Whatever the lifestyle and purpose of an individual they should be treated as a person and if they break the law they should be punished according to the law I think if someone thru a rock at me and I killed them dead I would suffer the consequences to those actions and sooooo should the police murderers!
Sorry Barbara you would get cleared by reason of self defence
John Patrick Mullan Sorry Officer Mullan, but I have personally witnessed a woman go to prison who in the commission of a rape stabbed her attacker once to get away, killing him without meaning to, and got LIFE - she did not get self defense and get off. A rock vs a gun - OVERKILL. A taser is more than effective and police officers are trained in other methods of restraint. Why not use that training instead of fire first and ask questions later?
Crystal Lena Crystal I would like to hear about this case. Life would mean she was convicted of murder 1, premeditated murder. My guess is that after the rape she stabbed the guy. Am I right? If during the rape she stabbed she would most likely not have even been charged. So there is more to the story I am sure. So please share and I will explain what you saw. As for the use of force or what is called the force continuum, Rock Vs Gun in fact is not overkill. Whenever an officer is faced...
Crystal Lena Crystal I would like to hear about this case. Life would mean she was convicted of murder 1, premeditated murder. My guess is that after the rape she stabbed the guy. Am I right? If during the rape she stabbed she would most likely not have even been charged. So there is more to the story I am sure. So please share and I will explain what you saw. As for the use of force or what is called the force continuum, Rock Vs Gun in fact is not overkill. Whenever an officer is faced with resistance / attack he is allowed to go one step above the resistance / attack to control the suspect. It is called reasonable force necessary. So if you are resisting physically I can use open hand controls, fist, mace / pepper spray baton. If you escalate to a weapon I have the right to go to my gun. Sorry this is what happens when you bring a rock to a gun fight. My issue with the whole case is they are attempting to make it about race. The numbers say that the city is a majority minority city, so naturally any interaction with the police will be mostly with minorities. Not to mention the fact that the crime stats nationwide show that minorities commit more crimes than non-minorities.
John Patrick Mullan another good question is, Why don't they have there own people serving there own community then, right? If you know what I mean. I'm 75% with you but,there is a lot missing. Well let that same communities people become cops and police your area.
Abel Sanchez How about this Abel you test to get the job and the test is colour blind. The top scores are the ones that get hired. Now some states have consent deegres that force hieing of minorities over people with higher scores. Yup my state was one of them. And this is how that works you tell me if it's fair. I started taking the test in 1978 took it every 2 years until 1991 never scored below a 98. I was a cop in the military SWAT TEAM member trained by the FBI and I went to 2nd...
Abel Sanchez How about this Abel you test to get the job and the test is colour blind. The top scores are the ones that get hired. Now some states have consent deegres that force hieing of minorities over people with higher scores. Yup my state was one of them. And this is how that works you tell me if it's fair. I started taking the test in 1978 took it every 2 years until 1991 never scored below a 98. I was a cop in the military SWAT TEAM member trained by the FBI and I went to 2nd level RANGER school, yet I never got hired. I filed a suit and 2 years later me and 60 others who filed got on. So at 37 I go into the police academy and come out 3rd in academics and 2nd in physical training. I now work beside the guys I was by passed for and they all got 70s on the test.They are getting ready to retire with full pensions and me well I get to go another ten years and because of the time I will have on at 65 I will get 70% of my pension. Oh and did I mention these cops I work with that I was bypassed for won't make a pimple on a real cops ass, they have done nothing in the 30 years they have been on the job. Now I know what you are going to say. They had to get the minorities in. I say BULL$HIT they should be held to the same standards just like in the military. But since I know most wont agree with me because it is not P C, let me ask this. If you where going into have brain surgery who would you want doing it, #1 Guy who graduated top of his class Harvard Medical School and got there by his hard work and academics. Or # 2 the guy who graduated last in his class and was given a full boat because he was given preferential treatment. And lets just throw into the mix #1 is black and #2 is a women and we will keep those evil white people out of it, And keep this in mind because I know you are going to say apples and oranges. A Police Officer is the only job in the country where you can take a life without a trial. I would say that's a mighty heavy responsibility so you better know the law and how it is applied. I also don't know what the make up is of the department, but most CA department require a 2 year degree
Besides, you can't throw things at the cop's.I don't care if you like em or not.and if you do there will be guy's like me who will put a boot in your ass. Truth is we owe them (cop's) a lot more respect then their getting. I can say that even though I disagree now and then.let the record reflect
being a cop is a hard job, i wish you would get that. imagine you are given the job of protecting civilans from harm, and some dirt bag wont listen to your commands to stop throwing rocks or to simply disperse. at some point you either give up your job annd fail the citizens or you buck up and do what has to be done
YOU are missing some facts there Crystal. no one went to prison in the way you stated. there was more to that story..............much more
These were known gang members! It is disgusting how some are supporting these gang criminals with this petition! I refuse to sign!
How do you know if they really were because of the area they were shot in? Because someone made a mistake and killed them and now lie's about there mistake. Supporting human life is like this . Next time please don't take the time to leave an opinion. It made me sick to be apart of this thing called humanity.
Dear Valerie: I, ALSO DON'T LIKE GANGS, BUT the police has no right to execute anyone in the streets.
A suspect, has to be captured, by COPS WITH HABILITY AND KNOWLEDGE, well trained on HOW to perform that job.
On the other hand, they (the cops) may be trying to capture and arrest the wrong man. That is WHY THERE ARE COURTS of justice, in this land.
Cops, just counting in their uniform, badge and weapons, cannot determine anyone is a criminal, killing the person.
Cannot execute any human being, in the streets. Period !
Reylan Berding Dear Mr. Reylan Berding: I agree with you, in every word ! Also, I am delighted and astonished by your brief, yet, so clear statement.
