Brad Wagenaar
Brad Wagenaar

Imagine if the roles were reversed guys... How would you feel? Just as helpless as what we feeling at the moment and believe me, our kids are feeling the same... Please make a plan!

Joey Smit
Joey Smit

This is one petition I would sign thousand times.

Jurie O'Connell
Jurie O'Connell

WE CALL UNTO JESUS TO HELP!

Toni Macrides
Toni Macrides

WE ARE 100% AGAINST YOUR PETITION. It is biased, misleading and AGAINST human rights.

Whilst you deny your petition being racist, it is racist by the very fact that you are petitioning for 'White' South Africans only. A South African is a South African.

> We note that your petition does not include the other minority groups of South Africa - Coloured 8.9%, Indian and Asian 2.5% who also face hardships.
> We note that you do not report on how many black farmers there have been in South...

WE ARE 100% AGAINST YOUR PETITION. It is biased, misleading and AGAINST human rights.

Whilst you deny your petition being racist, it is racist by the very fact that you are petitioning for 'White' South Africans only. A South African is a South African.

> We note that your petition does not include the other minority groups of South Africa - Coloured 8.9%, Indian and Asian 2.5% who also face hardships.
> We note that you do not report on how many black farmers there have been in South Africa? How many owned land to farm and received the same benefits that Whites did?

Of the 14,000+ people who have signed this petition, What percentage of you have been into the townships of South Africa and spent time amongst the black people?

Black South Africans are killed every day in South Africa, as are whites. In every race there is 'good' and 'bad'. There are wonderful loving good black people. At the same time, there are aggressive horrible white people.

The forefathers of the same white minority group pleading for refugee status in this 'cause', enacted many pieces of legislation whose aim was to keep majority blacks out of their OWN cities (e.g. Native Land Act, Natives Urban Areas Act), etc. The majority of the population were forced to live like rats into severely overcrowded compounds and backyard shacks with little access to water, plumbing, shelter and food. Whilst Apartheid laws have fallen, the state of these townships is still diabolical - unemployment is incredibly high and therefore, thievery and violence is also high.

Why are we surprised when grossly suppressed people, now retaliate with violence?

"Daunting economic problems remain FROM THE APARTHEID ERA - especially poverty, lack of economic empowerment among the disadvantaged groups, and a shortage of public transportation", CIA Factbook.
> There are 4,8 Billion people in South Africa with white South Africans making up 4.6 Million (9.6%) and black South African's making up 38 Million (79%).
> Around 50% of the population live below the poverty line.
> If wealth was evenly distributed amongst the population, it would stand to reason that 2.3 Million whites should live below the poverty line - according to the 2010 Reuters report, this figure is more like 400,000.

Why are we surprised that when there is such disparity between those that have and those that don't have that violence will rise?

As a minority group, Whites held the majority vote for too many years. The black majority were prisoners and slaves in their own country, where they could not walk the streets after hours without a 'pass'(port). They could not receive an equivalent education and for those lucky to have a job as a 'maid' or 'garden boy' or blue collar worker - the wages were decided mostly by the white employer. "Pass laws also stated that black Africans could not hold a higher business position within a company than the lowest white employee" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pass_laws.

Why are we surprised when these grossly suppressed people in their own country now retaliate with violence? How quickly we forget the sins of our past. The pendulum had to swing in a major way to rectify a country so riddled with unfairness and inequality.

In answer to your question: “Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.”.

Yes, everyone has the right. Not just whites. Your petition is fundamentally exclusive, biased, misleading and racist. Find your black brothers and sisters and petition for them too. Until then as an Australian citizen, I am against your petition.

P.S.
In Australia, The Racial Discrimination Act 1975 aims to ensure that people of all backgrounds are treated equally and have the same opportunities. The Act also makes discrimination against people on the basis of their race, colour, descent or national or ethnic origin unlawful.

Cara-Lee Wiese
Cara-Lee Wiese
  • Toni Macrides

Nice little hate campaign going on here, Antonia. Makes me wonder what your real motivation is. You are once again accusing me falsely Antonia, I have not removed any comments. All your comments are either on your FB or on the FB page of the person who made the first comment. Get your facts straight. Well done for trying to close this petition down I have changed the word thug, however i feel that towards anyone who rape/torture and murder innocent people. You see Antonia the reason why this...

