Marcia Hudson Cope
Marcia Hudson Cope

Most sad for the kids who have no voice in the matter.

Bridie Burke
Bridie Burke
  • Marcia Hudson Cope

Yes, it really is sad, children becoming infected with measles and all kinds of preventable diseases.

Heather Rhodes White
Heather Rhodes White

My son is fully vaccinated but I didn’t read the risks or the benefits prior to making my decision. I am a health care provider and my husband is an M.D. so we base our decisions on science not celebrity opinions. My son had a known adverse event a vaccine-induced encephalopathy that damaged his brain. He is also diagnosed with autism among other things. I am urging for better pre-screening protocols so children like my son who have an elevated risk for adverse events might be spared a...

My son is fully vaccinated but I didn’t read the risks or the benefits prior to making my decision. I am a health care provider and my husband is an M.D. so we base our decisions on science not celebrity opinions. My son had a known adverse event a vaccine-induced encephalopathy that damaged his brain. He is also diagnosed with autism among other things. I am urging for better pre-screening protocols so children like my son who have an elevated risk for adverse events might be spared a lifelong disability or death. For some reason that view is controversial which only leads me to ask more questions.

I’ve studied this topic for nearly 8 years and this is how I would vaccinate my son today. I would not vaccinate for Hepatitis B, Rotavirus, HIB, Pneumococcal, Influenza, Varicella, Hepatitis A, or Meningococcal. My son is not at risk for contracting any of these infections because we have clean drinking water and I did not put him in daycare. During the first year of life an infant is still developing their immune system and they have variable rates of antibody production I would not consent to a vaccine during that time. I would consider vaccinating against diptheria, MMR and Polio by the time my son was 5. I have a centrist view regarding this topic.

Here are some myths that I see being touted on this thread.

1. There is no relationship between vaccines and ….
2. Vaccines have been extensively tested for effectiveness and safety.
3. Only one study showed a correlation and that was debunked.
4. There isn’t a real increase in autism and the disorder is purely genetic.
5. The case has been closed thru medical consensus.

None of these statements are true. Here is the evidence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=d_TTulzk4-g

Gulia Koroleva
Gulia Koroleva

I vaccinate on schedule.

Sara Larane Savel
Sara Larane Savel
  • Gulia Koroleva

Us too!

Linda Tock
Linda Tock

CDC schedule all the way, plus the HPV vaccine.

Michael Simpson
Michael Simpson
  • Linda Tock

HPV vaccine is critical.

FrancesMarie McLaughlin

I think it's best to get all the jab's to protect your child, there is loads of information out there but speak to your own G.P. and Nurse as they know both you and your child/children and will be able to talk you through any worries and concerns you may have.

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • FrancesMarie McLaughlin

You should check out a primary school - you might finally be able to start that basic education of yours.

Catherina Becker
Catherina Becker

I am not in the US, but I would follow my National Schedule (plus some vaccines that are not given here, like hepB and varicella) - the 10% total vaccine refusers (at this early point in the poll) are disturbing - there is only so many that herd immunity can carry...

Dianna Donnelly
Dianna Donnelly
  • Catherina Becker

herd immunity doesn;t work.

Linda Ross
Linda Ross

Our estimated 10 year total of over 7.8 million iatrongenic deaths if more than all the casualties from all the wars fought by the US throughout its entire history!

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Linda Ross

errr.... you don't know much about history, do you.

That's not a question

Linda Ross
Linda Ross
  • Linda Ross

Yes I know a lot about history Martin ..... check out these United States military casualties of all the wars that USA citizens have been involved in since 1775 to present day .... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_casualties_of_war

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Linda Ross

*Cuckoo*

Linda Ross
Linda Ross
  • Linda Ross

You are also not one of my FB friends Martin - I have not invited you here. Are you a shiller Martin ... someone who is paid to spread misinformation throughout the internet? Please do not invite yourself onto my site ......

Andrea Leong
Andrea Leong
  • Linda Ross

'Your site', Linda? Are you talking about this public poll page?

Dianna Donnelly
Dianna Donnelly
  • Linda Ross

Yes he is.

