Bunnie Strassner
Bunnie Strassner

Shooting an unarmed person that isn't bothering you is not self defense. Color doesn't matter, time of day doesn't matter, clothing doesn't matter. The only possible exception is if a larger or stronger person is severely beating up or raping a smaller or weaker person. Otherwise, it's murder. Why is this a difficult concept?

Lane Lombardia
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  • Bunnie Strassner

Mr. Zimmerman alleges, and I presume that you know this but are neglecting this because it doesn't fit your world-view, that he lost contact with Mr. Martin and that Mr. Martin snuck up on, confronted, and attacked him, beating him to the ground and bouncing his head off pavement. When police investigated, they found Mr. Zimmerman to have injuries consistent with his claims. So, let me ask you, if you were jumped from behind, knocked to the ground, being pummeled and having your head slammed...

Mr. Zimmerman alleges, and I presume that you know this but are neglecting this because it doesn't fit your world-view, that he lost contact with Mr. Martin and that Mr. Martin snuck up on, confronted, and attacked him, beating him to the ground and bouncing his head off pavement. When police investigated, they found Mr. Zimmerman to have injuries consistent with his claims. So, let me ask you, if you were jumped from behind, knocked to the ground, being pummeled and having your head slammed into pavement repeatedly, then do you think your life might genuinely be in danger?

Now I freely concede that this is merely Mr. Zimmerman's claim and the medical observations of the responding officers; but, you allege that Mr. Martin was not bothering Mr. Zimmerman, and I submit that there is reason to question that assumption.

The jury will weigh the evidence in totality. Why is this a difficult concept?

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  • Bunnie Strassner

Lane Lombardia Time to go to bed Lane,,ur wife is calling...

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  • Bunnie Strassner

She is REALLY wanting u to get off this forum...is Zimmermon ur family member? Seriously...

Donna Talent
Donna Talent

Now let me get this straight. If I'm not carrying a gun and someone shoots and kills me, it's my fault because I wasn't strapped. And, furthermore, if I had been carrying a gun I wouldn't have been killed. If someone shoots and kills you, it's murder, plain and simple. Claims of self-defense in violent encounters have tripled since the "Stand Your Ground law was enacted. Less violence? I think not.

Miranda Foust
Miranda Foust
  • Donna Talent

I say it's just all bullshit & it is murder period. But now its about skittles, iced tea, & being black. Oh & a hoddie. It may have been because he was black idk I'm not Zimmerman, but all this adding violence & racism to it its just ignorant & making it worse! I'm so tired of hearing about white people this or craka that! I had to delete people from my page because of it! Did they actually think I was going to put up with it?? Anyways that law is bullshit & why that man is not getting a trial I don't know!

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  • Donna Talent

Miranda Foust Wake up dear lady..race is a factor... Ignorance breeds Ignorance breeds racism!!

Jackie Cox
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  • Donna Talent

you think not !

P Melanie Vliet
P Melanie Vliet

This statute is ill-conceived, permitting those with no self-control or an improper agenda to kill or severely injure anyone they choose and claim that they had a reasonable fear of them. It is the sort of law I would expect to come out of California's equally ill-conceived referendum system, which allows any bill whose supporters are able to submit with sufficient signatures to be placed on the ballot and voted into law, whether or not it is constitutional. The Stand Your Ground law is...

This statute is ill-conceived, permitting those with no self-control or an improper agenda to kill or severely injure anyone they choose and claim that they had a reasonable fear of them. It is the sort of law I would expect to come out of California's equally ill-conceived referendum system, which allows any bill whose supporters are able to submit with sufficient signatures to be placed on the ballot and voted into law, whether or not it is constitutional. The Stand Your Ground law is clearly such an unconstitutional law, depriving individuals of life at the hands of other private individuals without due process of law.

As a mother, I recognize each person as someone's child. How many more children must die, leaving their parents with holes in their hearts that will never heal, before this broken system of injustice is reversed to become part of our system of justice?

Lane Lombardia
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  • P Melanie Vliet

Statistically, concealed carry permit holders are more self-controlled than the general populace. This is verifiable in every state where there is a permitting process.

