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Bridie Burke
Bridie Burke

http://www.cfr.org/interactives/GH_Vaccine_Map/index.html#map

An interactive map of the outbreaks that are currently happening around the world. USA, mumps, measles and whooping cough. Who even knew mumps was still around in the developed nations. And look at Europe. Scary.

Mindy Utz
Mindy Utz
  • Bridie Burke

Show an interactive map of autism in all 50 states and around the world. Now you're just grasping at straws. It's tiresome. I'm dismissing you because you can't even debate with ALL the facts. Showing one side does not prove anything and you know it. Now...you're going in time out because I refuse to watch you talk in circles any longer. If you can be a big girl, I might let you out.

Andrea Leong
Andrea Leong
  • Bridie Burke

Mindy, why show the incidence of something unrelated to vaccines?

Bridie Burke
Bridie Burke
  • Bridie Burke

Mandatory vaccinations against which diseases? You'll find if you do (a very easy amount of research) that the MMR is not on the mandatory list for the countries experiencing outbreaks.
This from the WHO - WHO says that the surge in cases is due to not enough children having received vaccination, especially those who are now between the ages of 10 and 19. As a result of the accumulation of unvaccinated children over the years, the herd immunity for the population has been lost and the...

Mandatory vaccinations against which diseases? You'll find if you do (a very easy amount of research) that the MMR is not on the mandatory list for the countries experiencing outbreaks.
This from the WHO - WHO says that the surge in cases is due to not enough children having received vaccination, especially those who are now between the ages of 10 and 19. As a result of the accumulation of unvaccinated children over the years, the herd immunity for the population has been lost and the disease can spread quickly among the susceptible, causing severe illness and sometimes death. When herd immunity is lost, those who are too young to be vaccinated are at much higher risk of catching the disease.

This is a list of Mandatory vaccinations in Europe
http://venice.cineca.org/Report_II_WP3.pdf

So really all it shows, is that you haven't done your research, like most anti vaxxers. Thanks for proving that again.

Bridie Burke
Bridie Burke
  • Bridie Burke

Mindy - why post on my post when you have blocked me so I can't see what you have written? It is so bizarre.

Stephanie Marie
Stephanie Marie
  • Bridie Burke

http://www.cidd.psu.edu/research/synopses/acellular-vaccine-enhancement-b.-parapertussis Some people need to do a bit more research over the pertussis outbreak. The pertussis vaccine is encouraging parapertussis to colonize which makes them contagious for parapertussis the symptoms are the same so its all called whooping cough. So yes the vaccines are causing the outbreak.

Bridie Burke
Bridie Burke
  • Bridie Burke

I think you are the one that needs to do some research mate. Here you go, http://lymphosite.wordpress.com/2012/10/03/40_times_less_credible/ So you see, the vaccine still protects against the worse bacteria, hmm, let me see, protected against the more virulent and deadly strain, or not protected at all?? Which would I prefer?

Andrea Leong
Andrea Leong
  • Bridie Burke

Stephanie: That study has been taken out of context. Here's the original article: http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/early/2010/02/26/rspb.2010.0010.full

Mice were given the vaccine or a saline placebo, then infected via nasal spray. It's impossible to tell whether colonisation is more or less likely after vaccination, as every single mouse was colonised at the start of the experiment. The study observed how well/quickly the mice cleared the bacteria.

Indeed, there was 40x more...

Stephanie: That study has been taken out of context. Here's the original article: http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/early/2010/02/26/rspb.2010.0010.full

Mice were given the vaccine or a saline placebo, then infected via nasal spray. It's impossible to tell whether colonisation is more or less likely after vaccination, as every single mouse was colonised at the start of the experiment. The study observed how well/quickly the mice cleared the bacteria.

Indeed, there was 40x more B.parapertussis bacteria in the lungs of vaxed mice after 1-2 weeks (figure 1d). And, after infection with a mixture of B.pertussis and B.parapertussis, vaxed mice cleared B.parapertussis slower (1c). It's an interesting result that warrants further investigation.

Importantly, both vaxed and unvaxed mice completely cleared B.parapertussis a few weeks later, i.e. the outcome of B.parapertussis infection appears similar regardless of vax status.

Oh wait, what about the more virulent B.pertussis? Well, there was 700x LESS B.pertussis bacteria in the lungs of vaxed mice (1b). The vaxed mice completely cleared B.pertussis within 2 weeks, while the unvaxed mice were still getting rid of it after 5 weeks (1a).

