Ruth Strzelecki
Ruth Strzelecki

I hesitate to sign this-there are not enough details here. For one, I wonder if you would mean that kids must do a mandatory prayer out loud with others who may be of a different faith, or several different faiths. Or would you have one religion at a time, have a prayer. This could get clique-ish too. I believe in fairness to all, a certain amount of minutes could be observed at the school as a moment of silence to connect with whom/whatever is your personal divine guidance. I think in the...

I hesitate to sign this-there are not enough details here. For one, I wonder if you would mean that kids must do a mandatory prayer out loud with others who may be of a different faith, or several different faiths. Or would you have one religion at a time, have a prayer. This could get clique-ish too. I believe in fairness to all, a certain amount of minutes could be observed at the school as a moment of silence to connect with whom/whatever is your personal divine guidance. I think in the 70's one school I went to did this practice, and though we were of different faiths-the ultimate energy was still very eclectic and beautiful for everyone. The school could have a bulletin board maybe, where kids could find out about classes, ceremonies, masses, that they want to learn more about, to join others in fellowships if they want to. kids find ways to sign up for sports, bands, other groups, this does not really need to be different. maybe subsitute for an elective, instead of oh, study hall, or typing, something like that. But forcing any religion down somebodys throat is a sure way to get rebellion.

Olivia Williams
Olivia Williams
  • Ruth Strzelecki

And how many Gods are there?

Jonathon Jennings
Jonathon Jennings
  • Olivia Williams

1

Olivia Williams
Olivia Williams
  • Ruth Strzelecki

When they did pray in school, there was a moment of silence and each individual prayed silently the way they wanted to pray or if they chose not to have that moment of reflection no one was forced to do anything. We don't have a problem with everyone saluting a flag as if it were God, which could be looked upon as border line idolatry. This is a lost nation. We need to think!!

Ruth Strzelecki
Ruth Strzelecki
  • Ruth Strzelecki

I really don't know how many Gods there were, because it was a silent prayer time. Buddah, Allah, St. Christopher, Jesus...it was unlimited. and nobody was required to state or explain what they were thinking about.

Shirley Casao
Shirley Casao
  • Ruth Strzelecki

Take time to pray.... It is the greatest power on earth!

Ruth Strzelecki
Ruth Strzelecki
  • Ruth Strzelecki

yes mam

Thomas Therealpage Bass
Thomas Therealpage Bass
  • Ruth Strzelecki

IF, MY PEOPLE. WHO ARE CALLED BY MY NAME, WOULD TURN FROM THERE WICKED WAYS.... AND PRAY I,WILL HEAL THE LAND......

Patricia Archer
Patricia Archer
  • Ruth Strzelecki

The USA is supposed to be a free nation. I think each child should be able to pray to their families religion. A moment of silence for prayer in the schools should be permitted.

Mary Wall
Mary Wall
  • Ruth Strzelecki

Did you read whar this man Thomas just said? This is the only way it will be saved. Thank you Thomas.

Jean Taylor
Jean Taylor
  • Ruth Strzelecki

When I was in grade school prayers and scripture was read & spoken across the PA System for our morning devotions.

Jean Taylor
Jean Taylor
  • Ruth Strzelecki

Devotional morning exercize was acceptable! They were something all classes looked forward to. Children were happier getting their day started that way! I never saw any dismay or uncomfortable feelings brought out by anybody from having a simple morning devotion! Let the devils in and prayer goes out the window; (along with the serinity that accompanies prayer and verses.) When they go, sanity goes, when sanity goes, then hate comes in, mean spirits erupt, fear comes in taking away...

Devotional morning exercize was acceptable! They were something all classes looked forward to. Children were happier getting their day started that way! I never saw any dismay or uncomfortable feelings brought out by anybody from having a simple morning devotion! Let the devils in and prayer goes out the window; (along with the serinity that accompanies prayer and verses.) When they go, sanity goes, when sanity goes, then hate comes in, mean spirits erupt, fear comes in taking away everything good and meaningful in lives of daily living. Without it, there is emptiness! Children crave what comes natural, being drawn to God's will, His cause, and to His Way. Acts of devotion to Him in morning hours makes each day a better one, not only for the student but for teachers, administrators, office workers, the food department, maintenance, and all personal plus parents who help teachers and teachers' aides. Everyone benefits so how dare others rise up and say things like 'Jesus no good' kidding or no; that is like laughing in Father God's face, that is intimidating to a Christian and the believer! America is being tried but we are very true to our values as Christian America!