Nice little hate campaign going on here, Antonia. Makes me wonder what your real motivation is. You are once again accusing me falsely Antonia, I have not removed any comments. All your comments are either on your FB or on the FB page of the person who made the first comment. Get your facts straight. Well done for trying to close this petition down I have changed the word thug, however i feel that towards anyone who rape/torture and murder innocent people. You see Antonia the reason why this Petition is still up is because it is NOT racist and is based on facts. You are so brainwashed that you confuse facts with racism. This Petition is NOT ABOUT APARTHEID. I have never denied that there maybe reasons for the Genocide, but the reasons are IRRELEVANT to the fact that there is a Genocide happening. So you are saying that today's Genocide of the innocent White ethnic minority is justified by their ancestor's actions. What kind of person are you? Anyone is allowed to seek asylum if they are being persecuted by their Government, I totally agree with that! If the black people were persecuted in South Africa by their Government i would have petitioned for them. Fact is the leaders of the Government are promoting these murders against the white people and not the black people.

Cara-Lee Wiese
Cara-Lee Wiese
  • Toni Macrides

Antonia do you even understand what racism means? Please read the definition before you accuse me on a World wide Petition of being a racist. Where exactly am I a racist, please prove it? You should know that being a racist is against the law, accusing someone without any prove is defamation.

Cara-Lee Wiese
Cara-Lee Wiese
  • Toni Macrides

Do you fully understand the definition of Genocide? I don't think so. Please get this once and for all: the fact that thousands of innocent black or previously disadvantaged majority are killed by their own group is sad, unfortunate and unacceptable BUT is IRRELEVANT to the White Genocide. The fact is that a minority ethnical group, namely the White South Africans, is killed on a daily basis by another ethnical group and NOT the other way around. That is why it is a genocide. Genocide is...

Do you fully understand the definition of Genocide? I don't think so. Please get this once and for all: the fact that thousands of innocent black or previously disadvantaged majority are killed by their own group is sad, unfortunate and unacceptable BUT is IRRELEVANT to the White Genocide. The fact is that a minority ethnical group, namely the White South Africans, is killed on a daily basis by another ethnical group and NOT the other way around. That is why it is a genocide. Genocide is "the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group" the group that I am referring to is the White South Africans. White South Africans are in fact an ethnic group in their own right after approximately 300 years of British and Afrikaner inter- marrying, later joined by many other European Peoples like the Greeks ,Portuguese, Italians etc. The Afrikaners are today a SUB ethnic group of the LARGER White South African Ethnic Minority group. To call it a genocide is exactly what it is per definition, that is the ugly truth.

Cara-Lee Wiese
Cara-Lee Wiese
  • Toni Macrides

Thanks to modern technology we are now able to show to the world what you, and the South African government, are so desperately trying to hide. Now go on watch it again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylKgntJcP4s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fzRSE_p1Ys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_lF7zSjO2o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fzRSE_p1Ys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq-Sbltcd1c&feature=player_embedded

Cara-Lee Wiese
Cara-Lee Wiese
  • Toni Macrides

What kind of person would try and close a Petition down that is trying to stop a Genocide against innocent families in the "safety" of their homes?? Families and children that had NOTHING to do with apartheid, some of them were not even born when apartheid happened, then trying to justify it with cold hearted comments like "Why are we surprised when grossly suppressed people, now retaliate with violence?" Do you have no compassion for your fellow human beings? Why do YOU DISCRIMINATE??...

What kind of person would try and close a Petition down that is trying to stop a Genocide against innocent families in the "safety" of their homes?? Families and children that had NOTHING to do with apartheid, some of them were not even born when apartheid happened, then trying to justify it with cold hearted comments like "Why are we surprised when grossly suppressed people, now retaliate with violence?" Do you have no compassion for your fellow human beings? Why do YOU DISCRIMINATE?? Should the Jewish people also retaliate against the Germans because of what their forefathers did in the Nazi camps? Or what about the Aboriginals?? And then after this White genocide, should the Whites retaliate??

Karin Lore
Karin Lore
  • Toni Macrides

Cara, this person you are arguing with has 2 braincells, the one is dead, the other floating in its a/hole. Ignore comments like this. You have so many signatures FOR this petition and 2 idiots who are against it. What does that tell you? Ignore the ignorant - you know that saying, argue with a fool and they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience! Maybe when those against it visits SA, they will embrace their enemy and will then find out TOO LATE that they made a...

Cara, this person you are arguing with has 2 braincells, the one is dead, the other floating in its a/hole. Ignore comments like this. You have so many signatures FOR this petition and 2 idiots who are against it. What does that tell you? Ignore the ignorant - you know that saying, argue with a fool and they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience! Maybe when those against it visits SA, they will embrace their enemy and will then find out TOO LATE that they made a mistake, when they have their vaginas cut open with a broken beer bottle and their uterus' removed whilst still alive, like so many of our farmers wives.

Cara-Lee Wiese
Cara-Lee Wiese
  • Marc Wilson

Marc Wilson, you demonstrate a lack of understanding of the Moneyweb article, and you do that with unnecessary arrogance. Nowhere does the article state that there is NO Genocide. Where do you get that from? Do you fully understand the definition of Genocide? I don't think so. Please get this once and for all: the fact that thousands of innocent black or previously disadvantaged majority are killed by their own group is sad, unfortunate and unacceptable BUT is IRRELEVANT to the White...

