Scott Hansen
Scott Hansen

Thanks to Meryl Dorey and her vile flying monkeys, the numbers are now jacked. Cheers anti vaxers for being the pox on society that you are.

Scott Hansen
Scott Hansen
  • Scott Hansen

Erwin, you are a slobbering, anti Semitic, homophobic nut job. Why would anybody take anything you say seriously?

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Scott Hansen

Wow, zen, that was so well articulated... I'm always impressed by this stack of new words antivax nutjobs invent because their own vocabulary suffers so much to actually just use a real one.

Jared Hyames
Jared Hyames
  • Scott Hansen

drzen007... you are clearly , not a doctor, not zen, and definitely not James Bond..
woo -- is 'alt med'
anti vaxers love woo..
you are anti vax
drzen007 = woo

Terry Kendall Schnitzler

Don't waste your time here. People just belittling anyone who doesn't agree with them. Well educated idiots.

Lynne Batik
Lynne Batik
  • Terry Kendall Schnitzler

You interpret being contradicted with being belittled. It's no wonder you have no interest in learning anything -- and yes, that IS belittling you, but to be fair, it is based on actual behavior.

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Terry Kendall Schnitzler

We don't really need to contradict you though, you did that yourself - how can one be well educated AND be an idiot?

If you don't like your claims being criticised, then don't make them - someone is always going to criticise those silly claims you make about vaccines, just like you criticise the vaccines themselves. Would you say you are "belittling" the people you don't agree with? If not, then those are some pretty hefty double standards you have going on there.

Don't be a hypocrite, because that sort of behaviour is worth belittling.

Terry Kendall Schnitzler
Terry Kendall Schnitzler
  • Terry Kendall Schnitzler

You two are perfect examples; no surprise you don't understand. You are both embarrassing yourselves. If you are so damn right, there be no need to put people down and tell them how stupid they are. Just because you can read and retain some facts does not mean you grasp the larger concepts or you'd be doing something like creating new ground breaking vaccines rather than trolling here trying to prove how high and mighty you are.

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Terry Kendall Schnitzler

Actually, I'm not feeling embarrassed at all.

"Just because you can read and retain some facts does not mean you grasp the larger concepts or you'd be doing something like creating new ground breaking vaccines..."

You mean like the people who have already created groundbreaking vaccines who you reject as "pharma" shills?

Do you grasp the "larger concepts"? What are the "larger concepts" exactly? Please enlighten us.

Otherwise, don't sit there and accuse us of behaviour that we are...

Actually, I'm not feeling embarrassed at all.

"Just because you can read and retain some facts does not mean you grasp the larger concepts or you'd be doing something like creating new ground breaking vaccines..."

You mean like the people who have already created groundbreaking vaccines who you reject as "pharma" shills?

Do you grasp the "larger concepts"? What are the "larger concepts" exactly? Please enlighten us.

Otherwise, don't sit there and accuse us of behaviour that we are subjected to routinely as a result of simply criticising the antivaccine movement. You go and find one post where I've treated someone as beneath me prior to them doing as much to me.

I'm sure people here aren't stupid, but I guarantee you you can be a very smart person and still be completely wrong - it happens to me frequently. But I'm brave enough to admit it when it happens. That's the only difference between our opposing sides of any "debate" over vaccination.

Lynne Batik
Lynne Batik
  • Terry Kendall Schnitzler

Terry, people like the anti-vaccinationists here (you included) are scaring parents away from one of the most successful health interventions of all time, --based on false information.--

KIDS DIE BECAUSE OF THIS.

That's not speculation: there have been utterly needless and pointless outbreaks of preventable diseases like measles and pertussis, propagating through unvaccinated populations, and children have died. They didn't need to. It was preventable. But they died -- because of...

Terry, people like the anti-vaccinationists here (you included) are scaring parents away from one of the most successful health interventions of all time, --based on false information.--

KIDS DIE BECAUSE OF THIS.

That's not speculation: there have been utterly needless and pointless outbreaks of preventable diseases like measles and pertussis, propagating through unvaccinated populations, and children have died. They didn't need to. It was preventable. But they died -- because of scary-scary misinformation.

I consider it a moral *duty* to speak up to contradict the bullshit and the false information which endangers lives. You don't like it? I don't like the fact that people are pushing bullshit and false information.
You *could* learn something real.
You *could* ensure that your information was correct.
You don't, though. You haven't. And that's your fault. And frankly, I don't give a rat's furry grey behind that you are getting all sniffy on being called on it. The fact that you probably sincerely believe what you are saying, does NOT morally absolve you of responsibility for the fact that you are actively pushing false "information", misinformation which results in harm.

Not unproven, speculative harm, either; not nebulous-conspiracy-theory; but obvious and recorded deaths of children.

...I wasn't belittling you, right up to the point that you decided that presenting information which contradicted you was belittling you. But after that, well, I guess I don't see the need to be polite; it's not as if you're either being polite or even approaching information in good faith. True thing, I really don't care what your opinion of me is, if only you dealt with information in good faith and had a good-faith interest in evidence of how the physical world really works. But it seems that the only interaction that you can possibly tolerate is people agreeing with you or staying silent...and that is not going to happen.

Dianna Donnelly
Dianna Donnelly
  • Terry Kendall Schnitzler

Lynne Batik KIDS DIE BECAUSE OF VACCINES.

Lynne Batik
Lynne Batik
  • Terry Kendall Schnitzler

Very, very few do. As opposed to millions who die and have died of the diseases.

I can do math. Can you?

Andrea Leong
Andrea Leong
  • Terry Kendall Schnitzler

"Don't waste your time here. People just belittling anyone who doesn't agree with them. Well educated idiots."

At first, I thought this was a response to the accusations and insults like: "Please show me evidence of that from a source not paid by big pharma. You're all about evidence. You expect me to believe a nobody like you??????"

Barbara Harding
Barbara Harding

IN YOUR SURVEY I AM SHOCKED THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO DOn't IMMUNISE AND ARE USING THE REST WHO ARE BEING SENSIBLE. IF MORE JOIN THE NO VACCINE GROUP WE WILL BE STEPPING BACK! AND THESE KILLER DISEASES WILL RAISE THEIR HEADS AGAIN!
WE ALL NEED TO EDUCATE OURSELVES FROM RELIABLE SOURSES NOT GOSSIP OR SCARE MONGERING SITES! GET AN UNBIASED SAFE VIEW AND PROTECT YOURSELF AND YOUR CHILDREN. IT WILL BEINFIT FUTURE GENERATIONS AS HOPEFULLY WE WILL GRADUALLY ELIMINATE SOME OF THESE DISEASES! IMMUNISATIONS ARE PROTECTIVE!