Linda Ross
Linda Ross
  • Linda Ross

Here is information on the deaths of 47 beautiful bright woman who died after taking Mercks Gardisil vaccinatios ..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7LH9TRCHuA&feature=related

Andrea Leong
Andrea Leong
  • Linda Ross

Well, I hate to break it to you, but this is a public webpage where anyone may comment; not an anti-science echo chamber. I got an email when this page was re-opened for comments, as I'm sure both you and Martin did. Why, then, is it surprising when Martin comments here?

Linda Ross
Linda Ross
  • Linda Ross

Its only coming up on my personal page Andrea .... Hows Swinbourne? I've visited my Professor of Mathematics friends there lots of times. Cheers.

Linda Ross
Linda Ross

Here is the document "DEATH BY MEDICINE" created by concerned Doctors themselves who are realising that the medical system is now just a drug pushing system that kills over 2 million people every year from side effects and unnecesary medical procedures. It is a necessary and compelling read for anyone who want to protect themselves and know the truth.

Killing over 2 million people per year- and these numbers are just the tip of the iceberg - is equivalent to 8 jumbo jets falling out of...

Here is the document "DEATH BY MEDICINE" created by concerned Doctors themselves who are realising that the medical system is now just a drug pushing system that kills over 2 million people every year from side effects and unnecesary medical procedures. It is a necessary and compelling read for anyone who want to protect themselves and know the truth.

Killing over 2 million people per year- and these numbers are just the tip of the iceberg - is equivalent to 8 jumbo jets falling out of the sky every single day. Do you think that if 8 jumbo jets fall out of the sky every single day, we would allow it to continue? No of course not! But the Medical industry is funded by the pharmaceutical industry.... and they will do anything for profit! Look deeply into this subject. It will awaken you to many dangers. The medical industry is currently doing more harm than good - which is supposedly against the Hippocratic Oath.

http://www.webdc.com/pdfs/deathbymedicine.pdf

Lynne Batik
Lynne Batik
  • Linda Ross

Unfortunately, "death by Quacks" is nowhere recorded for comparison.

"Death from lack of medicine", however, often is; and that dwarfs your numbers by orders of magnitude.

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Linda Ross

If this many people were dying, the US wouldn't have a population.

Lose the crazy, lady. Posting your very special knowledge in three separate posts, especially with the capslock... you're just another loony conspiracy theorist that makes people want to laugh. So thanks for the entertainment, but you really don't know much.

Linda Ross
Linda Ross
  • Linda Ross

Show me your document "Death from lack of medicine" Lynne. My research is done by people who train doctors at the Johns Hopkins Hospita in Baltimorel and the Weill Corneill Medical Collegel in Manhattan New York City - 2 of the most prestigious medical centres in the the USA. It exposes to these Doctors just how much harm many of these Pharmaceutical Drugs are doing to our bodies. NONE cure. ALL have dangerous side effects and ALL they do is mask the symptoms. There are over 561,000...

Show me your document "Death from lack of medicine" Lynne. My research is done by people who train doctors at the Johns Hopkins Hospita in Baltimorel and the Weill Corneill Medical Collegel in Manhattan New York City - 2 of the most prestigious medical centres in the the USA. It exposes to these Doctors just how much harm many of these Pharmaceutical Drugs are doing to our bodies. NONE cure. ALL have dangerous side effects and ALL they do is mask the symptoms. There are over 561,000 DRUGS out there now .... and a Drug MUST be a poison to be patented. There are former Doctors we know who are PAID to sit in a room, and make up Diseases that Drug companies can sell their products to. It is all available, if you are SERIOUS about your research Lynne. This is not some quasi academic exercise here .... we are talking about innocent peoples lives. Have a look at child vaccines and the number of happy healthy children that have died after their vaccinations. Have a look at the beautiful girls who have died after one Gardisil injection - dead two minutes later. The USA spends 15.2% of its GDP - over $8000 per person per year or $2.5 trillion on "health care" yet people are progressively getting sicker and sicker. BUT the Pharmaceutical Industry is very happy because they earned $7 - $9 Trillon of people remaining SICK. Infact they have to have people sick, otherwise their profits drop significantly.