Marc Wilson, you demonstrate a lack of understanding of the Moneyweb article, and you do that with unnecessary arrogance. Nowhere does the article state that there is NO Genocide. Where do you get that from? Do you fully understand the definition of Genocide? I don't think so. Please get this once and for all: the fact that thousands of innocent black or previously disadvantaged majority are killed by their own group is sad, unfortunate and unacceptable BUT is IRRELEVANT to the White Genocide. The fact is that a minority ethnical group, namely the White South Africans, is killed on a daily basis by another ethnical group and NOT the other way around. That is why it is a genocide. It does NOT matter whether a white farmer or a white city dweller is killed, it remains genocide - farm or city is IRRELEVANT. The ratios of farm murders to City murders are IRRELEVANT. Please get this. As you well know many of the ANC leaders, including the President and the ex youth President, are influencing their followers with songs like kill the Boer (Farmers/ Whites) - see youtube links provided. It is a disgrace that your fellow people are slaughtered on a daily basis and you CHOOSE to remain ignorant and in denial of the gruesome facts.

Cara-Lee Wiese
Cara-Lee Wiese
  • Marc Wilson

Marc Genocide is "the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group" I have not massaged anything to fit my ideals, the group that I am referring to is the White South Africans. White South Africans are in fact an ethnic group in their own right after approximately 300 years of British and Afrikaner inter- marrying, later joined by many other European Peoples like the Greeks, Portuguese, Italians etc. The Afrikaners are today a...

Marc Genocide is "the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group" I have not massaged anything to fit my ideals, the group that I am referring to is the White South Africans. White South Africans are in fact an ethnic group in their own right after approximately 300 years of British and Afrikaner inter- marrying, later joined by many other European Peoples like the Greeks, Portuguese, Italians etc. The Afrikaners are today a SUB ethnic group of the LARGER White South African Ethnic Minority group. To call it a genocide is exactly what it is per definition, that is the ugly truth. Whites ARE targeted, start reading the newspapers listen to the Government leaders, you SHOULD know you live there but you prefer to live with your head in the sand. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylKgntJcP4s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fzRSE_p1Ys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_lF7zSjO2o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fzRSE_p1Ys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq-Sbltcd1c&feature=player_embedded http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.nl/2012/10/genocide-watch-warns-afrikaners-to.html

Cara-Lee Wiese
Cara-Lee Wiese
  • Marc Wilson

Antonia so you are saying that today's Genocide of the innocent White ethnic minority is justified by their ancestor's actions. I did not deny that there maybe reasons fo the Genocide, but at least we agree that it exists. P.S why do you like your own comments?

Cara-Lee Wiese
Cara-Lee Wiese
  • Marc Wilson

What corner Marc? Antonia agreed with me that there is a White Genocide happening in South Africa and this is what this Petition is about, nothing will deter me from delivering this important message to the Australian Government!

Cara-Lee Wiese
Cara-Lee Wiese
  • Marc Wilson

Marc you just don't get it, do you? The ratio of black vs white farmers is IRRELEVANT to this Petition.It does NOT matter whether a white farmer or a white city dweller is killed, it remains genocide - farm or city is IRRELEVANT. The ratios of farm murders to City murders are IRRELEVANT. Please get this You are showing signs that you are an amateur with debating, now I will have to repeat myself until you get the message. Do you fully understand the definition of Genocide? I don't think so....

Marc you just don't get it, do you? The ratio of black vs white farmers is IRRELEVANT to this Petition.It does NOT matter whether a white farmer or a white city dweller is killed, it remains genocide - farm or city is IRRELEVANT. The ratios of farm murders to City murders are IRRELEVANT. Please get this You are showing signs that you are an amateur with debating, now I will have to repeat myself until you get the message. Do you fully understand the definition of Genocide? I don't think so. Please get this once and for all: the fact that thousands of innocent black or previously disadvantaged majority are killed by their own group is sad, unfortunate and unacceptable BUT is IRRELEVANT to the White Genocide. The fact is that a minority ethnical group, namely the White South Africans, is killed on a daily basis by another ethnical group and NOT the other way around. That is why it is a genocide. Marc Genocide is "the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group" I have not massaged anything to fit my ideals, the group that I am referring to is the White South Africans. White South Africans are in fact an ethnic group in their own right after approximately 300 years of British and Afrikaner inter- marrying, later joined by many other European Peoples like the Greeks, ortuguese, Italians etc. The Afrikaners are today a SUB ethnic group of the LARGER White South African Ethnic Minority group. To call it a genocide is exactly what it is per definition, that is the ugly truth. And it is NOT about class Murc, why don't the thousands of poor White people in squatter camps rape/torture and murder the rich and wealthy families?