Here's the authors' conclusion:
"It may be important to consider the introduction of vaccines that better protect against both bordetellae [...] An enhanced understanding of [...] aP vaccination is needed in order to optimize the next generation of vaccination strategies and fully reap the benefits of this powerful medical intervention."

PS - This comments app is the worst! Lost this post once, typed it in notepad the second time. I swear it's refreshing quicker and quicker each time.

Bridie Burke
Bridie Burke
  • Bridie Burke

And no reply.

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Bridie Burke

Stephanie Scoyne what... another complete misinterpretation of the science by an antivaxer? I suppose you're not interested in the facts, just your subjective bias. But the fact is that the vaccine is not causing the outbreak. You're right about some people needing to do more research - I'm just not sure you're willing to look in a mirror and tell that to the person that needs to hear it most.

Suzy Que
Suzy Que

So here's a question....and jared I would be happy not to hear from you...you make no sense whatsoever, hopefully as you age your mind will open. (btw....qualifications? You keep assessing everyone else on their lack of...what are yours, naturepathy isn't it? At least that's what you FB says).
There is an ever increasing number of vaccines being created all the time, these are added to the schedule continuously. So when I was a baby, 1969, I had DPT and measles vaccination, (which by the way...

So here's a question....and jared I would be happy not to hear from you...you make no sense whatsoever, hopefully as you age your mind will open. (btw....qualifications? You keep assessing everyone else on their lack of...what are yours, naturepathy isn't it? At least that's what you FB says).
There is an ever increasing number of vaccines being created all the time, these are added to the schedule continuously. So when I was a baby, 1969, I had DPT and measles vaccination, (which by the way I still got measles and got it REALLY badly.)
Today the authorities recommend Hep B at birth, then rotavirus, tetanus, HIB, polio, Diphtheria, Whooping cough, Hep B, pneumoccoal: 8 diseases when a baby is 8 weeks old.
Then at 16 weeks another 8 diseases, 24 weeks another 8 diseases, then at 52 weeks another 6 diseases for a grand total of 31 doses of vaccines by 12 months of age in Australia, even more in the U.S.A.
“The immune system in young children does not work as well as the immune system in older children and adults, because it is still immature. Therefore more doses of vaccine are needed.” (Aust Gov dept of H and A).
So my question is: How many vaccines are too many? Are the people here that are comfortable with vaccination happy to give their children…or themselves 35 doses, 40 doses as more and more diseases that “must” be avoided are added to the schedule? When do alarm bells start ringing for you?

“Another reason why children get many immunisations is that new vaccines against serious infections continue to be developed. The number of injections is reduced by the use of combination vaccines, where several vaccines are combined into one shot.” (Aust Gov dept of health and aging.)

And it must be kept in mind that with each of these vaccinations the toxins that are being delivered to the baby’s body are also increasing. Toxins including: Aluminium hydroxide, hydrated (Al(OH)3), lactose, sodium chloride, aluminium hydroxide, aluminium phosphate, phenoxyethanol , potassium chloride, polysorbate 20 and 80, formaldehyde, glycine, sodium phosphate dibasic dihydrate, potassium phosphate monobasic, neomycin sulfate and polymyxin B sulfate.

“In the first months of life, a baby is protected from most infectious diseases by antibodies from her or his mother, which are transferred to the baby during pregnancy. When these antibodies wear off, the baby is at risk of serious infections and so the first immunisations are given before these antibodies have gone.”(Aust Dept of H and A).

http://www.gsk.com.au/resources.ashx/vaccineproductschilddataproinfo/362/FileName/D58F401484B3F7CD68FBC0A2D3A1D77D/Infanrix_Hexa_(Preservative_containing)_v4_0_clean_PDF.pdf
HEP B INGREDIENTS:
The active ingredient of ENGERIX-B is the surface protein of the hepatitis B virus, derived from genetically engineered yeast cells. The vaccine is not infectious, and will not give you the hepatitis B virus.
Inactive ingredients in the vaccine are: aluminium hydroxide, sodium phosphate, sodium chloride (salt), sodium acid phosphate, polysorbate 20 and water. A very small amount of thiomersal may also be present.
ENGERIX-B is made without any human blood or blood products, or any other substances of human origin.
The manufacture of this product includes exposure to bovine derived materials. No evidence exists that any case of vCJD (considered to be the human form of bovine spongiform encephalopathy) has resulted from the administration of any vaccine product.

