Carol Ann Bradford
Carol Ann Bradford

I feel that if a game farmer owns rhino then he is responsible for them. If they are killed on his watch he should be held accountable in some way. They all know rhino is high risk and must have 24 hour a day surveillance

David Hohls
David Hohls
  • Carol Ann Bradford

And I suppose you are going to fund this, jolly good show then. If not, then wipe the drivel from your lower lip and have a good long think about the game farmers and their lives that they place on the line 24/7 in an attempt to protect our wildlife heritage. Are you willing or even able to do bush patrol on a game farm?

Margot Stewart
Margot Stewart
  • Carol Ann Bradford

David Hohls if you cannot afford the upkeep of your "rhino farm" or whatever facility you keep them on, get out of the business. If you cannot afford to secure them against poachers then rather grow crops or go into dairy farming etc. The only thing you want to protect is the concept someone sold you: getting rich on the backs of endangered wildlife.

Danielle Pienaar
Danielle Pienaar
  • Carol Ann Bradford

We are funding it already through taxes. FOUR trillion yearly.
All that needs to happen is for government to do its job.

Danielle Pienaar
Danielle Pienaar
  • Carol Ann Bradford

Margot Stewart - I fully agree. Take away the adequate enclosure certificates of those who plead poverty, and let them try another way to make money. Pleading poverty is simply not adequate.

Carol Ann Bradford
Carol Ann Bradford
  • Carol Ann Bradford

Hear hear girls I fully agree if you want Rhino you MUST protect them and not rely on someone else to do the job

Sally Li
Sally Li

I am more concerned about the poaching of white people than the white rhinoceros, in South Africa.
It is time for sanctions to be applied to the new apartheid regime in South Africa, which is.
far worse than the old apartheid regime. It is typical of the worldwide double standard.
on Africa that atrocities committed by black regimes are completely overlooked in the.
human rights equation, and by news media. It's time to eliminate that double-
standard and hold the genocidal regimes of South...

I am more concerned about the poaching of white people than the white rhinoceros, in South Africa.
It is time for sanctions to be applied to the new apartheid regime in South Africa, which is.
far worse than the old apartheid regime. It is typical of the worldwide double standard.
on Africa that atrocities committed by black regimes are completely overlooked in the.
human rights equation, and by news media. It's time to eliminate that double-
standard and hold the genocidal regimes of South Africa and Zimbabwe.
accountable, just as we would any other regime which.
behaved the same way. There is a Sharpeville once.
every ten days in South Africa, committed by.
regime-supported criminals against the.
white farmers, including their.
wives and children.

Susan Ann Langford
Susan Ann Langford
  • Sally Li

@Scott Davis - Scott, Pamela Kilmer sent me an in box message which I just read! I want to make sure you understand that is NOT the message I carry at this time! She quoted an old newspaper article from 1988, at that time, I was just beginning my understanding of the real problems in America. The message I carry today is very CLEAR and does not include any lawyers sitting on the Non Lawyer Disciplinary Review Boards! I want to make sure you understand me, and you can find my message all over...

@Scott Davis - Scott, Pamela Kilmer sent me an in box message which I just read! I want to make sure you understand that is NOT the message I carry at this time! She quoted an old newspaper article from 1988, at that time, I was just beginning my understanding of the real problems in America. The message I carry today is very CLEAR and does not include any lawyers sitting on the Non Lawyer Disciplinary Review Boards! I want to make sure you understand me, and you can find my message all over my pages and on my blogtalk radio show page. thank you! - -------------Here is a copy of her inbox message > >Pamela Kilmer:
I mentioned to Scott Davis about a lawyer possibly being there for the Judicial Review Boards only as an adviser and he said that "advisers" tend to take over - like they did in Vietnam... the American "advisers" were followed by a full scale occupation of South Vietnam by US troops for ten years. If everyone on such review boards turns to the "expert" for advice, it defeats the purpose of this type of reform. It will be a case of "the more things change, the more they remain the same."

Sally Li
Sally Li
  • Sally Li

Very good! Thank you! Susan Ann Langford is a great author, and a trailblazer in the modern battle to end the current high tide of corruption in American government. Susan, what is the title of your book again?

Sally Li
Sally Li
  • Sally Li

I see it here: BRINGING DOWN GOLIATH!

Susan Ann Langford
Susan Ann Langford
  • Sally Li

"Bringing Down Goliath, Based On my True Story" http://lulu.com/spotlight/bdgoliath Thank you Scott!!

Despina M. Andrelus
Despina M. Andrelus
  • Sally Li

Both must be fought for, Sally Li. The heart has room enough to love and fight for both causes. The Lord made us so.