Lee Boyd
Lee Boyd
  • Marc Wilson

Cara....Why do you even try and debate with liberal minded folk. Words like bigot, racist, fascist etc is all they will throw at you. When all the following fit the ANC perfectly, yet he some how misses to mention that. People like Marc will go all out to attack folk like yourself, yet hides behind his big walls and 24hr armed response security, while he does so from his laptop and claims to be helping his country. Ah the white race of S.A. take down your big walls, razor/electric fences and...

Cara....Why do you even try and debate with liberal minded folk. Words like bigot, racist, fascist etc is all they will throw at you. When all the following fit the ANC perfectly, yet he some how misses to mention that. People like Marc will go all out to attack folk like yourself, yet hides behind his big walls and 24hr armed response security, while he does so from his laptop and claims to be helping his country. Ah the white race of S.A. take down your big walls, razor/electric fences and move out your security estates. You'll understand genocide. And it's a sad state of affairs that as i work in war zones, your murder, rape, car jacking rates are higher and that's just the white race on it's own. Townships, well i bet you've never been in one and will definitely avoid driving past one at night. Am i correct Marc. Your children's school i'm guessing has better security than my residence at present in a war zone. It would seem the Black youth of S.A. have finally woken to the ride they have been taken on. And people like yourself Marc are collateral damage. You've also done jack s**t to change that. Patronising Cara will get you no brownie points, you're white and hated. But hey, you can talk about all your country problems tonight over a braai and some wine as you send the gardener and maid off home with that pathetic 200 pound a month wage you pay them. while S.A. burns around you with your head in the sand.

Marc Wilson
Marc Wilson
  • Marc Wilson

good for you. I must admit I am tired of this debate. Some whites hate blacks, some blacks hate whites, the poor envy the rich and the rich think they own the world and yet the world continues to turn. That's the way of things. Not all liberals hate the military and so on and so on. Not all youth think Mugabe and his pet frog Malema are the best thing since communism. We tend to exaggerate things, we like bad news, we love apocolyptic news! As far as I am concerned this petition is bullsh*t!...

good for you. I must admit I am tired of this debate. Some whites hate blacks, some blacks hate whites, the poor envy the rich and the rich think they own the world and yet the world continues to turn. That's the way of things. Not all liberals hate the military and so on and so on. Not all youth think Mugabe and his pet frog Malema are the best thing since communism. We tend to exaggerate things, we like bad news, we love apocolyptic news! As far as I am concerned this petition is bullsh*t! The people who back it should be ashamed. There is a lot of crime here and a lot of people (black,white, Indian and Coloured) have experienced it. I hate it and wish everyone affected peace and recovery. I don't hate blacks because most of the criminals are black, this is poverty. If whites were in their place then most crimes would be committed by whites and so on and so. The ANC has lost its way, it current leaders are a shame but SA and its people are awesome. I wish you the best Lee and everyone else. I am signing off from this fruitless argument.

Marc Wilson
Marc Wilson
  • Marc Wilson

Actually Frank point of order. You hate liberals which makes you a conservative racist bigot I am guessing. If so you racist types are the cause of all our problems, the blacks that hate whites hate us because of the way YOU people treat (treated) them. We liberals are trying to right the wrongs you caused. Your rant is self-loathing at its best. I say what I want to whom I want and because I am not a conservative racist I am not afraid of offending anyone because I don't have that hate in...

Actually Frank point of order. You hate liberals which makes you a conservative racist bigot I am guessing. If so you racist types are the cause of all our problems, the blacks that hate whites hate us because of the way YOU people treat (treated) them. We liberals are trying to right the wrongs you caused. Your rant is self-loathing at its best. I say what I want to whom I want and because I am not a conservative racist I am not afraid of offending anyone because I don't have that hate in me. You are rude, a bigot, confused and stupid Frank. I suggest some therapy, maybe hug a tree :) Or find a bucket and vomit up some more garbage in it!!!

Jeff Mugo
Jeff Mugo

CONGRATULATIONS! YOU ARE NOW CERTIFIED WITH "HOW TO BECOME A RACIST IN A FEW DAYS."

Cara-Lee Wiese
Cara-Lee Wiese
  • Jeff Mugo

REALLY AND HOW AM A RACIST? GO READ THE DEFINITION OF RACIST AND THEN PROOF TO ME WHERE I AM RACIST.

Kirstin Benadé
Kirstin Benadé
  • Jeff Mugo

I think you mean PROVE. Maybe you should read the Dictionary more often.

Cara-Lee Wiese
Cara-Lee Wiese
  • Jeff Mugo

Kirstin Benadé you have called me a racist bigot and a racist idiot on this Petition. I have asked you every time to PROVE to me where I am racist, and thus far you have not been able to tell me. The sign of a true idiot is when they claim accusations without giving reasons...resorting to petty personal attacks.

