Ovi Ovi
Ovi Ovi

"No one has the right to disrespect any religion or any particular group of people."
YOU ARE WRONG. THIS PETITION IS RIDICULOUS.
People can say what they want in a democracy - its called FREEDOM OF SPEECH! as you are free to believe in whatever you want so are people free to say what they want. If you want respect, show the same respect you want to others even if you don't agree!

Tobias Johansson
Tobias Johansson
  • Ovi Ovi

My guess is that the people signing this petition does not understand the importance of free speach. Or they just don´t like democracy.

Sabah Barakeh
Sabah Barakeh
  • Ovi Ovi

Im sorry but i think this is very contradictory... U say to show respect even if u dont agree, but telling people what they are doing is wrong and ridiculous isnt really respecting what u dont agree with..and what democracy are we talking about here? Because if people have the right to free speech, then others should have the right to protest and demostrate what they believe in.. Isnt all that part of 'democracy'? If they want to sign this petition that is their free choice and telling them...

Im sorry but i think this is very contradictory... U say to show respect even if u dont agree, but telling people what they are doing is wrong and ridiculous isnt really respecting what u dont agree with..and what democracy are we talking about here? Because if people have the right to free speech, then others should have the right to protest and demostrate what they believe in.. Isnt all that part of 'democracy'? If they want to sign this petition that is their free choice and telling them they shouldnt do that makes us just the same as those who oppose democracy.. Dont get me wrong, i am completely against hate and violence, but i do think that respect for peoples beliefs is important, without it, we will never be able to live together in peace just as history keeps proving to us time and time again..

Tobias Johansson
Tobias Johansson
  • Ovi Ovi

Sabah: I will let Ovgum answer about her phrasing, but just want to ask you: When you talk about respect to other peoples beliefs, do you think that should be controlled by law? Or more direct, do you support freedom of speech or not?

Tobias Johansson
Tobias Johansson
  • Ovi Ovi

And as for living together in peace, I think the only way to do that is for the world to become more secular and embrase science and reason instead of religion. As history keeps proving, religion is the cause of most conflicts. Can you name a war started over which atheist group believe in god the least?

Tobias Johansson
Tobias Johansson
  • Ovi Ovi

Speaking your mind (also on religion)=ok. Physical violence=not ok. Throwing democracy in the trashbin by censorship (of youtube for instance)=not ok. Do you understand the difference? Do you agree?

Nağme Yazgın
Nağme Yazgın
  • Ovi Ovi

'Because no one has the right to disrespect any religion or any particular group of people.' .... Yes they do have every right to disrespect any religion or any particular group of people. That's just the way it is. You have every right to be offended, but you don't have the right to censor others just because you're offended.

Tobias Johansson
Tobias Johansson
  • Ovi Ovi

Sabah, you have clearly not understood what I am saying. I do not want to censor the petition, I just argue against their pathetic demands. And yes, freedom of speech should apply to everyone equally, and it also does in most western countries. We will see what happens with the French case with the topless pictures, but the fact is that there was nothing stopping them from publishing them, they are still being published in newspapers, and if taken to the higher courts the publisher will be...

Sabah, you have clearly not understood what I am saying. I do not want to censor the petition, I just argue against their pathetic demands. And yes, freedom of speech should apply to everyone equally, and it also does in most western countries. We will see what happens with the French case with the topless pictures, but the fact is that there was nothing stopping them from publishing them, they are still being published in newspapers, and if taken to the higher courts the publisher will be freed from charges. But yes, also western countries should be criticized when doing something wrong, that is how democracy is upheld.

Ovi Ovi
Ovi Ovi
  • Ovi Ovi

Hi Sabah! I would be repeating Tobias with the things I would say to your first message so I am going to try and disdain from that. "No one has the right to disrespect any religion or any particular group of people." Yes they do as it is called freedom of speech and they are Wrong to say that. Agree?

Ovi Ovi
Ovi Ovi
  • Ovi Ovi

This petition is ridiculous not because it is religious but because of it's nature - because where does it end? then with this logic atheists can petition to block religious content which is offensive to reason and facts, and perhaps cows will petition to block steak houses and butchers in search results... spreading ideas like this as if it is ok will come back to limit people's freedom in many different ways! Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with what that fool did or what he is saying,...