Andrea Leong
Andrea Leong
  • Barbara Harding

Bloody hell, Mistie, you only have to go to the Reuters article linked from that page to read:
"[the whooping cough vaccine is effective about half of the time for all kids, and just 24 percent of the time in the eight to 12 year old age group."

Yes, we now know that the whooping cough vaccine wears off more quickly than we'd hope. The older, whole-cell vaccine provided longer-lasting immunity, but it also led to a more acute reaction. Side effects like fever were too common to be...

Bloody hell, Mistie, you only have to go to the Reuters article linked from that page to read:
"[the whooping cough vaccine is effective about half of the time for all kids, and just 24 percent of the time in the eight to 12 year old age group."

Yes, we now know that the whooping cough vaccine wears off more quickly than we'd hope. The older, whole-cell vaccine provided longer-lasting immunity, but it also led to a more acute reaction. Side effects like fever were too common to be acceptable, so scientists developed the acellular vaccine, which is less effective but safer. They're erring on the side of safety.

Andrea Leong
Andrea Leong
  • Barbara Harding

That article has misrepresented the facts. And the facts are: vaccinated children still contract whooping cough at a lower rate than unvaccinated children, but at a higher rate than they would if the current acellular vaccine was as long-lasting as the older whole-cell vaccine.

The reporting is also pretty atrocious, e.g.: "[GSK] did not bother to perform long-term studies." Did not bother. Who writes that?!

Lynne Batik
Lynne Batik
  • Barbara Harding

Andrea Leong "Who writes that?!" -- People with no understanding of the topic who are also too lazy or uneducated to look to see whether this is true.

Lynne Batik
Lynne Batik
  • Barbara Harding

Why no; what I am interested in is countering the misinformation that is spread (loudly) by anti-vaccinationists. It actually makes a difference to people's health and to children's safety, and so the nonsense absolutely should not dominate the discourse.

I'm sorry you find that "rude and nasty." I'm more sorry that people get so emotionally invested in what they believe that they get offended at actual physical evidence.

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Barbara Harding

Jennifer, every comment you make is just to accuse people of being rude and nasty.

Do you have anything, anything at all, of intelligence to offer?

Bridie Burke
Bridie Burke
  • Barbara Harding

Why is it that every single time someone doesn't agree with you Ms Power, you call them rude and nasty? No one is being rude or nasty - they are just stating facts, facts which you choose to dismiss.

Mary Anne Britnell
Mary Anne Britnell

Personally, I chose not to take them. However I did have my children given them (school boards require them I think?). I choose not to take them because I believe they lowers one's natural immuneity. I havn't had a cold or the flue for over 20ys and at 70 am quite healthy and active. As for the measles vaccine, it has been proven that babies have died from them. It is still your choice as a parent whether or not you give them to your children. I do think it wise to keep track of any...

Personally, I chose not to take them. However I did have my children given them (school boards require them I think?). I choose not to take them because I believe they lowers one's natural immuneity. I havn't had a cold or the flue for over 20ys and at 70 am quite healthy and active. As for the measles vaccine, it has been proven that babies have died from them. It is still your choice as a parent whether or not you give them to your children. I do think it wise to keep track of any symptoms your little has after being vaccinated or given flue shots and keep a family history of them to pass on.

Daniel Weinstein
Daniel Weinstein
  • Mary Anne Britnell

Vaccines don't lower one's natural immunity. Immunity to a pathogen comes as a result of exposure to that pathogen - that's how the immune system works. The anti vaccine movement pushes the idea that catching the actual disease gives you "natural immunity" which is somehow better. But the disease can kill and damage. While there may be a very rare negative reaction to the vaccine, measles can kill. It used to kill many children every year. Now it doesn't.

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Mary Anne Britnell

People have been seriously injured by seatbelts in massive car accidents, too. Should they not have been wearing one, do you suppose?

The risk of the vaccine exists, no one is denying that, but the diseases they prevent carry a higher risk. By vaccinated, you are choosing a low risk instead of allowing yourself to be subject to a high risk. The measles vaccine carries a one in a million risk of causing encephalitis, for example, but measle itself has a one in a thousand risk of causing...

People have been seriously injured by seatbelts in massive car accidents, too. Should they not have been wearing one, do you suppose?

The risk of the vaccine exists, no one is denying that, but the diseases they prevent carry a higher risk. By vaccinated, you are choosing a low risk instead of allowing yourself to be subject to a high risk. The measles vaccine carries a one in a million risk of causing encephalitis, for example, but measle itself has a one in a thousand risk of causing encephalitis. But don't think of it that way...

Instead, consider it this way - vaccination reduces the risk of encephalitis from measles from one in a thousand to one in a million. Yes, when you vaccinate, you are knowingly taking the risk of encephalitis... but when you don't vaccinate, you are knowingly choosing a far greater risk.

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Mary Anne Britnell

For you to completely underestimate how fatal measles can be demonstrates how little you really know, "dr" zen.

Lynne Batik
Lynne Batik
  • Mary Anne Britnell

...Except, of course, for the fact that recorded deaths do not support you AT ALL. You are just making this stuff up, pulling it out of your butt, aren't you....

Yvonne Czezowski
Yvonne Czezowski
  • Mary Anne Britnell

I highly suggest watching the documentary "The Greater Good".

Mary Anne Britnell
Mary Anne Britnell
  • Mary Anne Britnell

I know of one case where a child died from the measles vaccine. He was definatly 'not' malnourished. His family were neighbors and owned a grocery store. They were an Italian family all plump and rosy. They had 2 older children. I know this is a rare case, but it was a terrible shock to all of us. When we immigrated in 1952, we had to have shots for one thing or another. My mother's arm became infected and swollen. It took a year or so for it to right itself. I still remember how terrible is looked and nothing we did made it any better.