Rotavirus vaccine – live attenuated oral: There is a potential risk for transmission to non-vaccinated contacts.

All of this info is taken from Government websites of the manufacturers of the vaccine. THIS is where I get my information from and what I have read and learnt from these websites causes me great concern.

Jared Hyams
Jared Hyams
  • Suzy Que

I'm not sure that you want an answer to your question. Maybe you could ask an expert in that field? (an actual expert, one who could, for example explain to you the differences between aluminum hydroxide, aluminum peroxide and the scary sounding aluminum we wouldn't want to inject into our bodies)

There would be people out there who could reassure your fears. I would hope you would have the integrity and intelligence to be able to listen to someone qualified to talk on the subject.

Suzy Que
Suzy Que
  • Suzy Que

I wouldn't have asked if i didn't want an answer. How many is too many to the people here? I have asked you 3 times now what your qualifications are to critisize professionals. Are you avoiding this question or what?

Suzy Que
Suzy Que
  • Suzy Que

"The hepatitis B vaccine given at birth contains 250 mcg of aluminum – 20 times higher than safety levels … Babies who have followed the CDC immunization schedule are injected with nearly 5000 mcg (5 mg) of aluminum by 18 months of age."[8]
But it's all bullshit isn't Jared??
You tell me what is a safe level of Al in a human body?

Jared Hyams
Jared Hyams
  • Suzy Que

There is established science.... (noting that there is no controversy within the scientific consensus) and then there are unqualified idiots making claims on the internet...
When making grand claims, like anti-vaxers do, it is not up to the person calling the bullshit to prove anything... The evidence is all on one side. It is up to the claimant to prove the new theory and undo all the known medical knowledge.

Jared Hyams
Jared Hyams
  • Suzy Que

the quote about aluminum 20 times higher is probably made up.. if hep B vaccine contains 250 mcg and breat milk contains 10,000 mcg .... So which one is more dangerous? Better stop those mothers breastfeeding

Suzy Que
Suzy Que
  • Suzy Que

I read your link and now here’s a link for you, and don’t disregard it because it has Mercola attached to it who you no doubt consider a quack, he didn’t write it:

http://mercola.fileburst.com/PDF/Aluminum_in_Vaccines.pdf

It’s by Neil Z Miller…a member of Mensa….but a quack by your standards just the same eh Jared?
If you bother to read it, you’ll see the above post regarding Al levels in vaccines was not made up as you accuse.

And finally this:

“Aluminum is not perceived, I believe by...

I read your link and now here’s a link for you, and don’t disregard it because it has Mercola attached to it who you no doubt consider a quack, he didn’t write it:

http://mercola.fileburst.com/PDF/Aluminum_in_Vaccines.pdf

It’s by Neil Z Miller…a member of Mensa….but a quack by your standards just the same eh Jared?
If you bother to read it, you’ll see the above post regarding Al levels in vaccines was not made up as you accuse.

And finally this:

“Aluminum is not perceived, I believe by the public as a dangerous metal. Therefore we are in a much more comfortable wicket in terms of defending its presence in vaccines”
DR JOHN CLEMENTS. WHO VACCINE ADVISOR.
Answer me this Jarod. Am I correct to think that you believe everything put out by Gov Dept’s and pharmaceutical companies, and everyone else speaks “nonsense”?
One other question, do you have children of your own yet?

Jared Hyams
Jared Hyams
  • Suzy Que

So I have to read an article by Neil Miller because he is in Mensa? really? Sharon Stone is in Mensa too, that doesnt mean i listen to her views on medicine

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Suzy Que

did you know that aluminium is the third most abundant element on earth? it doesn't matter what you do, where you go, you're going to be exposed to it, and get it in your blood stream. babies ingest it in breast milk. should we therefore stop breastfeeding?

The dose makes the poison. Drink enough, and water can kill you too. Don't disregard the overwhelming majority of scientists that have done the work that demonstrates no danger from the levels of aluminium in vaccines just because you have a bias against vaccination.

