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Joan Conlee
Joan Conlee

This law sucks so they r saying just because he (says) self defence he has the right to kill someones child! Well my daughter was killed in Feburary and I know how this family feels He should be behind bars and this law needs to be gone it wasnt in self defence He was a coward.

Jessie Rawlins
Jessie Rawlins
  • Joan Conlee

If your daughter had been carrying a gun and knew how to use it would she be dead?

Lane Lombardia
Lane Lombardia
  • Joan Conlee

les reed You think it is the "norm"? Are you referring to law abiding citizens or criminals? What statistics have you been reading? With regard to getting rid of drugs, how many people are already in prison or dead over the "War on Drugs"? Do you see any credible evidence that the brute force method being employed is working or is even workable? How, exactly, would you propose to "get rid of" drugs?

Joy Adams
Joy Adams
  • Joan Conlee

And you know this how? Were you there? He is somebody's child too!

Roy Rodriguez
Roy Rodriguez
  • Joan Conlee

les reed wow now you said something worth while

Ted Perry
Ted Perry
  • Joan Conlee

some where that drug dealer has gave someone a drug somewhere that has o d ed so there for he s committed a murder treat them as so no life in prison thats to easy we pay for it if you re not infringing on other s why whine and cry if you mind you re own bussiness then you wont get shot

Ted Perry
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  • Joan Conlee

Lane Lombardia i do bang

Sheryl Koroleski
Sheryl Koroleski
  • Joan Conlee

Jessie Rawlins ,I agree with you.I had some trouble once & I told the bugger I had two friends he could meet,smith& wesson.I wasn't sfraid to shoot a pretty deer & if he came through my door as he said he would I'd have no problem pulling the trigger.I believe,the facts need to speak for themselves.You should be able to defend yourself& stand up for your rights & if someone has it in for you ;no matter what color or religion,they will try to harm you.If you make it known that you will not...

Jessie Rawlins ,I agree with you.I had some trouble once & I told the bugger I had two friends he could meet,smith& wesson.I wasn't sfraid to shoot a pretty deer & if he came through my door as he said he would I'd have no problem pulling the trigger.I believe,the facts need to speak for themselves.You should be able to defend yourself& stand up for your rights & if someone has it in for you ;no matter what color or religion,they will try to harm you.If you make it known that you will not stand up & not be a door mat;I believe criminals would think twice about committing a crime.

Jessie Rawlins
Jessie Rawlins
  • Joan Conlee

les reed http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/local/sun_coast/soldier-stops-bank-robbery-suspect-05312011
All it takes is one person who knows what they are doing to stop a criminal. As long as law abiding citizens out number the criminals I say arm them.

Sylvia Reddock
Sylvia Reddock
  • Joan Conlee

Jessie Rawlins Toe Tally Agree

Lucy Colon
Lucy Colon

Stand your ground needs to be repealed yesterday if not sooner. Unfortunately it's too late for Travon. Zimmerman should be arrested and tried. He should never have been allowed to leave the police station wearing his clothes which could have had damning evidence against him. Let us not let Travon's death be in vain. His father was an ex judge in our judicial system. No wonder he's getting away with MURDER. It's about time MURDERERS got what they gave in return.

Tina Thompson
Tina Thompson
  • Lucy Colon

Thank you lucy for the post.

Roy Rodriguez
Roy Rodriguez
  • Lucy Colon

yes on the clothes because it could of helped him also, it works both ways girl.. bad police work for sure... there should of been photos of the head wounds on zimmerman if there was any, x-rays, all the csi that we come to think is done every time something like this happens ,to find out the real story....

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  • Lucy Colon

Lucy Colon: shalom and respect!!

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  • Lucy Colon

roy rodriguez..yes roy and possibly the injuries were inflicted when treyvon headbutted zimmermon in self defense while trying to free himself while being sat on facefirst by zimmermon..right before he shot him! Head butting might b a typical response for a teenager or anyone else in that position i would think!!

Harold Rosenthal
Harold Rosenthal

Since Zimmerman admits following Trayvon, if the kid had a gun, he could have killed Zimmerman under the same law.

Lane Lombardia
Lane Lombardia
  • Harold Rosenthal

Actually, Mr. Zimmerman apparently only fired his weapon after being knocked to the ground, mounted, and pummeled into the ground. Now if Mr. Martin had, instead of attacking Mr. Zimmerman with his fists, shot Mr. Zimmerman as you suggest, that would have been murder; but shooting someone who is beating you to the brink of unconsciousness is not murder; but it is also not an application of Stand Your Ground as it is not possible to retreat from someone who has knocked you to the ground,...

