Barbara Ruth Castro Castillo

Whatever the lifestyle and purpose of an individual they should be treated as a person and if they break the law they should be punished according to the law I think if someone thru a rock at me and I killed them dead I would suffer the consequences to those actions and sooooo should the police murderers!

John Patrick Mullan
John Patrick Mullan
  • Barbara Ruth Castro Castillo

Sorry Barbara you would get cleared by reason of self defence

Crystal Lena
Crystal Lena
  • Barbara Ruth Castro Castillo

John Patrick Mullan Sorry Officer Mullan, but I have personally witnessed a woman go to prison who in the commission of a rape stabbed her attacker once to get away, killing him without meaning to, and got LIFE - she did not get self defense and get off. A rock vs a gun - OVERKILL. A taser is more than effective and police officers are trained in other methods of restraint. Why not use that training instead of fire first and ask questions later?

John Patrick Mullan
John Patrick Mullan
  • Barbara Ruth Castro Castillo

Crystal Lena Crystal I would like to hear about this case. Life would mean she was convicted of murder 1, premeditated murder. My guess is that after the rape she stabbed the guy. Am I right? If during the rape she stabbed she would most likely not have even been charged. So there is more to the story I am sure. So please share and I will explain what you saw. As for the use of force or what is called the force continuum, Rock Vs Gun in fact is not overkill. Whenever an officer is faced...

Crystal Lena Crystal I would like to hear about this case. Life would mean she was convicted of murder 1, premeditated murder. My guess is that after the rape she stabbed the guy. Am I right? If during the rape she stabbed she would most likely not have even been charged. So there is more to the story I am sure. So please share and I will explain what you saw. As for the use of force or what is called the force continuum, Rock Vs Gun in fact is not overkill. Whenever an officer is faced with resistance / attack he is allowed to go one step above the resistance / attack to control the suspect. It is called reasonable force necessary. So if you are resisting physically I can use open hand controls, fist, mace / pepper spray baton. If you escalate to a weapon I have the right to go to my gun. Sorry this is what happens when you bring a rock to a gun fight. My issue with the whole case is they are attempting to make it about race. The numbers say that the city is a majority minority city, so naturally any interaction with the police will be mostly with minorities. Not to mention the fact that the crime stats nationwide show that minorities commit more crimes than non-minorities.

Abel Sanchez
Abel Sanchez
  • Barbara Ruth Castro Castillo

John Patrick Mullan another good question is, Why don't they have there own people serving there own community then, right? If you know what I mean. I'm 75% with you but,there is a lot missing. Well let that same communities people become cops and police your area.

John Patrick Mullan
John Patrick Mullan
  • Barbara Ruth Castro Castillo

Abel Sanchez How about this Abel you test to get the job and the test is colour blind. The top scores are the ones that get hired. Now some states have consent deegres that force hieing of minorities over people with higher scores. Yup my state was one of them. And this is how that works you tell me if it's fair. I started taking the test in 1978 took it every 2 years until 1991 never scored below a 98. I was a cop in the military SWAT TEAM member trained by the FBI and I went to 2nd...

Abel Sanchez How about this Abel you test to get the job and the test is colour blind. The top scores are the ones that get hired. Now some states have consent deegres that force hieing of minorities over people with higher scores. Yup my state was one of them. And this is how that works you tell me if it's fair. I started taking the test in 1978 took it every 2 years until 1991 never scored below a 98. I was a cop in the military SWAT TEAM member trained by the FBI and I went to 2nd level RANGER school, yet I never got hired. I filed a suit and 2 years later me and 60 others who filed got on. So at 37 I go into the police academy and come out 3rd in academics and 2nd in physical training. I now work beside the guys I was by passed for and they all got 70s on the test.They are getting ready to retire with full pensions and me well I get to go another ten years and because of the time I will have on at 65 I will get 70% of my pension. Oh and did I mention these cops I work with that I was bypassed for won't make a pimple on a real cops ass, they have done nothing in the 30 years they have been on the job. Now I know what you are going to say. They had to get the minorities in. I say BULL$HIT they should be held to the same standards just like in the military. But since I know most wont agree with me because it is not P C, let me ask this. If you where going into have brain surgery who would you want doing it, #1 Guy who graduated top of his class Harvard Medical School and got there by his hard work and academics. Or # 2 the guy who graduated last in his class and was given a full boat because he was given preferential treatment. And lets just throw into the mix #1 is black and #2 is a women and we will keep those evil white people out of it, And keep this in mind because I know you are going to say apples and oranges. A Police Officer is the only job in the country where you can take a life without a trial. I would say that's a mighty heavy responsibility so you better know the law and how it is applied. I also don't know what the make up is of the department, but most CA department require a 2 year degree