Ruth Strzelecki
Ruth Strzelecki
  • Ruth Strzelecki

I feel that it is unhealthy to be afraid of things getting worse, and unhealthy to have fear of bad things happening. Fear is opposite of FAITH. Fear causes people to have faith that bad things are going to happen. Faith that things are going to be fine, and wonderful, is FAITH in GOD. GOOD.

Dottie Sims
Dottie Sims
  • Ruth Strzelecki

I don't believe that your perception is accurate. The only people that will fear is those who don't have a relationship with God. To know God is to trust God. We of FAITH have nothing to fear but fear itself. I only fear God himself because I know that if I don't live according to his word. THEN and only THEN should I be afraid.

Lynne Mossman
Lynne Mossman
  • Ruth Strzelecki

I agree Dottie and when I was a kid we say a prayer and pledge allegiance and all of us were fine. It made us better people We came together in the class room. I have respect for all religions and how other people practice their faith and they too should be giving a time to do whatever it is they do in their faith while the Catholic children pray

Lynne Mossman
Lynne Mossman
  • Ruth Strzelecki

So much is the taken away in our schools that I don't agree with and was upset when they happened. One nation under God ! It seems that as religion is taking out by government our nation becomes weakness. Society has been weakness in socail structure and kids r going wild, violence between peers has gone up. Just my opinion!

Mary Wells
Mary Wells
  • Ruth Strzelecki

children and adults should have the right to pray in school if they want to.freedom of religion is one of the things the united states was founded on!

Dyla Liles
Dyla Liles
  • Ruth Strzelecki

I agree with you - it doesn't matter what religion. Just bring it back.

Ruth Strzelecki
Ruth Strzelecki
  • Ruth Strzelecki

THANKS!!!

Brenda Mouton
Brenda Mouton
  • Ruth Strzelecki

Prayer conquers all!! When Prayer was taken out of School, this world went down hill!! I agree totally, AMEN!!!

Kim Sain
Kim Sain
  • Ruth Strzelecki

We need God back in schools that's when we lost control of our children

Ruth Strzelecki
Ruth Strzelecki
  • Ruth Strzelecki

thank you!!!

Ed McPhee
Ed McPhee
  • Ruth Strzelecki

How can we raise our children without prayer. I believe that this would bring peace and harmony to the children. I pray that God will give all of us the strength to carry on

Clifford Wright
Clifford Wright

Prayer in schools is essential to the future of our students.

Tony Haynes
Tony Haynes
  • Clifford Wright

is this a basic all inclusive prayer or a christian, muslim, hindu, jewish, ba'hai, buddhist, islamic prayer, etc?

Clifford Wright
Clifford Wright
  • Clifford Wright

Christian.

Jimmy Stull
Jimmy Stull
  • Clifford Wright

Well that's tolerant of others beliefs. Forcing your own on non-Christians? This is the land of the free, which was founded on religious freedom.

Clifford Wright
Clifford Wright
  • Clifford Wright

No comment

Clifford Wright
Clifford Wright
  • Clifford Wright

I made the no comment to an individual whose comment I removed. I can validate my statement, but choose not to. I am not here to argue back and forth. I only want to encourage people with my comments. I hope you understand.

Datuk Kelantan
Datuk Kelantan
  • Clifford Wright

Pray to which god ? If Allah im ok .. Jesus no good ( just being sarcastic )

Jean Taylor
Jean Taylor
  • Clifford Wright

America is being tried but we are very true to our values as Christian America!

Donna Kehres
Donna Kehres
  • Clifford Wright

It is good to have faith and it should be taught in schools!

Vancey Herrmann
Vancey Herrmann
  • Clifford Wright

GOD IS THE REASON WE ARE HERE.