Despina M. Andrelus
Despina M. Andrelus
  • Sally Li

"A righteous man regards the life of animals" - PROVERBS 12:10; "If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion & pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men" - FRANCIS OF ASSISI; "I hope to make people realize how totally helpless animals are, how dependent on us, trusting as a child must that we will be kind and take care of their needs...(They) are an obligation put on us, a responsibility we have no rights to neglect, nor...

"A righteous man regards the life of animals" - PROVERBS 12:10; "If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion & pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men" - FRANCIS OF ASSISI; "I hope to make people realize how totally helpless animals are, how dependent on us, trusting as a child must that we will be kind and take care of their needs...(They) are an obligation put on us, a responsibility we have no rights to neglect, nor to violate by cruelty...." - JAMES HARRIOT; "The greatness of a nation & its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated" - MAHATMA GANDHI.

Jaco Deventer
Jaco Deventer

My name is twice on the petition......hmmmmm.....how trusted can this petitions be?

Tim van Heerden
Tim van Heerden
  • Jaco Deventer

Everyone in favour of this petition does not have a clue. It is because of the legal trade in White Rhino that their numbers and available habitat increased in SA.

Ingrid Ser
Ingrid Ser
  • Jaco Deventer

I truly believe this speaks volumes about the person who want's to sabotage this petition, doesn't it Jaco? Do you have an hidden agenda perhaps? Are you a farmer with personal gain. Is that the reason why you want this petition to fail? I guess you are really afraid at the moment!! Have you seen the good news about the EU? I just love it when everything fals into place!!

Jaco Deventer
Jaco Deventer
  • Jaco Deventer

Ingrid, I did not ask questions, not personal questions so by the way. I am not afraid and will never be. I did not sabotage any petition, I just proved it can be manipulised and it is now a fact! Am I a farmer? Try and figure it out. Do I gain out of this? Try and find out. Hidden agenda? No, there is non! You are basically telling me I am terrorising people. No I am not, you people are terrorising us! Stay out of my business, I will stay out of yours. Hope you read my post on my blog!

Jaco Deventer
Jaco Deventer
  • Jaco Deventer

Ingrid, what fell into place? The petition above has been overuled by CITES and our government. Do not count your chicks before they hatch. I mentioned earlier in one of my converstations, this year at COP, there will be some more heavyweights around. The greenies has not done one thing since 1991 to save the Rhino. Farmer did indeed, that is why there is so many on private farms. Be concerned about national Parks, that belongs to the people, pvt animals do NOT!

Margot Stewart
Margot Stewart

YIPPEEE! THANK YOU KENYA!
THE FIRST PROVISIONAL LIST OF PROPOSALS FOR AMENDMENT AT CITES COP16 HAS BEEN RELEASED AND KENYA HAS PROPOSED AN AMENDMENT FOR THE WHITE RHINOS AS FOLLOWS:

To amend the annotation for Ceratotherium simum simum as follows:
“Ceratotherium simum simum (Only the populations of South Africa and Swaziland; all other populations are included in Appendix I. For the exclusive purpose of allowing international trade in live animals to appropriate and acceptable destinations...

YIPPEEE! THANK YOU KENYA!
THE FIRST PROVISIONAL LIST OF PROPOSALS FOR AMENDMENT AT CITES COP16 HAS BEEN RELEASED AND KENYA HAS PROPOSED AN AMENDMENT FOR THE WHITE RHINOS AS FOLLOWS:

To amend the annotation for Ceratotherium simum simum as follows:
“Ceratotherium simum simum (Only the populations of South Africa and Swaziland; all other populations are included in Appendix I. For the exclusive purpose of allowing international trade in live animals to appropriate and acceptable destinations and hunting trophies. Hunting trophies from South Africa and Swaziland shall be subject to a zero export quota until at least CoP18. All other specimens shall be deemed to be specimens of species included in Appendix I and the trade in them shall be regulated accordingly)”.

this is an indication that the process is being reversed. Now lets up the ante - who will propose a FULL SUSPENSION OF TRADE?

Danielle Pienaar
Danielle Pienaar
  • Margot Stewart

All hail Kenya - the greatest nation on earth for the 35th year running.

Danielle Pienaar
Danielle Pienaar
  • Margot Stewart

Zero export quota forever

Margot Stewart
Margot Stewart
  • Margot Stewart

A small step.. but in the right direction.

John Holland
John Holland

What anincredibly stupid thing to do.
More funding is needed to afford more protection, answer, cut trade South Africa goes broke.
obviously an idea by the minimum IQ club.

