I don't think kids should be put in jail or fined for missing school if they have a very good reason and can prove it. shame on the courts for getting involved in a schools problem take control u schools help these kids stop putting it in the courts.
Society is too soft (and so are you), too many liberals, and certainly in the UK at least. Agreed I think in that scenario it was harsh, but rules are rules. Kids think they can do what they like and parents make excuses about how they can't control them. Well the state has acted, and now the person knows there is a consequence to face.
Sam Okyere - You're so rude - and ignorant - and should go back to school and learn some manners. Maybe then you wouldn't start getting personal about Crystal expressing an opinion.
Has the state acted to support Dianes family so that she doesn't have to work two jobs at 17 to support her siblings? NO. Because the American system is a joke.
The British system is certainly not ideal, but it has been repeatedly proven that 'punishment' does not act to 'ENCOURAGE' students into school. ...
The British system is certainly not ideal, but it has been repeatedly proven that 'punishment' does not act to 'ENCOURAGE' students into school. If you want them in school then the PARENTS must act to instill a sense of ambition and the students MUST be allowed to take suitable courses - not railroaded into studying Science GCSE's when they want to be a tradesman. And that includes supporting families such as Dianes so that she CAN go to school - as we in the UK do (I've had many students over the years who have had financial support so that they can finish their education - and to continue being given money they have to attend school - so there's the incentive and the support). This is obviously a very dedicated and responsible young woman who has been punished for trying to do what's right.
Women being stoned to death for being raped is a rule in some countries. I wouldn't sit back and say 'well, rules are rules so they should be followed' - if something is blatantly WRONG you don't sit back and say hey, it's ok, because it's a rule. If that was the case black kids still wouldn't be able to go to schools with white kids and as a female I wouldn't've been allowed to attend school.
Such an astonishingly archaic view you have.
Go get a life Sam that girl was working to feed her family.And prison is no place for any student who hasnt done anything WRONG
Far from it, firstly for Crystal,it's hardly like it was abusive language was used or it was derogatory. but fair enough, then in the same breath you want to moan at me having the same view. It was far from ignorant. Sounds likeyou have experience in this area and so do I, so it's far from simply ignorance and basing it on a few media stories.
Agreed about your stoning comment and it's easy to use an extreme. But regardless of the punishment, don't commit the crime. And I said, I think...
Agreed about your stoning comment and it's easy to use an extreme. But regardless of the punishment, don't commit the crime. And I said, I think the jail sentence in this case was harsh based on the circumstances.
However, the liberalisation of laws ie. removal of death penalty, smacking in schools etc... I have not seen evidence of this softly softly approach making society more tolerant or patient. If you accept that with good there is bad, and with hot there is cold. Why is it that when it comes to discipline there is only one option. The softly softly one. In the UK we have people like liberty who are supposedly fighting to the rights of all individuals, when did they seek my views. Because I certainly don't agree with a lot of what they do. You have to be 18 to drink, have sex yet society turns a blind eye with regards to punishment. We have come so far along this approach it's no longer a shock to see a mother still at school. I still remember seeing in a British paper the headline of a 13 year old pregnant and the shock and horror of the public. not today.
I'm not saying lock up everyone who drinks or who has underage sex.. i'm saying that there are laws in place, if they are broken why not use them
Finally, I could produce evidence that shows punishment does work
San Okyere, you've lost touch with reality. Moreover, if you ever had even one shred of humanity, it oozed out along the way as well. Your narrow mind is also showing and here's a little 411: It's not something you should want anyone to see. Better to shut up while you can. Alternately, keep bumping your hateful gums and out yourself for everyone to gazed upon like a train wreck happening right in front of our eyes. Good Lord, man!
Now the person knows there is a consequence to for working at job to help support her family while studying hard enough, instead of sleeping, to get good grades! And once again I suggest that Black, and certainly Poor, children are most often punished with this discriminatory law. Squishy Liberals are always against punishing people, especially children, for being Non-white or Poor. Ain't Liberals terrible?