Linda Ross
Linda Ross
  • Linda Ross

The Institute of Medicine calculates that in 2009 alone, the most recent figures available, the U.S. wasted more than one-third of the $2.5 trillion dollars we spent on health care. The IOM identifies $765 billion wasted through:

Unnecessary services

Frequency

Defensive medicine

Unnecessary use of high-cost services

Administrative waste

Duplicative costs of administering different plans

Unproductive documentation

Inefficiently delivered services

Medical errors

Uncoordinated care

In...

The Institute of Medicine calculates that in 2009 alone, the most recent figures available, the U.S. wasted more than one-third of the $2.5 trillion dollars we spent on health care. The IOM identifies $765 billion wasted through:

Unnecessary services

Frequency

Defensive medicine

Unnecessary use of high-cost services

Administrative waste

Duplicative costs of administering different plans

Unproductive documentation

Inefficiently delivered services

Medical errors

Uncoordinated care

Inefficient operations

Too-high prices

Prices higher than competitive levels

Excessive variation in service prices

Fraud

Medicare/Medicaid fraud

Insufficient investment to detect fraud

Missed prevention opportunities

Poor delivery of clinical prevention services

Linda Ross
Linda Ross
  • Linda Ross

Listen to this Professor of Medicine Dr Rebecca Carley who has a very long list of medical credentials including being a Court Qualified Expert on Vaccine Diseases who realised that NO ONE was benefiting from vaccinations .... Her son became brain dead from vaccinations . She wants to awaken all people to the dangers of vacciatios. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WoMps4Pmpo&feature=related

Lynne Batik
Lynne Batik
  • Linda Ross

1. "Court Qualified Expert on Vaccine Diseases" is not actually a thing. Also, being a "court qualified expert" is not a thing. Courts are frighteningly unselective about who can testify as an "expert witness."

2. YouTube videos are not evidence. A properly cited study: give me those, if you have.

3. Re. drugs: "NONE cure. ALL have dangerous side effects and ALL they do is mask the symptoms." -- I don't know which anti-science site you dug your nonsense up from, hon, but you sure...

1. "Court Qualified Expert on Vaccine Diseases" is not actually a thing. Also, being a "court qualified expert" is not a thing. Courts are frighteningly unselective about who can testify as an "expert witness."

2. YouTube videos are not evidence. A properly cited study: give me those, if you have.

3. Re. drugs: "NONE cure. ALL have dangerous side effects and ALL they do is mask the symptoms." -- I don't know which anti-science site you dug your nonsense up from, hon, but you sure didn't get it from anyone at Johns Hopkins or the Weill Cornell Medical College, because it is complete nonsense. You don't even need to know anything obscure, just be familiar wit antibiotics, for example.

4. "a Drug MUST be a poison to be patented" -- Ha! If only. ANYTHING can be patented. Hon, GENES are patented. NATURAL COMPOUNDS WHICH HAVE NOT EVEN BEEN FULLY CHARACTERISED are patented. The ease with which things are patented is actually one of my personal pet hates, given that it can have major impacts on data sharing and progress.

5. "There are former Doctors we know who are PAID to sit in a room, and make up Diseases that Drug companies can sell their products to." Ah, again with the argument-by-unsupported-conspiracy-theory. Yeah...no. The ability of pharmaceutical companies to directly market to consumers in the US, and thus their motivation to sell dubious remedies for what may be non-medical issues is, in my opinion, not a good thing, but at least that's a real thing. This, however, is not.

6. Actually, no-one has ever died "two minutes later" after any Gardasil injection.

I'd go on, but this just gets sillier.

There are plenty of real-world medical issues to worry about. You should try to find out about some, instead of this anti-science freakout.

