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Aaron Griesel
Aaron Griesel

Can you believe the nerve of some people !?! to think that a residential area would be built so close to the country.
I can't sign this. The guy is trying to make a living, just in a different way from how you do. Get you some Suck it Up or take your city ideals back where they belong. You are in the country get used to it.

Leon Kiley
Leon Kiley
  • Aaron Griesel

This guy "just trying to make a living" actually is quite well off and doesn't actually farm for a living!

Aaron Griesel
Aaron Griesel
  • Aaron Griesel

Think about it for a minute. Who chose whom for a neighbor? Did he move his vineyard next to you and start setting off the bird repellant ? I'd lay odds the vineyard was there before your neighborhood existed.

Lorena Woodfine
Lorena Woodfine
  • Aaron Griesel

Aaron - we all have to share this world. If we can do so peacefully and quietly through using a different method then why shouldn't we? Why would the farmer not use nets? Laziness and nothing more. In addition, this farmer is actively causing problems for other noise-sensitive species in his area and damaging the ecosystem. Those organisms were there first and have the right to live without being traumatised by explosions all day every day. I'd lay odds all those creatures were there before this guy showed up and planted his vineyard.

Lindy Hinds
Lindy Hinds
  • Aaron Griesel

Good for you Lorena Woodfine! Very well spoken and so true!

Rutudhwajd Deshpande
Rutudhwajd Deshpande
  • Aaron Griesel

u r correct Lorena Even Darwin said so.

Menashe Llago
Menashe Llago
  • Aaron Griesel

Darwin said that he was wrong on his death bed.Anybody who is a scientist has to call his modelDarwinism,They have a "new"model for what they call evolution now.

Menashe Llago
Menashe Llago
  • Aaron Griesel

Besides,Darwin spoke of survival of the fittest.As we see the average person today,That turns that idea on its head as well.

Kelly O'Brien
Kelly O'Brien
  • Aaron Griesel

@James
This actually made me laugh. Ignorant. Animals and living things other than humans still live or die by survival of the fittest

Kelly O'Brien
Kelly O'Brien
  • Aaron Griesel

...cont....
With advanced technology and medicine, humans have in some ways gotten around survival of the fittest.

Chelsie T. Zeitz
Chelsie T. Zeitz
  • Aaron Griesel

I've been living in the country for nineteen years and it's only just recently that these things have started becoming far too noisy. And I live where there's hunters and sportsmen firing off guns. These canons are much too loud.

Aaron Griesel
Aaron Griesel

The unacceptable part about this is the lies the author is spreading in order to gain signatures. The reason the Sherriff couldn't do anything is because the vineyard owner is doing nothing wrong. So , the author hs to trump something up against his neighbor. I'd be ashamed to have you in my neighborhood.

Leon Kiley
Leon Kiley
  • Aaron Griesel

Well Aaron, it seems you know the situation here pretty well. I encourage you to buy my house so you can deal with this BS!

Aaron Griesel
Aaron Griesel
  • Aaron Griesel

opening your campaign stating they are in your backyard is a lie. If it weren't , the sheriff wouldn't have said there is nothing to be done about it.
You are to close to the country , you really should sue your realtor for not disclosing this about your property. If you had done your homework better you wouldn't have the problem of trying to change your neighbors.

Leon Kiley
Leon Kiley
  • Aaron Griesel

Do you make calling honest folks liars? The fact is that the sheriff and prosecuting attorney claim that nothing can be done as a result or their "right to farm". Again, if you don't believe it's only a couple hundred yards away then I entourage you to come and see for yourself.

Tony Pennebaker
Tony Pennebaker
  • Aaron Griesel

I have bird cannons pointed at me here in Texas. They are a little annoying but since most birds are protected we farmers try to not kill them. Still we must protect our crops. I find that a 12 ga shotgun works pretty well but who can afford that much ammo.

Aaron Griesel
Aaron Griesel
  • Aaron Griesel

Mr Kiley, your spelling , typo's and poor grammar usage make your post nearly incomprehensible.
Are the repellant devices ON your property ? or NOT ?
They are NOT ! ok so what is it you want done ? You clearly state they are "in your backyard" .
This is an obvious case of "Buyers Remorse" . Do you really feel "entitled" to someone else fixing or paying for your mistake ?

Menashe Llago
Menashe Llago
  • Aaron Griesel

What we see here is a person who has been clamoring to get LEGAL and CRIMINAL action by his own words above against someone for trying to do their job.People always talking about banning something.Must be from California.