Jeff Mugo
Jeff Mugo
  • Jeff Mugo

RACISM entails the belief that members of a race share a set of characteristic traits, abilities, or qualities, that traits of personality, intellect, morality, and other cultural behavioral characteristics are inherited, and that this inheritance means that races can be ranked as innately superior or inferior to others..... WILL YOU BE TAKING SOME OF THE BLACK FOLKS WHO HAVE HAD BAD EXPERIENCES WITH YOU TO EXILE OR ASYLUM? Or... let me guess... their personality, intellect, morality, and...

RACISM entails the belief that members of a race share a set of characteristic traits, abilities, or qualities, that traits of personality, intellect, morality, and other cultural behavioral characteristics are inherited, and that this inheritance means that races can be ranked as innately superior or inferior to others..... WILL YOU BE TAKING SOME OF THE BLACK FOLKS WHO HAVE HAD BAD EXPERIENCES WITH YOU TO EXILE OR ASYLUM? Or... let me guess... their personality, intellect, morality, and other cultural behavioral characteristics do not fit in ..do they?

Jeff Mugo
Jeff Mugo
  • Jeff Mugo

now that i have defined and "PROOFED" that you are racist, which country do you recommend the BLACKS who have suffered seek audience with.. KENYA? or may be HAITI? or FIJI?

Cara-Lee Wiese
Cara-Lee Wiese
  • Jeff Mugo

Where, oh where, did i rank anyone to be superior or inferior?? If the black folks are persecuted by their Government and if their Government sing songs to kill them then they should be granted asylum too. SORRY BUT YOU HAVE NOT PROOFED ANYTHING AND YOU GUESSED WRONG. The black people in South Africa voted for the ruling government to rule over them and since they are the majority they are able to change this with their voting power.

Kirstin Benadé
Kirstin Benadé
  • Jeff Mugo

"The black people in South Africa voted for the ruling government to rule over them and since they are the majority they are able to change this with their voting power." There's an example of you saying that all black people are responsible for the situation that South Africa is in. Not every single black person thinks the same things just like not every white person thinks the same things.

Kirstin Benadé
Kirstin Benadé
  • Jeff Mugo

PS: I don't see how pointing out one of your many spelling/grammar mistakes is "petty". Learning to communicate effectively is rather important.

John Ferreira
John Ferreira

All was not milk and honey and beds of thornless roses! As a child I was confronted and threatend with a knife. We also lived in ciuncil houses like the blacks, indians and coloured people only having to pay a lot more for it. As a young man I had to eat porridge in the morning and evening due to hardship. The mould in the cheese was removed and the rest eaten. I was unemployed for a stretch of 4 years and could not erect a shack and live in it like the blacks do, I would be arrested and put...

All was not milk and honey and beds of thornless roses! As a child I was confronted and threatend with a knife. We also lived in ciuncil houses like the blacks, indians and coloured people only having to pay a lot more for it. As a young man I had to eat porridge in the morning and evening due to hardship. The mould in the cheese was removed and the rest eaten. I was unemployed for a stretch of 4 years and could not erect a shack and live in it like the blacks do, I would be arrested and put behind bars. I worked in white peoples gardens and baby sat for them just to earn a plate of food. For voting and wishing the end to war we are know being annihilated. I would love to wok as hard as I did in any other country in this country knowing I am not about to be murderd.....

Cara-Lee Wiese
Cara-Lee Wiese
  • John Ferreira

So sorry to read about your hardship John.

John Ferreira
John Ferreira
  • John Ferreira

Please pardon the spelling errors...typing is not my forte.

John Ferreira
John Ferreira
  • John Ferreira

Cara-Lee Wiese , Its ok, thanks. At the end of the day it makes one mature and strong...

Jim Jardine
Jim Jardine
  • John Ferreira

get a group together and sail to Autralia. We welcome refugees andn give them amazing benefits. You could also just join in and nfollow some yatchs into port and call up the Australian/ south african support group.

John Ferreira
John Ferreira
  • John Ferreira

Hmmm....you're giving me an idea. Will take sometime to get there though..

Madoline Reed
Madoline Reed
  • John Ferreira

i really hope you make it, this story needs to be shared with australia & the world until they listen

John Ferreira
John Ferreira
  • John Ferreira

All I can ay is "hold on to your seats, the worst is still to come" All you need to see is the incident that took place at the Lonmin Mine and you will know that there is no value for another persons life.

John Ferreira
John Ferreira
  • John Ferreira

Good morning, please let me update u.... in this mornings local newspaper: Man throttled with a rope then thrown from a bridge into a river. Charles Beresford Pretorius Jobling ( 56) was murdered on his farm after which his body was taken in his own vehicle and dumped into a river.... News just in!: A farmer , Mr Mauritz, was shot in the leg yesterday on his farm and clubbed to death with a spade. His wife found him later....fireamrs and household goods stolen...

