Julia Treehugger
Julia Treehugger

The petition asks for a place in a care home for anyone elderly who can't care for themself.....I ask also for proper care AT THEIR OWN HOME for those who'd rather stay there. Someone turning up just to throw food at you is not at all adequate and makes a care home necessary where it wouldn't be, if someone REALLY looked after their needs at home...

Peter Colin Lippman
Peter Colin Lippman
  • Julia Treehugger

i agree

Elaine Page
Elaine Page
  • Julia Treehugger

You r so right Julia - my mum had carers at home before she became so poorly she needed a residential care home. It was less than ideal. She was lucky that she 'liked' and really got on well with one of her carers - but if that girl was ill or placed elsewhere well then my mum was 'attended' by girls who did not 'care' and did as little as possible within the 1hour paid for. What the residential care home gave my mum was 24hr care and companionship through each and every day. She was lucky...

You r so right Julia - my mum had carers at home before she became so poorly she needed a residential care home. It was less than ideal. She was lucky that she 'liked' and really got on well with one of her carers - but if that girl was ill or placed elsewhere well then my mum was 'attended' by girls who did not 'care' and did as little as possible within the 1hour paid for. What the residential care home gave my mum was 24hr care and companionship through each and every day. She was lucky in that respect - but I have become very aware of the 'abuse' and 'neglect' inflicted on many of our elderly; sometimes by their own family, which for me proves that this is an important area for professional care - the emphasis being on 'care'. We must keep fighting to protect our elderly.

Julia Treehugger
Julia Treehugger
  • Julia Treehugger

I stepped in to replace "carers" who stayed no longer than 5 minutes daily and did no more than nuke a frozen ready meal in the microwave - regardless of what time of day it was, or whether John was hungry, give it to him and then BULLY him to sign the piece of paper to say they'd done an hour's work. When he refused, they would go outside and put a hand on the doorbell (loud, piercing tones) for 5 or 10 minutes and bang on the window making faces at him. various different people were sent,...

I stepped in to replace "carers" who stayed no longer than 5 minutes daily and did no more than nuke a frozen ready meal in the microwave - regardless of what time of day it was, or whether John was hungry, give it to him and then BULLY him to sign the piece of paper to say they'd done an hour's work. When he refused, they would go outside and put a hand on the doorbell (loud, piercing tones) for 5 or 10 minutes and bang on the window making faces at him. various different people were sent, but this sort of behaviour applied to ALL of them. The council official who arranged for me to be engaged instead (and paid for 15 hours a week, even when it was 24/7 when he was terminally ill) said that he, "Seemed to have been unlucky". Seemed to me nothing do with bad luck, but rather, systematic criminal negligence. I am LIVID about this! Having become involved in caring for people, I've been appalled at the contempt, disrespect and exploitation of carers, (and their clients) which, with the low pay, no travelling time or bus fare allowed for, so they are expected to teleport instantly to the next client, goes some way to explaining why such a high proportion of the people working as carers do so because they are unable to get employment in any other area, because they do not speak English or are otherwise unqualified.....My respect and acknowledgement to all caring carers to whom this does not apply....this government is proposing to reform the home-care situation in this country and apply joined-up thinking to it......it certainly NEEDS reforming.....I haven't been favourably impressed by this gov't's reforms so far.....yes; we MUST keep fighting....and caring....

Elaine Page
Elaine Page
  • Julia Treehugger

What a dreadful experience you and John have had. I know from 'others' that these 'bad' happenings are not 'rare'. It makes it more important that we complain and inform Councils and press and make as public as possible the shameful level this country has sunk to in its almost total disregard and cruelty to the elderly. Al we receive from the politicians is 'lip-service' - they are always going to do something, normally costing us the taxpayer money - when really it has to start in schools...

What a dreadful experience you and John have had. I know from 'others' that these 'bad' happenings are not 'rare'. It makes it more important that we complain and inform Councils and press and make as public as possible the shameful level this country has sunk to in its almost total disregard and cruelty to the elderly. Al we receive from the politicians is 'lip-service' - they are always going to do something, normally costing us the taxpayer money - when really it has to start in schools with discipline and caring about others. Properly 'vetting' employees too is important, a better wage too, but most important is an insight into the personality of the would be 'carer'. The best carers seem to be naturally selfless, kind-hearted and sensible folk - why then are councils employing the exact opposite type of person. At interview the 'right' questions and an informal conversation can often give a 'good' view of 'personality'. Of course the interviewer too must be trained appropriately - does not seem to happen anymore. You stand out Julia in your 'protecting' John. We need more people like yourself, ready to 'fight' for what is right. Good carers are out there and are precious to those who need them, and to their families whose circumstances (old-age, poor health, work commitments etc.) does not allow them to do the work of 'caring'. I do go on.....Sorry, so close to my heart, this issue. Thanks for your input and support. Wish you well.