Margot Stewart
Margot Stewart
  • John Holland

More funding YES, but it will not come from abusing this iconic member of the BIG 5.

Tish Brown
Tish Brown
  • John Holland

SA will go broke because of corruption and racism, the world needs to stop pussy footing around, it imposed sanctions before, citing the same reasons, it needs to act again. SA is the most racist country in the world, most are unaware exactly who is being persecuted, no-one deserves that, many species need protection, including Rhinos and the racial minority!!

John Holland
John Holland
  • John Holland

sanctions has yet to resolve any problem

Fillet Frederic
Fillet Frederic

cut their hunters 'horn' and let them bleed to death!

Lennard Armée
Lennard Armée
  • Fillet Frederic

toch spijtig dat al die petities uw e-mailadres afdwingen, zelfs die waar ik echt achter sta

Ingrid Ser
Ingrid Ser
  • Fillet Frederic

Komaan Lennard, wat houd je tegen? Steun deze petitie als je er echt ten volle achterstaat. ;-)

Margot Stewart
Margot Stewart

AN OPEN LETTER TO: JOHN HUME, RHINO FARMER.
FROM: MARGOT STEWART, RHINO SOS SOUTH AFRICA.
Dear John,
When we rhino activists read your “doctrine” on the benefits of rhino farming it is as if you are speaking a language from another planet. We just don’t get your point of view and patently, you don’t get ours!
So let’s agree to disagree but at the same time I would like to put my point of view across to you. You and your colleagues have received the lion’s share of the publicity and media...

AN OPEN LETTER TO: JOHN HUME, RHINO FARMER.
FROM: MARGOT STEWART, RHINO SOS SOUTH AFRICA.
Dear John,
When we rhino activists read your “doctrine” on the benefits of rhino farming it is as if you are speaking a language from another planet. We just don’t get your point of view and patently, you don’t get ours!
So let’s agree to disagree but at the same time I would like to put my point of view across to you. You and your colleagues have received the lion’s share of the publicity and media coverage these past few months so please indulge me. This is why I direct this letter to you, as poster-boy for your industry.
I don’t know much about you but it appears to me that you are a self-made man and very proud of your achievements. I’m sure you have combined your God-given talents and resourcefulness with a huge amount of hard work and initiative to get where you are today. Nobody begrudges you that, in the main.
Where we differ is with your attitude towards the exploitation of an endangered species with the intention of making large profits. You say that saving the rhino from extinction is your passion and your life’s work. It must puzzle you when people like me criticise you for your efforts. This is where the gap in understanding comes in.
In your letters and interviews you launch into fervent explanations of breeding figures, logistical problems with surplus males, the need for more and bigger farms and the return on your investment. Figures of millions of rands are thrown about and so are buzz words like “inflation’ and “renewable natural resource.”.
We would all be very impressed if you were discussing cattle or some other domesticated animal that is a food source for instance. So it is not WHAT you do that upsets us - it is WHO you do it to that we cannot abide.
I have done some research on you, and I may be wrong (correct me if I am), but it appears you moved to South Africa from Zimbabwe in the early 1990’s. This was when a new industry was beginning to develop in South Africa: Wildlife farming. You caught the wave it seems. It is men like you who GREW the industry and created markets. Your motivation was not conservation, but was profit driven.
Previously in South Africa, wildlife was mostly confined to the National & Provincial game parks under custodianship of the government. Wilderness areas had been set aside to conserve wildlife in their natural habitat for the preservation of a way of life that was disappearing fast- the Africa of old - where herds of animals teemed across the land and before men put up fences and began clearing land for agriculture and towns.
I cannot think of one reason to do with Conservation, why (at that time) wild animals needed to be farmed. If there was a shortfall of certain species then the game reserves were perfectly adequate areas in which to repopulate them. NO. The wildlife industry grew up around the (so called) sport of Hunting. Wild animals were captured or bought and hunting safaris were marketed and the entire motivation for this was to generate profits. And the rarer and more dangerous the animal, the more it paid to hunt them.
Of course, all along, there was the trade in rhino horn and ivory – and other rare animals and animal products. Hunting and farming with wildlife is immensely popular among a certain type of “adventurous, pioneering” type of person. What better life than to live as did the feudal lords of yesteryear, on huge farms surrounded by game and serfs? Very medieval , very romantic.
Except that way of life has had a corrupting influence on its proponents. They did indeed begin to think of themselves as special, the African Gentry. More and more we see this kind of haughty “above the law” kind of attitude among wildlife farmers.
It takes an awful lot of money to maintain these huge farms and the serfs and the lifestyle. The only source of income is the wildlife and so more and innovative uses are being found to exploit them.
And this is where the rhino, especially the less aggressive White Rhino, has excelled as an investment for you and your colleagues. The concept of rhino horn trade was espoused. The fact that it was illegal and frowned upon did not deter you. You simply decided that it was a commodity from profiteers heaven and somehow or other you would convince the Government to allow you to trade in it. You felt you could not go wrong. Rhinos at that stage were relatively cheap, and the animal was worth more dead than alive so there were few risks. I wonder how many rhinos died, and how many horns found their way to the east despite CITES bans. And then the concept of de-horning live rhinos materialized. You declared that there was no longer any needed to kill the animal; just pursue it, anaesthetize it and saw its horn off.
Did you and your colleagues ever blink when that idea was cooked up?
How cruel! How invasive! How un-natural!
Did you and your colleagues ever blink when discussing the ZERO medicinal value of rhino horn?
How un-ethical to contemplate selling a bogus product as a cancer cure!
And when scientific studies proved how invalid the medicinal worth was – marketing men simply dreamed up new uses. A status symbol. An “anti-hangover cure.”.
Instead of living wild and free in the African bush, must a rhino now be confined to a boma or a paddock and be abused to satisfy that kind of hogwash?
I have examined the concept of rhino farming from every angle and I cannot find one fact that redeems it. It fails on every level and it must NEVER be allowed.
If you could only recognize how wrong it is and value the rhino simply for what it is – an iconic member of the Big 5 and not for its monetary worth. STOP all this talk of trade and send a firm message to the East. RHINO HORN IS OFF THE MENU. Poach at your peril! If everyone took that attitude and followed through with increased law enforcement and severe penalties we would see the east turning to other sources of TCM. In any event, investigators have found that a lot of what is sold as rhino horn in the east is counterfeit.
You state that your breeding program requires you to buy a new farm every year. You say you need about R14 million every single year without ever getting one single rand as a return on investment.
I can’t quite make out if your statement is a complaint or a boast!
When did the intention ever come about to breed thousands and thousands of surplus rhinos? What we need is a healthy, well managed, protected and conserved population of a size suitable to the available wilderness areas. If a surplus develops naturally then these can be sent to APPROVED & APPROPRIATE DESTINATIONS. Why breed thousands of rhinos unless the intention is to hunt them or exploit them?
Many people in the world agree with my opinion and more importantly, it isn’t up to either you or me to decide. The decision has already been made. Rhino horn trade is illegal. China has officially banned it. CITES and NGO’s have called for educational campaigns to show how worthless it is.
Only two parties want this to continue: the rhino farmers and organized crime syndicates. Everyone looks to you John Hume as the leader of this drive to trade horn. Even the poachers see your lust for the horn and it sets an example for them. Please take the higher road and get out of this fraudulent excuse of an enterprise.
Sincerely,
Margot Stewart
RHINO SOS South Africa.