Actually, Mr. Zimmerman apparently only fired his weapon after being knocked to the ground, mounted, and pummeled into the ground. Now if Mr. Martin had, instead of attacking Mr. Zimmerman with his fists, shot Mr. Zimmerman as you suggest, that would have been murder; but shooting someone who is beating you to the brink of unconsciousness is not murder; but it is also not an application of Stand Your Ground as it is not possible to retreat from someone who has knocked you to the ground, pinned you by mounting you, and is pummeling your head with their fists (both medically documented and supported by eyewitness).

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  • Harold Rosenthal

I still think Zimmermon has u fooled!! Come on Lane..Read and ResearcH!!!

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  • Harold Rosenthal

O my word..again for third time i notice Mr.Lombardio has removed his previous statement..thank you once again.

Henrietta Fartzberg
Henrietta Fartzberg
  • Harold Rosenthal

lane, your statement is what the police observed when they arrived on the scene, properly evaluating the situation, then our treasonist president made the comment about treyvor could have been his son, we may be missing some pieces of the puzzle here, did anyoe perform DNA tests between obama and treyvor ? I seriously doubt obama would submitt to DNA testing for any reason other than criminal

George Pope
George Pope

Travvon was talking to a girl when attacking not attacking anybody! No time for breaking stupid Zimmerman's nose. What's wrong with Florida government? Why cant they get rid of this Stand Your ground thing?

Don Bowles III
Don Bowles III
  • George Pope

Just think George, get rid of Stand Your Ground and then you have cower in fear. Which is better? Criminals do NOT care about the law...that's why they are criminals and they will also stop at nothing to make you fear them. This law, when applied correctly, allows citizens to defend themselves, not kill at will.

Lane Lombardia
Lane Lombardia
  • George Pope

An eyewitness saw Trayvon Martin on top of and pummeling George Zimmerman and reported that to a 911 dispatcher. How do you reckon there was no time when the assault was seen and documented?

Robert Bradford
Robert Bradford
  • George Pope

Lane Lombardia There was also a witness that states the opposite of what that witness said in the first place... smh I think the courts should be the judge

Lane Lombardia
Lane Lombardia
  • George Pope

Robert Bradford I am waiting for the court to decide; but George Pope asserts as a fact what both eyewitnesses contradict. Trayvon was not on the phone at the time of the altercation.

Thor Kuniholm
Thor Kuniholm

The easy availability of weapons in the U.S. certainly contributes to the high rate of murders, especially in the urban areas--witness the efforts of big city mayors to control their use. The Second Amendment to the Constitution was passed at a time when the federal government had no standing army, thus, stipulating the "right of the people to keep and bear Arms..." to provide for the defense of the country. This situation no longer applies and therefore stricter gun laws should be passed...

The easy availability of weapons in the U.S. certainly contributes to the high rate of murders, especially in the urban areas--witness the efforts of big city mayors to control their use. The Second Amendment to the Constitution was passed at a time when the federal government had no standing army, thus, stipulating the "right of the people to keep and bear Arms..." to provide for the defense of the country. This situation no longer applies and therefore stricter gun laws should be passed to reduce the incidence of violence in this country. In my opinion, "stand your ground" laws should apply only to one's home or business.

Glenn Vincent Stearns
Glenn Vincent Stearns
  • Thor Kuniholm

I almost agree with you sir. I believe stand your ground is to protect your life and the lives of other innocents from those who would do harm, and you fear for your and/or their lives. Businesses and houses can be replaced, but to avoid a home invasion situation I think the use of a firearm is quite a good solution.

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  • Thor Kuniholm

Thor Kuniholm...Respect for ur Wisdom sir.

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  • Thor Kuniholm

Sir..wisely stated..i applaud u..unlike some of these peoples statements!!

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  • Thor Kuniholm

I agree to this mr.

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Henrietta Fartzberg
Henrietta Fartzberg
  • Thor Kuniholm

what ? only criminals should have guns, about like it is now with all the mass shootings, If people were armed the shooters would think twice about getting themselves killed when thy take out a piece in a crown and start firing. Have live in places where people were the guns on their belt, in places where you are not allowed to have a gun, I much prefer the gun on the belt, it eliminates crime. The statistics show it to be true. The 2nd amendment is the law of the land until some fancy...

what ? only criminals should have guns, about like it is now with all the mass shootings, If people were armed the shooters would think twice about getting themselves killed when thy take out a piece in a crown and start firing. Have live in places where people were the guns on their belt, in places where you are not allowed to have a gun, I much prefer the gun on the belt, it eliminates crime. The statistics show it to be true. The 2nd amendment is the law of the land until some fancy lawyer who all carry try and take our guns so they can do whatever they want.

