Perry Svensen
Perry Svensen

You have about a .0003% chance of being shot by a gun based on population by percentage of gun deaths, the number of homicide gun deaths is about the same as the DUI deaths number.
Just because you own a gun, a smart phone or like a drink doesn't mean you are going to kill someone, or that you want to kill someone.

Drew Tedd
Drew Tedd
  • Perry Svensen

you know i love ya buddy......but let's translate percentages to hard numbers...The CDC estimating 52,447 deliberate and 23,237 accidental non-fatal gunshot injuries in the United States during 2000

Drew Tedd
Drew Tedd
  • Perry Svensen

52, 447 is a high number no mater what percentage of somthing it is.

Drew Tedd
Drew Tedd
  • Perry Svensen

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Ushomicidesbyweapon.svg thought you would find this interesting...this is the actual # of deaths across the u.s relating to handguns vs. other weapons. The stats that i posted above where just injuries.

Perry Svensen
Perry Svensen
  • Perry Svensen

I am just fed up with all this crap that keeps getting posted and sent to media (yes social media is media) by people who really don't bother to care about facts just their opinion and they bombard us with their opinions everyday. Squeaky wheel concept I guess, so sometimes I get annoyed and try to show another side of a coin. The system we have for handguns ownership here in Canada is so superior in my opinion to what they use in general in the USA, you would not believe it unless you...

I am just fed up with all this crap that keeps getting posted and sent to media (yes social media is media) by people who really don't bother to care about facts just their opinion and they bombard us with their opinions everyday. Squeaky wheel concept I guess, so sometimes I get annoyed and try to show another side of a coin. The system we have for handguns ownership here in Canada is so superior in my opinion to what they use in general in the USA, you would not believe it unless you actually went through it to own a handgun here. Long guns here are also hard to get here legally because you must go through a course, police checks and then when you purchase a gun you must show the related federal ID to buy one. Yes we don't actually have to register the long guns, but that is because we have already jumped through more hoops than almost any other country for the ability to legally own and possese said guns. when it comes to male ownership especially for handguns, the RCMP even interview spouses and or other females like siblings to make sure we are stable, they also do mental health checks, criminal conviction checks before they issue you a classification to own a handgun, and then when and if you acquire a restricted weapon you must get a special ATT permission to transport from Point A to B, and only between your legal residence and a registered shooting range. So no you can't take a restricted weapon out in your back yard and shoot tin cans Legally.
SO the criminals are illegally owning guns and they are not registering them or carrying cards to identify themselves or their legal right to own said guns.

Perry Svensen
Perry Svensen
  • Perry Svensen

Drew will notice I dumbed this post down from a side conversation we have been having, mostly because cut and paste is easier than retyping the same sentiment 2 times.

Janet Esposito
Janet Esposito

Two of my three children work in NYC. I couldn't get on the phone with them quickly enough this morning to make sure they were safe and, thank God, they are. But, again, we have tragic loss of lives and injuries from random a shooting. This is not the Wild West! We do not have to walk around armed and spoiling for trouble. Tighten gun control!

Ad Bavoso Benvengo
Ad Bavoso Benvengo
  • Janet Esposito

My son is a LTD. in the NYPD, thank God, God is always looking after him. Today he was on vacation.

Marie Maggiore Garofano
Marie Maggiore Garofano
  • Janet Esposito

Glad they are fine . I have a relative that is a manager at Foley's which is 30 feet away from where the shots were fired . He is fine too .

Goldie Holzer
Goldie Holzer
  • Janet Esposito

Ina: That's what Hitler wanted and got and look where that country ended up. those of us who remember Hitler will not willingly let that happen here. And I'll say THIS again....if you don't live here...SHUT UP! It's none of your business!

Goldie Holzer
Goldie Holzer
  • Janet Esposito

And I'm talking to anyone not from here. Ina may be from here and in that case has a right to speak, not that I or most of us on here will agree with her.

Marge Pancari
Marge Pancari
  • Janet Esposito

So glad to hear all your family are safe. lol marge

Benjamin Bowman
Benjamin Bowman

You can try and take my guns. I'll give you a bullet before I hand over the gun. I have a right to protect myself. How can I protect myself from a person wielding a gun, if I'm not wielding a gun?