Chase Reasoner
Chase Reasoner
  • Clifford Wright

Lol, the amount of ignorance in this post is astounding. You might as well be saying "Everyone needs to be christian because I'm uneducated white trash and my opinion is valid!".

Shaun Hansen
Shaun Hansen

putting prayer back in school would allow all faiths to pray. the muslim children would be able to pray at their respected times and the christians would be able to pray also. There is no conflict with church and state if all faiths are able to pray to their respective gods.

Galen Muhammad
Galen Muhammad
  • Shaun Hansen

Shaun Hansen:

Just an FYI -- Jews, Christians & Muslims pray to the same GOD. They just call him by different names and have different theologies. A god is something man has exalted, in his/her own mind, over God.

Galen Muhammad
Galen Muhammad
  • Shaun Hansen

Brian Lake:

No....not "pissed off", but I do have a question. Why is it generally assumed that those who believe in God supposedly don't believe in science? What's the basis for making that assumption about people you obviously don't know? That's kinda funny....given that my wife's a high school Science teacher....and a Muslim!!

NOTE: most aren't advocating that others have to stop learning. There is another petition (being pushed by an obvious Islamaphobe) complaining about a group of...

Brian Lake:

No....not "pissed off", but I do have a question. Why is it generally assumed that those who believe in God supposedly don't believe in science? What's the basis for making that assumption about people you obviously don't know? That's kinda funny....given that my wife's a high school Science teacher....and a Muslim!!

NOTE: most aren't advocating that others have to stop learning. There is another petition (being pushed by an obvious Islamaphobe) complaining about a group of Muslim students who are allowed to leave their respective classes, pray in an otherwise empty room and return to class (which may take all of 15 minutes). That affects no one in the school but those Muslim students. So, I think you're overreacting.

Btw, Muslims to "bow to the qibla". I'm actually kinda impressed you're that close! :) We actually bow & prostrate to Allah/God in the direction of the Kaaba (which is called qibla). Since fajr is done well before sunrise and asr is done near or after the end of the school day, there's only ONE prayer where Muslim students would need to be excused from class for that ~15 minutes: zduhr (just after noon). They might even be on their lunch period at that time!

Since we're not promoting school-sponsored/school-promoted religion in that circumstance, you seem to be confused. There's no one "teaching faith and belief" in the public school, but that doesn't mean that students have to "leave their faiths at that front door". Those subjects (and more) ARE being taught in the schools.

In the meantime, for those who want to participate, they can pray whenever they feel like it. Just don't force your beliefs onto others. It's NOT the moral thing to do!

Galen Muhammad
Galen Muhammad
  • Shaun Hansen

Brian Lake:

Ok. I toned-down my verbiage. Again, I was only giving minor correction.

By the way, as I understand it, teachers aren't releasing high percentages of their class to attend the 2nd prayer and I see it no more "separatists" as when the Christians are praying during the moment of silence while the Muslims and others aren't praying. In Islam, as it is supposed to be practiced, there is no racism, no superiority/inferiority of races.

Loretta Tiberi
Loretta Tiberi

When I was in elementary school, we had bible reading, prayer, and the pledge allegiance to the flag at the beginning of every day. Nobody was forced. Anybody who wished not to participate was free to do so. This practice should be put back into the schools.

Galen Muhammad
Galen Muhammad
  • Loretta Tiberi

Loretta Tiberi:

No, it shouldn't....unless you're also advocating introducing the reading of ALL religions' texts.....and there's not enough time in a school day to institute such a practice!

In the public arena in the USA, we do not hold any one religion above any other. If you want to hold Christianity above other religions, you & your overzealous klan go find one of those the deserted islands and form your own country.

THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!! DON'T GET IT TWISTED!!
:/

Debbie Ptak
Debbie Ptak
  • Loretta Tiberi

Then how come schools allow muslims to pray?in one school they ask that they be allowed to pray because they have to pray with is it 5 times a day(not sure).so how come we as christians cant have prayer in scools? oh and by the way america was founded on christian princibles no matter what pres. obama said about this not being a christian country.I aws born and raised here i do not have to go to a deserted island and start my own country.Yes we have freedom of religion here.If we were in a...