Julia Treehugger
Julia Treehugger
  • Julia Treehugger

Haringey Council engages "care" agencies with whom I was completely unable to get employment, after John died....I DID try.....since then, my circumstances changed, so that I was free to look after my poorly neighbour, Brett, without having to subject myself to all the nonsense; filling out time sheets pretending I've only done 15 hours a week so that I could be paid a peanut and all that.....looking after John had made me aware of the various benefits and services available, so I knew to...

Haringey Council engages "care" agencies with whom I was completely unable to get employment, after John died....I DID try.....since then, my circumstances changed, so that I was free to look after my poorly neighbour, Brett, without having to subject myself to all the nonsense; filling out time sheets pretending I've only done 15 hours a week so that I could be paid a peanut and all that.....looking after John had made me aware of the various benefits and services available, so I knew to apply for them....they ALL require filling out forms and some of them want passport photos....Macmillan were helpful with advice (Brett had cancer)...there is TOO MUCH ADMIN required of people who are gravely ill to cope with......Haringey Council could not organise a party for alcoholics in a beer factory....one day when I arrived, Brett was in a terrible state, "They're going to stop my benefits!" He'd had a phone call he hadn't understood, because he was rather deaf and the caller had an African accent, so I rang them back. His "Personal care budget" had been closed. (This is where my 15 hours pay would have come from, so we weren't claiming it anyway....lots of beaurocracy involved...) The people I spoke to were more concerned about how "racist" we were being, than with the fact that Brett's care budget had been closed on the basis of a phone call he hadn't understood......AAAAARGHHHH!!!

Julia Treehugger
Julia Treehugger
  • Julia Treehugger

The government says it wants to introduce "joined up thinking" to the issue, which WOULD be a good idea, if that means sending someone who can run the household and is informed enough to know what to apply for.... (one of the carers sent to John was asked, by a pal who'd come round to walk the dogs, to change the bed. She was UNABLE TO PUT THE QUILT IN THE COVER! The pal had to do it for her!) Excuse me! I do go on, too!

Julia Treehugger
Julia Treehugger
  • Julia Treehugger

....If the interviewers are to be properly trained to spot a good'un and if the carers are to be trained, including to LISTEN to someone who can hardly speak, being disabled by strokes and are paid for sufficient time to do a good job, then yes, it will cost money and it will cost wages for a supervisor to monitor what they are doing and visit the clients to hear their feedback......society needs to start caring or start paying those who do....might be any of us in need, one day......

Elaine Page
Elaine Page
  • Julia Treehugger

I think money would be well spent on 'better' care for the elderly - I see the MPs have awarded themselves a rise of £20,000 per year, making their salaries £86,000 and of course they still claim 'expenses'. How dare they indulge themselves with the taxpayers money - whilst our elderly have their homes and savings confiscated by govt. to pay care home fees and workers go to charity food stores because once the 'bills' are paid there is very little cash left for food. Outrageous double standards at play.

Julia Treehugger
Julia Treehugger
  • Julia Treehugger

They have no shame and are not to be trusted. BOOOOOOO!!!

Elaine Page
Elaine Page

Hello and welcome to Wendy Malinowski - makes our number 90 (thought we would never make it) Hope u have 200 friends who will join us with this important issue which affects us all - every taxpayer in this country is open to this injustice. Protect your home, your savings and your childrens inheritance SIGN NOW.. Please pass it on to all you know. Thank you.

David Rostron
David Rostron
  • Elaine Page

My Nans still going,100 in july my other nans died recently @99.

Timmy Pugh
Timmy Pugh
  • Elaine Page

sorry to here about the death of ur nan but i hope she was not in pain

Timmy Pugh
Timmy Pugh
  • Elaine Page

and god bless the other nan and family

Elaine Page
Elaine Page
  • Elaine Page

It is a day at a time when our loved ones reach almost 100 yrs. Each day is a blessing if they still have their mobility and reasonably good health. Stay strong David - my life experiences tell me they are always looking out for you.