Kyle Knowlton
Kyle Knowlton

Well I can't comment and the main point cause I don't have all the UNBIASED FACTS. However I will always defend myself and those I care for. Before you biased people judge that statement. I said DEFEND NOT KILL (unless the situation really justified it). It really does get on my nerves to all the foreigners on here saying our country is bad for rules like this. Personally IN MY OPINION you brits especially piss me off thinking and acting like your better then everyone else and perfect...

Well I can't comment and the main point cause I don't have all the UNBIASED FACTS. However I will always defend myself and those I care for. Before you biased people judge that statement. I said DEFEND NOT KILL (unless the situation really justified it). It really does get on my nerves to all the foreigners on here saying our country is bad for rules like this. Personally IN MY OPINION you brits especially piss me off thinking and acting like your better then everyone else and perfect without facts. Ask an old man from northern ireland and I'm sure they won't think that. Another thing after people start stuff with america and lose we use our own hardworking taxpayer money to rebuild and improve that country. As far as I'm concerned we can shut ourselves off from other countries (we don't need you, we are self sufficient) then if you start stuff with us we will come whip your butt then leave you as-is. That countries fault for starting it so they don't deserve our help. We need the focus on us not you. Our money is needed to stay here badly. I have just gotten so sick and tired of other countries disrespecting one that has either saved them or helped them especially when we have the same problems as you or worse that need focused on here.

Kyle Knowlton
Kyle Knowlton
  • Kyle Knowlton

Once again les you prove what a moron you are and how much of a puppet you are. You hear and watch this b.s. from biased news and media sources that will say anything to get ratings. Then you automatically believe it all. I use to be that dumb back in the day too until i opened my eyes and ears. Warmongering personally calling me that doesn't bother me because i would rather be feared then walked on or controlled, again like a puppet. As i also have stated i prefer to be shut off from ill-informed morons like you that drag us down.

Kyle Knowlton
Kyle Knowlton
  • Kyle Knowlton

Fund explosions welcome to the world of arms dealing. It's a business and treated as such. You wanna blame someone then blame those who actually made the explosions. Where did i say that we were knights, yes i said we helped you cause we did. We have our own problems here and i know that which is the main reason why we need to focus inward instead of making it worse by helping disrespectful pricks like you. Yet again you apparently don't even know part of your own history. I suggest you...

Fund explosions welcome to the world of arms dealing. It's a business and treated as such. You wanna blame someone then blame those who actually made the explosions. Where did i say that we were knights, yes i said we helped you cause we did. We have our own problems here and i know that which is the main reason why we need to focus inward instead of making it worse by helping disrespectful pricks like you. Yet again you apparently don't even know part of your own history. I suggest you study up before you keep making that pathetic excuse that we only helped you when it suited us. Guess what you excuse for a human we lost soldiers and supplies over there too. Also like a puppet yet again you hold all americans responsible for what our crooked government does. If you actually lived here you would know we have been fighting that for a long time. As far as your country i personally don't care about it or any others. I am more worried about mine and you can worry about yours. Which leads back to the basis of this disagreement. WHY ARE YOU STICKING YOUR NOSE IN BUSINESS THAT DOESN'T AFFECT YOU OR INVOLVE YOU IN ANY WAY????? Worry about your own issues ..... OH WAIT i forgot according to your attitude The UK is perfect and we are all lesser beings that should be like you. Bingo that right there is the attitude that pisses me off no matter where your from. Like i said before america has its own issues we need to focus on before giving a crap about you or any others. I do believe when attacked by a country we have a right to defend ourselves. And no i don't care for fixing and improving a country that tried to destroy us.

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  • Kyle Knowlton

here we go again..down the cotton trail..its about this..no its about that...please stick to the issue..or does anyone know what that is...

Wolodymyr Roshetsky
Wolodymyr Roshetsky

For all you people that voted no. The first time they kick your front door in and rob you you might feel different about it

Joe Molnar
Joe Molnar
  • Wolodymyr Roshetsky

Let the justice system do its job. The court of liberal media needs to stand down as do the so called leaders hell bent on starting a racial incident. What about the recent incident in Phoenix AZ where a black man shot an unarmed Hispanic man with the mental capacity of a 12 year old? http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/crime/taco-bell-shooting-victim-was-holding-leash-not-weapon-4-4-2012
Don't see any mention on lamest ram media. Don't see Jesse Jackson or Louis Farrakhan or Al Sharpton or...

Let the justice system do its job. The court of liberal media needs to stand down as do the so called leaders hell bent on starting a racial incident. What about the recent incident in Phoenix AZ where a black man shot an unarmed Hispanic man with the mental capacity of a 12 year old? http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/crime/taco-bell-shooting-victim-was-holding-leash-not-weapon-4-4-2012
Don't see any mention on lamest ram media. Don't see Jesse Jackson or Louis Farrakhan or Al Sharpton or the Black Panthers rallying to the defense of the victim and his family!