"Rules are rules," huh? Especially if you or anyone you love, if any, will never...
"Rules are rules," huh? Especially if you or anyone you love, if any, will never have to face punishment under rules made by lawmakers as un-empathetic and hard-hearted as you are. People who consider rules to be more important then people, people who are not humane, are despicable. Fortunately, you are a justifiably despised minority.
Maybe they think jail is a better educational system than the current one. If that's the case, then we most definitely need to improve the current system.
Jail is definitely not the place for children...at all...and I can tell you the judge is stupid for even suggesting it....there are other alternatives.. like picking up trash....lol
This is unbelievable.
@Scott--it is isn't it? And the judge had to re-think and did reverse his decision after such a public cry of outrage.
If they're going to send kids to jail then they must revamp the jails to accommodate kids education, I'm just saying if their going to do that for one they love giving kid psychotropics medications I'm against that all together...
What is happening in this world things have changed so much. I understand we all need to be educated to have a good job, but at this point this student was just trying to keep food on their table and a roof over their head she wasn't out there hurting any one, and I'm sure that when things would get a little better she would go back to school, it don't matter the age, because it's never too late to make a change. So instead of incarcerating her and fining her , they need to go and find the...
What is happening in this world things have changed so much. I understand we all need to be educated to have a good job, but at this point this student was just trying to keep food on their table and a roof over their head she wasn't out there hurting any one, and I'm sure that when things would get a little better she would go back to school, it don't matter the age, because it's never too late to make a change. So instead of incarcerating her and fining her , they need to go and find the ones that are out there stealing and killing and doing other bad things instead of that poor girl that was just trying to make a living for her and her family....
She broke the law....serves her right!!!!!
You'd want a different rule if it was your kid. Put yourself in this picture, what if it were your kid?
I think many comments here have missed the point - that there should not be a law that sends a mature young lady to prison for working and feeding her family, despite the fact that she should have been in school
Carlos: You are a moron. Wake up. Laws will not protect you in your stupidity.
jail should only be used for the real bad kid's not those who are working and trying to help their family in a good and positive way, not treated like a criminal.
I believe that there are certain circumstances that should be taken into consideration. If a student has a legitimate reason for missing school after the age of 16, I do not believe there should be a fine or jail time. This student is doing what a lot of teenagers her age is not and that is taking on much more responsiblity than many adults and should be given a break, it is not like she was playing hooky or getting into trouble or other things that most teenagers her age would do.
fuckin shit! all u fucks in charge over there like that bollox of a govenor or sheriff or what ever the fuck he is in arizona all need all need a fucken big enema of molten iron up your asses!
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now if they wer mexicans the woud get ever thing free.
jail is a traumatic experience, children of the united states who have h.s. or college diplomas usually end up in the food industry anyways...
maybe it'll be enough to snap them out back to reality and stay in school.
ya or maybe the good ones who have to miss such as the girl in this story may be like oh jaoils not that bad let me see what more trouble i can get into think before u write most people who go to jail always end up back hows that going to help anyone also what about the younger kids do you think its right for them to go to jail to theres other ways to handler this not scaring a kid for life these kids is the future
Is she a legal US Citizen?
what if she isn't ?
I think their FULL OF SHIT! THEY TRY TO GET THESE KIDS ANY WAY THEY CAN... THAT's WHY ALOT OF THEM DROP OUT... THINKING THEY CAN RUN OTHER PEOPLE LIVES... ITS REALLY RIDICULOUS HAVING THEM CALLING TO INFORM YOU THAT YO CHILD WAS MARKED TARDY OR ABSENT FOR WHATEVER PERIODS... THAT GETS ON MY NERVES... I DOn't ANSWER THE PHONE HALF THE TIME FOR THEIR BS... IM READY FOR MY SON TO GRADUATE AND GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE...
tell it like it is!