To me, that lady needs help. I totally agree with you: Hatred! Rage!
This is disgusting . . . It is so sad . . .
All the best, dear friend.
Dear Valerie: Please, I need to emphasise what Reylan Berding said: No one here, is signing petition to condemn anybody, but: TO BE CONDUCTED AN INVESTIGATION. Only an investigation !
Please, seat down and think. If you cannot understand this, please, look for professional help.
All the best to you,
Erony Michelle Haydee Trapp I see you are from Brazil...Hmmmm.....enough said.
Erony Michelle Haydee Trapp http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/10/anaheim-gang-crackdown-do_n_1765636.html
People we all need to remember.You can not undermine the authority .We all have to understand it's not just about you or me .We are a nation .We are proud and we are not perfect.Those who serve in law and enforcement put their lives on the line everyday.They have been given the authority to up hold the law to serve and protect.Each and every officer has to make a decision.Even if we agree or disagree..You can not undermine authority that would lead us into chaos.Please respect are flag the...
People we all need to remember.You can not undermine the authority .We all have to understand it's not just about you or me .We are a nation .We are proud and we are not perfect.Those who serve in law and enforcement put their lives on the line everyday.They have been given the authority to up hold the law to serve and protect.Each and every officer has to make a decision.Even if we agree or disagree..You can not undermine authority that would lead us into chaos.Please respect are flag the star the car and the officer(even if he or she is an ass hole) don't alienate them or undermine their authority.That is not the answer.We can make it God Willing ~~~" I had a Dream" ~~~ Makes me proud
Does anyone see all the crap that the police officers have to go through with the latino population? How about the offenses caused by the latinos? Where are those concerned citizens when the police are fired upon for doing their jobs? I would also be fed up with all the PC crap being shoved down my throat by the supposed majority/minority latinos! Hooray for the police!
So you like population control? Maybe they start on your side of town keep moving north. I hear there aren't any minorities in Antarctica. Bigot.
Who the hell cares about latinos. As long as they have a job and contribute like the rest of us!
The same can be said about you and the illegals here....thanks to the moron in the white house..
My opinion for what it is worth. First we do not have the full story. The Lame Stream Media will never give it to us. Lame is not a mistake...Second I have lived in areas where Mexicans have dominated - My house was robbed - my school age girls were beaten up -my boys were constantly bullied and threatened in and out of school - I was threatened - my car was stolen etc., etc.I'm not saying all are bad but more than a lot are really nasty.Third I almost hate the police because it seems to...
My opinion for what it is worth. First we do not have the full story. The Lame Stream Media will never give it to us. Lame is not a mistake...Second I have lived in areas where Mexicans have dominated - My house was robbed - my school age girls were beaten up -my boys were constantly bullied and threatened in and out of school - I was threatened - my car was stolen etc., etc.I'm not saying all are bad but more than a lot are really nasty.Third I almost hate the police because it seems to me that because they are police a lot of them think they have a license to kill. All police should have mental evaluations to prove they are not bias or bullies except to defend the public and rightful laws that protect citizens. P.S. I am not prejudiced I have a part Mexican and Apache granddaughter, a Filipino husband, half French nieces, half German Grandchildren... like United Nations. We don't know what happened. I can only agree to one wrong. You don't shoot a person in the back and then shoot him in the head except to murder. That was wrong and the only information that I gleamed out of this whole mess, but for sure radicals on either side are going to take advantage of this situation.
All of us are from other countries, except Native Indians' we all are desendents from other countries
america has always had a problem with illegals just ask any ndn.....bigots...
Anahiem and fullerton are very close and the police are extremly violent, remember the guy they beat so badly in Fullerton, a white homeless man a sheriffs son and they litterally beat him to death, race or gang members doesn't matter they will be violent with anyone. I hate California I left and will never return thank God.
The solution is for this guys 2 get a job & quit hanging on d street & breaking law.liberals ar all up in ds untill something happens 2 their family. Then d police can't do enough hypocritcal, wouldn't u say?
The law breakers should be brought to book neither public servants nor civillians.
Justic is blind so it looks like this a man with a criminal background was aproached by officers who after an argument, opened fire and killed an UNARMED man! Why are so many people still frickin racist? Ive been abused by police and im not hispanic, grow up people
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POLICE MEANS TO SAVE THE PEOPLE, NOT TO KILL.
Please sign! Theresa Smith and the Anaheim Cruzaders have been protesting against the Anaheim PD every week for almost 3 years since the killing of her son Caesar Cruz. Her son was unarmed and was shot to death in his vehicle in a Wal Mart parking lot. The recent shootings just demonstrate what she has been saying all along. The Anaheim PD uses excessive force when dealing with both innocent people and suspects. I realize that there are many who have sided with the police department because...
Please sign! Theresa Smith and the Anaheim Cruzaders have been protesting against the Anaheim PD every week for almost 3 years since the killing of her son Caesar Cruz. Her son was unarmed and was shot to death in his vehicle in a Wal Mart parking lot. The recent shootings just demonstrate what she has been saying all along. The Anaheim PD uses excessive force when dealing with both innocent people and suspects. I realize that there are many who have sided with the police department because they say the last two men were gang members, but whether they were or not, police policy and procedure should be executed consistently and judiciously. Every man deserves his day in court. Our constitution ensures this, however, local police departments are serving as executioners, especially when dealing with certain populations: black, Latino, and any one who is of the working class and/or impoverished communities. Please sign and support the cause! My name is Lima from the Nida's Rydas, we are the family, friends, and supporters of Michael Nida, an unarmed innocent man who was shot and killed by the Downey PD. We need to work together to fight against these injustices!