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Luke Collins
Luke Collins

its entertainment for humans NOT for the poor animals involved!

Viki Tucker
Viki Tucker
  • Luke Collins

I believe I misread your comment. First, I thought you were condoning entertainment of this sort for humans . . . but on second reading, I do believe you're sympathetic to the "poor animals".

Alvina Ropata Edwards
Alvina Ropata Edwards
  • Luke Collins

Thanks Viki I believe Luke is on our side thanks heaps

Anna Chrzanowski
Anna Chrzanowski

People are so mean I cant stand it.ANIMAL ABUSE I really HATE, HATE, HATE so much.I feel VERY, VERY, VERY and I mean very upset that people do this to animals and just leave them there and suffer and then die.This makes me VERY upset.

Carla Bryan Beardshaw
Carla Bryan Beardshaw
  • Anna Chrzanowski

I feel exactly the same!

Anna Chrzanowski
Anna Chrzanowski
  • Anna Chrzanowski

I know

Fraser Halley
Fraser Halley

why don't you people spend your time setting up partitions against all the child abuse and murders of our little ones instead?

Alvina Ropata Edwards
Alvina Ropata Edwards
  • Fraser Halley

The name of our group is the NZ Anti-Rodeo Coalition, which should signal to you that our focus is on rodeo. That is what we are fighting and we are determined to see rodeo banned in New Zealand. If you believe in petitioning against child abuse then I applaud you for that, so keep us updated with your strategies for this.

Felicita Soto
Felicita Soto
  • Fraser Halley

mr. fraser must have a closed mind lets leave him grow a little...

Fraser Halley
Fraser Halley

so are you going to ban horse racing as well?

Kim Martins
Kim Martins
  • Fraser Halley

Fraser: rodeo is by its very nature inherently cruel. That is why we are fighting to BAN rodeo. Horse racing is not necessarily cruel although...there are many horse races that are. The Palio, which is held in Siena, Italy, is one of those races. There is a petition going now to stop the Palio - you might wish to read up on just how cruel this horse race can be. Then sign the petition. http://www.occupyforanimals.org/horse-races-in-italy.html

Kim Martins
Kim Martins
  • Fraser Halley

Fraser: perhaps you'd like to go off and hassle some other site. Your questions are pointless and you are showing yourself to be a bit of an idiot I'm afraid. Your time would be better spent if YOU took up the causes you mention, whilst we remain determined to ban the rodeo in NZ.

Shaun Spencer
Shaun Spencer

I had no idea this happened in New Zealand, I can save a lot of money by never visiting the country now.

Alvina Ropata Edwards
Alvina Ropata Edwards
  • Shaun Spencer

Shaun thank you but come and visit anyways

Kim Martins
Kim Martins
  • Shaun Spencer

Shaun It's a great country with wonderful people. I moved here from Australia. Unfortunately, NZ's reputation is being tarnished by an inhumane practice known as rodeo.

Liz Anderson
Liz Anderson

Just sent an email to Hamilton Council - used bits of your letter and added in bits of mine. :)

Alvina Ropata Edwards
Alvina Ropata Edwards
  • Liz Anderson

Thank you my letter is just a sample and start you are brilliant

Jill Latham
Jill Latham
  • Liz Anderson

Thanks from me too Liz

Liz Anderson
Liz Anderson

Just had a reply from Julie Hardaker. She sounds quite hurt! Here it is, with my email underneath:
Dear Liz

Thank you for your email.

I do not personally support rodeos and have publically stated that many times.

I am very disappointed that your email misrepresents my personal view on this and that you did not contact me to ask my view.

I am also disappointed that the petition link you have included in your email has not clarified my views on rodeos when they are well known.

Pleas...

Just had a reply from Julie Hardaker. She sounds quite hurt! Here it is, with my email underneath:
Dear Liz

Thank you for your email.

I do not personally support rodeos and have publically stated that many times.

I am very disappointed that your email misrepresents my personal view on this and that you did not contact me to ask my view.

I am also disappointed that the petition link you have included in your email has not clarified my views on rodeos when they are well known.

Please also note that clause 4 of the Council’s policy states that the approval of an event does not imply that Council endorses the event or its organisers. The approval only implies that Council endorses that the event can be held at a Council owned and or operated facility.

I suggest you lobby your local MPs about a law change from government and you submit on the current review that the government is undertaking – please see the following link.

http://www.biosecurity.govt.nz/media/12-10-2012/code-welfare-rodeo-consultation

Julie Hardaker
Mayor
Hamilton City Council.
Private Bag 3010 Hamilton 3240.
New Zealand
Phone 07 838 6976.
Fax 07 838 6979.

Website www.hamilton.co.nz.