Adam Malmo
Adam Malmo
  • Benjamin Bowman

Stay out of bad neighborhoods with crime. I think your pretty safe w/o a gun in Big Rapids. Just sayin...

Benjamin Bowman
Benjamin Bowman
  • Benjamin Bowman

But I want a gun, not so that I can kill people, but so that I can hunt, and shoot targets. Because its fun. If I have to have protection, I want protection.
I wont give them up.

Adam Malmo
Adam Malmo
  • Benjamin Bowman

I'm all for the right to bear arms too. I'm just saying I wouldnt worry to much about getting robbed or held at gunpoint in BR

Benjamin Bowman
Benjamin Bowman
  • Benjamin Bowman

Lol, yea, all the murders that have taken place here in the last 10-15 years (1 murder) was with a knife... go figure...

Adam Malmo
Adam Malmo
  • Benjamin Bowman

You could walk around the worst neighborhood in town flaunting a million dollars at 2 am and still be relativley safe

Eduardo Martinez
Eduardo Martinez

On common sense basis, I have always wondered why the USA citizens believe they need fire arms to defend themselves.
We have over 200 countries on the Earth. Do USA citizens believe they are cleverer than the rest of the world population and that is the reason why they assume that is the right decision?
Or is it possible that they are ill educated bringing forward a habit necessary when the Far West was wild?
Eduardo Martinez, CHA, USA

Maximo Barderas
Maximo Barderas
  • Eduardo Martinez

I think it's the second reason. The cowboy culture is in the roots of their society.

Vanya Miguel
Vanya Miguel
  • Eduardo Martinez

Dear uncle soy david I have to unfortunatley disagree inmensely with you on this point as I own a gun myself for protection just to let you in on two examples when nikita was 3 months old three robers came into our house ready to do wrong and I used my gun in self defence another one is while my wife and I were at work I had to rush home to find out 3 men had come into my house and put a gun to nikita and tristan and the maids heads asking them for money tell me should I not arm myself when...

Dear uncle soy david I have to unfortunatley disagree inmensely with you on this point as I own a gun myself for protection just to let you in on two examples when nikita was 3 months old three robers came into our house ready to do wrong and I used my gun in self defence another one is while my wife and I were at work I had to rush home to find out 3 men had come into my house and put a gun to nikita and tristan and the maids heads asking them for money tell me should I not arm myself when if u ever had the time I can tell you the most horrific stories you ever heard just a quick one listen to this I have friends where the whole street of nieghbours have been either killed or shot now think twice before u even imagine when countries like america and south africa need to arm themselves un abrazo

Vanya Miguel
Vanya Miguel
  • Eduardo Martinez

Unfortunately we don't live in Europe, where violent crime is unheard of, but for countries like SA and the USA we have drug lords, rapists, and murderers roaming our streets daily and freely, at least in America the death penalty still exists in some states, but in SA, you kill someone and 2 years later you are out killing again, because they don't believe in that here in SA, so our jails are over crowded, so our only means of protection is a gun, and if we didn't own one we wouldve just...

Unfortunately we don't live in Europe, where violent crime is unheard of, but for countries like SA and the USA we have drug lords, rapists, and murderers roaming our streets daily and freely, at least in America the death penalty still exists in some states, but in SA, you kill someone and 2 years later you are out killing again, because they don't believe in that here in SA, so our jails are over crowded, so our only means of protection is a gun, and if we didn't own one we wouldve just been one of the statics of murdered people. It is sad but that is how we have to live to survive, it has nothing to do with being a cowboy society, but for pure survival

Eduardo Martinez
Eduardo Martinez
  • Eduardo Martinez

I fully understand your point of view but I would like to add some items not consider in your comments:
1. Thousands of children get killed every year in USA by having access to fire arms.
2. We have suffered in our own family the consequences of having the facility of owning a gun to commit suicide.
I imagine if we had arms in Spain, instead of getting about 100 people killed every year (wives, husbands, children, grannies), we would have thousands of them. On top of that, our suicide...