Lynne Batik
Lynne Batik
  • Mary Anne Britnell

In 1952 in the US, there were 683,077 recorded cases of measles, and 618 deaths from measles. What happened was tragic, no doubt, if there was an anaphylactic reaction to the shot - but what was done was simply trying to play the odds. The odds of death from a vaccine are about 1 in 2,000,000, and the odds of death from measles are just under 1 in 1,000.

I feel very sorry for the people affected. But realistically, there is always danger, whether or not there is a vaccine -- and the choice made was, unfortunately, the sensible one.

Mary Anne Britnell
Mary Anne Britnell
  • Mary Anne Britnell

I don't discourage parents from vaccinating their children. Like you say, the odds are low for deaths when vaccinated but I do think doctors should explain what the odds are. Pregnant women who contract measles often lose the baby. There again is good reason to take these shots. I had measles when I was about 15yrs old (1957). They did me no harm other than the ruddy itches and I couldn't go out to visit with my friends.

Chris Watkins
Chris Watkins

The bigger question here is; Do you trust everything the CDC and the Government tell you?
That is the primary reason people are refusing vaccines.
I know vaccines can be good, but I don't trust a damned thing any government agency says without unbiased proof.
They have lied to the public enough times to warrant suspicion.
No matter what the "professionals" say I have witnessed my child near death within days after being vaccinated. The doctors don't know why but refuse to accept that the...

The bigger question here is; Do you trust everything the CDC and the Government tell you?
That is the primary reason people are refusing vaccines.
I know vaccines can be good, but I don't trust a damned thing any government agency says without unbiased proof.
They have lied to the public enough times to warrant suspicion.
No matter what the "professionals" say I have witnessed my child near death within days after being vaccinated. The doctors don't know why but refuse to accept that the vaccine was a possibility.
What I learned from that experience was that any negative effects of vaccines go unreported.

Andrea Leong
Andrea Leong
  • Chris Watkins

"[...] any negative effects of vaccines go unreported."

I think you'll find that (for example) the Infanrix DTaP vaccine insert lists SIDS as a reported adverse reaction. Not because there's any evidence the vaccine caused it, mind you, but because some random reported it following vaccination. Given that SIDS occurs more frequently in the unvaccinated, we have to be extremely sceptical about any causal link.
http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_infanrix.pdf

The Pneumovax23 insert lists...

"[...] any negative effects of vaccines go unreported."

I think you'll find that (for example) the Infanrix DTaP vaccine insert lists SIDS as a reported adverse reaction. Not because there's any evidence the vaccine caused it, mind you, but because some random reported it following vaccination. Given that SIDS occurs more frequently in the unvaccinated, we have to be extremely sceptical about any causal link.
http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_infanrix.pdf

The Pneumovax23 insert lists serious side effects that occurred during trials; these occurred in 6/1008 vaccinations and 4/1008 placebo doses. Some idiot reported "alcohol intoxication". http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/p/pneumovax_23/pneumovax_pi.pdf

Vaccines have very rare serious side effects, but these are always listed --- there is no conspiracy to hide them. Seriously, the risk to the individual is less than than the risk involved in not vaccinating. Parents of children who had bad reactions need to keep this in mind and not feel guilty.

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Chris Watkins

It's probably because the doctors, who are more qualified than you to say so, have determined that the vaccine was not responsible. While you yourself are perfectly capable of reporting the reaction to VAERS (I'll assume you're from the US), the doctors are not required to do so if they have legitimate reason not to. Get the medical records from them and get a second opinion - that's another option. But blaming them and questioning their ethical integrity without taking the steps you have...

It's probably because the doctors, who are more qualified than you to say so, have determined that the vaccine was not responsible. While you yourself are perfectly capable of reporting the reaction to VAERS (I'll assume you're from the US), the doctors are not required to do so if they have legitimate reason not to. Get the medical records from them and get a second opinion - that's another option. But blaming them and questioning their ethical integrity without taking the steps you have available to CHECK YOUR DAMN FACTS will be ignored in light of the fact that the experts, who have vastly more experience and knowledge than you on the topic of medical matters, are telling you the vaccines have nothing to do with it.

While it would be unwise to take the word of the government without indeed checking claims that might be categorised as questionable at best, pretending the answer hasn't been provided when it clearly has can only result in a "fishing trip" leading you into the murky waters of scams, misinformation, and conspiracy theories.

If the doctors say your son's sickness was not the result of vaccination, then they are likely correct. If you'd gone for a second opinion, and it disagreed with the first, then you might have a leg to stand on, but all you have here is anecdote.

When I was vaccinated, my IQ quickly rose 100 points and I gained superhuman strength.

You see what I did there? When you understand why you don't believe my anecdote, you'll understand why we don't believe yours.

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Chris Watkins

It's not about trust, it's about confirmation. I personally don't trust anyone, but when the data supports what they're saying, then at least I can defer to them as knowing what they're talking about. When it doesn't, then I have a reason not to believe them. This doesn't mean, however, that I'm not prepared to hear them out if they can find NEW EVIDENCE to support their claim, and if it checks out, then I'm again happy to defer.

Chris Watkins
Chris Watkins
  • Chris Watkins

What good would a second opinion do when I have nothing to investigate upon?
Without a batch # from the vaccine or a sample to have analyzed, I have absolutely nothing.
So the second opinion will have even less credibility than the first.
I would bet money they are not going to release a sample to me so I can have it analyzed.
Maybe the vaccine was tainted with something besides what it was intended to treat.
This would lead to the doctor claiming that a menningitis vaccine could not have...

What good would a second opinion do when I have nothing to investigate upon?
Without a batch # from the vaccine or a sample to have analyzed, I have absolutely nothing.
So the second opinion will have even less credibility than the first.
I would bet money they are not going to release a sample to me so I can have it analyzed.
Maybe the vaccine was tainted with something besides what it was intended to treat.
This would lead to the doctor claiming that a menningitis vaccine could not have caused the symptoms of something completly unrelated to menningitis.
I may not be a medical expert, but even a fool knows something's wrong when their healthy active child is hospitalized for a week within a couple days after immunizations.
So I go back to my claim that Immunizations can be good, but the medical establishment, and government need to provide a means for investigative follow up when something seems wrong.
In short, give us a reason to feel confident about the process, instead of calling us fools or idiots because we don't lie down and agree with everything we are told.

Lynne Batik
Lynne Batik
  • Chris Watkins

You know, you really ought to read Paul Offit's book "Deadly Choices." He details exactly what those investigative followups are, and how they have been used to track down real problems, when they occur, and how they haven't supported allegations of others. But when you don't know that something exists, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Right?