From: Liz Anderson.
Sent: Monday, 22 October 2012 1:24 PM.

To: Julie Hardaker; Dave Macpherson; Roger Hennebry; Angela O'Leary; Daphne Bell; Ewan Wilson; Gordon Chesterman; John Gower; Margaret Forsyth; Maria Westphal; Martin Gallagher; Peter Bos; Pippa Mahood.
Subject: INDOOR RODEO AT CLAUDELANDS ARENA, HAMILTON.

To the Mayor and Councillors of Hamilton.

I am at a loss to comprehend how, in this day and age, anyone can condone this type of animal cruelty. New Zealand, and Hamilton in particular, is being portrayed as Third World with regard to its attitude towards animals. The petition against this awful spectacle has now gone global and we are having responses from many countries.

http://links.causes.com/s/clEmcf?r=ETJ3

Now would be a good time to think hard (and fast) about the image of this country that you are depicting by allowing the rodeo at Claudelands Arena to take place.

To torture (and yes, it is torture) any animal in the name of 'entertainment' is abhorrent to most normal people... in every society we will find animal abusers, but the majority of folk have no time for them. Yet Hamilton's Council is giving the green light to cause fear, confusion, injury and, in some cases, death to horses and cattle - and market this as 'family entertainment'. What does this teach our children and young people? That animals are there to be abused.

One last question: how can Julie Hardaker, Mayor of Hamilton, sit on the Board of the Waikato SPCA and support such an event? It would appear that choices need to made.

Liz Anderson

Alvina Ropata Edwards
Alvina Ropata Edwards
  • Liz Anderson

We are all getting the same but some more than others its ok Liz this is being doubt with; this petition is directed at the Mayor of this city as a leader of this city and the Councillors - just breath as we have to and keep the good support going-

Liz Anderson
Liz Anderson
  • Liz Anderson

Alvina Ropata Edwards Oh, I'm not at all bothered, Alvina - I'm going to reply to them tomorrow, particularly to 'Gordon' :)

Alvina Ropata Edwards
Alvina Ropata Edwards
  • Liz Anderson

good on you Liz we will be releasing some interesting communications later - thank you for your support

Cheyenne Melsom Eyre
Cheyenne Melsom Eyre

This is horrid. How can we justify hurting other beings for our amusement? You simply can't. All it takes is a few clicks and we can make a difference. Like the starfish story.

Cheyenne Melsom Eyre
Cheyenne Melsom Eyre
  • Cheyenne Melsom Eyre

Today my American sweetheart Darcie told me the "sweetest" story...

"A father and son were at the beach and 100's of starfish had washed ashore.
The boy started picking the creatures up one by one and putting them back in the ocean.
The father said to the son "why are you doing that? You're not going to make a difference there's to many.
The boy smiled at his dad, picked up another starfish and gently put it back in the ocean replying sweetly "There! I made a difference to that one" ... Nawwww <3 gentle reminder.... One step at a time. X

Daryl Silcock
Daryl Silcock
  • Cheyenne Melsom Eyre

Love it!! Every little bit counts...

Rebecca Dreller
Rebecca Dreller
  • Cheyenne Melsom Eyre

Beautiful philospohy. If we have the ability to help, then we also have the responsibility to do so. Helping one at a time, is better than looking the other way and not helping at all. Well said, Cheyenne. Hugs to all who help :)

Jan Fairhurst
Jan Fairhurst

You people are soo removed from the reallity of this or any other sport involving animals.
The bucking horses have flank ropes to encourage them to buck and many of these animals are left to graze freely except for the 2 or 3 days a year they are asked to perform.
Most of these horses would have been slaughtered if not for life as rodeo horses.
as for the people who compete, the stock and their own horses are well looked after and cared for exceptionly well they certainly love and respect...

You people are soo removed from the reallity of this or any other sport involving animals.
The bucking horses have flank ropes to encourage them to buck and many of these animals are left to graze freely except for the 2 or 3 days a year they are asked to perform.
Most of these horses would have been slaughtered if not for life as rodeo horses.
as for the people who compete, the stock and their own horses are well looked after and cared for exceptionly well they certainly love and respect their animals as do all who compete at a high level.
If every body respected each other and their animals as well as most rodeo people the world would be a much better place.

Kim Martins
Kim Martins
  • Jan Fairhurst

Jan whilst everyone on this site respects your right to your opinion, we don't agree with you. There is far too much evidence to suggest that rodeos are inhumane and a violent spectacle that your children and those of others should not be exposed to. Aside from this, do you hear what you are saying? The horses have flank ropes that encourage them to buck but are then left to graze freely. What the? The flank ropes are pulled tightly over the genital area, causing the horse to buck. The...