Then how come schools allow muslims to pray?in one school they ask that they be allowed to pray because they have to pray with is it 5 times a day(not sure).so how come we as christians cant have prayer in scools? oh and by the way america was founded on christian princibles no matter what pres. obama said about this not being a christian country.I aws born and raised here i do not have to go to a deserted island and start my own country.Yes we have freedom of religion here.If we were in a muslim country we would be killed for being christians.see we do not do that to muslims. GOD BLESS YOU

Carol Dickinson
Carol Dickinson

I signed the Petition... but I hope that the prayer will not be a generic one that fits any god. It truly and honestly has to be addressed to our Heavenly Father in the name of His Son Jesus Christ... else it is falsehood and idolitry. Please keep the Prayers centered on praying to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob the God of Israel... in the name of Jesus Christ. Thank you. May the Love of Christ richly abound in you all always. May God bless you with His eternal and Holy presence... His...

I signed the Petition... but I hope that the prayer will not be a generic one that fits any god. It truly and honestly has to be addressed to our Heavenly Father in the name of His Son Jesus Christ... else it is falsehood and idolitry. Please keep the Prayers centered on praying to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob the God of Israel... in the name of Jesus Christ. Thank you. May the Love of Christ richly abound in you all always. May God bless you with His eternal and Holy presence... His Holy Spirit... in all that you say, do and think. Continue walking in holiness that you may please God for Jesus has told us..."If you love me you will follow my commands."

Much Love through the mercy of Christ,
Carol

Galen Muhammad
Galen Muhammad
  • Carol Dickinson

Carol Dickinson:

Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!

Though I've BEEN vindicate for sounding the alarm on the latent agenda of this petition and many of its supporters, you're just one of the latest to make it plain that the goal is to promote Christianity over other religions in the public school, ignoring the fact that not everybody is a Christian!!

Then you're so callous to not have any concern about them and their belief, though their beliefs may be their moral guidance causing them to...

Carol Dickinson:

Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!

Though I've BEEN vindicate for sounding the alarm on the latent agenda of this petition and many of its supporters, you're just one of the latest to make it plain that the goal is to promote Christianity over other religions in the public school, ignoring the fact that not everybody is a Christian!!

Then you're so callous to not have any concern about them and their belief, though their beliefs may be their moral guidance causing them to be upstanding role models at school and their communities.

Considering the high levels of ignorance that I know exists about Islam by the general American, I'm willing to say that most Christian Americans are only familiar with their faith and their faith ALONE.

No one here who's not a Christian cares for your ignorance and disrespect of that in which you have NO KNOWLEDGE!! Funny that you own an online business and talking trash about others' faith. How much business have you lost by running off at the mouth?

Keep your bigotry to yourself.

Carol Dickinson
Carol Dickinson
  • Carol Dickinson

Muhammad... this is a Christian nation founded by Christian principles found in God's Word the Holy Bible. These freedoms you so enjoy here are here because of these same holy principles. Our laws... our constitution... our Bill of rights... were all written by Christians.

No nation is perfect. Slavery, abortion, homosexuality, adultery and other sins we have committed her in America stop. Slavery has stoped praise God... but it is still going on in Islamic nations such as the Sudan and...

Muhammad... this is a Christian nation founded by Christian principles found in God's Word the Holy Bible. These freedoms you so enjoy here are here because of these same holy principles. Our laws... our constitution... our Bill of rights... were all written by Christians.

No nation is perfect. Slavery, abortion, homosexuality, adultery and other sins we have committed her in America stop. Slavery has stoped praise God... but it is still going on in Islamic nations such as the Sudan and many other Islamic nations that think it is ok to stab your own wife or daughter in the heart if you suspect them of messing around... it is called "mercy killing.. remember. Not to mention all the horrors of Islamic based nations where freedoms are removed and you are either killed or imprisoned for leaving Islam and becoming a Christian (and by the way this is in your Quran) or by not being as religious as someone else.

Islam shows no mercy. Is this why you live here... because we have the freedom you so freely enjoy. Go live in an Islamic nation ruling with sharia law... I dare you... then you can email me... and tell me I am a bigot.