Menashe Llago
Menashe Llago
  • Aaron Griesel

Since he is unable to get any legal means to grant his personal wishes,now he tries to start a petition.Because he thinks he is extra special,and that the whole world should give him peace and quiet if he says so.

Heather Nicole Williams

I used to live in the country surrounded by Citrus and Pistachio orchards that used these things and they aren't that loud. I would rather listen to the propane bird cannons than live in a city with cars that go by every few seconds, now that's annoying!

Leon Kiley
Leon Kiley
  • Heather Nicole Williams

The nice thing about this country is that we still have"A Choice". Choosing to live away from the city doesn't mean compromising between the lesser of two evils!

Aaron Griesel
Aaron Griesel
  • Heather Nicole Williams

And you choose to live next to a vineyard. Do you not see the irony of this ?
Vineyards and farming means money, industry, jobs and unilateral prosperity. If you aren't for these things maybe you are a freeloading carpet bagger better suited for somewhere else.

Leon Kiley
Leon Kiley
  • Heather Nicole Williams

Again, more assumptions. I too am a business owner and employer, however, that doesn't entitle me completely disregard everyone who my business ventures may have a negative impact on. Furthermore, I'm a decorated combat veteran and dedicated 8 years of my life serving this country for the cause I believe in ideals like life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I believe I've earned my right to champion this cause as many folks across this country are affected by this intrusion on their...

Again, more assumptions. I too am a business owner and employer, however, that doesn't entitle me completely disregard everyone who my business ventures may have a negative impact on. Furthermore, I'm a decorated combat veteran and dedicated 8 years of my life serving this country for the cause I believe in ideals like life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I believe I've earned my right to champion this cause as many folks across this country are affected by this intrusion on their own lives. Shame on you for suggesting that I'm some "freeloading carpet bagger" and if that vineyard really wanted to create jobs, they'd hire folks to scare the birds rather than relying on cheap and obnoxious noise pollution.

Lynn Laviolette
Lynn Laviolette
  • Heather Nicole Williams

To Mr. Aaron, seriously....a freeloading carpetbagger??? EVERYONE who purchases property has the right to peaceful enjoyment of their homes. And so what if he chose to live next to a vineyard, it's his right to choose a property to suits him and his lifestyle. And I agree that there are much less intrusive methods by which birds can be deterred from the vineyards...HIRE PEOPLE to scare them off if you are so worried about unilateral prosperity, or set up netting. I'm sure that the bird...

To Mr. Aaron, seriously....a freeloading carpetbagger??? EVERYONE who purchases property has the right to peaceful enjoyment of their homes. And so what if he chose to live next to a vineyard, it's his right to choose a property to suits him and his lifestyle. And I agree that there are much less intrusive methods by which birds can be deterred from the vineyards...HIRE PEOPLE to scare them off if you are so worried about unilateral prosperity, or set up netting. I'm sure that the bird cannons are more recent and that Mr. Leon didn't choose to live next to that cacaphony to begin with. Maybe you should camp out next to the property for a few days and THEN try to make a case for irony.

Lynn Laviolette
Lynn Laviolette
  • Heather Nicole Williams

Leon Kiley I did the math and you should NOT have to listen to that noise. It works out to 21600 bangs per 24 hour periods based on the video. 3 bangs in 12 seconds equals 15 bangs per minute, 900 per hour and 21600 per day. That is just plain nuts, assuming of course that the birds are that consistent in their raids on the vineyard, and I suspect that they probably are.

Menashe Llago
Menashe Llago
  • Heather Nicole Williams

You own a home in a nice country setting.In an AGRICULTURAL zoned area.Perhaps you live too well,do you live better than your employees?How big is your house,property,do you really need that much space?An apartment in an urban zone is where you should be.,,What,you don't like it when your type of logic is taken to that extreme?

Menashe Llago
Menashe Llago
  • Heather Nicole Williams

There are quiet ways that some people employee.Ever hear of the huge bird die offs at various times and places?It has been confirmed that many of the cases are from poisoning.Quiet and anonymous.
Somebody should start a petition.

Yve Kosugi
Yve Kosugi

Maybe all of those opposed to the cannons should declare that they are willing to pay much more for their fruit etc., if they are intending on forcing farmers to net multiple acres of farm land. Do you have any idea of the cost to the producer? Or maybe stop being so fussy and be willing to purchase bird pecked fruit? I didn't think so. NIMBY suburbanites with no idea what it takes to get you your "perfect" fruit and veg.

