
Refurbishing derelict properties cost money which the government has not got ! It is already struggling to keep occupied properties into decent homes standard !
Blaming the government for everything is not helping !
It is selfishness, self...

Building more social housings means destroying green belts, parks, school sport grounds, etc.........all those spaces we should all fight for to save for our children or future ! Too many children already have nowhere to go to , to play in, to do....
Refurbishing derelict properties cost money which the government has not got ! It is already struggling to keep occupied properties into decent homes standard !
Blaming the government for everything is not helping !
It is selfishness, self righteous attitude which cause shortage of housing !
A property is yours to do what you want with and as you wish only if it is rightfully yours. Council flats are government properties and if it decides that it hasn't got the finance nor the resource to build or refurbish more properties, then it has every right to reclaim empty rooms or ask for money from its tenants wishing to keep the luxury of extra rooms while preventing other families in need of affordable accommodations.
Your selfishness is resulting in overcrowding houses, stress, depression, violence,....... the children are the ones suffering !
ISN'T IT TIME TO START THINKING ABOUT OTHER CHILDREN AND SUFFERING FAMILIES !
BUT I FORGET IT IS ALL ABOUT YOU PEOPLE AND WHAT YOU WANT !
AND WHAT IF IT WAS YOUR FAMILY 20, 30, 40, 50,........YEARS AGO !?!

Billy Hogan
Billy Hogan
  • Catherine Wild

It is a bigger problem that the government is "overcrowding" the country, in my area alone I struggle to hear a local accent, or even an English one. most of the small shops are "fly by nights" today Polish, tomorrow African, the day after another Eastern European national. It looks to me like the government or some powers that be, are giving out grants to Immigrants to start up business, they last max 3mths then close, and don't get me started on the houses..8-9-10 children per family,...

It is a bigger problem that the government is "overcrowding" the country, in my area alone I struggle to hear a local accent, or even an English one. most of the small shops are "fly by nights" today Polish, tomorrow African, the day after another Eastern European national. It looks to me like the government or some powers that be, are giving out grants to Immigrants to start up business, they last max 3mths then close, and don't get me started on the houses..8-9-10 children per family, mothers look about 18yrs old, we all know about the scam of groups taking the same children to the DWP like pass the parcel, and making a claim for child benefits for them, when they are queried..no speak english...jokes

Candy Jane Weston
Candy Jane Weston
  • Catherine Wild

in responce to Celine Smith-ish u do make a valid point about over crowding but there are many factors to this argument heres just one of them
this policy only affects those people who claim HOUSEING BENIFIT lets say i am a single person but live in a 3 bed house therefore have 2 spare rooms but because i work and pay my rent im allowed to stay in my council home with no consiquences please tell me how that is fair ????? i feel this policy should apply to everyone who resides in social...

in responce to Celine Smith-ish u do make a valid point about over crowding but there are many factors to this argument heres just one of them
this policy only affects those people who claim HOUSEING BENIFIT lets say i am a single person but live in a 3 bed house therefore have 2 spare rooms but because i work and pay my rent im allowed to stay in my council home with no consiquences please tell me how that is fair ????? i feel this policy should apply to everyone who resides in social housing not just a select few.
all this policy is doing is creating more over crowding because it doesnt take account for personal surcumstances such as divided familys with a father or grandparents having access to his/ their children on over night stays on weekends and school holidays.
so please tell me where it is selfish to want to retain a spare room for these reasons ?

Jane McEwan
Jane McEwan
  • Catherine Wild

We all have our opinions, each 1 as important as the other. It's pathetic it has came to this. It's the council that housed us in the first place, we pay our rent etc all our days & they decide to pull it out from under us. They should never have sold the council accommodation on. They were built for renting out to the people who could not afford to buy.
There is also a new way of how benefits will be paid. I|E Housing benefit will now be paid to the tennant & the tennant has to pay the...

We all have our opinions, each 1 as important as the other. It's pathetic it has came to this. It's the council that housed us in the first place, we pay our rent etc all our days & they decide to pull it out from under us. They should never have sold the council accommodation on. They were built for renting out to the people who could not afford to buy.
There is also a new way of how benefits will be paid. I|E Housing benefit will now be paid to the tennant & the tennant has to pay the landlord (cutting out the middle man). This is a recipe for disaster as far as i am concerned.