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Lane Lombardia U must just love spending all ur time at the Rifle Range!! Where is ur Self Control?? Costly little hobby!!

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  • P Melanie Vliet

Well Lane..seems u have removed all ur comments from this forum..

Lara Nunes
Lara Nunes

Hmm this is weird on this site it says ONLY 49 people voted, yet on the scale it says 69% voted yes... I think this thing is rigged on the voting.

Carol Mutton
Carol Mutton
  • Lara Nunes

It means 69% of the 49 people that voted, voted yes. Now, 423 have voted and 62% of them voted yes, repeal it.

Lara Nunes
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  • Lara Nunes

Carol Mutton thank you .... so 57% who voted yes are democratics who believes in being slaves ... Now i see the mentality of the zombies who has no brains .

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  • Lara Nunes

LES REED :Thought u took the hint they gave u Les Reed...go on back home now..ur input is not appreciated in this matter.

Linda Rizzio De Santis
Linda Rizzio De Santis

This law is intended for innocent people to be able to protect themselves against someone try to hurt them.If you want it repealed this law you never felt threatened and do not know what that fear is like.

Ron Meyers
Ron Meyers
  • Linda Rizzio De Santis

Refine it- maybe. Repeal it- NO! Everyone has the right to defend themselves against anyone intending to do them bodily harm- armed or not. Don't want to get shot- mind your business and respect the right of others to be left alone.

Maureen Masonbrink
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  • Linda Rizzio De Santis

Ron Meyers Sure, Ron. But while you are minding your own business, etc., follow the instructions given you by an officer of the law while you are on the phone with him or her! DO not become a vigilante and take the law into your own hands...That man may have been a member of the neighborhood watch but he was not a sworn in officer of the law!

Glenn Vincent Stearns
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  • Linda Rizzio De Santis

Maureen Masonbrink Do you know for a fact that is what happened? If so you will be the first, and I would like to know how you know that? There has been no evidence backing the accusations of the media that Zimmerman continued to follow Martin after being told to stand down; in fact one eyewitness account has Zimmerman walking back to his SUV when Martin attacks Zimmerman breaking his nose etc., let's let the courts do their thing and Ron is correct in my opinion, and I am a retired...

Maureen Masonbrink Do you know for a fact that is what happened? If so you will be the first, and I would like to know how you know that? There has been no evidence backing the accusations of the media that Zimmerman continued to follow Martin after being told to stand down; in fact one eyewitness account has Zimmerman walking back to his SUV when Martin attacks Zimmerman breaking his nose etc., let's let the courts do their thing and Ron is correct in my opinion, and I am a retired Federal Officer BTW. If Zimmerman were threatened with his life and feared for his, or even that he may go unconscious and then would be helpless against someone smashing him in the face... We need answers though before we jump to conclusions. The law is good; the application is why we need to watch the police and the judges so that it is applied only when it fits.

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  • Linda Rizzio De Santis

Maureen Masonbrink U r right Maureen.

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  • Linda Rizzio De Santis

Glenn Vincent Stearns What?? You can hear him (Zimmermon} breathing hard as hr chases Treyvon and try's to talk to 911 operator..After being told to retreat..and in another breath calls Treyvon a Dam-- Coo--..go back and listen to the taped calls in high quality..i did!! and i listened to the delight in his voice as he thought of his "catch" ,,Zimmermon is one of the sickest puppies around with obvious emotinal problems ,,including the need desire to b the "Hero" "Deputy Dawg...

Glenn Vincent Stearns What?? You can hear him (Zimmermon} breathing hard as hr chases Treyvon and try's to talk to 911 operator..After being told to retreat..and in another breath calls Treyvon a Dam-- Coo--..go back and listen to the taped calls in high quality..i did!! and i listened to the delight in his voice as he thought of his "catch" ,,Zimmermon is one of the sickest puppies around with obvious emotinal problems ,,including the need desire to b the "Hero" "Deputy Dawg syndrome.".federal Officer (BTW)?? retired i'm sure...at the end of the day he is also a sad excuse for a man..shooting down a teenager..when he could have avoided it if he had listened to police.

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  • Linda Rizzio De Santis

Yes Sue!! What u said!!!