Leon Kiley
Leon Kiley
  • Yve Kosugi

I know you wouldn't be saying this if you had one of these cannons pointed right at me less than a hundred yards away going off about every minute. I don't think farming should be that intrusive, how about you?

Leon Kiley
Leon Kiley
  • Yve Kosugi

Obviously I meant you.

Yve Kosugi
Yve Kosugi
  • Yve Kosugi

I am a farmer and I am surrounded by orchards and propane canon noise is common at certain times of year. Farmers are just doing what is cost effective and works to minimize damage to their crops. People will not spend any more money for their food & they will not buy bird pecked food. I tolerate the noise because I understand what the orchardists are up against. Having said that they should be calibrated to fire at a reasonable frequency. It's notnfarming that is intrusive, it's the...

I am a farmer and I am surrounded by orchards and propane canon noise is common at certain times of year. Farmers are just doing what is cost effective and works to minimize damage to their crops. People will not spend any more money for their food & they will not buy bird pecked food. I tolerate the noise because I understand what the orchardists are up against. Having said that they should be calibrated to fire at a reasonable frequency. It's notnfarming that is intrusive, it's the suburban creep into farm areas that is intrusive. Don't like the sounds and smells? Move down town.

Leon Kiley
Leon Kiley
  • Yve Kosugi

So a home that has been on it's foundation over 20 years before the vineyard moved in should have to move eh? So you are fine with vineyards and orchards using pesticides and extremely high decibel explosions right next to where families live and kids play right? That is your opinion? And for what, so save a little money at the expense of others. Real nice indeed (<< sarcasm)!

Lorena Woodfine
Lorena Woodfine
  • Yve Kosugi

People will pay the cost if they don't have an option. So how about all you farmers stop making excuses and stop BEING the option??? Isn't it interesting how crops are more expensive now than they were 30-40 years ago (taking inflation into account) even though there was far more wastage then? And farmers were better off too. Keep upsetting the balance of nature for your own 'benefit' and all of mankind will suffer. (and yes, I grow my own produce. it's organic. And it's fine. And I...

People will pay the cost if they don't have an option. So how about all you farmers stop making excuses and stop BEING the option??? Isn't it interesting how crops are more expensive now than they were 30-40 years ago (taking inflation into account) even though there was far more wastage then? And farmers were better off too. Keep upsetting the balance of nature for your own 'benefit' and all of mankind will suffer. (and yes, I grow my own produce. it's organic. And it's fine. And I supplement it by buying organic produce locally at twice the cost of the local supermarket, in order to support the local farmers. I have no idea what a NIMBY is. I'm fairly certain I wouldn't be one. But I am a suburbanite - meaning I get to appreciate the city AND the country). I very much remember buying apples as a child and finding worms in them. I'm glad they're not in them now. But I'd rather pick the worms out than have to put up with farmers destroying the environment and blaming the consumers for it. As I said - don't give people a choice and they will pay what they need to.

Ishtar's Legacy
Ishtar's Legacy

I'm most concerned about the birds- that's traumatizing for them! How greedy can those farmers get! Isn't there sometning in the Bible about God always providing for the birds..... Doesn't that mean you should let them have the little bit of food they need! SHAME ON THOSE GREEDY , MEAN FARMERS.

Gregory Wright
Gregory Wright

SO WHO ASKED FOR 'PERFECT' FRUITS AND VEGGIES? I'VE EATEN MY SHARE OF BIRD-PECKED CHERRIES AND FRUITS. JUST WASH 'EM OFF, IF YOU WANT, AND ENJOY! NOISE POLLUTION IN ALL ITS FORMS SUCKS -- ESPECIALLY FROM CARS AND MOTORCYCLES, THE KIND MOST OF US ARE FORCED TO ENDURE.

Ildi Kovacs
Ildi Kovacs

Van ahol hálóval védik a termést....

Bonnie J Block-Lee
Bonnie J Block-Lee

Adopt a shelter dog who will do the work plus get great exercise....they do this at Airports.

Bonnie J Block-Lee
Bonnie J Block-Lee

Better ways to deal with this situation..........Cannons........Really?

Robert Rodriguez
Robert Rodriguez

Agriculture is more important than a little quiet. Suck it up, and don't buy a place near agricultural land next time.

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