Killing your fellow citizens as in Syria and many other Islamic nations do regularly with their despot power hungry leaders... is this your idea of an ideal nation to live in... if so... then you are welcome to move their. But in the meantime enjoy the foundations our Christian fathers laid down for us.

Alex Wallar
Alex Wallar

I am tired of ranting and trying to teach the ignorant few (many in this case) about how God can be expressed with equality and understanding, but I cannot get over how uneducated some of you adults are. One must understand that as humans, we are sewn with the same moral fiber and will conform to societal ethics and we all need to stop pushing religion upon one another. God gave us, as humans, free will. So one will choose to believe or one will choose not to believe, but just let the person...

I am tired of ranting and trying to teach the ignorant few (many in this case) about how God can be expressed with equality and understanding, but I cannot get over how uneducated some of you adults are. One must understand that as humans, we are sewn with the same moral fiber and will conform to societal ethics and we all need to stop pushing religion upon one another. God gave us, as humans, free will. So one will choose to believe or one will choose not to believe, but just let the person make their choice. Also, I will just drop this knowledge bomb on everybody: CHILDREN ARE ALLOWED TO PRAY IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS! Most schools have a moment of silence in the beginning of the day in which, if one is so inclined, one is able to pray. I would pray during the moment of silence, whilst walking down the halls, when I got a bad grade, and nobody ever stopped me. And all of these arguments about how Muslims get to pray and Christians do not is just nonsense. I can assure the reader that if Christians had to face a certain direction and get on their knees to pray, nobody would stop them. Hell, if you guys want, I will go to a public school, I will get my rosary out in the middle of class, and I will pray. Nobody will stop me. Prayer is a very personal thing, it is the church that exists between a human and their creator. It is not something to be forced either in church, at home, or at school. But since I am neither a priest nor a parent, I will not try and force my ideas upon you in your domain, but school is my domain as a student and I can tell you that one is free to pursue their thoughts without persecution whether these are simply thoughts about the day or a conversation with God.

Galen Muhammad
Galen Muhammad
  • Alex Wallar

Alex Wallar:

Some people don't want to be educated.

They prefer to be treated like mushrooms. Kept in the dark and fed a lot of .....feces/horse manure/crap....!

Is that clean enough?

Yvonne Floyd
Yvonne Floyd
  • Alex Wallar

GALEN .....WHAT in the F**K is that supposed to mean???? SORRY I've NEVER met or encountered ANYONE that wants to be treated that way??!!! Apparently, in your anti-american world there is people like that???

Alex Wallar
Alex Wallar
  • Alex Wallar

Yvonne, being against religion does not mean that somebody is anti-american. Remember that the American government was not formed as a theocracy.

Also, Galen has made quite a nice metaphor. He represents religion pushing people as mushrooms that grow in the dark, representing inability some have about learning of new ideas. He also compares crap to religious teachings, and that these "mushrooms" rather be "fed" it than learn something new or change their opinion.

Terri Keeton Pipkin
Terri Keeton Pipkin

We need God and Prayer back in our schools!

Brianna Garcia
Brianna Garcia
  • Terri Keeton Pipkin

NO WE DON'T.

Nancy Miller
Nancy Miller
  • Terri Keeton Pipkin

YES WE DO AND THIS IS THE U. S. WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS QUIT LETTING OTHER NATIONALITIES MAKE DECISIONS FOR AMERICANS. ALL OTHER RELIGIONS COME TO THIS COUNTRY AND HAVE RIGHTS BUT THAT IS NEVER ENOUGH FOR YOU PEOPLE. IF YOU DON'T LIKE OUR TRADITIONS. BUILD YOUR OWN SCHOOL OR LEAVE OR HAVE A CHOICE TO ACCEPT AMERICA FOR WHAT IT IS. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THE KILLING IF WE WENT TO ANOTHER COUNTRY AND TRIED TO FORCE THEM TO TAKE THEIR RELIGIOUS VIEWS OUT OF THE SCHOOLS.

