Lorraine Davie
Lorraine Davie

With regards to this I am in agreement with the goverment the goverment are not saying you must vacate your property they are simply saying they will only give money for really what your entitled to, i have witnessed in my own street single people with 3 bedded properties so if these persons want a big property but do not really require this then its more a factor of want more than need, I myself at one point was a single parent in private rent working full time paying £400 per month rent...

With regards to this I am in agreement with the goverment the goverment are not saying you must vacate your property they are simply saying they will only give money for really what your entitled to, i have witnessed in my own street single people with 3 bedded properties so if these persons want a big property but do not really require this then its more a factor of want more than need, I myself at one point was a single parent in private rent working full time paying £400 per month rent with no help from housing benefit and I had to do so I can't see why we are putting up so much objections there will be people who feel it is unfair but perhaps if the income support rule was to change this would cause alot more anger as at the minute single claimants can claim until a child is seven meaning they are not surged to work or go to the jobcentre if this ruling changes which I am sure it will there will be alot more than bedroom tax to be discussed, we should be gratefull we get any sort of help.

H Ross Anderson
H Ross Anderson
  • Lorraine Davie

Why do you think these people are living in the bigger properties in the first place? Councils don't put single folks into 3 bed houses if smaller ones available. Small single bed houses are not thick on the ground.

Lorraine Davie
Lorraine Davie
  • Lorraine Davie

Sorry but I can see this is an issue however the website homeswapper shows me there is one bedded properties it just may not be in the area the applicant is wanting most individuals on this website are wanting to get an increase in property size so I cannot understand if people feel so at theat of being evicted how there is not an overload of properties on homeswapper looking to downsize .

Adam Day
Adam Day

Have you all forgot about the poor family's who have 3+ kids and are crammed into a 2 bed house because there's people living on there own in 3 or 4 bed houses and wont move to a 1 bed. so the struggling family's have to suffer do they? I know people in this situation and it makes me sick that single people are being greedy with 4 beds wasted while family's have to struggle. I know young family's who struggle like this(i was one of them).so if you don't want to pay, get a house that has the...

Have you all forgot about the poor family's who have 3+ kids and are crammed into a 2 bed house because there's people living on there own in 3 or 4 bed houses and wont move to a 1 bed. so the struggling family's have to suffer do they? I know people in this situation and it makes me sick that single people are being greedy with 4 beds wasted while family's have to struggle. I know young family's who struggle like this(i was one of them).so if you don't want to pay, get a house that has the rooms to suit you and it wont cost u ewt will it. and it will go along way to helping the housing shortage wont it. go on D.C your doin a good deed there, screw the greedy gits who want it all handed on a plate your helpin those who need it with this one.

Catherine Baker
Catherine Baker
  • Adam Day

Apparently on January 1st 2014 the UK will open its door 2 unlimited numbers of people from Romania & Bulgaria, 29million people will be entitled to come here.....not just 2 work, but 2 take advantage of our benefits, housing, schools & health services, almost half of them live in poverty, so where would u go if u were them, that's right here in good old britain, I mean as if we don't already have enuf here already, don't get me wrong, I am all 4 helping those in need, but there's a limit 2...

Apparently on January 1st 2014 the UK will open its door 2 unlimited numbers of people from Romania & Bulgaria, 29million people will be entitled to come here.....not just 2 work, but 2 take advantage of our benefits, housing, schools & health services, almost half of them live in poverty, so where would u go if u were them, that's right here in good old britain, I mean as if we don't already have enuf here already, don't get me wrong, I am all 4 helping those in need, but there's a limit 2 everything, our own already here are being stripped of everything as it is, this is a big world & they can't all possibly fit into the UK, we will become beggars in our own country because they will have it all, takes the piss it really does!.... But i guess that's ok is it?, no-one would be going through this if they never let the amount of people they have into this country over the past 20yrs, we are a small minority in our own country, so who do you think is draining the benefit system then & taking all the homes then? And by the way, lots of people have been paying their full rent for years, but may have lost their jobs, or become to sick to work, or are disabled, its not just a one way story here that you have been brainwashed to believe, there is more to this than meets the eye, by the way this is a petition against these taxes, not a petition in support of it, your on the wrong place to voice that opinion dont you think? Makes me sick also that people just think about themself's to, many people have been through harder times than you & still are, and DC is not helping anyone, just shifting the goverments mess ups & responsibity's for failing to provide homes for a growing population, at the end of the day, if you are going to let thousands/millions into this country, then don't give them the homes that are rightfully the British, then people like you would not be suffering whilst half of the EU are living better lifes than us, people have a right to a family life & not everyone has empty rooms that they are not using or need, and there are not enough single property's, so its not viable all together, but guess its ok for people to live in cardboard boxes to make room for you, at least you got a roof over your head, unlike many, & maybe you should not have had so many kids if you were not n position to accomadate them, guess you will say you have the right to have as many as you like, well so do other people have the right to continue with their family life's ie: have grankids to stay, other members of the family, kids that have left & live miles away but want to spend some quality time with their parents, or diasbled people who need an extra room for carers!