Rian Geldenhuys
Rian Geldenhuys
  • Margot Stewart

Mr Hume - the time has come for you to start paying taxes, and not "write off" income by investing in either snake oil or rhino horn business. Both are failed endeavours. We need your taxes for real conservation, such as the expansion of true wild areas. Please consider contributing as a citizen.

Margot Stewart
Margot Stewart

Friends, I have just finished e-mailing over 400 CITES representatives around the world telling them about this petition and asking them to propose a Suspension of Trade for the White Rhinoceros. For as long as there is talk of trade in horn, there will be poaching. Please sign and share this very important petition. THIS PETITION provides a practical and achievable solution to the problem.

Rian Geldenhuys
Rian Geldenhuys
  • Margot Stewart

I agree with every word and paragraph of this petition, and have appended my signature. S have thousands of others I see. It is time to stop the exploitation.

Christa Lindsay
Christa Lindsay
  • Margot Stewart

This is good! How can we let Eastern Countries know that it is foolish to think that the horn of rhino is the same as viagra!!!!!!

Elisa Angelica Sosa Ceballos

POR FAVOR DETENER LA MATANZA DE RINOCERONTE, ES LAMENTABLE ESTO. EL GOBIERNO DE AFRICA QUE HAGA ALGO.

Elisa Angelica Sosa Ceballos
Elisa Angelica Sosa Ceballos
  • Elisa Angelica Sosa Ceballos

ME GUSTA ESTO.

Robyn Crowley Manning
Robyn Crowley Manning

What's wrong with civilized man?

Caroline Anne Kerr
Caroline Anne Kerr
  • Robyn Crowley Manning

Done!!

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