And for what difference access to real medical care makes?

http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/30/6/1260.full
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/series/sr_03/sr03_033.pdf
http://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/publications/does-healthcare-save-lives-avoidable-mortality-revisited
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/20/deaths-health-insurance_n_1613600.html
And a few heartbreaking personal stories, since this kind of thing seems meaningful to you:
http://www.masskids.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=161&Itemid=165

Lynne Batik
Lynne Batik
  • Linda Ross

....Oh dear god. I looked Carley up, out of curiosity. You are quoting, as a supposed "Professor of Medicine" (?!) THIS Carley:
http://www.quackwatch.com/11Ind/carley1.html

And the scary thing is, the quotes from the court document don't come anywhere near the level of crazy on her own website. O_O

She genuinely has some serious mental health issues. Not as a put-down, she is not only certifiable, she's certified. She was supposed to seek treatment for schizophrenia; it's clear that...

....Oh dear god. I looked Carley up, out of curiosity. You are quoting, as a supposed "Professor of Medicine" (?!) THIS Carley:
http://www.quackwatch.com/11Ind/carley1.html

And the scary thing is, the quotes from the court document don't come anywhere near the level of crazy on her own website. O_O

She genuinely has some serious mental health issues. Not as a put-down, she is not only certifiable, she's certified. She was supposed to seek treatment for schizophrenia; it's clear that she hasn't. Her "extensive medical qualifications" are things she basically made up; she is not licensed to practice as a doctor anywhere, because her license was pulled on account of her being a public danger. And it is clear that even the courts don't want her anywhere near them.

The fact that you quote her as an "authority"? It does not support your case that you are "well researched."

Linda Ross
Linda Ross
  • Linda Ross

DOCTORS AND PROFESSORS OF MEDICINE SPEAKING OUT ABOUT VACCINE Vaccination leads to Cancer, Leukaemia, Brain Damage and many other chronic diseases?

"Immunisation programs against the flu, measles, mumps, polio, etc., actually may be seeding humans with RNA to form pro-viruses...which under proper conditions become activated and cause a variety of diseases including rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis, lupus erythematoses, Parkinson's disease, and cancer. Spare me this 'medical...

DOCTORS AND PROFESSORS OF MEDICINE SPEAKING OUT ABOUT VACCINE Vaccination leads to Cancer, Leukaemia, Brain Damage and many other chronic diseases?

"Immunisation programs against the flu, measles, mumps, polio, etc., actually may be seeding humans with RNA to form pro-viruses...which under proper conditions become activated and cause a variety of diseases including rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis, lupus erythematoses, Parkinson's disease, and cancer. Spare me this 'medical miracle'." Dr. Robert Simpson, of Rutgers University, 1987. (p.42 )

"The vaccination modifies the terrain of the vaccinated, driving it towards the alkaline and oxidised terrain--the terrain of cancer. The fact can no longer be denied." The French medical Journal Revue de Pathologie Generale at de Physiologie Clinique, 1958 (p.111).

"It is necessary only to read on the dials of a physical measuring apparatus the ratings of the 3 characteristics of the blood. The pH, the rH2 and the electric resistance. The findings are that all vaccination has the effect of directing the three values of the blood into or toward the zone characteristics of cancer and leukemia...Vaccines do predispose to cancer and leukemia." Prof.L.C.Vincent, founder of Bioelectronics.

bullet image "Vaccination also causes leukaemia to break out." Dr. B. Duperrat, 1954, of the Saint-Louis Hospital in Paris, in the French medical journal Presse Medicale , March 12 1955. (P.114)

bullet image "Since routine vaccines introduce live viruses and other highly antigenic material into the blood of virtually every living person, it is difficult to escape the conclusion that a significant harvest of auto-immune diseases will automatically result. It is dangerous and misleading and the exact opposite of the truth to claim that a vaccine makes us "immune" or protects us against an acute disease. In fact, it only drives the disease deeper into the interior and causes us to harbour it chronically with the result that our responses to it become progressively weaker and show less and less tendency to heal and resolve themselves spontaneously. . . Far from producing a genuine immunity the vaccines may act by actually interfering with or suppressing the immune system as a whole..." Richard Moskowitz, M.D. 1983 (p.67-68)

bullet image "There is no doubt in my mind that in the UK alone some hundreds if not thousands, of well infants have suffered irreparable brain damage needlessly, and that their lives and those of their parents have been wrecked in consequence." Prof. Gordon Stewart, 1987, Professor of Public Health at the University of Glasgow, 1980, commenting on the brain damaging effects of whooping cough vaccine. (p.40)