This petition is ridiculous not because it is religious but because of it's nature - because where does it end? then with this logic atheists can petition to block religious content which is offensive to reason and facts, and perhaps cows will petition to block steak houses and butchers in search results... spreading ideas like this as if it is ok will come back to limit people's freedom in many different ways! Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with what that fool did or what he is saying, but let people criticize and there will always be someone that is offended... But may be people will also reconsider their stance and their beliefs through criticism...

Ovi Ovi
Ovi Ovi
  • Ovi Ovi

last but not least - democracy - or liberty - or freedom - or whatever you want to call it does EXIST - at different levels for different societies depending on their collective consciousness and will and I am grateful to live in such a society. While democracy is not perfect, it is an IDEAL to strive for exactly the end goal you mention - peace. All should be criticized for hypocritical and unequal treatments whether it is a western nation like France or some other nation like Saudi arabia...

last but not least - democracy - or liberty - or freedom - or whatever you want to call it does EXIST - at different levels for different societies depending on their collective consciousness and will and I am grateful to live in such a society. While democracy is not perfect, it is an IDEAL to strive for exactly the end goal you mention - peace. All should be criticized for hypocritical and unequal treatments whether it is a western nation like France or some other nation like Saudi arabia or North Korea. The only difference is that in France there will be justice because of a judicial system based on democracy however in many other nations with anti democratic systems there would be no justice....

Rafi Rizwan
Rafi Rizwan

be sure to read all of this:
if a dog bites you in the leg are you going to bite it back?
i'm not going to sign this because I'm a critical person and stand firmly by the right to freedom of speech. if we let our laws fall apart over petty insults from those who clearly do not understand, then society as a whole will suffer. these petitions, the outrage, and violence are all the WRONG reaction, and fails in the aspect of the greater Jihad, which is the struggle to maintain one's own...

be sure to read all of this:
if a dog bites you in the leg are you going to bite it back?
i'm not going to sign this because I'm a critical person and stand firmly by the right to freedom of speech. if we let our laws fall apart over petty insults from those who clearly do not understand, then society as a whole will suffer. these petitions, the outrage, and violence are all the WRONG reaction, and fails in the aspect of the greater Jihad, which is the struggle to maintain one's own beliefs in the face of these small tests. Our's is a religion of peace and understanding, but it seems that the twisted sins of the few, thousands of miles away have brought on an age of misguidance and distress for the whole world. I won't say this again, stand down, and look for a more logical, and peaceful approach, because a petition that impedes on a natural right of a man to his own thoughts and the expression of such is simply twisted, no matter how insulting it may be. Reactions like this is exactly the excuse people of the sort are looking for to bash on you even more. I'm a muslim and I stand firmly by my religion, but I also understand that "to each, his own" is a valid concept and that if the nonbelievers want to burn in hell, they can happily do so, because it's not my place to judge them, only Allah SWT's. Silence is betrayal, but speaking out to silence others isn't much better. Instead, you all should go on youtube and make a bunch of videos expressing your feelings and the sentiments that I've written above, exactly as they are. Our protest shouldn't be suppression, it should be education because that's the only, true peaceful resolution. calm your hearts brethren... just calm your hearts... please.

Mumtaz Rao
Mumtaz Rao
  • Rafi Rizwan

It is simply Unappropriate and Unacceptable; what freedom of speech and expression they talk about, when it happens against them who have just an inheritted Monarchy or sort of other celebrity status; they put all their efforts to counter the culprit but NO for who is awarded with the Title of Leader of all Prophets and Messengers and Rahmatulilaalameen by Allah The Creator and The Deity. Shame on them...

MdShafiur Rahman
MdShafiur Rahman
  • Rafi Rizwan

Please block all the contents causing desrespect to Prophet Muhammad ( Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) and all the Prophets.

Salim Ali
Salim Ali
  • Rafi Rizwan

I think that "innocence of muslims" film have been made to hit our religion "ISLAM".......it is so hearty...