Lori Harvey
Lori Harvey

Children in the U.S. are the most vaccinated in all of the world yet they are the most sick. Why? Because of vaccinations. Deaths from childhood illnesses, even the one they did NOT come out with vaccines for all went down prior the vaccines coming out. Better food, better water & better sanitation. If vaccinated people were such a danger, then outbreaks would be bigger. As it is, the outbreaks of whooping cough & measles have been the fully vaccinated population NOT the unvaccinated. ...

Children in the U.S. are the most vaccinated in all of the world yet they are the most sick. Why? Because of vaccinations. Deaths from childhood illnesses, even the one they did NOT come out with vaccines for all went down prior the vaccines coming out. Better food, better water & better sanitation. If vaccinated people were such a danger, then outbreaks would be bigger. As it is, the outbreaks of whooping cough & measles have been the fully vaccinated population NOT the unvaccinated. Millions of people are not up to date on their boosters, yet most illnesses are kept in check. Polio has NOT disappeared, it has been relabed as aseptic meningitis. The fungal meningitis that is currently being publicized has been among the fully vaccinated population. Wow, no surprise there. Vit. D3 has been proven by a study done in Tokyo is 800% more effective at preventing the flu than the flu shot. Do your homework before you inject your kids with toxic substances.

Jared Hyams
Jared Hyams
  • Lori Harvey

Most of what you said has no basis in reality. I'm trying to look for something backed up by evidence here.. nope .. nothing.. Sorry..

Donna Eliassen
Donna Eliassen
  • Lori Harvey

She is actually citing research done by scientists and others in the medical community - I have read about this myself. Maybe if you did a little research yourself instead of relying on the crap drug companies tell you, you wouldn't need to rely on anyone's word of mouth... I did my own research. What's stopping you or do you prefer to live in ignorance? I believe some people find it blissful.

Jared Hyams
Jared Hyams
  • Lori Harvey

Name two claims in the above nonsense that is backed up by any evidence?

Jared Hyams
Jared Hyams
  • Lori Harvey

"outbreaks of whooping cough and measles have been in the fully vaccinated populations NOT the unvaccinated" WRONG... The unvaccinated population is way over represented in outbreaks..
"Polio has been renamed aspetic meningitis" WRONG... I guess they renamed the polio hospitals 'don't look here nothing to see'

thats two claims that are patently false..

Donna Eliassen
Donna Eliassen
  • Lori Harvey

You are clearly one of those stubborn argumentative types who himself has no evidence to support his own beliefs and so gullible you believe anything told to you. That's okay. I used to be like that too UNTIL I did my OWN research. Stop being so childish and arguing with people - just get off your lazy behind and use Google - there is a wealth of research posted on the internet - and by some very influential people in the industry. It is not up to the rest of the world to hold your hand and wipe your nose for you.

Andrea Leong
Andrea Leong
  • Lori Harvey

Donna, your attitude is terrifying. Whooping cough is about three times more common in the unvaccinated. If you're parroting the "but most of the cases are in the vaccinated, therefore the vaccination increases your risk of infection" line, you need to hit to the books.

Jared Hyams
Jared Hyams
  • Lori Harvey

Use google.. Great advice.. Given that you have absolutely no qualifications in a medical field, what gives you the self delusion to disagree with every major medical body in the world, every medical teaching university, the head of every hospital's infectious disease department, the WHO, CDC, every countries ministry of health.. You, you cretin, you boob, you puny insignificant individual. With the mighty google take out all of them, tell them they are all wrong.. The stupid is monumental...

Caroline Jessica Shipley

The antivax numbers here are not very representative. Meryl Dorey has sent her flying monkeys in to jack up the numbers on the refusal side.

Suzy Que
Suzy Que
  • Caroline Jessica Shipley

So Caroline, you think it would be more accurate if the people who don't vaccinate were not represented? doesn't make a lot of sense Caroline. unlike the people persecuting those who question vaccines, we don't need falsify statistics to prove a point. it's just a fact that the numbers are growing due to genuine concerns for the safety of our children.

Jared Hyams
Jared Hyams
  • Caroline Jessica Shipley

it would be a benefit to have those who don't vaccinate left out yes. Why? Because 99% have absolutely no qualification or education to grant them the platform they seem to want to spout their nonsense... Ignorance and Evidence do not face off in a debate..

Andrea Leong
Andrea Leong
  • Caroline Jessica Shipley

"we don't need falsify statistics to prove a point"

...