Lynne Batik
Lynne Batik
  • Chris Watkins

If you want to find out what the investigative process IS when "something seems wrong", then I honestly suggest you read "Deadly Choices", by Paul Offitt.

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Chris Watkins

Unless something else happened inside those couple of days after the vaccine. Why do you need a sample of the vaccine when if the vaccine was causing the problem, a sample of it would be inside your child causing the problem?

FYI, the "medical establishment" is not the government, they have no reason to lie to you, or make this stuff up. I wouldn't say you're a fool, but I would say you aren't qualified to make the determination that the correlation of the vaccine being delivered prior to...

Unless something else happened inside those couple of days after the vaccine. Why do you need a sample of the vaccine when if the vaccine was causing the problem, a sample of it would be inside your child causing the problem?

FYI, the "medical establishment" is not the government, they have no reason to lie to you, or make this stuff up. I wouldn't say you're a fool, but I would say you aren't qualified to make the determination that the correlation of the vaccine being delivered prior to your son's sickness equates to a cause. I still remember a story about a girl who had a massive fit only moments before she was due for a vaccine of some kind. If that vaccine had been delivered sooner, and she'd had the same fit, than any parent might have made the same correlation. Fortunately, medical professionals know better than to jump to such hasty conclusions.

Kyllie Balazs
Kyllie Balazs
  • Chris Watkins

MMR has caused most of the concerns and possibility of autism links, so why don't we separate measles, mumps , rubella as originally and get vaccination uptake rates up again . It's STILL being researched this issue, so stop wasting money , change it back and get confidence back again. Have it as an option as separate vaccines instead of scraping combination one all together and parents make their own decision. After all no one likes being pushed and should value a parents concern after all .

Suzy Que
Suzy Que

How We Know Vaccines are Safe.
Vaccine safety cannot be measured directly. Instead, it is estimated by the number of “adverse events” reported. An adverse event is “...a medical incident that takes place after an immunization...and is believed to be caused by the immunization.”.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Vaccine_Monitoring/Index.html

That's comforting, I feel so much better now.

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Suzy Que

Nevertheless, I began to read the study... and stopped short at the part where he went into "an analysis of the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) database". Do you know why I stopped there? Because VAERS is conclusive of nothing. VAERS alone is a reporting system, as it's name suggests. That is, you can call up and report whatever you like, and it gets recorded on VAERS. They record it for investigation, and the investigation of VAERS reports determines the accuracy of the...

Nevertheless, I began to read the study... and stopped short at the part where he went into "an analysis of the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) database". Do you know why I stopped there? Because VAERS is conclusive of nothing. VAERS alone is a reporting system, as it's name suggests. That is, you can call up and report whatever you like, and it gets recorded on VAERS. They record it for investigation, and the investigation of VAERS reports determines the accuracy of the reports. You can call up and report a stubbed to as an adverse event following a vaccination, and they will record it. I wonder how the rate of stubbed toes has changed since certain vaccines have been introduced? Maybe we can draw up a correlation from VAERS reports and blame that on "toxic vaccines" as well.

This study is trash. Junk science. Analysing VAERS for data on vaccine-caused reactions is like citing Wikipedia for your doctoral thesis.

Suzy Que
Suzy Que
  • Suzy Que

How We Know Vaccines are Safe.
Vaccine safety cannot be measured directly. Instead, it is estimated by the number of “adverse events” reported. An adverse event is “...a medical incident that takes place after an immunization...and is believed to be caused by the immunization.”.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Vaccine_Monitoring/Index.html

That's comforting, I feel so much better now.

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Suzy Que

Although I know you're being sarcastic, I'm wondering if you've actually read through that in it's entirety, particularly the part where "Adverse events include...Events that would have occurred even if the person had not yet been vaccinated (unrelated consequences).

Which is why VAERS reports aren't used for conclusive data analysis.

Suzy Que
Suzy Que
  • Suzy Que

Yes Martin, I did read through it. There's not much out there that IS conclusive, no matter what you present here, that is just my point. CDC know it, plenty of DRs know it, I know it, heaps of people here know it, on and on I could go. So again I get back to my main issue, which is: When and until vaccines and their preseratives, antibiotics, adjuvants etc are proven safe in EVERY aspect using the guildlines as set out in the Sears article for a start, I reserve my right to be concerned...

Yes Martin, I did read through it. There's not much out there that IS conclusive, no matter what you present here, that is just my point. CDC know it, plenty of DRs know it, I know it, heaps of people here know it, on and on I could go. So again I get back to my main issue, which is: When and until vaccines and their preseratives, antibiotics, adjuvants etc are proven safe in EVERY aspect using the guildlines as set out in the Sears article for a start, I reserve my right to be concerned enough not give any further vaccines to myself or my family when and until they are old enough to choose for themselves. Go back to studying Martin, I'm sure you are doing something more worthwhile than this. I'm logging out :)

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Suzy Que

Are you going to stop wearing seatbelts now? Because they also have the potential to cause serious injury in an accident. You might go flying through the windshield, but hey, as long as you're not seatbelt-injured, right?

Your argument is a moot point in the face of the fact that every time you walk out the front door of your home, you're taking a risk. A calculated risk. Everything is a risk. EVERYTHING!!!! Calculating the risk of the vaccines vs the risk of facing the disease is part of...

Are you going to stop wearing seatbelts now? Because they also have the potential to cause serious injury in an accident. You might go flying through the windshield, but hey, as long as you're not seatbelt-injured, right?

Your argument is a moot point in the face of the fact that every time you walk out the front door of your home, you're taking a risk. A calculated risk. Everything is a risk. EVERYTHING!!!! Calculating the risk of the vaccines vs the risk of facing the disease is part of the process, and yes, vaccines are NOT perfect, but you are facing a FAR greater risk by not being vaccinated. So are you going to reserve the right to refuse to wear seatbelts as well?

Your risk perception is skewed by a number of things, not the least of which is your own arrogant self-assuredness. But there is nothing more worthwhile for me than making sure your crackpot ideas don't spread into any more of the population than the minority they already possess, which is why I'm studying journalism. Believe it or not, this is what I do. This and Xbox, of course.