Rashid Iqbal Khan
Rashid Iqbal Khan
  • Rafi Rizwan

I love Allah and our Prophet Muhammad Salal La Ho Alehay Walehi Wasalam. and I don't like anyone do anything bad for our Prophet Muhammad Salal La Ho Alehay Walehi Wasalam. We all muslim needs to make unity against those people who does not respect him. Allah is a great power, and he surely give a muslim power in the world against the bad people.

Rafi Rizwan
Rafi Rizwan
  • Rafi Rizwan

be sure to read all of this:
if a dog bites you in the leg are you going to bite it back?
i'm not going to sign this because I'm a critical person and stand firmly by the right to freedom of speech. if we let our laws fall apart over petty insults from those who clearly do not understand, then society as a whole will suffer. these petitions, the outrage, and violence are all the WRONG reaction, and fails in the aspect of the greater Jihad, which is the struggle to maintain one's own...

be sure to read all of this:
if a dog bites you in the leg are you going to bite it back?
i'm not going to sign this because I'm a critical person and stand firmly by the right to freedom of speech. if we let our laws fall apart over petty insults from those who clearly do not understand, then society as a whole will suffer. these petitions, the outrage, and violence are all the WRONG reaction, and fails in the aspect of the greater Jihad, which is the struggle to maintain one's own beliefs in the face of these small tests. Our's is a religion of peace and understanding, but it seems that the twisted sins of the few, thousands of miles away have brought on an age of misguidance and distress for the whole world. I won't say this again, stand down, and look for a more logical, and peaceful approach, because a petition that impedes on a natural right of a man to his own thoughts and the expression of such is simply twisted, no matter how insulting it may be. Reactions like this is exactly the excuse people of the sort are looking for to bash on you even more. I'm a muslim and I stand firmly by my religion, but I also understand that "to each, his own" is a valid concept and that if the nonbelievers want to burn in hell, they can happily do so, because it's not my place to judge them, only Allah SWT's. Silence is betrayal, but speaking out to silence others isn't much better. Instead, you all should go on youtube and make a bunch of videos expressing your feelings and the sentiments that I've written above, exactly as they are. Our protest shouldn't be suppression, it should be education because that's the only, true peaceful resolution. calm your hearts brethren... just calm your hearts... please.

Mahnoor Malik
Mahnoor Malik
  • Rafi Rizwan

yup stop all thngs hrtng any 1s religion, thanks kevin chu.

Rafi Rizwan
Rafi Rizwan
  • Rafi Rizwan

don't hate. educate.

Syeda Afser
Syeda Afser

Salam guyzzzz..
Hamaray karachi mein jo karkatein horahi hain I mean ehtijaaj k naam par jo tabahiyan horahi hain kya apko lagta hai k sahe horaha hai cinemas jalaye jarahain hain buildings jalaya jaraha hai kya yeh sahe hai agr aashiq-e-rasool (s.a.w.w) ho tw un per DUROOD SHAREEF parh ker q nahi bhej thank you ho haan kyun apny hi musalman bhaiyyon ki jaan lerahe hoo..

Syeda Afser
Syeda Afser
  • Syeda Afser

fuzool mein apny hi musalman bhaiyyon ko maarna apni hi emarton ko aag lagana kahan ki sharafat hai...aesy muslims na hi hoty tw behtr hota...DUROOD pak parhnay k bajaye tamashay dikha rahy hain...

Bilal Ahmed Siddiqui
Bilal Ahmed Siddiqui
  • Syeda Afser

SSssssssssUUbbbbbbbb Agent hain ........ koi bhi mukhliss nahi PAkistan K Sath .......... Upar Se Ye EK MaLALa Day Ufffff.... Malala Bhi Agent Hay Uska Baap Bhi Agent hay .... Kiya hum Logo Ko Dr Aafia Nazar Nahi Atin Kiya ?????? Wo Qoom Ki Betii Nahi Hian ????

Richard Washington
Richard Washington

Firstly, they will never do this. This is a lost cause; Google’s primary cause is to log all of the world’s information.