Suzy Que
Suzy Que
  • Caroline Jessica Shipley

It's a survey jared you fool! If this was purely to see how many people would vaccinate a young child today WITHOUT the other options you could have you pro vaccine rant in private without others offering a different veiw but is not what surveys/polls are about. Clearly you do not know how surveys/polls work

Petrice Foxworthy
Petrice Foxworthy
  • Caroline Jessica Shipley

Many people who choose not to vaccinate have done much more research on the subject of vaccinations than the people who vaccinate. I am a doctor who has chosen not to vaccinate. I have read the studies on both sides, looked at the evidence. There are many other doctors who are coming to the same conclusion. Doctors are not given all the info on vaccines while in medical school. We are taught that vaccines are safe and effective, end of story. But that is not the end of story. Why are there...

Many people who choose not to vaccinate have done much more research on the subject of vaccinations than the people who vaccinate. I am a doctor who has chosen not to vaccinate. I have read the studies on both sides, looked at the evidence. There are many other doctors who are coming to the same conclusion. Doctors are not given all the info on vaccines while in medical school. We are taught that vaccines are safe and effective, end of story. But that is not the end of story. Why are there no studies comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated children? Why have the last several outbreaks of whooping cough and measles occurred in 95% vaccinated populations? If vaccines were so damn effective, the outbreaks would not occur. So Jared, Caroline, Fara- people who choose not to vaccinate are not ignorant and uneducated.

Jared Hyams
Jared Hyams
  • Caroline Jessica Shipley

Petrice, if you are actually a doctor, you are a disgrace to the medical profession. Please do not subject anyone to your unscientific ways of thinking.. In the arguments you put forward, you betray the lie you said earlier. "looked at the evidence" .. Clearly not. If you had looked at the evidence, you wouldn't be making such basic mistakes in logic, and fact.
Why are there no studies comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated? How do you want me to answer? With the epidemiological studies that...

Petrice, if you are actually a doctor, you are a disgrace to the medical profession. Please do not subject anyone to your unscientific ways of thinking.. In the arguments you put forward, you betray the lie you said earlier. "looked at the evidence" .. Clearly not. If you had looked at the evidence, you wouldn't be making such basic mistakes in logic, and fact.
Why are there no studies comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated? How do you want me to answer? With the epidemiological studies that do compare the two populations, or with the ethical reasons why a clinical trial could not be carried out? Did you seriously attend a medical school?

Jared Hyams
Jared Hyams
  • Caroline Jessica Shipley

correction.. I just googled your name Petrice.. Nice try... You are a Chiropractor.. not a doctor... You implied quite dishonestly that you were a doctor, and insinuated medical school. That is the way of the anti-vaccinator.. always looking for that dishonest step up in the debate.... Seriously.. This page is bringing the lols... You're not a Doctor Petrice.... but nice try.... lol

Petrice Foxworthy
Petrice Foxworthy
  • Caroline Jessica Shipley

And do you know where I have gotten my info from- Medical doctors, medical journals, medical books.

Jared Hyams
Jared Hyams
  • Caroline Jessica Shipley

Still Petrice, you tried to pass yourself off as a real 'doctor' .. You are not. Your ability to be honest is sorely limited. Granted, those observations don't invalidate your claims.... I've read quite a lor that say Chiropractic is bullshit. from - Medical doctors, medical journals, medical books..

Sharon Kocpek
Sharon Kocpek

every one get your flu shot please.

Dave Hawkes
Dave Hawkes
  • Sharon Kocpek

Influenza is a virus. It doesn't care whether you eat organic or not. This year has not been a particularly bad flu year which is great. However these viruses tend to go in waves. If you have small children, or come in contact with those that do, or the elderly or the chronically ill then getting the flu vaccine is a way in which you can contribute to these people having better health outcomes.

Scott Hansen
Scott Hansen
  • Sharon Kocpek

Seriously, your children are too important to simply rely on exercise and diet alone. Of course the flu vaccine is necessary.

Do we think turning to "legal drugs" is helping? In the case of vaccination - yes. Any person that would rather listen to drooling conspiracy theorists rather than actual health professionals seriously need to take stock of their priorities and wake up to reality.

Jared Hyams
Jared Hyams
  • Sharon Kocpek

to answer your questions in their order. People seems to be getting less sick. I have no friends with Polio, measles, typhoid... Do I think turning to legal drugs is really helping, yes. For sure. Can even back that up with the statistics too..