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Suzy Que

No 1 - there are millions of adults that were vaccinated as children that have developed just fine. Before vaccines, life expectancy was shorter, infant mortality rates were higher, and families were breeding like bunnies to keep up

No 2 - probably many. There are so many tiny irrelevant ones that may just go unnoticed. They are the most common, and most well known. Most parents don't even report crying, because that's what babies do - they cry.

No 3 - because an unvaccinated group...

No 1 - there are millions of adults that were vaccinated as children that have developed just fine. Before vaccines, life expectancy was shorter, infant mortality rates were higher, and families were breeding like bunnies to keep up

No 2 - probably many. There are so many tiny irrelevant ones that may just go unnoticed. They are the most common, and most well known. Most parents don't even report crying, because that's what babies do - they cry.

No 3 - because an unvaccinated group wouldn't be a control, because there are a pile of variables to consider, such as what the purpose of the testing would be in the first place. If it's autism, then an unvaccinated group is most certainly not a control group - it has been well established that autism occurs at the same rate in the unvaccinated as it does in the vaccinated.

Lynne Batik
Lynne Batik
  • Suzy Que

As an addition to No 3, because doctors must rely on those children who are selected out by their parents for an unvaccinated group, and these still make up a small minority -- and it is completely unethical to *create* an unvaccinated group, because the dangers of the diseases and the efficacy of vaccines against disease are already very well known and documented. There isn't an ethics review board in the world which would approve deliberately withholding the standard vaccines from...

As an addition to No 3, because doctors must rely on those children who are selected out by their parents for an unvaccinated group, and these still make up a small minority -- and it is completely unethical to *create* an unvaccinated group, because the dangers of the diseases and the efficacy of vaccines against disease are already very well known and documented. There isn't an ethics review board in the world which would approve deliberately withholding the standard vaccines from children, because some of those children would die because of the lack. It's what happens when you don't vaccinate against potentially fatal diseases.

And not all the squawking in the world by the anti-vaccinationists who cannot bring themselves to accept or understand this, can change it.

Lynne Batik
Lynne Batik
  • Suzy Que

The problems with this are very clearly explained here -- as is the German study on vaccinated vs. unvaccinated which I later saw mangled, distorted and utterly misreported on "NaturalNews" and other such anti-vaccine sources:

http://www.vaccinetimes.com/the-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated-study-a-k-a-the-german-study/
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/03/11/for-the-anti-vaccinationists-out-there-t/

Alan James Greaves
Alan James Greaves

Where are these disease they are no where to be seen, only vaccinated suffer the effects of diseases and victims of voodoo vaccines are covered up with relabeling their true conditions caused by the lethal vaccine poison, most drs do not report the victims because it would mean their wages would be reduced or they will be struck of from practicing in the corrupt field of medicine. Have you not been getting the CDC hints that vaccines create zombies and we call them pro-vaccine zombies but zombies (abbreviated of course).

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Alan James Greaves

Did you know that the diseases are rare these days because vaccines have been so successful? If vaccines are so lethal, then why are there millions of vaccinated people living healthy lives all over the world? Vaccines create zombies? That's a new one. If that was the case, the CDC wouldn't hint it, they would say it. You, sir, are a first-rate nut job.

Mistie Delorey
Mistie Delorey
  • Alan James Greaves

Actually the U.S. vaccinates the most of any country and has the highest infant and child death rates Martin, also if you take the time to look up the proper graphs you will see that all of the diseases that now have vaccines were essentially wiped out just prior to the introduction of each of their appropriate vaccines. Although I would not go so far as to say that vaccines create zombies, there is overwhelming evidence that vaccines are in some way responsible for our learning disability,...

Actually the U.S. vaccinates the most of any country and has the highest infant and child death rates Martin, also if you take the time to look up the proper graphs you will see that all of the diseases that now have vaccines were essentially wiped out just prior to the introduction of each of their appropriate vaccines. Although I would not go so far as to say that vaccines create zombies, there is overwhelming evidence that vaccines are in some way responsible for our learning disability, autism, seizures and SIDS epidemics in the western world. Not to mention the awakening of all the parents who are witnessing these conditions transpire. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5vpZSLW4ds
I don't have time to re-research all this and post it all but these are a few areas you might want to brush up on.

Bridie Burke
Bridie Burke
  • Alan James Greaves

HIghest rate of infant and child death ratees? Oh please...show me the studies that show this. But I am guessing you won't, because their are none. You just *know* it right? There isn't enough tinfoil in the world to respond to the comments on here.

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Alan James Greaves

More correlation. Actually, the highest infant and child mortality rates are not in the US, and if you take the time to look up some real information that isn't biased, you'll find out which countries do (I'll give you a hint, they're in Africa and other parts of the third world). Diseases weren't wiped out prior to the vaccines - mortality was in decline, but the incidence rates did not decline until the introduction of vaccines. I have autism, and there is overwhelming evidence that it was...

More correlation. Actually, the highest infant and child mortality rates are not in the US, and if you take the time to look up some real information that isn't biased, you'll find out which countries do (I'll give you a hint, they're in Africa and other parts of the third world). Diseases weren't wiped out prior to the vaccines - mortality was in decline, but the incidence rates did not decline until the introduction of vaccines. I have autism, and there is overwhelming evidence that it was not caused by vaccines, and if SIDS was caused by vaccines, then it wouldn't be called SIDS. Have you listened to yourself lately? Parents who witness medical issues transpiring are seeing only part of the picture, the part that allows them to connect a correlation, but that is all. I'm sure you've done your research, but you've done it wrong, and I'm sure there are many areas that we both need to brush up on - me because I don't pretend I know everything, and you because you're clearly very mistaken.

Christopher Panzer
Christopher Panzer
  • Alan James Greaves

Autistic or not, Martin Bouchaert, there is no need for name calling.

Bridie Burke
Bridie Burke
  • Alan James Greaves

Christopher, am I missing something? Where did Martin name call?

Bridie Burke
Bridie Burke
  • Alan James Greaves

Sue Dick I asked you this in another thread, explain to me why allergies/asthma and autoimmune diseases are still found in the unvaccinated then. If it is all down to vaccines as you claim.

Christopher Panzer
Christopher Panzer
  • Alan James Greaves

That's a good one, Birdie. I believe we played like that when we were in grade school.