Philip Guglielmelli
Philip Guglielmelli
  • Barbara Ruth Castro Castillo

Besides, you can't throw things at the cop's.I don't care if you like em or not.and if you do there will be guy's like me who will put a boot in your ass. Truth is we owe them (cop's) a lot more respect then their getting. I can say that even though I disagree now and then.let the record reflect

Vince Wike
Vince Wike
  • Barbara Ruth Castro Castillo

being a cop is a hard job, i wish you would get that. imagine you are given the job of protecting civilans from harm, and some dirt bag wont listen to your commands to stop throwing rocks or to simply disperse. at some point you either give up your job annd fail the citizens or you buck up and do what has to be done

Vince Wike
Vince Wike
  • Barbara Ruth Castro Castillo

YOU are missing some facts there Crystal. no one went to prison in the way you stated. there was more to that story..............much more

Valerie Harrell
Valerie Harrell

These were known gang members! It is disgusting how some are supporting these gang criminals with this petition! I refuse to sign!

Abel Sanchez
Abel Sanchez
  • Valerie Harrell

How do you know if they really were because of the area they were shot in? Because someone made a mistake and killed them and now lie's about there mistake. Supporting human life is like this . Next time please don't take the time to leave an opinion. It made me sick to be apart of this thing called humanity.

Erony Michelle-Haydee Trapp
Erony Michelle-Haydee Trapp
  • Valerie Harrell

Dear Valerie: I, ALSO DON'T LIKE GANGS, BUT the police has no right to execute anyone in the streets.
A suspect, has to be captured, by COPS WITH HABILITY AND KNOWLEDGE, well trained on HOW to perform that job.
On the other hand, they (the cops) may be trying to capture and arrest the wrong man. That is WHY THERE ARE COURTS of justice, in this land.

Cops, just counting in their uniform, badge and weapons, cannot determine anyone is a criminal, killing the person.
Cannot execute any human being, in the streets. Period !

Erony Michelle-Haydee Trapp
Erony Michelle-Haydee Trapp
  • Valerie Harrell

Reylan Berding Dear Mr. Reylan Berding: I agree with you, in every word ! Also, I am delighted and astonished by your brief, yet, so clear statement.
To me, that lady needs help. I totally agree with you: Hatred! Rage!
This is disgusting . . . It is so sad . . .

All the best, dear friend.

Erony Michelle-Haydee Trapp
Erony Michelle-Haydee Trapp
  • Valerie Harrell

Dear Valerie: Please, I need to emphasise what Reylan Berding said: No one here, is signing petition to condemn anybody, but: TO BE CONDUCTED AN INVESTIGATION. Only an investigation !

Please, seat down and think. If you cannot understand this, please, look for professional help.

All the best to you,

Peace.

Valerie Harrell
Valerie Harrell
  • Valerie Harrell

Erony Michelle Haydee Trapp I see you are from Brazil...Hmmmm.....enough said.

Philip Guglielmelli
Philip Guglielmelli
  • Valerie Harrell

People we all need to remember.You can not undermine the authority .We all have to understand it's not just about you or me .We are a nation .We are proud and we are not perfect.Those who serve in law and enforcement put their lives on the line everyday.They have been given the authority to up hold the law to serve and protect.Each and every officer has to make a decision.Even if we agree or disagree..You can not undermine authority that would lead us into chaos.Please respect are flag the...

People we all need to remember.You can not undermine the authority .We all have to understand it's not just about you or me .We are a nation .We are proud and we are not perfect.Those who serve in law and enforcement put their lives on the line everyday.They have been given the authority to up hold the law to serve and protect.Each and every officer has to make a decision.Even if we agree or disagree..You can not undermine authority that would lead us into chaos.Please respect are flag the star the car and the officer(even if he or she is an ass hole) don't alienate them or undermine their authority.That is not the answer.We can make it God Willing ~~~" I had a Dream" ~~~ Makes me proud

Nancy Strickland Baker

Perhaps a solution is for these guys to get a job and quit hanging on the street and breaking the law. Liberals are all up in this until something happens to them or their family. Then the Police can't do enough! Hypocrital, wouldn't you say?

Suzi Kressler
Suzi Kressler
  • Nancy Strickland Baker

I'm confused. Are you saying that once a person is shot in the back & is down (unable to hurt anyone) he should then be shot again in the head? I'm not sure what this has to do with political views. I missed where Manuel was breaking the law at the time unless visiting with friends on a street is illegal there. Or is it illegal if you're Latino.

Lawrence Richard Chiu
Lawrence Richard Chiu
  • Nancy Strickland Baker

Suzi Kressler, We don't know the full story nor were we there, so we can't make any judgement. A story can always be made up easily.