Secondly, if you try to censor others then you censor yourself. This is a fundamental point of free speech – the right of someone else to say something you do not agree with is also your right to hear things you do not agree with.

The wording of this is so wide and vague so as to be almost entirely meaningless ‘to block all the content related to’ –This definition would...

Firstly, they will never do this. This is a lost cause; Google’s primary cause is to log all of the world’s information.

Secondly, if you try to censor others then you censor yourself. This is a fundamental point of free speech – the right of someone else to say something you do not agree with is also your right to hear things you do not agree with.

The wording of this is so wide and vague so as to be almost entirely meaningless ‘to block all the content related to’ –This definition would include both the petition and this comment.

Now to the real crux of the matter: This petition calls for blocking of all content related to the ‘disrespect of Prophet Muhammad’. This is again such a nebulous thing to ask for. I could almost understand it if you asked that Google block all content which lied about him. But to ask for all items disrespecting him…no one has the right to avoid all criticism. He was, after all, married to a 6-7 year old, consecrating the marriage at 9 – which would in this country be considered (rightly) a miserably low crime. He owned slaves, ordered murders and assassinations as well as mass beheadings. He is not a man who should be respected – certainly not a man who should have his respect enforced.

What you are asking for is for the world to implement a global North Korea.

“Because no one has the right to disrespect any religion or any particular group of people”.

So ok, here we have it. In an attempt to seem like there is no special pleading you extend your claim to all groups of people, religious or otherwise.

Let us play this out. The Quran is full of threats that unbelievers are ‘...rightful Peoples of the Fire. They will abide therein’ that they ‘will not emerge from the Fire’ that ‘those who disbelieve: Yes shall be overcome and gathered unto Hell’ that disbelievers ‘will be fuel for Fire’. That homosexuals are ‘unnatural’ and ‘abominations’ and ‘act senselessly’. That men are a ‘degree above women’, and that a ‘woman is worth half a man’.

If you would like the world to be free of all disrespect then I’m sure you will be happy to remove all of these, and all the other hideous statements and eternal threats of punishment in fire from your precious book?

I won’t even bother to start on the hadith. Suffice to say that if you want to remove all disrespect for all people then burn your own books first.

Let us continue on the journey.

All religions are by definition disrespectful and blasphemous to all others.

You cannot escape this simple fact. Christians say that Jesus was divine and that Jesus of the Quran is blasphemous. Hindus says that there are many Gods. Even just within Islam there are many points of contention.

And finally.

To put criticism of Mohammed in the same category as racism, sexism, or homophobia makes zero sense. Firstly Mohammed is one person, he is not a people. Secondly, and I can’t believe I have to explain this; racism is irrational because knowing someone’s race tells you nothing about what they believe or who they are.

To criticise or insult a single person, a long dead one at that, because of what that person said and did can be clearly justified. But ok, let’s move on a little, as you switch from insulting one person to a whole religion then so shall I. A religion is not a people; it is a set of beliefs. Beliefs should not be protected from criticism, that way lies madness. Imagine a world where we say that you cannot criticise Neo-Nazis, or the USSR. Imagine a world where we cannot say it is barbaric to murder apostates and homosexuals. This is what you are asking for.

Muhammad Yasir Ghumman
Muhammad Yasir Ghumman
  • Richard Washington

mr richard, i read ur story,its funny,if u live in USa, their is laws to live like a human and u follow these laws, like if u rob or rape, or kill u will punished and u accept all, y don,t u say u r a free man u don,t care the US laws.i kknow u will never do this,

ok other hand u just get some word from quran and quote out of contact. second thing as we belive that god make all this universe including all, he knows better what is right or what is wrong.

if we make laws to live in this...

mr richard, i read ur story,its funny,if u live in USa, their is laws to live like a human and u follow these laws, like if u rob or rape, or kill u will punished and u accept all, y don,t u say u r a free man u don,t care the US laws.i kknow u will never do this,

ok other hand u just get some word from quran and quote out of contact. second thing as we belive that god make all this universe including all, he knows better what is right or what is wrong.

if we make laws to live in this world u have no objectionand i am sure many of laws make against ur will then it is right but when u talk aboout islamic laws which reality u object it.

so please study then reply about islam, i say this not to make u muslim but for the sake of truth.

i request u please give views on Holocaust and load it on yo u tube

Ahmed Saleem
Ahmed Saleem
  • Richard Washington

Dear richard if you live in a free country and you have all the so called right for free speech and freedom of expression. tell me one thing do you have the right to choose your parents? do you have a choice to born? do you have a choice to choose your religion?so these are lame excuses that every one have his right to be free. there were limitations,there are limitations and there will be
And secondly, if you are so concerned about Islam or Quran. why are you people so scared by reading...