Wendy Ferris
Wendy Ferris

For all you who have stated that by not immunising our children are the ones who are spreading diseases! lease explain how you came to such a conclusion. Anyway if that was correct why are you worried you have vaccinated your child against the diseases so why are you so worried????

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Wendy Ferris

They are occurring in the vaccinated and unvaccinated alike. But you seem to be of the opinion that the majority are vaccinated - this may be so, but it's important to understand the statistical significance.

The majority of the population is vaccinated - a figure close to 85% is estimated to produce herd immunity. This means that if, out of 100 children, 15 are unvaccinated, and 85 are vaccinated, then the vaccinated children are a majority. So, if 20 vaccinated students get pertussis, and...

They are occurring in the vaccinated and unvaccinated alike. But you seem to be of the opinion that the majority are vaccinated - this may be so, but it's important to understand the statistical significance.

The majority of the population is vaccinated - a figure close to 85% is estimated to produce herd immunity. This means that if, out of 100 children, 15 are unvaccinated, and 85 are vaccinated, then the vaccinated children are a majority. So, if 20 vaccinated students get pertussis, and 15 (all) unvaccinated students get pertussis, then indeed, there are more vaccinated children getting it than vaccinated.

But when compared to the 65 children that don't get it, because they are vaccinated, you are looking at a successful vaccine. Of course, I have weighted these numbers inaccurately but on purpose to highlight a point - the vaccine is far more effective than that, and the unvaccinated are more susceptible to pertussis than the vaccinated.

Lisa Brooker
Lisa Brooker
  • Wendy Ferris

Vaccinations are there to help arent they? I want to help protect my child against diseases and illnesses

Wendy Ferris
Wendy Ferris
  • Wendy Ferris

If that was the case how come in Cananda a few months ago 100% vaccinated against the whooping cough yet 98% caught whooping cough.

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Wendy Ferris

Don't know where you got those numbers, but they are bogus

Wendy Ferris
Wendy Ferris
  • Wendy Ferris

"In conclusion, vaccines are a perfect manifestation of everything that is satanic. They represent an adulterous and arrogant tampering with divine creation, based on the intellectual conceit of "perfecting" creation. They are poisonous, containing derivatives from metals such as mercury and aluminum, and from formaldehyde. They are made from the cell lines and viruses of biblically unclean animals such as monkeys, cats, etc. Worst of all, they are made from the cell lines of premeditatedly...

"In conclusion, vaccines are a perfect manifestation of everything that is satanic. They represent an adulterous and arrogant tampering with divine creation, based on the intellectual conceit of "perfecting" creation. They are poisonous, containing derivatives from metals such as mercury and aluminum, and from formaldehyde. They are made from the cell lines and viruses of biblically unclean animals such as monkeys, cats, etc. Worst of all, they are made from the cell lines of premeditatedly murdered children. When such abortion-derived vaccines are injected into other living human beings, a subtle form of cannibalism has occurred, a satanic sacrament has been partaken of, straight from the "table of demons" (1 Cor. 10:21)." -Bob Sperlazzo

Wendy Ferris
Wendy Ferris
  • Wendy Ferris

Lisa have you read any books on vaccines? Just wondering. Please educate before vaccinate. Both my sons are never had a vaccine and I breastfeed them both till they were 4years old. I Beleive that is so much better for there health then vaccines and formula. Both those products are just making the pharmaceutical comPanies richer.

Lisa Brooker
Lisa Brooker
  • Wendy Ferris

So the hospitals are giving out harmful vaccines that cause 'ill health' ... Why do they exist if according to you all they are so harmful? My son is 1 and he has never been ill.

Wendy Ferris
Wendy Ferris
  • Wendy Ferris

In one word YES. Have you read the inserts of the vaccine packages. HI will send you one and it lists the side effects.

Kalpana Verma
Kalpana Verma

my daughter has never been vaccinated. but I am not happy as awareness about not being vaccinated is negligible.this issue should be on large scale so that every child in our country should be vaccine free.

Cathy Perger
Cathy Perger
  • Kalpana Verma

I think Flu shots compromise the bodys natural ability to fight infection. The only time I think they should be administred is to children and older people with extreme health issues. The Goverment always says the stuff they want us to pump in our bodies is safe, don't believe it! Let the body do what is was designed to do without intervention from Government and Scientists.

Lori Harvey
Lori Harvey
  • Kalpana Verma

Children in the U.S. are the most vaccinated in all of the world yet they are the most sick. Why? Because of vaccinations. Deaths from childhood illnesses, even the one they did NOT come out with vaccines for all went down prior the vaccines coming out. Better food, better water & better sanitation. If vaccinated people were such a danger, then outbreaks would be bigger. As it is, the outbreaks of whooping cough & measles have been the fully vaccinated population NOT the unvaccinated. ...

Children in the U.S. are the most vaccinated in all of the world yet they are the most sick. Why? Because of vaccinations. Deaths from childhood illnesses, even the one they did NOT come out with vaccines for all went down prior the vaccines coming out. Better food, better water & better sanitation. If vaccinated people were such a danger, then outbreaks would be bigger. As it is, the outbreaks of whooping cough & measles have been the fully vaccinated population NOT the unvaccinated. Millions of people are not up to date on their boosters, yet most illnesses are kept in check. Polio has NOT disappeared, it has been relabed as aseptic meningitis. The fungal meningitis that is currently being publicized has been among the fully vaccinated population. Wow, no surprise there. Vit. D3 has been proven by a study done in Tokyo is 800% more effective at preventing the flu than the flu shot. Do your homework before you inject your kids with toxic substances.

Jared Hyames
Jared Hyames
  • Kalpana Verma

You're entitled to your opinion, and yet you are not entitled to your own facts. If vaccination is a conspiracy by the government, wouldn't the government want healthy workers? If the government needs money, needs taxes, needs fit healthy workers, wouldn't the smartest thing be making sure as many children see through childhood to become tax payers?

Joe Jared
Joe Jared
  • Kalpana Verma

Our daughter has never been vaccinated and never been sick. Making a person sick to prevent them from getting sick makes as much sense as going to war for peace.

Kalpana Verma
Kalpana Verma
  • Kalpana Verma

my daughter has never been vaccinated. but I am not happy as awareness about not being vaccinated is negligible.this issue should be on large scale so that every child in our country should be vaccine free.