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Glenn Vincent Stearns Listen to the 911 tapes..Listen Intently..and then say what u said!!

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  • Linda Rizzio De Santis

maureen masonbrink: and that dear, is exactly what Zimmermon did!!

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  • Linda Rizzio De Santis

Exactly Maureen Masonbrick!!

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Maureen..well said dear!!

Vanessa Staros-Schaefer

I live in FL, I DO NOT own a gun. I NEVER WILL. Guns are not the answer. It's not civilized! We are not living in 1787 when the Constitution was written, nor are we living in the wild west - but it sure feels that way... more and more each day... Children die playing with guns, deranged adults kill or maim doing senseless foolish acts. I say adjust the Second Amendment. Restrict guns to Police, Military, FBI and the like. - Get them off the streets. But that won't happen 'cause the highly...

I live in FL, I DO NOT own a gun. I NEVER WILL. Guns are not the answer. It's not civilized! We are not living in 1787 when the Constitution was written, nor are we living in the wild west - but it sure feels that way... more and more each day... Children die playing with guns, deranged adults kill or maim doing senseless foolish acts. I say adjust the Second Amendment. Restrict guns to Police, Military, FBI and the like. - Get them off the streets. But that won't happen 'cause the highly funded NRA rules - overshadowing "we the people." How many more innocents have to die? Stupid is as stupid does... "Imagine all the people Living life in peace," "You may say I'm a dreamer - But I'm not the only one - I hope some day you'll join us - And the world will live as one." JL.

Roy Rodriguez
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  • Vanessa Staros-Schaefer

gee vanessa you quote john lennon a drugged out britt. but he had enough $ to get his fix and not have to steal for it ... smart thinking

Gayle Cindy
Gayle Cindy
  • Vanessa Staros-Schaefer

Vanessa you're right we're not living in the wild west.. we're living in an age WORSE than the wild west with the drugs and ganbangers who have no reguards for human life. GUNS DO NOT SHOOT THEM SELVES.. they dont hop off of a shelf and shoot.. And the day they shoot themselves I'll jump on the bandwagon for banning them.. Its usually the GANGBANGERS that are shooting people and killing them.In chicago another little girl asleep on her couch was shot through the house walls ... let me...

Vanessa you're right we're not living in the wild west.. we're living in an age WORSE than the wild west with the drugs and ganbangers who have no reguards for human life. GUNS DO NOT SHOOT THEM SELVES.. they dont hop off of a shelf and shoot.. And the day they shoot themselves I'll jump on the bandwagon for banning them.. Its usually the GANGBANGERS that are shooting people and killing them.In chicago another little girl asleep on her couch was shot through the house walls ... let me guess that gun was outside alone and shot the house. NO it was a SCUMBAG gangbanger that shot that gun. LAW ABIDING Citizens dont go shooting people. People have them in their homes for protection against SCUMBAGS who feel it is their right to break into your house and take things they didnt work for. OR to harm your family. I refuse to be a victim of one or more of these PUNKS. GET A JOB, EARN YOUR OWN money and buy your own things . Its NOT GUN VIOLENCE as the lamestream media loves to word it IT IS GANG VIOLENCE that is the problem. PERIOD.

Gayle Cindy
Gayle Cindy
  • Vanessa Staros-Schaefer

the reason children die from "Playing with guns" Is Irresponible gun owners who do not lock them up.. there are plenty of ways to keep guns out of childrens hands. LOCK THEM UP or have trigger locks on them. again I agree with you STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES.

Teresa Donaldson Peal
Teresa Donaldson Peal
  • Vanessa Staros-Schaefer

Vanessa , if you try & take all the guns from the law abiding citizens , that leaves us helpless , because ur not going to get the guns from the criminals , they don't register their guns , that is a dumb statment if ever I heard one .... wake up & smell the coffee ... a lot more innocent people will die if our guns are taken away & the criminals keep their's ... I for one will never support this & hope it never happens in America . The police will have their guns & the criminals will have...