Ray Weber
Ray Weber

the founding fathers always looked to God, not necessarily in school but with political situations aslo. yes children were allowed to pray in schools, we had our moment of silence, were allowed to bring our bibles to scool, and had a lot less violence in our world. but guess what? we took all of this our of our systems, including schools and we have more violence! when are we going to wake up? and all the diffrent religions? we did not let that stand in our way back then either....we have...

the founding fathers always looked to God, not necessarily in school but with political situations aslo. yes children were allowed to pray in schools, we had our moment of silence, were allowed to bring our bibles to scool, and had a lot less violence in our world. but guess what? we took all of this our of our systems, including schools and we have more violence! when are we going to wake up? and all the diffrent religions? we did not let that stand in our way back then either....we have lost our morals! do we want them back? and bring back the pledge of alegiance to our flag....we are americans, right?

Brianna Garcia
Brianna Garcia
  • Ray Weber

No they didn't. The founding fathers wanted god(s) far away from our rights/schools/government. You can still pray in school, why mandate it? Its ridiculous. Americas school system sucks enough. Why waste time talking to yourself? It's pointless. Praying to a desert sky god who has damned all humanity for the first rib-woman eating a forbidden apple a talking snake told her to eat less than 48hours of being alive.. I mean, really? THE WHOLE THING IS GARBAGE, ITS A MYTH! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbcBpIxY4do

Galen Muhammad
Galen Muhammad
  • Ray Weber

Brianna Garcia:

Basically, people are starting to ignore your nonsense (yeah...it's ONE WORD).

Kathy Szuch Schwab
Kathy Szuch Schwab
  • Ray Weber

In the days of our founding and all the way though the 1800's, pastors and ministers taught in schools, our universities were all under Christianity. GOD was close to everyone and to state other wise, is to state falsehoods. Brianna is speaking through the mouth of the devil, voicing lies and falsehoods along with not knowing the Truth through American History (and not through the revised progressive history which has always lost through out all of history no matter what name they have used).

Shari Rosier
Shari Rosier

This country was founded by Godly people. You can have the right to not pray - but it should be encouraged! WE NEED GOD! USA = RIP.

Brianna Garcia
Brianna Garcia
  • Shari Rosier

No it wasn't. OMG IDIOT. The founding father's were ADIMIT about separating church & state. "I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life, I absenteed myself from Christian assemblies."- BENJAMIN MOTHA FUCKIN FRANKLIN <3

Brianna Garcia
Brianna Garcia
  • Shari Rosier

On your prayer bit: "He (the Rev. Mr. Whitefield) used, indeed, sometimes to pray for my conversion, but never had the satisfaction of believing that his prayers were heard." Franklin's Autobiography

Edie Derringer-Ellison
Edie Derringer-Ellison
  • Shari Rosier

Separation of church and State was so that the government would not mandate a certain religion over another! But make no mistake about it, this country was founded on God. That is one reason we have prospered. It is exactly that reason of taking God out of school, off of money, out of the courts etc that will be our downfall! Just like you have a right to NOT pray, Christians should have the right TO PRAY!!!'n. The founding fathers put God's name on everything and they put God's name...

Separation of church and State was so that the government would not mandate a certain religion over another! But make no mistake about it, this country was founded on God. That is one reason we have prospered. It is exactly that reason of taking God out of school, off of money, out of the courts etc that will be our downfall! Just like you have a right to NOT pray, Christians should have the right TO PRAY!!!'n. The founding fathers put God's name on everything and they put God's name there for a reason - We just want the right to pray where we feel we need it the most.!!!! With all the violence in school, prayer is needed! That's what we want- To pray when we need God's protection and help!

Dwayne Ferguson
Dwayne Ferguson

Have read alot of crazy comments on this. It is really rather simple : America was created "IN GOD WE TRUST" if that is not to your liking there are plenty of other places to live.

Nancy Miller
Nancy Miller
  • Dwayne Ferguson

Amen to that, wonder what Brianna's reply will be.

Jacquie Les
Jacquie Les
  • Dwayne Ferguson

Yes it was but the key word is "GOD" not In" Jesus we trust" there are many Gods in the world. This presents a problem.

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