Vipin Kanoujiya
Vipin Kanoujiya
  • Kalpana Verma

bravo mam.......mere bacche bhi vaccinate nahi honge mam....promise hahahahahahaha

Lara Lohne
Lara Lohne
  • Kalpana Verma

There is no way you will ever convince me, nor anyone who has suffered through any VPD or watched their child suffer through one, to not get vaccines for myself and my children. I hopefully have instilled in them enough common sense and logic so they too will be able to read and understand the value of vaccines for their own children. I don't believe I will live to see it, but I look forward to the day when the vaccine program has been proven so effective that the most dangerous and deadly...

There is no way you will ever convince me, nor anyone who has suffered through any VPD or watched their child suffer through one, to not get vaccines for myself and my children. I hopefully have instilled in them enough common sense and logic so they too will be able to read and understand the value of vaccines for their own children. I don't believe I will live to see it, but I look forward to the day when the vaccine program has been proven so effective that the most dangerous and deadly diseases are gone and the vaccines for them will no longer be needed.

Jared Hyames
Jared Hyames
  • Kalpana Verma

baahahahaha Homeopathic medical college ... come on.. is that a joke? Homeopathy is just water... and 200 years of no evidence otherwise...

come on, is this some big prank? are you guys having me on?
The people on the internet can't be this stupid can they?

Jared Hyames
Jared Hyames

You're entitled to your opinion, and yet you are not entitled to your own facts. If vaccination is a conspiracy by the government, wouldn't the government want healthy workers? If the government needs money, needs taxes, needs fit healthy workers, wouldn't the smartest thing be making sure as many children see through childhood to become tax payers?

Sarah Jones-Hill
Sarah Jones-Hill
  • Jared Hyames

People shit me. We are lucky enough to live in a country where our children are vaccinated and parents don't appreciate what a prvilidge it is. Freedom of choice should be replaced with the right to be an idiot.

Donna Eliassen
Donna Eliassen
  • Jared Hyames

I used to use the same argument in the days when I too was ignorant and thought my government wouldn't do what its doing and yada yada yada. The horrible truth (and it took me quite a few years before I would even contemplate swallowing it) is the drug/vaccine industry is a billion dollar industry. Governments, pollies and Drs all get huge handouts for promoting and using the drugs... it's a terrific form of income for them and it's very lucrative and that is why none of them are going to...

I used to use the same argument in the days when I too was ignorant and thought my government wouldn't do what its doing and yada yada yada. The horrible truth (and it took me quite a few years before I would even contemplate swallowing it) is the drug/vaccine industry is a billion dollar industry. Governments, pollies and Drs all get huge handouts for promoting and using the drugs... it's a terrific form of income for them and it's very lucrative and that is why none of them are going to stop it any time soon. It's why governments will now tell us smoking will kill us and we can't smoke here and there... but the taxes they make off smokers means they will never ban the sale of it.

Donna Eliassen
Donna Eliassen
  • Jared Hyames

Yes and sadly there are hundreds of thousands of parents around the world whose children are now dead or severely life injured, enjoying the right to be an idiot. :) They are now a lot wiser than you. They have done their research, out of necessity. You have clearly done none and it is pretty obvious who the idiot is.

Jared Hyames
Jared Hyames
  • Jared Hyames

you may be correct, it could be one big pile of kick backs, corruption and whatever else conspiracy feels nice tonight... Doesn't take away the science and the research and the countless individuals who developed the most effective health measures in history..

Jared Hyames
Jared Hyames
  • Jared Hyames

Sue, I hope your research didn't go along these lines....
SCIENCE - government, medical experts, pro vaccine, WHO, every medical teaching university, every hospital...

ANTI-Vaccine -- google search, unqualified cranks on the internet, homeopaths, naturopathy, Meryl Dorey (no qualifications at all), Vera Scheibner (geologist yay!)

Those two views are not ballanced...

Jared Hyames
Jared Hyames
  • Jared Hyames

AHHHH the post modernists won the post modernists won... ahhrrhrhrhrhhhgghghh

Suzy Que
Suzy Que
  • Jared Hyames

Yes jared she was a biologist...you're right for once.
5. PREVIOUS RESEARCH INTEREST AND PUBLICATIONS: 1953-1986

My first scientific paper in Micropalaeontology of the Cretaceous Sequences of the Carpathian Klippen Belt in Slovakia was published whilst I was still a student at the JA Comenius University in Bratislava in 1958.

Between 1958-1968 I published some 35 scientific papers (and one monograph) dealing with the Cretaceous and Jurassic Foraminifera of the Carpathian Klippen Belt in...

Yes jared she was a biologist...you're right for once.
5. PREVIOUS RESEARCH INTEREST AND PUBLICATIONS: 1953-1986

My first scientific paper in Micropalaeontology of the Cretaceous Sequences of the Carpathian Klippen Belt in Slovakia was published whilst I was still a student at the JA Comenius University in Bratislava in 1958.

Between 1958-1968 I published some 35 scientific papers (and one monograph) dealing with the Cretaceous and Jurassic Foraminifera of the Carpathian Klippen Belt in Slovakia.

Between 1968-1987 studied Cretaceous and Permian Foraminifera of the Great Australian Basin in New South Wales, and South Australian and the Carnarvon Basins in Western Australia; South Africa and the Indian Peninsula; and Permian Foraminifera of the Sydney Basin.

Between 1972-1976 invited to participate in the highly prestigious Deep Sea Drilling Project (DSDP) conducted under the auspices of the Scripps Institution of Oceanography (USA), in the Atlantic and Indian Oceans. Results of these studies are published in the Initial Reports of the DSDP. Was invited to write a Synopsis of Cretaceous Foraminifera of the Indian Ocean, published in a monograph “Synopsis of the DSDP in the Indian Ocean”.

Results of my scientific findings spanning almost 30 years of research have been published in further 47 papers and 2 books (monographs) in Australian and overseas (especially USA) refereed scientific journals.

Lectured extensively at Australian and overseas conferences.

Suzy Que
Suzy Que
  • Jared Hyames

Jared Hyams but then......

6. PROFESSIONAL AND RESEARCH ACTIVITIES: 1987-PRESENT

In 1985 I met my second husband, the late Leif Karlsson, a Swedish biomedical electronics engineer specialising in patient monitoring systems, whom I suggested to develop a breathing monitor for babies.