Laura Rumney
Laura Rumney
  • Adam Day

I agree that single people or couples should not be occupying a 3 or 4 bed `social`house, the problem is that there are not enough 1 bed places for them to move to. This is not a government exercise in fairness, it`s all about them saving money by cutting housing benefit, the government know it`s impossible for most social housing tennents to downsize, they don`t really want them to downsize, the fewer that can, the more money the government saves.
Have you not noticed they aren`t asking...

I agree that single people or couples should not be occupying a 3 or 4 bed `social`house, the problem is that there are not enough 1 bed places for them to move to. This is not a government exercise in fairness, it`s all about them saving money by cutting housing benefit, the government know it`s impossible for most social housing tennents to downsize, they don`t really want them to downsize, the fewer that can, the more money the government saves.
Have you not noticed they aren`t asking single people or couples in social housing who are lucky enough to be employed & earning enough not to be in receipt of housing benefit to give up their large houses to someone who is overcrowded, that wouldn`t bring in any revenue. Neither are they cutting housing benefit for pesioners living in 3 bed or more houses, at least not yet, pensioners are more the Tory`s main voters
People shuffling around to either a smaller or larger propery is not going to shorten the waiting list for social housing, it will not create more houses.

Derek Condon
Derek Condon

I am currently about to be forced to accept paying for demolition of my own structurally sound home as a direct result of government "policy". I too have a "spare" bedroom and will most likely be penalised for it. Cameron and his cohorts are trying to put the blame for this deliberately planned recession onto those least able to defend themselves and the BEDROOM TAX iis just another part of their deceitful "game". Due to my recent and long term fight to keep my home from being demolished...

I am currently about to be forced to accept paying for demolition of my own structurally sound home as a direct result of government "policy". I too have a "spare" bedroom and will most likely be penalised for it. Cameron and his cohorts are trying to put the blame for this deliberately planned recession onto those least able to defend themselves and the BEDROOM TAX iis just another part of their deceitful "game". Due to my recent and long term fight to keep my home from being demolished to make way for new Rabbit hutch sized so-called "alternative" shared equity (make that FORCED shared equity), I have considerable insight into this nonsense from our political dictators.

Housing associations are not building many single bedroom homes if any at all (other than student “hutches“ of course at some UNI’s etc), so the question has to be; move to which one apartment alternative accommodation to avoid this ridiculous Tax; how can that even be possible especially when the morons are not building any in the first place?

Where I currently live the Housing association imposed upon us as factors are forcing demolition of 566 structurally sound flats to be replaced with only 444 alternative minimal sized shared equity scam replacements. So they are about to reduce the number of flats available by 122 while effectively forcing us to accept minimal prices for our homes to make profit for a so-called “not for profit” company with full Government backing.

The ConDems are in the process of privatising the entire “social Housing” sector. I can prove deliberate fraud on the part of the Housing association involved in my own case, not to mention the some of the Government “executive agencies” who are also “involved”. Government policy has placed these despots effectively above the law! Guess what? Our MPs/MSPs local councillors etc are all complicit, either through their blind support of these policies or their ABSOLUTE FAILURE to properly investigate the considerable written evidence I have already provided them with which prove this blatant fraud. Now the scum want to tax us for living in 2 apartment flats. I would really like to get my hands on Cameron and his pals for a while to teach them a lesson they would never forget!

Fred Coyle
Fred Coyle
  • Derek Condon

Sorry to hear about this Derek...spreading the word about the petition. x

Fred Coyle
Fred Coyle
  • Derek Condon

Signed and shared.

Maureen Minshaw
Maureen Minshaw

why should we av to pay extra money when we already pay rent my rent is £71 already how much more money do they want rent is going up again in april at this rate we will be giving them the houses back because we carnt aford to live in them.

Lorna Keggans Gregg
Lorna Keggans Gregg
  • Maureen Minshaw

i would love to pay £71 a week in rent but cant as i cannot get a council house so pay over the odds for a house which means i cannot save enough for a deposit to buy my own house. Why am i being penalised?

Dawn Moore
Dawn Moore
  • Maureen Minshaw

If you pay your own rent you wont be affected. It is only those claiming Housing Benefit that will find they won't get all their rent paid if they have too many bedrooms for their needs/

Jim Attenborough
Jim Attenborough

After my wife was taken ill the council moved us into a 2 bedroom bungalow, I am the full-time carer for my wife day and night, but should I become unable to care for her overnight then we would have to have a sleep-in carer where is he or she supposed to stay.

Christine Wright
Christine Wright
  • Jim Attenborough

I work nights but not sleep in, and I sit in a chair , most night workers do not sleep, we ask for a comfy chair and a light to read.

Christine Wright
Christine Wright
  • Jim Attenborough

do not sit on a comode or dining room chair. and often sit in lounge. But I get what you are saying about the bedroom tax, we seem to be travelling back in time, what's next? window or door tax. people pay for "council" tax already for the size of the house. OK off to bed, really tired. night

Rachel Hewitt
Rachel Hewitt

It makes me so mad! How many of these politicians are living in 5-6 bedroom houses and not using all the bedrooms? BEDROOM TAX THEM!