Stephen Brown
Stephen Brown
  • Catherine Wild

Barbara Dawn no offence but I think everybody is aware of what we have to pay as we, ve all recieved letters telling us how much worse off were going to be... so no clarification needed!!

Frances Young
Frances Young
  • Catherine Wild

Stop having children then

Rebecca Westlake Yearsley
Rebecca Westlake Yearsley
  • Catherine Wild

Candy Jane Weston buy your own house or private rent then you can have as many bedroom as you want

Christine Shentall Ne Burton

I think it is wrong we carnt get a bloody job and carnt really aford to live why do, s this government want to give money away and not look after there own.... they r blood suckin assholes, thats my opinion....

Ian Anderson
Ian Anderson
  • Christine Shentall Ne Burton

The government are quite happy to stick 6 billion£s a year into a country that has a nuclear program and a space program and have taken 10s of thousands of jobs out of the UK,And are Quite happy to crippple financialey the people who are most vulnarable in our own country.!!!!!(C---S!.

Mark Gray
Mark Gray
  • Christine Shentall Ne Burton

Ian Anderson thats how much they want to fuck us.Like they hate their own people. They LOVE foreigners though.So much so they shower them with all our hard earned cash and resources FOR NOTHING.AND OUR JOBS.AND NOW our HOMES are required.. bastards are goin toooo far.GRRR

Lenora Wilmot
Lenora Wilmot
  • Christine Shentall Ne Burton

their savin up to build a train track for a fast train lol while everyone who cant afford to live suffers

Hedra Hornby
Hedra Hornby
  • Christine Shentall Ne Burton

financially vulnerable

James Mcindoe
James Mcindoe
  • Christine Shentall Ne Burton

who is this train for. think about it. its not for you or me i will be dead by the time its built why do i need it. if the govneed it fund it from there expens acounts not ours,

Rebecca Westlake Yearsley
Rebecca Westlake Yearsley
  • Christine Shentall Ne Burton

there are jobs out there they may not be your ideal job but they are there. i have a full time job and a casual one so get off your ass and get a job pay your own way and you can have as many bedrooms as you want

Dennis Smalley
Dennis Smalley
  • Christine Shentall Ne Burton

we cant afford the train tickets either
only for posh people

Richard Hessey
Richard Hessey
  • Christine Shentall Ne Burton

We havent even got enough land area to have a train system that fast unless very few stops & that reduces passengers It's a white elephant while ppl in need suffer.

David Miller
David Miller
  • Christine Shentall Ne Burton

a fast train back to the 1800 when there was poor house for the poor and workhouse too

Phil Walsh
Phil Walsh

I am amazed at how some people can blame the mostly socialist parties that represent the majority of countries that make up the EU are to blame for the rise of the fascist right and their policies in the UK. For f**k sake if it wasn't for Europe your kids would already be in the Chinese style sweat shops the the 1% are planning for the children of the stupid once they help take their children out of Europe and out of the protection of the Human rights. An act that the UK government invented...

I am amazed at how some people can blame the mostly socialist parties that represent the majority of countries that make up the EU are to blame for the rise of the fascist right and their policies in the UK. For f**k sake if it wasn't for Europe your kids would already be in the Chinese style sweat shops the the 1% are planning for the children of the stupid once they help take their children out of Europe and out of the protection of the Human rights. An act that the UK government invented and never ratified into UK law until those dastardly Europeans forced us to.

Yesterday the Queen sighed us up to a new Commonwealth version of the same act which we also won’t uphold in our own country but will use as a stick to beat the underdeveloped countries.

As for why Germany is doing so well, they work hard unlike so many in the UK and their government unlike the UK's have not allowed their rich to rape their nation, steal their nations resources or bend the people across the barrel of capitalism and f**k them up the arse like the UK government, who are our 1% are and have done to the UK, its people and it's economy. Wake up folks the only people to benefit from leaving Europe is the same bastards who are turning us over now, their the wolves in sheep clothing who are currently trying to convince you that black is white. That Europe is the energy, when the truth is they are the enemy and they will stuff you and your children once they have conned you into giving up your rights!

Keith Thomson
Keith Thomson
  • Phil Walsh

Do you feel better now? :D

Phil Walsh
Phil Walsh
  • Phil Walsh

Keith Thomson a little

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