Since 1987 we were both engaged in the study of babies’ breathing with a microprocessor breathing monitor Cotwatch developed by the late Leif Karlsson.

1990-1993: published a series of articles on...

Jared Hyams but then......

6. PROFESSIONAL AND RESEARCH ACTIVITIES: 1987-PRESENT

In 1985 I met my second husband, the late Leif Karlsson, a Swedish biomedical electronics engineer specialising in patient monitoring systems, whom I suggested to develop a breathing monitor for babies.

Since 1987 we were both engaged in the study of babies’ breathing with a microprocessor breathing monitor Cotwatch developed by the late Leif Karlsson.

1990-1993: published a series of articles on vaccination and cot death in Natural Health Magazine.

1991: Invited to present the results of the data collection on babies’ breathing to the Second Immunisation Conference, a pro-vaccination conference organised by the Public Health Association of Australia (Canberra May 1991). An abstract of my presentation is published in the Proceedings of this conference (“Evidence of the Association between non-specific stress syndrome, DPT injections and cot death”.

Some results of these and allied studies, in which Cotwatch breathing monitor was used as a research tool collecting information on stress response in breathing, were published in a referred medical journal ”Reproductive Toxicology” (1993; 7: 449-452).

1993: Published the book “Vaccination” (296 pp) which is based on an extensive study of vaccination issues as published in refereed medical journals. This book has been published in German by Hirthammer Verlag, in Dutch by Lemniscaat Publishers and in Finnish by Kustantaja Lasse Vajaranta.

1994: Produced a 2-hour video of my lecture on the dangers and ineffectiveness of vaccination.

1994: The article “Embracing vaccination…lamentably wrong” published in the Chiropractic Journal (USA). Similar articles were published in other chiropractic journals. Lectured for students of chiropractic at a number of chiropractic colleges in the USA.

1995: Invited and accepted as an expert on vaccination and cot death by the College of Physicians Montreal (Canada) and on 11 December 1995 gave evidence on the subject of “Vaccination and Cot Death” before the Disciplinary Committee of the College of Physicians Montreal (Canada) as an expert for Dr Guillaine Lanctot.

Since 1996 I provide expert reports for Court cases of vaccine injuries and deaths. To this day I have been asked and prepared some 90 reports for Shaken Baby Syndrome (SBS) cases and/or vaccine injury compensation cases in the USA, UK, Germany, Iceland, Sweden and Australia.

1996: Invited to deliver a luncheon talk on dangers and ineffectiveness of vaccination to the medical staff of the Research Hospital in Kansas City, MO, USA.

1996-1997: Several lectures at Chiropractic Colleges in the USA.

In 1996 I participated in the Maroochydore (Queensland, Australia) hearing of the Equal Opportunity and Anti-discrimination Commission as an expert on the dangers and ineffectiveness of vaccination, and the link between vaccination and cot death.

1997: Followed an invitation to deliver a lecture at a seminar organised by a professional organization of Dutch medical doctors in Utrecht, Holland “Vaccination, yes or no?”

1997: Invited to present a lecture on the Dangers of Vaccination by the Faculty of Nursing, Sydney University.

1997: Participated in a public debate on vaccination at Sydney University in Sydney.

1997-1998: Invited to participate in the Training Program of the Royal Australian College of General Practitioners (RACGP), Sydney, New South Wales, as one of two expert panelists in debates on whether immunisation should or should not be mandatory, presenting the case against vaccination based on the study of published orthodox medical research.

1991 to 2005 published series of articles “The SIDS and Vaccination Link”, “The Brain Eating Bugs, the Vaccine Connection”, “Shaken Baby Syndrome – The Vaccination Link”, and a 2-part article on “Preservatives and Adjuvants in Vaccines” in the Nexus Magazine (Australia). In 2005 The Nexus Magazine in Australia and other countries reprinted my article “Dynamics of Critical Days as part of the Dynamics of Non-specific Stress Syndrome discovered during monitoring with Cotwatch Breathing Monitor”, first published in Journal of Australasian College of Nutritional and Environmental Medicine (J ACNEM), December 2004.

1998: Invited to address the Medical (MBOG) Congress in Utrecht (Holland) on the “Effect of Vaccination on the Immune System”.

1998: Invited to participate in a debate on vaccination convened by the organization WDDTY (“What Doctors Don’t Tell you”) in London, UK.

1999-2003: a number of Letters to the Editor, critical of vaccines, published in Medical Observer and Australian Doctor, two prominent weekly publications for Australian orthodox medical doctors.

2000: Published the book “Behavioural Problems in Childhood – the Link To Vaccination”. The book has been translated into Swedish by an organisation of parents dealing with children’s health.

2001: Published a paper “Shaken Baby Syndrome Diagnosis on Shaky Ground” in the Journal of Australasian College of Nutritional and Environmental Medicine (J ACNEM); 20(2): 5-8&15.

2003: Published a Letter requested by the Editor of the Journal “Vaccine” (1993; 22:VI-IX) countering the personal attack on myself as a public opponent of vaccination by Leask and McIntyre.

2004-2005: British Medical Journal (BMJ.com Rapid Responses) published a number of my letters to the Editor – see the enclosed list of publications.

Since 1994 I traveled extensively all over Australia, Europe, United Kingdom, Republic of Ireland, Scandinavia, the USA and Canada, holding seminars on the dangers and ineffectiveness of vaccination, as documented by orthodox medical research, for parents and health and medical professionals.

My task is perceived as that of liaising with paediatricians and other medical experts and of evaluation of the scientific research dealing with vaccination issues in general and more particularly with mass vaccination of infants and children. I have gathered a solid, extensive and irrefutable block of scientific evidence documenting vaccines as ineffective to prevent diseases, and which time and again issued warnings about a variety of real dangers, including brain haemorrhages and other brain damage, and retinal haemorrhages and other ophthalmological injuries and including death. The biological mechanisms of these injuries are principally immunological and toxic-chemical. My task is to analyse medical records and results of medical tests of the babies adversely affected or killed by vaccination and document the damage by case examples of the same vaccine damage described in orthodox medical literature.

An additional major subject of my research is immunological and other non-accidental injuries in babies who suffered medication (antibiotics and pain killers) and/or birth injuries and document the damage (including death) by case examples of identical non-accidental injuries as a result of iatrogenic (doctor-caused) immune or other disorders as described in medical literature.

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