I fully understand your point of view but I would like to add some items not consider in your comments:
1. Thousands of children get killed every year in USA by having access to fire arms.
2. We have suffered in our own family the consequences of having the facility of owning a gun to commit suicide.
I imagine if we had arms in Spain, instead of getting about 100 people killed every year (wives, husbands, children, grannies), we would have thousands of them. On top of that, our suicide figures which are at the moment approximately 3.300 men and 700 women every year, would jump to stratospheric figures.
We have had one very important incident in Spain because royalty has the right to have arms. The actual King of Spain killed his elder brother by accident when they were children. If we all had arms at home, those incidents would be of a similar nature to that of USA. I don't know the statistics about that type of incident in South Africa.
3. To summarize, I do believe the need to have arms, show that there is a very big problem in those countries where it is necessary. The solution is not to give arms to everybody. The root of the problem is of a different nature and it has to be addressed in order to solve it. Otherwise, I recommend you leave the country and come to live in Spain as soon as you can.
Honestly, if I had to carry an arm myself because of just sheer insecurity, I would leave the country, whether S.A. or U.S.A. or any other one…
Lots of love to my dearest family in S.A. Your uncle Eduardo

Bruce Atkins
Bruce Atkins

I believe the criminal should be punished, not the gun.I think the law should be focused on punishing the person, and the legal gun owner shouldn't be the one getting punished.Yes we should never change the second amendment, it was placed there to protect us from domestic control, like they had in the other countries at that time.If they take one fredom, what's to stop them from taking all freedom.

Angel Boyce
Angel Boyce
  • Bruce Atkins

i know of a guy named michael spillers that just got out of prison for i believe it was bank robery and just got arested for stealing the fire chiefs car and found a stolen gun with his fingerprints on it and crashed into a porch in S.E. Portland last week is already free. the problem is they let criminals go without punishment and complain about the rise in crime. look it up, true store

Bruce Atkins
Bruce Atkins
  • Bruce Atkins

Punish the criminal,the gun cant jump up and do the crime by its self.DUH!

BC La Plante
BC La Plante

I do not want to live in a country where the only people who have guns are criminals. The second Amendment isn't about me being able to own a gun for sport or hunting, it is about being armed and able to defend myself against a Totalitarian Government, when and if it becomes necessary.

Goldie Holzer
Goldie Holzer
  • BC La Plante

And it feels closer and closer all the time

Dayadhar Sharma
Dayadhar Sharma

Guns should not be allowed to be possessed by any one other than Armed forces and Police force and should be allowed to be used only at the time of acute emergency under the orders of competent authority.No arms License should be issued to any one other than the said categories.The existing licenses of civilians should be revoked and arms deposited with Govt Magazines.Extensive searches to be made to find the hidden arms.There should be a total ban on the display of any private arms.In case...

Guns should not be allowed to be possessed by any one other than Armed forces and Police force and should be allowed to be used only at the time of acute emergency under the orders of competent authority.No arms License should be issued to any one other than the said categories.The existing licenses of civilians should be revoked and arms deposited with Govt Magazines.Extensive searches to be made to find the hidden arms.There should be a total ban on the display of any private arms.In case of threat to the life or property of any individuals the govt should provide security to such person may be at a cost.As it is with one or more arms in possession do not Guarantee one the total security because the attackers may be equipped more strongly than the license arm holder.As many arms out side that much fear for loss of lives.Any maverick with a small fire arms can kill any numbers of humans.Protect human Life withdraw arms licenses and provide security to the citizens is the only way out.

Goldie Holzer
Goldie Holzer
  • Dayadhar Sharma

Are you absolutely psycho! Stay the hell out of our country! Keep your wacko ideas in your country. You are describing government overtaking the populace! WE have protections against illegal search and seizure. OBviously, you do not know our laws. Stay there. We don't want you or your wacky ideas here.

Dayadhar Sharma
Dayadhar Sharma
  • Dayadhar Sharma

Goldie Holzer You are reacting after 7days from the day my write -up was posted. However tell me in your country what about the rights of those who are killed? Dont they have right to live or it is that they can be killed by any maverick like you?. You have a right when you do a duty and that duty is to abide by the law of land. Law provides that only those sentenced for punishment by law courts, can be killed, shot or hanged.Is there any law for the protection of the society or it's...