Vanessa , if you try & take all the guns from the law abiding citizens , that leaves us helpless , because ur not going to get the guns from the criminals , they don't register their guns , that is a dumb statment if ever I heard one .... wake up & smell the coffee ... a lot more innocent people will die if our guns are taken away & the criminals keep their's ... I for one will never support this & hope it never happens in America . The police will have their guns & the criminals will have their's , so tell me what will we have for protection ???? a ball bat ... I think not I can just imagine trying to defend myself aganist an intruder with a gun & I myself armed with a ball bat !!!!!

Michael Cosine
Michael Cosine
  • Vanessa Staros-Schaefer

Gayle Sikorra Well said I agree completely!

Gayle Cindy
Gayle Cindy
  • Vanessa Staros-Schaefer

Michael Cosine Thank you.. I just hate it when people blame "The Gun" And aren't responsible. You hear of children being killed "shooting themselves" or by a " friend" because daddy or mommy left the gun on the dresser or in a drawer and the kids thought it was a "TOY". So to me that is a weak argument on Vanessas part.

Glenn Vincent Stearns
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  • Vanessa Staros-Schaefer

Vanessa, if guns are outlawed then only outlaws would have the guns. People in countries with strict gun laws still have high violent crime rates. By the way, Washington D.C. had the strictest gun laws in the country and comparable with the most docile in the world, yet was the undisputed MURDER capital of the WORLD for decades. They lost that title the day they allowed citizens to carry weapons again. Try to rape a .38; the police are only minutes away when seconds count right? Hope you never meet evil people, like I have.

Glenn Vincent Stearns
Glenn Vincent Stearns
  • Vanessa Staros-Schaefer

Gayle Sikorra Well said! I totally agree.

Bob Washburn
Bob Washburn
  • Vanessa Staros-Schaefer

Vanessa, our founding fathers wanted us to be armed because as a last resort we might have to overthrow a tyranical government, just as they did in 1776. Gun control works. Just ask the Germans, the Russians, the Iraqis, the Chinese etc..... The key to everything is proper punishment for violating laws and teaching the Constitution to each and every citizen so people will know when the laws are being violated, not resticting our freedoms. Read Bastiat's "The Law." One of the crucial points...

Vanessa, our founding fathers wanted us to be armed because as a last resort we might have to overthrow a tyranical government, just as they did in 1776. Gun control works. Just ask the Germans, the Russians, the Iraqis, the Chinese etc..... The key to everything is proper punishment for violating laws and teaching the Constitution to each and every citizen so people will know when the laws are being violated, not resticting our freedoms. Read Bastiat's "The Law." One of the crucial points he makes is that in order to control the people "the poison and the antidote must be made in the same laboratory." Gayle, it's a tragedy when children die from playing with guns. Again it goes to the education and not restriction. All my children were brought up around guns just as I. There was never a curiosity about them. I knew what they were capable of doing, learned about them as tools and how to take care of them as such. A gun lying around was the same as a hammer that is to be used at the proper time and only as such. Parents that don't expose their children to guns from day one and expect them to not be excited about touching or using such a powerful tool are negligent in the upbringing of their children. Lastly, it is a violence issue. When we can curtail the violence and punish the perpetrators rather than coddle them like little babies, the violent deaths will end. People in countries without guns kill by other means. The government wants us to be disarmed for their own benefit period. I'm not a fanatic right-winged wasp. I believe in the Constitution and personal responsibility. I still belive that if our country would unite we could vote in the correct people to make us a strong nation again. Let's excercise these rights while we still have them and quit debating all the small things that break us up.

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  • Vanessa Staros-Schaefer

Vanessa that was so well said. You were very thoughful and insightful especially when it came to your understanding of humanity. Thank you for speaking the truth. We are losing our humanity more and more every day.

Lesia Moore Donalson
Lesia Moore Donalson

Self defense is a basic human right, and an innate instinct. However, it should not be allowed to be a defense for murder, either. Each situation should be investigated and if deemed the person acted outside the stand your ground defense, he or she should b e treated as a murderer. Rework the law!

Angel House
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  • Lesia Moore Donalson

Lesia, the law Already works Just as you Say. Each situation IS to be investigated, and they Would be treated as a murderer if Found that they acted Outside that law. There is NO NEED to Touch the law or make it Convoluted. Just to Investigate and find the truth, NOT Mob Rule Opnion, Fueled by a Biased and Racist / Divisive president, who is there to Divide us to Control us and to Subjugate us by Taking our Consitutional Rights from us.
Sadly, as said in The Matrix, Some Victims of the Corrupt System will Fight For it.