Joe Molnar
Joe Molnar
  • Wolodymyr Roshetsky

"lame stream media"

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  • Wolodymyr Roshetsky

Especially if it were u on the other side!!

Bunnie Strassner
Bunnie Strassner

Shooting an unarmed person that isn't bothering you is not self defense. Color doesn't matter, time of day doesn't matter, clothing doesn't matter. The only possible exception is if a larger or stronger person is severely beating up or raping a smaller or weaker person. Otherwise, it's murder. Why is this a difficult concept?

Lane Lombardia
Lane Lombardia
  • Bunnie Strassner

Mr. Zimmerman alleges, and I presume that you know this but are neglecting this because it doesn't fit your world-view, that he lost contact with Mr. Martin and that Mr. Martin snuck up on, confronted, and attacked him, beating him to the ground and bouncing his head off pavement. When police investigated, they found Mr. Zimmerman to have injuries consistent with his claims. So, let me ask you, if you were jumped from behind, knocked to the ground, being pummeled and having your head slammed...

Mr. Zimmerman alleges, and I presume that you know this but are neglecting this because it doesn't fit your world-view, that he lost contact with Mr. Martin and that Mr. Martin snuck up on, confronted, and attacked him, beating him to the ground and bouncing his head off pavement. When police investigated, they found Mr. Zimmerman to have injuries consistent with his claims. So, let me ask you, if you were jumped from behind, knocked to the ground, being pummeled and having your head slammed into pavement repeatedly, then do you think your life might genuinely be in danger?

Now I freely concede that this is merely Mr. Zimmerman's claim and the medical observations of the responding officers; but, you allege that Mr. Martin was not bothering Mr. Zimmerman, and I submit that there is reason to question that assumption.

The jury will weigh the evidence in totality. Why is this a difficult concept?

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  • Bunnie Strassner

Lane Lombardia Time to go to bed Lane,,ur wife is calling...

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  • Bunnie Strassner

She is REALLY wanting u to get off this forum...is Zimmermon ur family member? Seriously...

Donna Talent
Donna Talent

Now let me get this straight. If I'm not carrying a gun and someone shoots and kills me, it's my fault because I wasn't strapped. And, furthermore, if I had been carrying a gun I wouldn't have been killed. If someone shoots and kills you, it's murder, plain and simple. Claims of self-defense in violent encounters have tripled since the "Stand Your Ground law was enacted. Less violence? I think not.

Miranda Foust
Miranda Foust
  • Donna Talent

I say it's just all bullshit & it is murder period. But now its about skittles, iced tea, & being black. Oh & a hoddie. It may have been because he was black idk I'm not Zimmerman, but all this adding violence & racism to it its just ignorant & making it worse! I'm so tired of hearing about white people this or craka that! I had to delete people from my page because of it! Did they actually think I was going to put up with it?? Anyways that law is bullshit & why that man is not getting a trial I don't know!

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  • Donna Talent

Miranda Foust Wake up dear lady..race is a factor... Ignorance breeds Ignorance breeds racism!!

Henrietta Fartzberg
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  • Donna Talent

you think not !

P Vliet
P Vliet

This statute is ill-conceived, permitting those with no self-control or an improper agenda to kill or severely injure anyone they choose and claim that they had a reasonable fear of them. It is the sort of law I would expect to come out of California's equally ill-conceived referendum system, which allows any bill whose supporters are able to submit with sufficient signatures to be placed on the ballot and voted into law, whether or not it is constitutional. The Stand Your Ground law is...

This statute is ill-conceived, permitting those with no self-control or an improper agenda to kill or severely injure anyone they choose and claim that they had a reasonable fear of them. It is the sort of law I would expect to come out of California's equally ill-conceived referendum system, which allows any bill whose supporters are able to submit with sufficient signatures to be placed on the ballot and voted into law, whether or not it is constitutional. The Stand Your Ground law is clearly such an unconstitutional law, depriving individuals of life at the hands of other private individuals without due process of law.

As a mother, I recognize each person as someone's child. How many more children must die, leaving their parents with holes in their hearts that will never heal, before this broken system of injustice is reversed to become part of our system of justice?

Lane Lombardia
Lane Lombardia
  • P Vliet

Statistically, concealed carry permit holders are more self-controlled than the general populace. This is verifiable in every state where there is a permitting process.

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  • P Vliet

Lane Lombardia U must just love spending all ur time at the Rifle Range!! Where is ur Self Control?? Costly little hobby!!

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  • P Vliet

Well Lane..seems u have removed all ur comments from this forum..

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