Goldie Holzer You are reacting after 7days from the day my write -up was posted. However tell me in your country what about the rights of those who are killed? Dont they have right to live or it is that they can be killed by any maverick like you?. You have a right when you do a duty and that duty is to abide by the law of land. Law provides that only those sentenced for punishment by law courts, can be killed, shot or hanged.Is there any law for the protection of the society or it's members in your country?.
Under the guise of the so called existing protection against search & seizure, should anti-social elements be allowed to possess arms and innocent people be killed? My dear Goldie you are terming me Psycho but I find you are a bigger psycho who can not tolerate any restriction on your rights may be it is for your protection. And Goldie you note that one similar psycho who carried out the referred killings will come and finish you in the manner the referred people were killed. One doesnt get the taste of violence unless he himself suffers or his kith & kin fall victim to it.But by that time it is quite late and there is no way but to repent Dear Goldie Holzer!.Otherwise hell with you and your psycho people.

Henry Dyck
Henry Dyck

You guys are delusional if you think this is just a random act of violence 100000 people are shot by guns in the US every year ONE HUNDRED THOUGAND! Last year 31593 succumbed to those gun wounds and died. By comparison 43000 americans have died in Iraq since the beginning of the war. In that same time period Americans have killed almost 300000 americansl with guns. You guys don't need to worry about terrorists anymore your much more efficient at wiping each other out then Al Qaeda ever was.

Tina M Peters
Tina M Peters
  • Henry Dyck

It's such a coincidence that you posted this, as I was just having a conversation with Mom about Americans and their guns earlier today!

Henry Dyck
Henry Dyck
  • Henry Dyck

The sad thing is I think if the gov took their guns away they'd just kill each other with hammers or something Americans just like to kill each other I guess. No where in the world do you see numbers like this. There are countries that are at civil war with less violence

Steve Mathis
Steve Mathis

And yes i do carry a 9mm and a 380 can't for git a stun gun also

Jennifer Jett-Mathis
Jennifer Jett-Mathis
  • Steve Mathis

No hes not be nice weasel. He can kick ass if he wanted to.

Jennifer Jett-Mathis
Jennifer Jett-Mathis
  • Steve Mathis

And last time I looked hes all dick lol

Rodney Adams
Rodney Adams

hmm if you keep raising laws about guns and guns this guns that what good does it relay do the guns are not the problem a gun is a machine or a mechanism that will not do anything without the person holding it and giving it the energy to become alive now that being said restricting things is just like restricting alcohol in the old days it will still happen illegally if it must and 90% of the times the guns doing the damage were bought under the counter and illegal so if you place the death...

hmm if you keep raising laws about guns and guns this guns that what good does it relay do the guns are not the problem a gun is a machine or a mechanism that will not do anything without the person holding it and giving it the energy to become alive now that being said restricting things is just like restricting alcohol in the old days it will still happen illegally if it must and 90% of the times the guns doing the damage were bought under the counter and illegal so if you place the death penalty on anyone caught killing another with a gun or anyone who sold a gun to someone who killed someone illegally sold the gun by the way then I'm sure it will bring most of this to a screeching halt and for all of you that believe these people have mental health issues hmm maybe they do but an eye for an eye you kill some one you get killed because now days someone does something wrong they get in front of a judge and clame mental instability and poof they are home free I'm going to try that next time I get a speeding ticket and tell the cop I was temporarily insane and he cant right the ticket because I was in a hurry to get to my doctor to address the issue so doing what you will to guns fixes nothing just makes them easier to get in my opinion because more people will sell them under the counter why don't you do something and take care of the flawed money corrupt legal system we have now and fix that first.

Rodney Adams
Rodney Adams
  • Rodney Adams

why thank you English teacher. :P

Rodney Adams
Rodney Adams
  • Rodney Adams

when im wrighting on here unless im coding a website where i have to separate every description by a comma i dont use any form of period comma well none of that if you cant use your mind and figure where the sentence ends then to hell with it

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