Audrey Dunham
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  • Lesia Moore Donalson

Angel House You adults the only law is the 10 commandments . Do not use the word God bless America. use the word THE 10 COMMANDMENTS WILL BLESS AMERICA

Stephanie Hatfield
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  • Lesia Moore Donalson

Audrey White RosarioDunham - no only God can bless

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  • Lesia Moore Donalson

Stephanie Zdravka: God will Bless America, but only IF we continue to honor ad obey the Ten Commandments. More and more, our country is disobeying the Higher Law, and defiling itself in God's eyes. And all too soon, He WILL withdraw His blessing...and then America truly will fall. Its sad, but that is exactly what is written in the Book of Revelations.

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  • Lesia Moore Donalson

Excellent!! Agree,,Agree..

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Audrey White RosarioDunham Please go back to sleep Audrey White??

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Oh Lord Please help us All!!! and stop arguing kids or i'll throw u off the bus!!

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  • Lesia Moore Donalson

Jewbaby VP Jewbaby · More ad hominem attacks? Really?

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Lesia Moore Donalson, agree with u!!

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  • Lesia Moore Donalson

Audrey White RosarioDunham time and intellect, based on spirituality, has created more laws than the ten, just as ethical, to ensure equal rights, justice, the right of self protection against aggression is one. its necessary to have guns the same as criminals to protect us from them, the police cannot be everywhere, all the time

Glenn Vincent Stearns
Glenn Vincent Stearns

The Stand Your Ground Law is to provide for the defense in a situation when you are in fear for your life from a threatening person(s). The interpretation of the law to allow killing someone for stealing your radio or ringing your doorbell is garbage, and needs to be clarified. I am no longer physically able to hold my own with a physical altercation, but I am still a good shot, after 20 plus years in the Army. I didn't stand up for my country to abuse the second amendment rights, nor to...

The Stand Your Ground Law is to provide for the defense in a situation when you are in fear for your life from a threatening person(s). The interpretation of the law to allow killing someone for stealing your radio or ringing your doorbell is garbage, and needs to be clarified. I am no longer physically able to hold my own with a physical altercation, but I am still a good shot, after 20 plus years in the Army. I didn't stand up for my country to abuse the second amendment rights, nor to see them watered down nor taken away because some judge or police failed to use the letter and the spirit of the law. If Zimmerman had his nose broken and was threatened with his life by his assailant, 17 year old "angel" or check out his Facebook Page, he is all thugged out and flipping the bird and gang signing et al. So I don't like the fact Trevon is dead, but we need to have the facts and witnesses come out, the media and all the black groups making a cottage industry out of this case has obscured justice for sure, no matter what the facts might have been. The media have this half hispanic half white young mad guilty until proven innocent, and I for one hate that communistic thought process... I am an American and everyone, especially the folks you don't like have the right to equal justice under the law, due process and if the police found no reason to arrest him then you question the police, fine, but calling for the arrest of someone when you do NOT know the facts is rotten. The Stand Your Ground Law is a good law, and has protected many a Floridian, but needs to be enforced and interpreted with common sense and fairness. If the circumstances did not fit the law, then of course the arrest should have been made. All this "what if the situation were reveresed" crap makes me want to puke! So you are saying a black young man can be all thugged out, threaten a man with his life and break his nose and the "white guy" has to just lay there and take it and hope he doesn't get beaten to death right? Bull crap! Unless the witnesses and/or other "proof" and admissable evidence convicts Zimmerman of something, then the true seeker of justice has to look at BOTH sides, and possiblilities that one or the other or possibly both are responsible to some degree for that tragic death. Glorification of wearing hoodies and being all thugged out is crap too. There you have my 2 cents on this subject. Let's get the facts and stop jumping to conclusions... Al Sharpton was wrong before about Tawanda, remember the hate crime victim with the spray painted swastika on her that claimed rape by multiple white men, and then she finally admitted she staged it herself for attention? Well no doubt the young man is dead, but medical treatment of Zimmerman's nose, coupled with the eyewitness accounts of Trayvon on top of Zimmerman hitting him, and Zimmerman crying out for help, and his back was covered with grass-stains and moisture... all consistent with his story and reasons for the police to believe him, although they DID take him downtown for questioning. By the way, who out there wants to have their doctor diagnose them by watching them walk by on video from about 25 feet away? Is that going to be very accurate? Then stop saying this crap that "gee his nose didn't look broken on the video." Stop being stupid!