Karthik Ram
Karthik Ram
  • Nancy Strickland Baker

@Lawrence: Thats True and it applies to Nancy as well. I totally disagree with Nancy !! Getting a job is not as easy as it is being said..Hanging out with people in the streets is nobodies business as long as they are not a threat to any1.. Shooting without warnings/investigating facts IS a CRIME..loafing in the streets is NOT.. Racist people need to be taught a lesson using the same laws that they take advantage of..

Vince Wike
Vince Wike
  • Nancy Strickland Baker

you heard very wrong.....thats,not,not what happened

James Volant
James Volant

Hey, don't run from the Police, get a job and try to respect authority and others.

Abel Sanchez
Abel Sanchez
  • James Volant

You know I didn't comment on this one because it was ignorant. Both of you. We know something about this kid, and the police officer. But what about you? I really hope you don't go to church, because I can't see myself being a christian along side you. I don't look like you so you'd expect someone like me to say that, right? But, I'm human. Aren't you? Oh, not the same kind of human now I see. Ok. So you are the same kind of human. Do you live in the same area. No, you wouldn't be caught...

You know I didn't comment on this one because it was ignorant. Both of you. We know something about this kid, and the police officer. But what about you? I really hope you don't go to church, because I can't see myself being a christian along side you. I don't look like you so you'd expect someone like me to say that, right? But, I'm human. Aren't you? Oh, not the same kind of human now I see. Ok. So you are the same kind of human. Do you live in the same area. No, you wouldn't be caught dead there. So what. Ok. so you do live in the same area, come outside and smell the fresh air then. Your countries going to shit. Because our freedoms and liberties are being stripped form us! Cops are shooting unarmed people and abusing their authority! Oh your scared. Figures, you made this country the way it is. It's not a day old you know.

Fred Lakin
Fred Lakin
  • James Volant

I must assume you are not from this country because you refer to my country as if you only live here and aren't responsible for what is happening. Yes even though you are but a teenager you share this responsibility are maybe you are part of the problem and breaking the law as an illegal Immigrant. If this is the problem and you think our system of government is bad you should return wince you came and take the gang members with you. Yes we have problems but they tend to right their selves...

I must assume you are not from this country because you refer to my country as if you only live here and aren't responsible for what is happening. Yes even though you are but a teenager you share this responsibility are maybe you are part of the problem and breaking the law as an illegal Immigrant. If this is the problem and you think our system of government is bad you should return wince you came and take the gang members with you. Yes we have problems but they tend to right their selves with time I don't know the whole story but everyone need to stop and take a breath and see everyone part in this fiasco. Gangs are not the way to go and have no place in our society they only breed lawlessness and only pray on the weak in our society. So think about how you refer to people and watch what side you take in any situation. Keep in mind are you a American or a Mexican where are your loyalties.

Charlie Sphericle
Charlie Sphericle
  • James Volant

Some gangs aren't even violent. Some cops don't even do good for their community. It's not the gangs or the cops that's the problem, it's the person behind each one of those sides... I'm completely neutral, just trying to prove a point here... I know gang members that are very nice people and I know cops who are very bad people... very opposite perspectives than expected by the public. I don't advocate being a gang member or a cop. Don't be either. Just do good things and good things will happen. If not, well... keep trying.

Charlie Sphericle
Charlie Sphericle
  • James Volant

There's pros and cons to everything on this planet.

Charlie Sphericle
Charlie Sphericle
  • James Volant

And for the record, I'm not a gang member or a cop. Just some guy giving public insight to things most people avoid... don't fear the unknown.

Siemon J. Franken Garzon

'injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere'-M.L.King, Jr.

John Mellon
John Mellon

they have a Green Light to kill! License to murder..

Jamie L Trinkkeller
Jamie L Trinkkeller

Anahiem and fullerton are very close and the police are extremly violent, remember the guy they beat so badly in Fullerton, a white homeless man a sheriffs son and they litterally beat him to death, race or gang members doesn't matter they will be violent with anyone. I hate California I left and will never return thank God.

Gideon Uzoho
Gideon Uzoho

The solution is for this guys 2 get a job & quit hanging on d street & breaking law.liberals ar all up in ds untill something happens 2 their family. Then d police can't do enough hypocritcal, wouldn't u say?

Gideon Uzoho
Gideon Uzoho

The law breakers should be brought to book neither public servants nor civillians.

Jennifer Henry
Jennifer Henry

Justic is blind so it looks like this a man with a criminal background was aproached by officers who after an argument, opened fire and killed an UNARMED man! Why are so many people still frickin racist? Ive been abused by police and im not hispanic, grow up people

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