Maureen McManus
Maureen McManus
  • Elaine Page

David, apparently these days if you want a telegram from the Queen for a 100th birthday, you have to apply for it.

Carsen Symes
Carsen Symes

Time to unite and Care and Love each other. The young have a duty to care for the elderly. One day they too may experience being old.

Elaine Page
Elaine Page
  • Carsen Symes

The children of the elderly are now old themselves with their own set of age related illnesses - I looked after my mum with family and carers support until she was having falls and we could not assist her, her dementia worsened and she needed 24 hr care. We cannot work until we are 66 and be at home looking after our parents at the same time. The professionals have to step in at some point. Can you imagine any of our politicians working 12 hrs and then coming home to a collapsed parent or a...

The children of the elderly are now old themselves with their own set of age related illnesses - I looked after my mum with family and carers support until she was having falls and we could not assist her, her dementia worsened and she needed 24 hr care. We cannot work until we are 66 and be at home looking after our parents at the same time. The professionals have to step in at some point. Can you imagine any of our politicians working 12 hrs and then coming home to a collapsed parent or a missing parent - dealing with incontinence, broken hips, roaming abroad, a risk to themselves but sometimes to others. Will David Cameron give up his day job to look after aging parents? I am bitter - because there is free care for those whom have never contributed - the only group excluded are the taxpayers.

Joanne Romig Nilsson
Joanne Romig Nilsson

Youth is wasted on the young. When you have more dollars than sence you loose touch with the real world.

Sylvia Lessells
Sylvia Lessells
  • Joanne Romig Nilsson

Adage written by an author making no sense at all!!In hindsight maybe /not in the real world /////////////////

David Sandilands
David Sandilands

Support your cause but do not share your opinion of the BBC. To say that the BBC supports paedophiles is ridiculous and irrelevant.

Elaine Page
Elaine Page
  • David Sandilands

Thanks for your support David.

Kay Cope
Kay Cope

This government has lost the plot, it looks after every

Elaine Page
Elaine Page
  • Kay Cope

Hi Kay, there is no political agenda to this petition. This cruel injustice to our elderly has been in place for years - across every govt.,Labour, Conservative and Lib-Dems. This is about a wrong and cruel act of discrimination against the elderly taxpayer - we want that put right. All elderly should receive free care in their old-age, if and when they require it, hence Care of the Elderly - without bias. I hope u have signed - we need the support of everyone, in order that future generations will receive free care.

Ed Gordon
Ed Gordon

I would love to sign, having shared this already on FB. When I tried to sign just now, a FB pop-up sought permission to use my personal details, AND those of my friends, I declined. This seems to prevent me from completing the signing process. Any advice?
From Ed. Gordon in Plymouth, England.

Elaine Page
Elaine Page
  • Ed Gordon

Sorry Ed we must all commit with our details - it hurt me too as I value my 'privacy' however this issue was too important. The only consolation is that you are in good company - the passion about 'what is important' over-rides self. I do hope you and your friends can join us.

Carole Mann
Carole Mann

We work hard through our lives and pay our taxes and national insurance what happens to all pension money when someone dies just after retirement certainly don't go to surviving spouse so lets treat our elderly with respect and stop these money grabbing governments , Carole.

Paul Rance
Paul Rance

My Mother should have had all her care home fees paid for as she was terminally ill and was disabled, but she was listed as having social needs only and not care needs. I've written about the scandal in my book 'Mother Becomes Stardust'. If anyone still thinks Britain is a caring country, think again.

Scott Richards
Scott Richards

The reason the govenment are going after parents and elderly monies. The banks have bankrupt this coutry. So usual action fromconcervative govenmet. Is get from every day working poeple. I am 62. All i have they will try to take it. Dought it. . My children wont see my assets go to cover. Banks bail out. Sorry for the rant.

Elaine Page
Elaine Page
  • Scott Richards

This theft of our elderly taxpayers homes and savings has been enforced by Labour and Conservative govts. There is no political agenda here, our govts (ALL) are morally bereft - this is about doing what is right by the frail and elderly - our most vulnerable yet most worthy citizens - having worked and paid their taxes all of their lives are being cruelly discriminated against by govts. past and present.

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