Fieldhead-Hotel Looe Julian

This is a DISGRACEFUL tax. This is a direct tax on the "poor" when there is a wonderful opportunity to do an "identical" tax on those who can afford it - Second Home Tax.

The Government therefore say it is okay to have a Second Home - or as many homes as you like (I have no problem with people having second homes or as many as they like providing they pay for the privilege.) with no penalty - but you better not have a spare bedroom!

There are 710,000 vacant or second homes in this country...

This is a DISGRACEFUL tax. This is a direct tax on the "poor" when there is a wonderful opportunity to do an "identical" tax on those who can afford it - Second Home Tax.

The Government therefore say it is okay to have a Second Home - or as many homes as you like (I have no problem with people having second homes or as many as they like providing they pay for the privilege.) with no penalty - but you better not have a spare bedroom!

There are 710,000 vacant or second homes in this country when people need homes - and what do we do? Build more homes! Pathetic. Will they become vacant or Second Homes too? Is there no control over Housing?

Second Home (vacant property) Tax could raise £4,260,000,000 PER YEAR. In Cornwall alone it could raise £81,000,000.

I reckon this Bedroom Tax will be shoveled off to bed somewhere and forgotten. The trouble is, a Second Home Tax will never be discussed and I just wonder why not.

What little man sits up there in Whitehall thinking up all these stupid ideas and does not consider the real world?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/bedroom-tax-tory-lord-freud-1545677

James Haining
James Haining
  • Fieldhead-Hotel Looe Julian

And the government wants another 110,000 homes made available for the new surge of immigrants who will be coming at the end of the year when rules are relaxed mainly due to cutbacks in the border control agencies budget.

Richard McCoy
Richard McCoy

if this goes through he better pay up for all the house that he owns with spare rooms, an will the queen have to pay for all the vacant rooms in all the manors she owns?

Lars Hagman
Lars Hagman
  • Richard McCoy

Nope...only applies to those who rent from councils, private landlords and something else I can't rightly remember.

Richard McCoy
Richard McCoy
  • Richard McCoy

its shit eitherway

Deborah Hamill
Deborah Hamill

I fear we are making way for yet another influx of non british people at the expense of our own. Something has got to give. Look after our own first worry about the rest of the world later because lets be honest we are a walkover.

Stewart Mann
Stewart Mann
  • Deborah Hamill

does looking after our own include letting single people or people live in houses that are too big for them and forcing our own to live in over crowded conditions like im having too with my 3 kids in one room!

Deborah Hamill
Deborah Hamill
  • Deborah Hamill

my mum always used to say too many people in the world, well you can see what is happening here with hospitals in stafford too many people and not enough place either homes, hospitals, doctors surgeries etc., etc.. Putting the pressure on people that have lived in there houses for most of there lives who may be disabled or very old to move out seems very heartless to me. If your are going to put a bedroom tax on it should be on all houses if you want to go down that road. Hey we could...

my mum always used to say too many people in the world, well you can see what is happening here with hospitals in stafford too many people and not enough place either homes, hospitals, doctors surgeries etc., etc.. Putting the pressure on people that have lived in there houses for most of there lives who may be disabled or very old to move out seems very heartless to me. If your are going to put a bedroom tax on it should be on all houses if you want to go down that road. Hey we could commandeer a mansion or two they have lots of free bedrooms or better still compulsary purchase those houses out there sitting out there that are derelict.

Aj Lewis
Aj Lewis

I don't understand how there is such a revolt over this plan. Social Housing is for those people who need it like you did once. Now your kids have grown up and moved out why should you keep your 3 bedroom house from someone else who has young children and NEED the extra rooms? I'm right wing and I have no issues in saying so, however, my mother was in this situation too in my childhood and we were put in Social Housing, a 3 bed house for myself, my sister and my parents. I am now 24 and long...

I don't understand how there is such a revolt over this plan. Social Housing is for those people who need it like you did once. Now your kids have grown up and moved out why should you keep your 3 bedroom house from someone else who has young children and NEED the extra rooms? I'm right wing and I have no issues in saying so, however, my mother was in this situation too in my childhood and we were put in Social Housing, a 3 bed house for myself, my sister and my parents. I am now 24 and long moved out, if she was still in that 3 bedroom social house payed for by me and other taxpayers I would want her relocated to a 2 bedroom house so the 3 bed can be used to help new struggling families who are cramped in single bed apartments with 2/3 kids. It is selfish that you cannot understand this especially as you were once in the same situation. How would you feel if you and your 2 kids living in a single bed house looking at these other couples or single parents with grown up children living in 3 bed houses for the occasional visit from the children. Put them on the floor, or in a hotel do not abuse the Welfare system that you once heavily relied on!

Stewart Mann
Stewart Mann
  • Aj Lewis

We have a couple of different people in my street who are now single (partner died / family grown up and moved on) that are living in 3 bedroom houses. i understand people have grown up in there homes and been there a long time but its now time to let the younger generation grow up with there familys in houses that are suitable and not over crowded!

Karen Fitzpatrick
Karen Fitzpatrick
  • Aj Lewis

So she would still have to pay bedroom tax on the one spare bedroom if she was in a 2 bed house!

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