bullet image "Vaccines are made from: mucus of infected children (whooping cough), excrement from typhoid victims (typhoid), fermented chick embryos, and until recently, vaccines for polio were got from diseased kidneys of monkeys, and cause: leukemia, encephalitis, Multiple Sclerosis, and "Now I believe the smallpox vaccine theory is the explanation to the explosion of AIDS." advisor to the World Health Organisation, as reported in The London Times , 11.05.1987 (p.39). The advisors name was not disclosed in the Times article.

bullet image "Millions of people have been vaccinated with the polio vaccine, which contains the cancer-forming SV-40 virus originally found in monkeys. It is possible that it will take 20 years or still longer before the possible damaging effects of this virus come to light" Professor J. Clausen, 1973, of the Institute of Preventive Medicine at the University of Odense. Consider the upsurge of diseases such as AIDS, CFS, increases in leukemia etc., in light of this statement. (p.94)

bullet image "Vaccination is not necessary, not useful, does not protect. There are twice as many casualties from vaccination as from AIDS" Dr. med. Gerhard Buchwald, 1988, West Germany, specialist of internal diseases and participant in about 150 trials of vaccination victims (p.35).

Linda Ross
Linda Ross
  • Linda Ross

Pet Vaccination--distemper in dogs.

"Immunisation with an attenuated virus cannot prevent distemper. The author has treated many dogs which have developed distemper despite two or three injections of the preventative agent... He is of the opinion that fits, chorea, hysteria, etc., in dogs have become more frequent since the use of distemper vaccine. Successful prevention will never be achieved by inoculation." Dr. J.E.R. McDonagh, 1987, Fellow Royal College of Surgeons, bacteriologist. (p.39).

Lynne Batik
Lynne Batik
  • Linda Ross

Aaaand, no response at all to the facts pointed out to you, just another regurgitation/Gish Gallop of outdated nonsense. You're just the little energizer bunny of bullshit, aintcha.

Linda Ross
Linda Ross

ALL VACCINATIONS ARE POISONOUS AND HIGHLY TOXIC TO ANY BODY. YOU WOULD BE FOOLISH TO TAKE THEM. THERE ARE NO SAFE VACCINATIONS. MOST CONTAIN DEADLY FORMELDAHYDE, MERCURY, ALUMINIUM AND DANGEROUS BACTERIA. THE ORIGINAL GREEK WORD FOR PHAMACO IS POISONER!

Iotrogenic Deaths - Death by Medical incompetance and Fatal reactions from Drugs is now the NO.1 Killer of Americans. Since 1989 Vaccine Injury compensations exceed $2.3 billion paid out to those receving vaccinations. Tell me again...

ALL VACCINATIONS ARE POISONOUS AND HIGHLY TOXIC TO ANY BODY. YOU WOULD BE FOOLISH TO TAKE THEM. THERE ARE NO SAFE VACCINATIONS. MOST CONTAIN DEADLY FORMELDAHYDE, MERCURY, ALUMINIUM AND DANGEROUS BACTERIA. THE ORIGINAL GREEK WORD FOR PHAMACO IS POISONER!

Iotrogenic Deaths - Death by Medical incompetance and Fatal reactions from Drugs is now the NO.1 Killer of Americans. Since 1989 Vaccine Injury compensations exceed $2.3 billion paid out to those receving vaccinations. Tell me again how safe they are?

"When a well-packaged web of lies have been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speak a raving lunatic". Dresden James.

Shannon Sinclair
Shannon Sinclair
  • Linda Ross

I won't ever get another one. Since my tetanus shot in September, I have had continual digestive issues. They are no good, period.

Lynne Batik
Lynne Batik
  • Linda Ross

And you have decided, arbitrarily, in the face of all medical evidence, that the tetanus shot did this. Doctors don't take this kind of thing seriously because the fact that two things happen relatively closely does NOT mean they are connected. Human cognitive bias is letting you down.