Robert Bradford
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  • Glenn Vincent Stearns

I would first like to say thank you for your service to our country... That was an amazing sacrifice and a choice most Americans will never be brave enough to make. I also agree with you on the fact that the media has painted Zimmerman guilty until proven innocent and that the law should not be repealed but it should provide more clarity into what instances people are covered under the law. However, the fact that you look at this young mans Facebook page and determined that he was a 17 year...

I would first like to say thank you for your service to our country... That was an amazing sacrifice and a choice most Americans will never be brave enough to make. I also agree with you on the fact that the media has painted Zimmerman guilty until proven innocent and that the law should not be repealed but it should provide more clarity into what instances people are covered under the law. However, the fact that you look at this young mans Facebook page and determined that he was a 17 year old thug that has pictures of him putting up gang signs, shows that you are also misled by your own beliefs of what a thug is. In all actuality Trayvon Martin is far from a thug his behavior on Facebook in my eyes shows that of a typical young teenager (black or white). Lets just get down to the meat and potatoes of this Trayvon was a 140 lbs teenager armed with a pack of skittles and an iced tea, George Zimmerman a 200+lbs 28 year old adult male armed with a gun. There could have been an altercation where he is was screaming for help and many say that the voice was Trayvon screaming for help (so I will not touch on this). I will say that just from what has been clear you as a veteran of our great nation can see this is something that should not have happened. Zimmerman if involved in an altercation with Trayvon should have been arrested until all facts of his story was proven. The lead investigator at the time said that Zimmermans story sounded unlikely and false. But just getting back to the apperance are you telling me that you as a United States Army Veteran that you don't see the problem in this equation. Im not claiming Zimmerman to be guilty I think thats a decision for the courts to make but can you honestly believe that this makes any sense.

Bob Mearns
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  • Glenn Vincent Stearns

Robert Bradford
My thoughts are that I only need one point clarified. IF its true that Treyvon charged and attacked Zimmerman then I think the public needs to reevaluate themselves. On the other hand if Treyvon was shot in the back then Zimmerman has a problem IMHO.

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  • Glenn Vincent Stearns

So the fact that Zimmerman followed and pursued a young man armed with a deadly women even after being ask to stop by police officers has no merit in this case. This type of thinking will allow anyone with a gun the abililty to shoot someone because they can't win a fair fight. So basically he can say oh no im losing this fight time to shoot the unarmed kid.... I havent spent much time online in awhile but I never thought that so many people would have such obscure views... I guess thats...

So the fact that Zimmerman followed and pursued a young man armed with a deadly women even after being ask to stop by police officers has no merit in this case. This type of thinking will allow anyone with a gun the abililty to shoot someone because they can't win a fair fight. So basically he can say oh no im losing this fight time to shoot the unarmed kid.... I havent spent much time online in awhile but I never thought that so many people would have such obscure views... I guess thats another thing that Glenn Vincent Stearns fought for as well.... SMH

Jeff Engelmann
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  • Glenn Vincent Stearns

The press, once again shilling for the sitting president, are unified in their response. The relection strategy is to inflame racial tensions and once again tap into white guilt. They haven't got anything else to run on.

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  • Glenn Vincent Stearns

Robert Bradford ...watch out for being armed "with a deadly woman"...sounds pretty scary?

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  • Glenn Vincent Stearns

Robert Bradford There is absolutely no evidence to support your position. When Zimmerman called 911, he spoke with a dispatcher, not a police officer, who advised him not to follow the suspect to which he replied "OK". That is what was recorded and released to the press. There was no way of Zimmerman knowing if Martin was armed or not. I seriously doubt Martin would have even approached Zimmerman if he knew Zimmerman was armed. The only thing we know now is that it was Martin jumping...