Dear richard if you live in a free country and you have all the so called right for free speech and freedom of expression. tell me one thing do you have the right to choose your parents? do you have a choice to born? do you have a choice to choose your religion?so these are lame excuses that every one have his right to be free. there were limitations,there are limitations and there will be
And secondly, if you are so concerned about Islam or Quran. why are you people so scared by reading the Holy Book if you dont believe it. It so means that you know that You people will be the 'Fuel of Hell'. if the Quran emphasise on Disbelievers to be the Ones that go to Hell and Live there Forever After why you people think that "Oh Quran is Scaring ME". It Truly and Simply means that you people are so much narrow minded and Really Think that you are the DisBelievers (for sure).

Richard Washington
Richard Washington
  • Richard Washington

People can't choose their parents so they shouldn’t be allowed to have freedom of expression? Non sequitur of the week.

As I have said, and will keep saying until someone addresses the issue - if you want to limit others freedoms then you limit your own. Burn your own book first and I will take you seriously.

I have read the Quran, I am not scared by the prospect. I understand well its claims. I don't think they are true.

I support your right to read it, to believe it and to think that I am Fuel for the Fire.

Anjum Jalal
Anjum Jalal

If the freedom of expression has to be unconditional, we shall have to close all the mental hospitals and leave the lunatics free.

Syed Hassan
Syed Hassan
  • Anjum Jalal

They are actually free. That is why this is happening

Alfred Vanhinsbergh
Alfred Vanhinsbergh

Que veulent ces gens qui insultent la religion, les races, les groupes d'individu, semer la haine et la discorde? Rejeter sur les autres leurs malheurs trouver des coupables à leurs maux. Je suis humaniste et l' Islam pure, est la religion la plus tolérante celle qui est la plus ouverte et la plus respectueuse des autres. Certes il y a des êtres qui détournent les religions mais ce n'est pas une raison d' insulter l'Eternel. C' est une injure grave et une provocation indécente à l'humanité....

Que veulent ces gens qui insultent la religion, les races, les groupes d'individu, semer la haine et la discorde? Rejeter sur les autres leurs malheurs trouver des coupables à leurs maux. Je suis humaniste et l' Islam pure, est la religion la plus tolérante celle qui est la plus ouverte et la plus respectueuse des autres. Certes il y a des êtres qui détournent les religions mais ce n'est pas une raison d' insulter l'Eternel. C' est une injure grave et une provocation indécente à l'humanité. Je dirai que c'est une alerte au retour de la peste brune, le pire des maux que cette terre portent. l'éradication de ce fascisme doit être une priorité dans le combat de tout les êtres humains épris de Paix et d'Universalité. Nous citoyens de cette planète bleue n' aspirons qu'à une seule chose c'est la Paix, l'Echange et le Partage....l'Avenir rayonnant de nos enfants et petits enfants dans le respect des religions, des groupes ethniques, de la non violence doit être notre but.

Mudassar Riaz
Mudassar Riaz

For God sake don't try to dis respect our Holy Prophet .He is the Prophet of all mankind.just go and read His teachings.You people are pushing us Muslims to the limits where there is only destruction for u. Ya Rasoolullah SAW mine and my parents and my children are ready to sacrifice every thing for you without any questions asked.Inshaallah

Faisal Rauf
Faisal Rauf
  • Mudassar Riaz

You are 100% correct.