Steve Oelofsen
Steve Oelofsen

its not only afrikaans people been murdered its any body with a white skin.

Peace Delangelo
Peace Delangelo
  • Steve Oelofsen

My heart goes out to you and all those with white skin in your country, and all those that are being persecuted. If only there realised that thye will have to answer to my heavenly Fther on judgement day, there is no place in the Kingdom of God for murders!!!

Gottlieb Gauche
Gottlieb Gauche
  • Steve Oelofsen

They don't believe in God. They are communists that believe in forefather worshipping and witch doctors. Like in the past they have no regard for human life.

Colette Jordaan Vd Poll
Colette Jordaan Vd Poll
  • Steve Oelofsen

It breaks my heart! I have a young brother and his family here in Aus. My eldest brother, divorced for many years, moved here recently but his two children are staying with their mother in SA. My husband and I and our two teenage children moved here a year ago and are awaiting our permanent residency. My mom and step dad are here in Aus on a 2 year visa and as soon as we have residency they can apply for a parental visa. Unfortunately our youngest sister and her little boy have no...

It breaks my heart! I have a young brother and his family here in Aus. My eldest brother, divorced for many years, moved here recently but his two children are staying with their mother in SA. My husband and I and our two teenage children moved here a year ago and are awaiting our permanent residency. My mom and step dad are here in Aus on a 2 year visa and as soon as we have residency they can apply for a parental visa. Unfortunately our youngest sister and her little boy have no choice to stay in SA, my dad is also staying behind. I wish I could bring every family member over as I know they are not safe in SA. I always pray that God will protect my family, friends, former colleagues and every single South African who is affected by the current situation in SA. I miss you all and love you soooooo much!

Rachel Morrow
Rachel Morrow
  • Steve Oelofsen

This is truly pathetic. And motivated by open and uneducated racism. Do you honestly think that only white people are being affected by crime in SA????? Do yourselves a favour and read Afika's comment above. It resounds with accuracy and truth. Your comments resound with racism, ignorance and weakness.

Sharon Dreyer
Sharon Dreyer
  • Steve Oelofsen

Thank you Tallulah for some reality. It is very racist to only worry about white South Africans when so many of other races suffer under the hands of criminals. Crime in SA must be stopped for ALL who live in our beautiful land not just white people.

MadamTechy ChicagoButch
MadamTechy ChicagoButch
  • Steve Oelofsen

and your point is?

Kathleen Venter
Kathleen Venter
  • Steve Oelofsen

they are afraid of their own people. they would kill their own family to help themselves. i dont understand how inhuman they can be. the whites are suffering yes especially with regards employment.

Kathleen Venter
Kathleen Venter
  • Steve Oelofsen

Colette Jordaan Vd Poll my son and his wife are in australia. we are now a very split family. very sad. i miss him but cant afford to go and see him,

Marius Myburgh
Marius Myburgh

I can't support this, even though there are some facts stated in the comments left by fellow South Africans and in this petition. My problem however is the assumptions that goes along with it about others whether it is their race, religion or political views. By now we all know the story of ASS-U-ME and the Afrikaans saying "moenie almal onder dieselfde kam skeer nie". Cara-Lee farm murders need to be view in a more serious light yes, but saying that everything on here is fact makes me think...

I can't support this, even though there are some facts stated in the comments left by fellow South Africans and in this petition. My problem however is the assumptions that goes along with it about others whether it is their race, religion or political views. By now we all know the story of ASS-U-ME and the Afrikaans saying "moenie almal onder dieselfde kam skeer nie". Cara-Lee farm murders need to be view in a more serious light yes, but saying that everything on here is fact makes me think that you are playing a dangerous game here and seriously hope you aren't the future of any political party (NP died long ago).

Cara-Lee Wiese
Cara-Lee Wiese
  • Marius Myburgh

Marius can you please point out and substantiate those items that you consider not to be factual. Also point out where I, ASS-U-ME or "skeer almal onder dieselfde kam." Marius I am not accusing just asking, are you also one of those liberals that prefer that we do nothing about our people that are being murdered and rather keep our heads in the sand?

Marius Myburgh
Marius Myburgh
  • Marius Myburgh

I support your view that farm murders need to be looked at as stated in my first comment...but I did see that you left a comment somewhere stating that everything is factual and that you support some of the people's comments that are based on assumptions. and yes my views are liberal in the sense that your petition should include every south that is in fear of their life living in this country not just whites, but this petition is based on whites being murdered by blacks. It seems as if you...