Suzy Que
Suzy Que
  • Sharon Kocpek

Jared, so typhoid, measles and polio may not be the issue they once were, but we have replaced those diseases with other ones that are just as deadly, just as dangerous and in my view diseases to be very concerned about. MS is one of them, so is cancer, so is diabetes, so is Alzheimers. Parkinsons is another that is marked as increasing over the coming decades. Then there is autism, ADD, learning disorders………the list goes on. You cannot say, and neither can anyone else, that the reasons for...

Jared, so typhoid, measles and polio may not be the issue they once were, but we have replaced those diseases with other ones that are just as deadly, just as dangerous and in my view diseases to be very concerned about. MS is one of them, so is cancer, so is diabetes, so is Alzheimers. Parkinsons is another that is marked as increasing over the coming decades. Then there is autism, ADD, learning disorders………the list goes on. You cannot say, and neither can anyone else, that the reasons for the rises in these diseases has absolutely nothing to do with vaccination, environment, fluorides, food additives, chemicals on our food and in our food, vitamin deficiencies which may or may not be caused by any of the above mentioned possible causes. So until ALL of these things are proven to be 100% safe I will choose to avoid as much of these things that I feel the need to.

Suzy Que
Suzy Que
  • Sharon Kocpek

Jared Hyams Cont'
“The disease, (MS) is probably caused by an immune disorder during which it attacks human cells. MS destroys the myelin that sheathes nerve fibres, causing an interruption in communication between nerve cells of the central nervous system and leading to the emergence of MS.”
http://www.msrc.co.uk/index.cfm/fuseaction/show/pageid/2325
The information below was dated 2007, if what they have found is in fact accurate the numbers would be even higher by now.
Nearly 1 out of...

Jared Hyams Cont'
“The disease, (MS) is probably caused by an immune disorder during which it attacks human cells. MS destroys the myelin that sheathes nerve fibres, causing an interruption in communication between nerve cells of the central nervous system and leading to the emergence of MS.”
http://www.msrc.co.uk/index.cfm/fuseaction/show/pageid/2325
The information below was dated 2007, if what they have found is in fact accurate the numbers would be even higher by now.
Nearly 1 out of every 1000 people in the US - around 266,000 people - suffers from multiple sclerosis (MS), Hirtz's team calculates. This figure is 50% higher than that estimated by a similarly large literature review published in 1982 (Neurology, vol 32, p 1207).
Rates of Motor neuron/Lou Gehrig's disease (ALS) and Parkinson's disease also appear stable. However, a recent study projected that the number of people living with Parkinson's disease will double from about 4.3 million to 9 million people worldwide over the next 25 years (Neurology, vol 68, p 384).
Nearly six out of every 1000 children have some form of autism. (2007)
About two out of every 1000 youngsters have Tourette's syndrome, which is characterised by uncontrolled movements and speech. Hirtz says the collection of reliable data on these disorders is relatively recent.
Hirtz's analysis also estimates that 67 out of every 1000 people aged 65 or older in the US suffers from Alzheimer's disease. She says that this represents a "substantial increase" in the prevalence of this disease and attributes this partly to the growing proportion of very elderly people in the US
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11052-marked-rise-in-ms-in-the-us-debated-by-scientists.html

Suzy Que
Suzy Que
  • Sharon Kocpek

Jared Hyams And then there’s cancer……

According to French researchers, the incidence of cancer is expected to increase by more than 75% by the year 2030 in developed countries, and over 90% in developing nations. The study is published Online First in the Lancet Oncology.
• Even though very high HDI (human development index)countries only contain 15% of the world's population, they accounted for 40% of cancer cases in the world in 2008.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/246061.php

...