Robert Bradford There is absolutely no evidence to support your position. When Zimmerman called 911, he spoke with a dispatcher, not a police officer, who advised him not to follow the suspect to which he replied "OK". That is what was recorded and released to the press. There was no way of Zimmerman knowing if Martin was armed or not. I seriously doubt Martin would have even approached Zimmerman if he knew Zimmerman was armed. The only thing we know now is that it was Martin jumping Zimmerman, throwing the first punch not the other way around. Let the investigation continue and stop prosecuting the case in the court of public opinion. Americans are innocent until proven guilty not the other way around.

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  • Glenn Vincent Stearns

Karen June Hughes You are absolutely right... its no way of knowing certain things about that case... I can say this one thing if it was I that shoot and killed a young white man. I would most definitely be in jail right now.

Robert Bradford
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  • Glenn Vincent Stearns

Bob Mearns lol... it is and believe me Bob I also own my very own deadly weapon as well. I know the need to protect myself and I am more than sure we can agree on that.

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  • Glenn Vincent Stearns

Jeff Engelheimercoqteausonmann Really.... smh????

Karen June Hughes
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  • Glenn Vincent Stearns

Robert Bradford You really don't know that. Let's stop dealing in conjecture and hyperbole and let the investigation continue unfettered.

RevDon Bowles III
RevDon Bowles III

People need to stop fueling the the "Racist" fire. I see too many people jumping to conclusions without having all the facts. It's at the point where in jumping to conclusions was exercise this Nation Under God would also be the fittest.

Rab Banerjee
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  • RevDon Bowles III

RACISM IS ALIVE AND WELL IN THIS COUNTRY. AT ONE POINT IN MY LIFE, I LOST EVERYTHING I HAD BECAUSE OF RACISM. I STILL CANNOT GET OVER THAt.......

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  • RevDon Bowles III

Lets just say this: If I a African American male was to killed a young white man in Florida even claiming self defense, do you think I would be free for over a month after the shooting... Come on now people lets be honest.

RevDon Bowles III
RevDon Bowles III
  • RevDon Bowles III

Robert Bradford First, are you truly from Africa? If not, you are an American and Americans shouldn't be fighting amongst ourselves to begin with. Our focus should be on stopping racism dead in its tracks and ensuring our children do not have to deal with it at all. Second, I hope you would be free, as long as it was truly self-defense. Right now we have no idea if Zimmerman actually shot Martin in self-defense or not, we have yet to see and hear all the facts. Just the same as if it was you and someone else in the same situation.

Robert Bradford
Robert Bradford
  • RevDon Bowles III

Well the part about me being African American has no relevance what so ever... but hey why not I can directly trace my ancestory back to Africa and yes I have been to Africa on several occasions. Now back to the topic we should not be fight each other I completely agree with you there but thats the problem we are. Racism is alive and well her in America I am living proof I know because I am an American citizen more so I am a African American Veteran of the Air Force. I know most people want...

Well the part about me being African American has no relevance what so ever... but hey why not I can directly trace my ancestory back to Africa and yes I have been to Africa on several occasions. Now back to the topic we should not be fight each other I completely agree with you there but thats the problem we are. Racism is alive and well her in America I am living proof I know because I am an American citizen more so I am a African American Veteran of the Air Force. I know most people want to say that its not happening but trust me it is and once were able to come together and acknowledge that instead of denying its existance then we can fix the problems that we have.

Roy Rodriguez
Roy Rodriguez
  • RevDon Bowles III

Robert Bradford no but if you killed another black man would and body march for/against you , would anyone/ sharpton even care..no...thats the shame of it all every one jumps to the news/tv before every thing is sorted out..

Robert Bradford
Robert Bradford
  • RevDon Bowles III

Roy Rodriguez I agree with you Roy nobody will do a thing and I hope that at some point we can change that. Trust me Roy I know that racism ends up being sensationalized and a lot of nothing gets accomplished that way. But if its sensationalized racism does it make it any less racist. All I am saying is that we all have to come to the table and say hey racism exists we both know this lets move on as a country and eliminate all this petty bullshit about skin color and grow together.

Robert Bradford
Robert Bradford
  • RevDon Bowles III

Roy Rodriguez I would also like to tell you thank you for your service Roy.