I support your view that farm murders need to be looked at as stated in my first comment...but I did see that you left a comment somewhere stating that everything is factual and that you support some of the people's comments that are based on assumptions. and yes my views are liberal in the sense that your petition should include every south that is in fear of their life living in this country not just whites, but this petition is based on whites being murdered by blacks. It seems as if you are stating that if you are white you will die at a hand of a black person. quote " a highly educated and experienced man like yourself fail to see the real truth of what is happening - that blacks are murdering whites every single day. South Africa is the only country in the world where one race (Negroid) is murdering another race (Caucasian) on a consistent one sided basis" now that is a reply from you to someone else's comment. I just think you need a broader view of what is going on, on all racial frontiers as for example a black girl was raped and robbed the other day on her way to varsity to go and register...it doesn't seem too me that violence is just one sided, but i will say again yes some crimes do need more attention like farm murders. And the assumptions aren't just from you it is all of them left over this whole petition. Hope that makes sense, and don't always be on the attack when people disagree with your views...

Marius Myburgh
Marius Myburgh
  • Marius Myburgh

That is where you make the mistake by saying you can only fight for "your people" and stop by saying "your people", you make it sound like we only choose to associate ourselves with one group of people. South Africa will never move forward and probably become the next Zim unless the people across all racial, religion and political views that wants SA to succeed and be fruitful start working together with each other for each other. We are past that era of whites for whites and blacks for...

That is where you make the mistake by saying you can only fight for "your people" and stop by saying "your people", you make it sound like we only choose to associate ourselves with one group of people. South Africa will never move forward and probably become the next Zim unless the people across all racial, religion and political views that wants SA to succeed and be fruitful start working together with each other for each other. We are past that era of whites for whites and blacks for blacks, even though the aftermath is still visible. I will give it to you, you did something to raise awareness, but the direction this is heading in I am criticising. In the end this petition will become a racial word fight and nothing will be gain by it. for your sake I hope I am wrong

Cara-Lee Wiese
Cara-Lee Wiese
  • Marius Myburgh

You are confusing a People (volk) with a Nation. See the dictionary for the difference. There are gross atrocities (genocide) committed against my specific People by members of other Peoples within the larger South African Nation. This is the actual subject at hand. All citizens of South Africa, irrespective of race, religion or culture constitute the South African Nation. This petition concerns only my People as mentioned, which is a MINORITY People being killed off by the majority which is...

You are confusing a People (volk) with a Nation. See the dictionary for the difference. There are gross atrocities (genocide) committed against my specific People by members of other Peoples within the larger South African Nation. This is the actual subject at hand. All citizens of South Africa, irrespective of race, religion or culture constitute the South African Nation. This petition concerns only my People as mentioned, which is a MINORITY People being killed off by the majority which is the main reason for me starting this petition. I am not stopping anyone from taking action for the whole South African Nation. In fact the media and other activists are already doing a great job raising awareness of all the crime in South Africa.

Marius Myburgh
Marius Myburgh
  • Marius Myburgh

No I am not confusing "volk" with Nation. You seem to be the confused one that is stuck on repeat like some record player. Saying the same stuff over and over just in different words and not concluding on any point I am making to you. Anyhow this going nowhere, wish you all the best.

Cara-Lee Wiese
Cara-Lee Wiese
  • Marius Myburgh

If you understand the difference why do YOU fail to grasp the point. And yea this will not go anywhere, that's right move on in your denial just like your masters the ANC.

Marius Myburgh
Marius Myburgh
  • Marius Myburgh

yes clearly I am the idiot but your the one who deleted one of your own posts.

Cara-Lee Wiese
Cara-Lee Wiese
  • Marius Myburgh

haha You accuse me falsely again, why would I delete anything? I have not said anything that I have not said before and I will repeat it again. If you want me to repeat the post I will gladly do it :)

Cara-Lee Wiese
Cara-Lee Wiese
  • Marius Myburgh

My previous post that was deleted " The daily murders is a serious matter going on for 20 year and needs more than just "looking at" I was reading this morning that in the last 48 hours 3 more whites were killed in Muldersdrift, Port Elizabeth, Villiers and another innocent victim from Rustenburg was bashed with a spanner by a group of blacks and is fighting for his life in hospital. It is a disgrace that you are made aware of theses atrocities of 20 years on your very own People and still...

My previous post that was deleted " The daily murders is a serious matter going on for 20 year and needs more than just "looking at" I was reading this morning that in the last 48 hours 3 more whites were killed in Muldersdrift, Port Elizabeth, Villiers and another innocent victim from Rustenburg was bashed with a spanner by a group of blacks and is fighting for his life in hospital. It is a disgrace that you are made aware of theses atrocities of 20 years on your very own People and still you choose to criticise and frustrate the actions of those that are trying to do something about it. Obviously I am aware that innocent blacks are also victims of black murderers. I encourage others to also petition for these victims.However I am only one person and can only fight for my own People."