Jared Hyams And then there’s cancer……

According to French researchers, the incidence of cancer is expected to increase by more than 75% by the year 2030 in developed countries, and over 90% in developing nations. The study is published Online First in the Lancet Oncology.
• Even though very high HDI (human development index)countries only contain 15% of the world's population, they accounted for 40% of cancer cases in the world in 2008.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/246061.php

Dr. James R. Shannon, former director of the National institute of health declared, "the only safe vaccine is one that is never used."
Much of the success attributed to vaccination programs may actually have been due to improvement in public health related to water quality and sanitation, less crowded living conditions, better nutrition, and higher standards of living. Typically the incidence of a disease was clearly declining before the vaccine for that disease was introduced. In England the incidence of polio had decreased by 82 % before the polio vaccine was introduced in 1956.
By Dr. James Howenstine, MD

http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james.htm

And just to finish off here is a link to some notable quotes by medical Drs and scientists over the decades…….but of course they must all be conspiracy theorists because just like those amongst us here, they dare to question the norm.
http://www.itwillpass.com/quotes_doctors_quotes.shtml

Suzy Que
Suzy Que
  • Sharon Kocpek

Love Them, Protect Them, have a whooping cough booster to save them . Very pressumptuous to assume if i was sick that i would thoughtlessly cough over strangers, how about thinking a bit more before you put your thoughts into print.

Lori Harvey
Lori Harvey
  • Sharon Kocpek

This years flu shot (according to the insert that comes with the flu shot) says each shot contains 25 mcg of mercury in it. Not Thimerosal, MERCURY!! A neurotoxin. According to Dr. Hugh Fudenberg, he did a 10 year study on the flu shot & its relation to Alzheimer's. If you get the flu shot 5 years in a row, you are 10 times more likely to get Alzheimer's. According to a study done in Tokyo, Vitamin D3 has been proven to be 800% more effective in preventing the flu than the Flu shot. I...

This years flu shot (according to the insert that comes with the flu shot) says each shot contains 25 mcg of mercury in it. Not Thimerosal, MERCURY!! A neurotoxin. According to Dr. Hugh Fudenberg, he did a 10 year study on the flu shot & its relation to Alzheimer's. If you get the flu shot 5 years in a row, you are 10 times more likely to get Alzheimer's. According to a study done in Tokyo, Vitamin D3 has been proven to be 800% more effective in preventing the flu than the Flu shot. I never get the flu shot & I don't get the flu. Shocker.......

Andrea Leong
Andrea Leong
  • Sharon Kocpek

Lori, the mercury is present as part of thimerosal. It says the preservative is thimerosal. Stating the weight of mercury in this instance is like stating the weight of sodium in food --- sodium is present as a component of salt, not as elemental sodium, the highly reactive metal.

Re: Hugh Fudenberg: I, like the author of this blog (http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2007/08/27/bill-maher-antivaccination-wingnut/) couldn't find anything about the flu vaccine amongst Fudenberg's alzheimer's...

Lori, the mercury is present as part of thimerosal. It says the preservative is thimerosal. Stating the weight of mercury in this instance is like stating the weight of sodium in food --- sodium is present as a component of salt, not as elemental sodium, the highly reactive metal.

Re: Hugh Fudenberg: I, like the author of this blog (http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2007/08/27/bill-maher-antivaccination-wingnut/) couldn't find anything about the flu vaccine amongst Fudenberg's alzheimer's research (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Fudenberg%20H%20alzhemier) can you please post a link to the relevant study or studies?

The authors of the Tokyo vit D/flu study that you mention are far more cautious in interpreting their results, due to the small sample sizes available: "our study suggests that vitamin D3 supplementation during the winter season may reduce the incidence of
influenza A."

Obadiah Yehowah
Obadiah Yehowah

I hit the wrong answer while scroling my I-phone. Vaxines are poison.

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Obadiah Yehowah

so poisonous that the majority of the population has them with no ill effects. Yep, that makes sense, obe.

Don Carter
Don Carter
  • Obadiah Yehowah

Maybe Vaxines are poison, but Vaccines are beneficial.

Alan James Greaves
Alan James Greaves

Your insane, vaccine do not save lives they kill and harm in many ways, you are the one who is wrong not i, vaccines are lethal poison and should not ever be injected into the body, the immune system needs only nutrition to be healthy. Poison in the blood stream will aways cause a reaction but that is not protection in any way. And you are very wrong a 4lb baby taking one vaccine would mean a 150lb man would have too take 25 of the same shot at the same time, we are not talking immune...