Lynne Batik
Lynne Batik
  • Linda Ross

And Linda, you should go visit the graveyards from before that "evil Western medicine" you so despise started creating these drugs, and look at the ages at which people died.

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Linda Ross

Lol, I've had all my vaccines and I have never been killed or sickened by them. I do have an IQ of 127 though..... hey!!! Vaccines must cause HIGH IQ!!!

Andrea Leong
Andrea Leong
  • Linda Ross

I had some vaccinations in my first 8 months of life... then I started walking! Vaccinations must have made me start walking!

Linda Ross
Linda Ross
  • Linda Ross

Lynne and Martin .... I suspect you are both shillers - paid to spread misinformation about drugs. The Pharmaceutical companies do this; and the Tobacco companies do this; and the Oil and Mining companies all have idiots who toute their products and spread misinformation to the unawakened. By the way Lynne I do visit 3 of my family members who were killed through direct medical incompetance, and that started me on the trail of learning about current medical practices. You are both young...

Lynne and Martin .... I suspect you are both shillers - paid to spread misinformation about drugs. The Pharmaceutical companies do this; and the Tobacco companies do this; and the Oil and Mining companies all have idiots who toute their products and spread misinformation to the unawakened. By the way Lynne I do visit 3 of my family members who were killed through direct medical incompetance, and that started me on the trail of learning about current medical practices. You are both young and highly ignorant on this subject ..... Intelligence is only useful if it is used. Our Western Medical system is broken and dangerous. Yes it is excellent for trauma and medical emergencies but it know nothing about HEALTH and Wellness.

Andrea Leong
Andrea Leong
  • Linda Ross

Really? Lynne, Martin, you *must* tell me how I can get paid to do this! I'm just killing time between experiments here.

In reality, though: Linda, you are paranoid.

Linda Ross
Linda Ross
  • Linda Ross

PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY MERCK KILLS 60,000 PEOPLE WITH ITS DEADLY DRUG VIOXX .... AND SEVERELY DESTROYS OTHER PEOPLES LIVES http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/05/14/mercks-adhd-drugs-unsafe.aspx

Linda Ross
Linda Ross
  • Linda Ross

These are Doctors who are reporting these events .....

Andrea Leong
Andrea Leong
  • Linda Ross

I thought the doctors were paid off by big pharma to keep adverse events quiet?

Fern Sandi
Fern Sandi

AS I SAID...RESEARCH FIRST...THEN MAKE YOUR DECISION...I WOULD NOT BLANKET STATEMENT 'NO VACCINES'..

Dianna Donnelly
Dianna Donnelly
  • Fern Sandi

There are ways to vaccinate homeopathically ... which is what I intend to do.

Lynne Batik
Lynne Batik
  • Fern Sandi

Injecting saline does not confer immunity to anything. That is the height of irresponsible nonsense.

Dianna Donnelly
Dianna Donnelly
  • Fern Sandi

Your opinion....that is all.

Lynne Batik
Lynne Batik
  • Fern Sandi

Dianna Donnelly You seem to be deeply confused about "opinion" and "evidence."

You have an opinion with no evidence. I have an opinion based firmly on evidence. The difference is that my opinion is not "that is all" -- the evidence *matters*.

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Fern Sandi

An opinion expressed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

William Dziekanowski
William Dziekanowski
  • Fern Sandi

Medical Saline contains Borax a known toxin.

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Fern Sandi

what??? saline is salt water you moron - NaCl dissolved in water. "MEDICAL" saline is sterilised for "MEDICAL" use, meaning without impurities like other minerals dissolved in the water like you get at the beach. Provide some evidence that there is Borax in medical saline please, or stfu. You really don't have a clue.

Martin Bouckaert
Martin Bouckaert
  • Fern Sandi

William Dziekanowski like that is seriously the stupidest thing i've ever seen one of you twits come up with. the STUPIDEST. On the scale of stupid things i've heard, which is huge, you should actually be proud of this achievement - it must take some serious effort to totally remove yourself so far from any kind of rational ability to be that stupid.

William Dziekanowski
William Dziekanowski
  • Fern Sandi

If saline didn't contain borate it would grow germs moron.

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