Jan whilst everyone on this site respects your right to your opinion, we don't agree with you. There is far too much evidence to suggest that rodeos are inhumane and a violent spectacle that your children and those of others should not be exposed to. Aside from this, do you hear what you are saying? The horses have flank ropes that encourage them to buck but are then left to graze freely. What the? The flank ropes are pulled tightly over the genital area, causing the horse to buck. The argument that rodeo animals are well-looked after outside of rodeos is (frankly) rubbish. During a rodeo, with lots of cheering people, pyrotechnics and so on - the animals are fearful and this fear and trepidation remains with them. Next time you attend a "fun day out for the whole family", look very carefully into the eyes of the animals. Before you do that, spend some time on this and educate yourself. Lastly, if rodeo people respected animals, there would be no rodeos happening.

Alvina Ropata Edwards
Alvina Ropata Edwards
  • Jan Fairhurst

We are living with this reality - I would have to assume Jan that you are involved with rodeo? so you would be promoting what you consider the wellness of such an event; we consider all aspects of the Indoor rodeo - and we also take into account the global response to such abuse- I for one would prefer to listen to the many experts with authority than someone that is so involved and needs to justify this type of animal abuse- PERFORM for who? and only 2-3 days of the year - so no training...

We are living with this reality - I would have to assume Jan that you are involved with rodeo? so you would be promoting what you consider the wellness of such an event; we consider all aspects of the Indoor rodeo - and we also take into account the global response to such abuse- I for one would prefer to listen to the many experts with authority than someone that is so involved and needs to justify this type of animal abuse- PERFORM for who? and only 2-3 days of the year - so no training just use them wild? MAN V BEAST I suppose- and as far as they would have been slaughtered - so we have rodeo abusers to thank for saving the life's of many unwanted horses - rather deluded & bizarre- Jan we should actually follow other countries such as the UK where it is banned.

Rebecca Dreller
Rebecca Dreller
  • Jan Fairhurst

Interesting. So you have the whole "they would go to slaughter anyways" perspective. Sad. That's like saying child sex slaves should be thankful they have a job and are making money because otherwise they would just be homeless orphans. And yes, I can most certainly compare the two. Children cannot speak for themselves, neither can animals. So it is up to us, the able bodied adults to show compassion and be the voice for those who have none of their own, and to defend the defenseless. Jan,...

Interesting. So you have the whole "they would go to slaughter anyways" perspective. Sad. That's like saying child sex slaves should be thankful they have a job and are making money because otherwise they would just be homeless orphans. And yes, I can most certainly compare the two. Children cannot speak for themselves, neither can animals. So it is up to us, the able bodied adults to show compassion and be the voice for those who have none of their own, and to defend the defenseless. Jan, it is NEVER, EVER, EVER, OK to exploit ANY being who cannot help themselves or speak for themselves. Please re-think your cold hearted philosophy. Please.

Kim Martins
Kim Martins

THANK YOU to SAFE for sharing the link to this petition on their website https://www.facebook.com/SAFEnewzealand.

Zeb Davies
Zeb Davies
  • Kim Martins

Yes, acknolwedging that SAFE lobbied very hard earlier this year and in fact, it was the lack of attention that our council seemed to give their hard work, that served as the further impetus for this. It was written somewhere in the ntoes that SAFE believed...Rodeos were harmful. How demeaning,SAFE like all of us, KNOW that Rodeos are harmful. It is proven.

Kim Martins
Kim Martins
  • Kim Martins

It's the usual: politicians and Councillors who WILL NOT listen to the very citizens and groups who put them into power in the first place. It's easier to protect your job in politics than it is to speak out for what you believe in. If they were true politicians, they would publicly state what their views are on rodeo and, if they are against them, publicly state this. In fact, if any of the Hamilton Councillors OPPOSE rodeo, I would ask them why they have not signed this petition.

Zeb Davies
Zeb Davies
  • Kim Martins

It's a really weird climate for a city when...voting FOR ethical treatment of animals is considered naughty and extremist. Councillors are supposed to be LEADERS, the job description is to LEAD. When we elect people that we haven't spoken to, we are left with no choice than to glean who they are and what they will do, based on what they affiliate with...SPCA, kind things to animals. If it means nothing, if it means you will only bring about ethical change if you are forced to by legislation,...

It's a really weird climate for a city when...voting FOR ethical treatment of animals is considered naughty and extremist. Councillors are supposed to be LEADERS, the job description is to LEAD. When we elect people that we haven't spoken to, we are left with no choice than to glean who they are and what they will do, based on what they affiliate with...SPCA, kind things to animals. If it means nothing, if it means you will only bring about ethical change if you are forced to by legislation, then it means nothing , you aren't leading, and there was NO purpose (other than to mislead) in alluding to your gentle and ethical side....

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