Your insane, vaccine do not save lives they kill and harm in many ways, you are the one who is wrong not i, vaccines are lethal poison and should not ever be injected into the body, the immune system needs only nutrition to be healthy. Poison in the blood stream will aways cause a reaction but that is not protection in any way. And you are very wrong a 4lb baby taking one vaccine would mean a 150lb man would have too take 25 of the same shot at the same time, we are not talking immune protection here but the equal amount of poison injected into the body, can a 4lb baby survive the poison without harm or death and could a 150lb man survive 25 of the same shot at the same time. Your nothing but a sick brain dead zombie who is full of lies and twists the truth for what reason only you know that but one thing is true every child that is not vaccinated is a life saved from harm and death, it is the vaccines that are killing not the fact that a body is pure blood. If a person suffers a disease then the natural health immune system will defend and fight it but if you shot someone with vaccine poison the immune system must fight all that poison plus if by some rare chance have to fight a disease. Many disease are very mild and never a threat to any one, any serious disease are vaccinated manmade poison. the biggest diseases are corrupt politicians, corporate scum and vaccines. Vaccines are the cause of spreading disease and we will win the fight, the more wake up the stronger the truth becomes, your lies kill and one day will get you killed too.

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Alan James Greaves

I don't know what drugs you're on, but you should quit now before you completely lose your marbles. There's still a chance that you can recover some simple reasoning skills.

Bridie Burke
Bridie Burke
  • Alan James Greaves

Too late...

Annette Bannon
Annette Bannon

Well it must be a full moon somewhere in the USA!

Trulyoriginalartcom Kevinmoyer
Trulyoriginalartcom Kevinmoyer
  • Annette Bannon

Yes, Between the Vaccines, the legal system, CPS, and all the Fluoride they put out here in U.S. These vaccines and fluoride are both scientifically poisonous. Nurses don't even know why the mercury AKA Thimerosal is in the vaccines, much less that is IS poison. It's a scary and Tragic thing to have forced on us.

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Annette Bannon

Then today is your lucky day, because today is the day you discover that there is only one vaccine that contains thimerosol, aka ethyl mercury (which is harmless), and the day that you find out that the experts used it as a preservative and that one vaccine has a thimerosol-free alternative. Also, I have brushed my teeth with a flouride toothpaste all my life, for nearly thirty years, and have never been poisoned by it. How about that? You learn something new every day, huh?

Erwin Alber
Erwin Alber

Thanks for creating this survey Daniel!

It depends whether the survey is mainly aimed at American parents whether the last option (which I ticked) is appropriate. I live in New Zealand where parents don't have to apply for an exemption if they don't want to vaccinate; they simply don't vaccinate if they don't want to comply with the vaccine child poisoning schedule. If the survey includes parents in countries outside the USA, the last option should therefore simply say: 'No vaccines at...

Thanks for creating this survey Daniel!

It depends whether the survey is mainly aimed at American parents whether the last option (which I ticked) is appropriate. I live in New Zealand where parents don't have to apply for an exemption if they don't want to vaccinate; they simply don't vaccinate if they don't want to comply with the vaccine child poisoning schedule. If the survey includes parents in countries outside the USA, the last option should therefore simply say: 'No vaccines at all'.

Also, just because parents don't vaccinate, it doesn't necessarily follow that they will resort to homeopathic vaccination. I ticked the last option even though I'm not in favour of vaccination because no other option was given.

As far as I am concerned, vaccination is an organised criminal enterprise dressed up as disease prevention by means of junk science.

I invite parents and others who are interested in the vaccination issue to visit my 'Vaccination Information Network' (VINE) on Facebook.

Chris Hartman
Chris Hartman
  • Erwin Alber

Ugh, sorry, deleted those two comments as they were NOT directed at your comment specifically, I meant some of these other comments. I actually agree with you 100 percent.

Dayna Boor
Dayna Boor
  • Erwin Alber

I almost got sick reading the pro-vax comments on that link. The way people regurgitate nonsense is amazing...

Cathy Perger
Cathy Perger

I think Flu shots compromise the bodys natural ability to fight infection. The only time I think they should be administred is to children and older people with extreme health issues. The Goverment always says the stuff they want us to pump in our bodies is safe, don't believe it! Let the body do what is was designed to do without intervention from Government and Scientists.

Andrea Leong
Andrea Leong
  • Cathy Perger

Cathy, I can see you wanting to believe in the effectiveness of vaccines, if you think the most vulnerable people should get them! :)

Jared Hyams
Jared Hyams
  • Cathy Perger

I imagine if you get sick you'll be asking scientists and medical staff to look after you.. If we went back to times where the body did what it did without intervention, the life expectancy was less than 50 years.. and a lot of children died in the first 6 years of life..

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