Michael Cosine
Michael Cosine
  • RevDon Bowles III

Robert Bradford Yes lets be honest and forthright I think in current day United States the color that is most important is Green not black not white but that very special shade of Green. Also I have wondered for many years now if racism in all its ugly forms would ever die in the US: the answer is not in my lifetime at least. I grew up in the sixties we had such high hopes and dreams back then where have they gone?? It makes me profoundly sad.

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  • RevDon Bowles III

Racism Breeds Ignorance breeds Racism!! Shalom to all !!

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  • RevDon Bowles III

Don Bowles ..If his ancestors are from Africa..hes from africa..he can claim any heritage he so chooses just as our pez does and that is many!! have u ever been wrongly acused ?? Robert Bradford has been picked on tonight because he was one of the few black men on this forum..lets all cool off..has been a stressful discussion...no harm intended. Shalom!!

Janet Pearson-Day
Janet Pearson-Day

I find it very disturbing that is is so easy for people in the States to obtain weapons of any kind...all the violence on the TV just encourages people to attack and ask questions later...the world has become a very unsafe place and as far as I am concerned the sooner the Lord returns to take his people home to safety the better...I feel so very sad for Trayvon's family THIS SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED.....

Janet Pearson-Day
Janet Pearson-Day
  • Janet Pearson-Day

sorry Paula, but never in my house...

Lane Lombardia
Lane Lombardia
  • Janet Pearson-Day

You referred to "weapons of any kind". Do you know all five types of weapons?
1. Sticks (All manner of pole arms fall into this category to some extent as well as a hiker's walking stick, a cricket bat, or a broom. Are you suggesting that sale or possession of brooms be banned?)
2. Blades (This includes pen knives, kitchen knives, scissors, machetes, swords, halberds, axes, etc. Again, are you proposing the ban on sale or possession of anything that can hold an edge?)
3. Flexible weapons (A...

You referred to "weapons of any kind". Do you know all five types of weapons?
1. Sticks (All manner of pole arms fall into this category to some extent as well as a hiker's walking stick, a cricket bat, or a broom. Are you suggesting that sale or possession of brooms be banned?)
2. Blades (This includes pen knives, kitchen knives, scissors, machetes, swords, halberds, axes, etc. Again, are you proposing the ban on sale or possession of anything that can hold an edge?)
3. Flexible weapons (A rope, without or without weights, a chain, with or without weights, or even the belt holding up a person's trousers all fit this description.)
4. Projectile weapons (This covers bow & arrow, crossbow & bolt, sling, slingshot, a thrown rock, and, of course firearms. Are you suggesting that all rocks small enough to be thrown be ground to sand?)
5. Combination weapons

Now that you know the 5 weapon types, all I can say is of course weapons are easy to obtain; but not merely in the US. I submit that you can obtain at least one of the weapons described above in any major city in less than an hour in any country in the world provided you had the currency to pay for it.

In woodland it's even easier. It should take you less than ten minutes to find an object that will serve as a weapon under the definitions above.

Your statement that you "find it very disturbing that is is so easy for people in the States to obtain weapons of any kind" tells me that you had no idea just how broad the term is and how, by definition, plentiful they are.

The most important weapon of all sits between the ears of every living human being.

Janet Pearson-Day
Janet Pearson-Day
  • Janet Pearson-Day

Sir, as I said before, never in my house....whatever I may have hanging around will not and I repeat not be used as a weapon...I have the only weapon I need and that is Almighty God....

Lane Lombardia
Lane Lombardia
  • Janet Pearson-Day

Janet Pearson-Day Thou shalt not put the Lord thy God to the test.

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  • Janet Pearson-Day

Janet Pearson -day; am sooo in agreement with you! shalom!! Love and Light!!also May God Bless you!

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  • Janet Pearson-Day

Lane : its ur bedtime again!!

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  • Janet Pearson-Day

janet, yes the sooner the better and don't think it will b long... if mankind don't kill each other first!

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  • Janet Pearson-Day

Lane Lombardia lol!!!

Jackie Cox
Jackie Cox
  • Janet Pearson-Day

rest in peace

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