Adam Dean
Adam Dean
  • Marius Myburgh

Marius Myburgh you are trying to use a logical argument to argue with an illogical 17 year old uneducated model. It wont work. Have you seen all of the people who have pleaded for her to take this petition down? She wont do it. The key is to not talk to Cara but to talk to the people reading this page. It is a public space inviting comments, say what you want as often as you want to.

Pierre Besaans
Pierre Besaans
  • Marius Myburgh

There is going to be a drastic change in the country, in the not to distant future.

Annie Potgieter
Annie Potgieter

This is so far away from the truth. Stop clothing your racism in claims of human rights and go read a book.

Cara-Lee Wiese
Cara-Lee Wiese
  • Annie Potgieter

Racism involves the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. Please offer me an example of where in my petition, I claim that white south africans are superior to black south africans? Furthermore, you do not even know what my political views are. Go read a dictionary before throwing accusations around.

Annie Potgieter
Annie Potgieter
  • Annie Potgieter

Can you PLEASE enlighten me as to HOW white South Africans are suffering from a genocide? Do you even understand what genocide means? People who have been involved in genocides would laugh at this. Rwanda, Cambodia and many other countries that have been truly involved in genocides will spit on this claim. Can you please enlighten me, a white South African who is supposedly being persecuted in my country (even though I don't know it), as to how I am involved in a genocide?

Cara-Lee Wiese
Cara-Lee Wiese
  • Annie Potgieter
Annie Potgieter
Annie Potgieter
  • Annie Potgieter

Throwing statistics around is not an answer.

Cara-Lee Wiese
Cara-Lee Wiese
  • Annie Potgieter

jgoogle/youtube genocide in south-africa and start reading the news papers for a change.

Annie Potgieter
Annie Potgieter
  • Annie Potgieter

Excuse me, dear, but I read plenty to know that I, along with all other white South Africans, am not involved in a genocide. Horrible crimes, yes. Racism, yes. But there is no genocide. The crimes that you're using as examples are not examples of genocide - by simply excluding the crimes committed against other races (of which, by the way, the statistics are staggering) so as to prove a point that a particular race is being persecuted by the country does not make you correct. Arguing with...

Excuse me, dear, but I read plenty to know that I, along with all other white South Africans, am not involved in a genocide. Horrible crimes, yes. Racism, yes. But there is no genocide. The crimes that you're using as examples are not examples of genocide - by simply excluding the crimes committed against other races (of which, by the way, the statistics are staggering) so as to prove a point that a particular race is being persecuted by the country does not make you correct. Arguing with you is pointless - I am going to walk to the shop (where I probably won't be shot down) and buy some food to eat (because the country protects my rights to do so freely) and walk back home to my safe house that has not yet been ransacked by mobs of people trying to kill me and my family. I like this new definition of genocide.

Dan Corder
Dan Corder
  • Annie Potgieter

ma'am, with all due respect, when you have real sources which are validated as reliable and accurate, then please offer them. Until then, please come and visit SA. I'll show you your ignorance myself. And by the way, if you want to know how you are being blatantly racist, you are othering. Have you been lucky enough in your 'education' to have been taught about this concept?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  • Annie Potgieter

Cara-Lee, you are an incredibly ignorant young lady. You throw around statistics that suit your argument, but without the opposing statistics they mean nothing and your argument is completely invalid. Your sources are also unpublished and are not peer-reviewed, they are extremely biased and opinion-based and hold no ground whatsoever in the real world. Yes, there is racism in South Africa, yes, there are hate crimes - it happens everywhere in the world. You seem to think that only white...

Cara-Lee, you are an incredibly ignorant young lady. You throw around statistics that suit your argument, but without the opposing statistics they mean nothing and your argument is completely invalid. Your sources are also unpublished and are not peer-reviewed, they are extremely biased and opinion-based and hold no ground whatsoever in the real world. Yes, there is racism in South Africa, yes, there are hate crimes - it happens everywhere in the world. You seem to think that only white people are being murdered. Because of apartheid, the majority of the poor are black; their population also outweighs that of Caucasians and so, yes, more crimes are committed by the black population than the white, but that does not mean they are trying to wipe us out. If you feel you need proof, then feel free to read this journal article:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0304387804001117

Just because Malema is a racist idiot - along with a few other politicians - does not mean that they are attempting a genocide.
In 2008, 39,8% of whites were unemployed - this is in comparison to blacks at 56.9%. Once again, here is my source: http://www.statssa.gov.za/Publications/P02111/P021112008.pdf

Clive Brink
Clive Brink
  • Annie Potgieter

And you believe these rosy-coloured sources. SARS also say they now have a tax base of 13-14% of the population but when worked back it only boils to 3% of the population paying tax. Perhaps it should be the means test for South Africans to vote - if you are not an active tax payer you shouldn't be allowed to vote.

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