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Ovi Ovi
Ovi Ovi

"No one has the right to disrespect any religion or any particular group of people."
YOU ARE WRONG. THIS PETITION IS RIDICULOUS.
People can say what they want in a democracy - its called FREEDOM OF SPEECH! as you are free to believe in whatever you want so are people free to say what they want. If you want respect, show the same respect you want to others even if you don't agree!

Tobias Johansson
Tobias Johansson
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My guess is that the people signing this petition does not understand the importance of free speach. Or they just don´t like democracy.

Sabah Barakeh
Sabah Barakeh
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Im sorry but i think this is very contradictory... U say to show respect even if u dont agree, but telling people what they are doing is wrong and ridiculous isnt really respecting what u dont agree with..and what democracy are we talking about here? Because if people have the right to free speech, then others should have the right to protest and demostrate what they believe in.. Isnt all that part of 'democracy'? If they want to sign this petition that is their free choice and telling them...

Im sorry but i think this is very contradictory... U say to show respect even if u dont agree, but telling people what they are doing is wrong and ridiculous isnt really respecting what u dont agree with..and what democracy are we talking about here? Because if people have the right to free speech, then others should have the right to protest and demostrate what they believe in.. Isnt all that part of 'democracy'? If they want to sign this petition that is their free choice and telling them they shouldnt do that makes us just the same as those who oppose democracy.. Dont get me wrong, i am completely against hate and violence, but i do think that respect for peoples beliefs is important, without it, we will never be able to live together in peace just as history keeps proving to us time and time again..

Tobias Johansson
Tobias Johansson
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Sabah: I will let Ovgum answer about her phrasing, but just want to ask you: When you talk about respect to other peoples beliefs, do you think that should be controlled by law? Or more direct, do you support freedom of speech or not?

Tobias Johansson
Tobias Johansson
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And as for living together in peace, I think the only way to do that is for the world to become more secular and embrase science and reason instead of religion. As history keeps proving, religion is the cause of most conflicts. Can you name a war started over which atheist group believe in god the least?

Tobias Johansson
Tobias Johansson
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Speaking your mind (also on religion)=ok. Physical violence=not ok. Throwing democracy in the trashbin by censorship (of youtube for instance)=not ok. Do you understand the difference? Do you agree?

Nağme Yazgın
Nağme Yazgın
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'Because no one has the right to disrespect any religion or any particular group of people.' .... Yes they do have every right to disrespect any religion or any particular group of people. That's just the way it is. You have every right to be offended, but you don't have the right to censor others just because you're offended.

Tobias Johansson
Tobias Johansson
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Sabah, you have clearly not understood what I am saying. I do not want to censor the petition, I just argue against their pathetic demands. And yes, freedom of speech should apply to everyone equally, and it also does in most western countries. We will see what happens with the French case with the topless pictures, but the fact is that there was nothing stopping them from publishing them, they are still being published in newspapers, and if taken to the higher courts the publisher will be...

Sabah, you have clearly not understood what I am saying. I do not want to censor the petition, I just argue against their pathetic demands. And yes, freedom of speech should apply to everyone equally, and it also does in most western countries. We will see what happens with the French case with the topless pictures, but the fact is that there was nothing stopping them from publishing them, they are still being published in newspapers, and if taken to the higher courts the publisher will be freed from charges. But yes, also western countries should be criticized when doing something wrong, that is how democracy is upheld.

Ovi Ovi
Ovi Ovi
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Hi Sabah! I would be repeating Tobias with the things I would say to your first message so I am going to try and disdain from that. "No one has the right to disrespect any religion or any particular group of people." Yes they do as it is called freedom of speech and they are Wrong to say that. Agree?

Ovi Ovi
Ovi Ovi
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This petition is ridiculous not because it is religious but because of it's nature - because where does it end? then with this logic atheists can petition to block religious content which is offensive to reason and facts, and perhaps cows will petition to block steak houses and butchers in search results... spreading ideas like this as if it is ok will come back to limit people's freedom in many different ways! Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with what that fool did or what he is saying,...

This petition is ridiculous not because it is religious but because of it's nature - because where does it end? then with this logic atheists can petition to block religious content which is offensive to reason and facts, and perhaps cows will petition to block steak houses and butchers in search results... spreading ideas like this as if it is ok will come back to limit people's freedom in many different ways! Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with what that fool did or what he is saying, but let people criticize and there will always be someone that is offended... But may be people will also reconsider their stance and their beliefs through criticism...

Ovi Ovi
Ovi Ovi
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last but not least - democracy - or liberty - or freedom - or whatever you want to call it does EXIST - at different levels for different societies depending on their collective consciousness and will and I am grateful to live in such a society. While democracy is not perfect, it is an IDEAL to strive for exactly the end goal you mention - peace. All should be criticized for hypocritical and unequal treatments whether it is a western nation like France or some other nation like Saudi arabia...

last but not least - democracy - or liberty - or freedom - or whatever you want to call it does EXIST - at different levels for different societies depending on their collective consciousness and will and I am grateful to live in such a society. While democracy is not perfect, it is an IDEAL to strive for exactly the end goal you mention - peace. All should be criticized for hypocritical and unequal treatments whether it is a western nation like France or some other nation like Saudi arabia or North Korea. The only difference is that in France there will be justice because of a judicial system based on democracy however in many other nations with anti democratic systems there would be no justice....

Muddassir Ali Khan
Muddassir Ali Khan

Muslims are peaceful but extremists are every where...

Murad Irshad
Murad Irshad

Great Job

Aamer Hyjazie
Aamer Hyjazie

freedom of religion means freedom to respect other people religion, don't any one tell me about democracy when they don't believe in freedom of religion.

hail to freedom /.
hail to democracy /.
and more important hail to freedom of religion.

Muhammad Awan
Muhammad Awan

RESPECT IS THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT OF EVERY HUMAN.SO TO CLAIM FOR HUMANITY WE MUST PAY RESPECT TO OTHERS.AS MOON IS SYMBOL OF BEAUTY WE CANT SPIT ON MOON.LOVE CAN CONQUER THE WORLD SO WE MUST SPREAD LOVE.

Ehsan Ulhaq
Ehsan Ulhaq

I strongly recommend the cause.

Abdul Khalique
Abdul Khalique

agreed sir,

Mohsen Eldarawy
Mohsen Eldarawy

I agree

Tahar Zina
Tahar Zina

tahar zina agriculteur j.

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