Saad Ahmad
Saad Ahmad

ty kevin chu. guyz the thing is .. EVERY ONE CAN SEE NOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOOOO MANY ACTS OF RELIGIOUS DISRESPECT ONLY AND ONLY AGAINST MUSLIMS THAT EVEN NON MUSLIM PEOPLE ARE GETTING AGITATED AND BEGINNING TO THINK THAT THESE ACTS SHOULD BE STOPPED.. WE AS MUSLIMS SHOULD UNITE AND PROTEST IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE TO REMOVE THESE ACTS OF OPPRESSION AGAINST OUR PEACEFUL AND LOVE ENCOURAGING PROPHET, AND OUR BEAUTIFUL WAY OF LIFE ..ISLAM.

Maryam Mansoor
Maryam Mansoor
  • Saad Ahmad

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Iqbal Hussain
Iqbal Hussain

Freedom of speech does not mean to harm anyone, any nation or cause to disrespect & vulnerably attack to cast, creed, practice being followed by any specific faith and belief or for any particular religion, even such freedom does not allow to go beyond moral standard, values and principal.

But we are experiencing that some Countries are constantly showing their disrespect, animosity, persistent hatred, abhorrence particularly with Islamic religion and always issuing provocative speech,...

Freedom of speech does not mean to harm anyone, any nation or cause to disrespect & vulnerably attack to cast, creed, practice being followed by any specific faith and belief or for any particular religion, even such freedom does not allow to go beyond moral standard, values and principal.

But we are experiencing that some Countries are constantly showing their disrespect, animosity, persistent hatred, abhorrence particularly with Islamic religion and always issuing provocative speech, exhibiting & giving the world an opposite & loathing picture of Islam and Its Holy prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), making movies with wrong interpretation, de-characterizing & caricaturing Holy Prophet in print media and in their products.

We the Muslims all over the world condemn & lodged our complaints against such hatred campaign where the religion Islam & reverend character of Holy prophet Muhammad (pbh) has been compromised & ridiculed, is really very disgusting.

Muslim across the globe are protesting and demanding for a stringent action for those who are disrespect Prophet Muhammad (pbh) – No one has the right to disgrace any religion or any particular group of people – The war against Muslims should stop.

There is a regular conspiracy against Islam and Holy prophet Muhammad (peace be upon) to devalue Muslims and their Belief, fueling & devastating Muslims & Islam on different pretext. There is no forum or any institutions who may question these lobby that why they do this?

Considering the recent release of a “hate English movie about Islam & Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and regular provocative publication like Danish cartoons” have inflamed ethnic tensions in some countries.

Muslims all over the world are demanding United Nation (UN) convention to debate on the miss-use of freedom of speech & should urge all members of the states to deal with provocative publication like Danish cartoons and the movies within determined legal frameworks, legislate if laws have not been enacted and take stern action those have been found involved in hatred campaign.

UN an Institution which is chartered & mandated to maintain peace & love among nations, removes threat and suppress any aggression to ensure a permanent peace and killing all such forces cropping into the way of coherence & conformity among the countries, well understanding (friendly environment), & remove if afflicting the principal of equal right and self-determination of people or leading to breach of justice.

Further UN being a custodian of universal peace achieves international cooperation, cares for fundamental freedom for all without distinction the deep seated prejudices such as race, sex, religion & language are eliminated.

We the Muslim are hopeful and looking UN to constitute law and its enforcement among the member countries to maintain peace and tranquility & rein the freedom of speech meaningfully instead provocative approach to stir Islam & or any specific religion.

Muqtida Mansoor
Muqtida Mansoor
  • Iqbal Hussain

I am fully agreed with you

Ayesha Saqib
Ayesha Saqib

Joined...:)
cannnot bear disrespect of our beloved Hazrat Muhammad(pbuh).May Allah make us stick togather for our Islam ever.
(Ameen)

Faiza Haroon
Faiza Haroon
  • Ayesha Saqib

http://www.causes.com/actions/1684524
Please Join & sign my petition. In my petition I have expressed my feelings not in anger but in a kind and sincere way. I believe that love can conquer anything & we should try to spread this message. InshaAllah if everyone unites together we can get the videos of our Beloved Prophet (PBUH) deleted. I want to reach out to the whole world and I know that it's possible =).

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