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Phil Fender
Phil Fender

When did this killing become about "Stand your Ground?" Stand you ground is a possible defense as any other. The fact is that the Investigator on site thought Zimmerman's story was bullshit but he was overridden by Superiors. Additionally, proper police procedures were not followed in this shooting. It is the police and prosecutor in Stanford that are at fault here, not the law. This is not an issue for your political ranting! Justice was not served but will be, so I suggest that all the...

When did this killing become about "Stand your Ground?" Stand you ground is a possible defense as any other. The fact is that the Investigator on site thought Zimmerman's story was bullshit but he was overridden by Superiors. Additionally, proper police procedures were not followed in this shooting. It is the police and prosecutor in Stanford that are at fault here, not the law. This is not an issue for your political ranting! Justice was not served but will be, so I suggest that all the "know it all, uninformed pundits" allow the Special Prosecutor to do her job and stop deflecting from the real issue which is not Stand your Ground.

Candy Cox
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  • Phil Fender

good word phil

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  • Phil Fender

You Sir are are more brillant than these tiny flecks of coal!!

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  • Phil Fender

Allan Cunningham we shall celebrate..for the truth has finally come to light!! You win this game..for u have all my monopoly money Lol!! Just kiddin!! Well said sir..shalom! Just real nutty from all the krazys on here tonight!! Love and Light!!

Alex Channon
Alex Channon

I'm not an American citizen but I have to say this law and especially its application in Florida is an affront to mankind. I've never been able to comprehend the American obsession with guns. How many people have to die in the USA before before something is done about the 'wild west ' attitude to carrying weapons.

Lane Lombardia
Lane Lombardia
  • Alex Channon

I take it you have never known a rape victim… You obviously, from your "wild west" remark, know absolutely nothing about American history, including American legal history. While I note that you do not mention what country you are from, precluding a fair observation of criminal misuse of combat tools in your own country.

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  • Alex Channon

have u mr, lombardia..historian??

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  • Alex Channon

Er um i do agree some do seem to have an obsession with guns..owning multiple types,years ect. Sheesh!!

Ken Soderstrom
Ken Soderstrom

Kinda hard to stand your ground on your back having your head slammed onto a sidewalk. SYG is necessary if only to keep liberal, gun-grabbing DAs from further terrorizing crime victims.

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  • Ken Soderstrom

research the subject sir..

Ken Soderstrom
Ken Soderstrom
  • Ken Soderstrom

Research Mike Nifong. Libtard DAs w/an agenda make SYG laws essential.

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  • Ken Soderstrom

You r a Gun Collector also Sir?? Southern Colors??

Stuart Stephen Strickler

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the stand your ground law. Personal protection is a God given right. Leave the law alone!

Robert Bradford
Robert Bradford
  • Stuart Stephen Strickler

There is a great deal wrong witht he law it needs to be made clear... When this law started to protect people that are seemingly guilty without trail that is a problem. I agree that we all have the right to protect ourselves and believe this law will be great if revised.

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  • Stuart Stephen Strickler

Robert Bradford: I'm with u but look out here comes Lane to say we're wrong!!

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  • Stuart Stephen Strickler

SSS!! look on his FB page "GUN LOVERS OF AMERCIA UNITE". How can one "LOVE" a Gun???

Lara Nunes
Lara Nunes

Hmm this is weird on this site it says ONLY 49 people voted, yet on the scale it says 69% voted yes... I think this thing is rigged on the voting.

Carol Mutton
Carol Mutton
  • Lara Nunes

It means 69% of the 49 people that voted, voted yes. Now, 423 have voted and 62% of them voted yes, repeal it.

Lara Nunes
Lara Nunes
  • Lara Nunes

Carol Mutton thank you .... so 57% who voted yes are democratics who believes in being slaves ... Now i see the mentality of the zombies who has no brains .

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  • Lara Nunes

LES REED :Thought u took the hint they gave u Les Reed...go on back home now..ur input is not appreciated in this matter.

Ros Greatisthyfaithfullness

I agree with a few comments that I've read; the "Stand Your Ground" law does not mean if you're a teenager you can be killed for Walking While Black, eating skittles, wearing hood (covering for the head and neck and sometimes the face) Webster's Definition and walking in your own neighborhood. Now zimmerman feared for his life this is his defense, Why continue the pursuit after being told to stand down! It's like he went out for neighborhood watch and said " I'm going to take the law into...

I agree with a few comments that I've read; the "Stand Your Ground" law does not mean if you're a teenager you can be killed for Walking While Black, eating skittles, wearing hood (covering for the head and neck and sometimes the face) Webster's Definition and walking in your own neighborhood. Now zimmerman feared for his life this is his defense, Why continue the pursuit after being told to stand down! It's like he went out for neighborhood watch and said " I'm going to take the law into my own hands tonight" regardless to what the Police say I'm above the law and I'll just take the defense of the "Stand Your Ground" law. zimmerman made this racial not the people! and yeah if it were a white kid and a black person on neighborhood watch and a killing had taken place, the "Stand Your Ground" law would be obsolete. Everybody not just black folk can be accused of passing judgement. Especially when you out and out accused Trayvon of being a thug. If there was a Facebook page back when, what would your page look like and what would you be accused of being affiliated with? I'm just saying nobody is exempt from this ridicule! Thanks for Serving our Country Glenn and Robert thanks for your comments. We can agree to disagree with each other as adults and not want to engage in "Stand Your Ground" because of disagreements. The battle is not yours it's the Lords!

Ros Greatisthyfaithfullness
Ros Greatisthyfaithfullness
  • Ros Greatisthyfaithfullness

Like you said the facts if there's any left will speak for itself! I'm not the judge of the jury and one thing is clear that by sworn authorities he was told to stand down!

Lane Lombardia
Lane Lombardia
  • Ros Greatisthyfaithfullness

Rosalind Gamble by his own testimony, he had, unless you're asserting that Mr. Zimmerman believed that Mr. Martin had gone back to Mr. Zimmerman's vehicle and was waiting for him there. Otherwise, going back to his vehicle would be standing down. Strictly speaking, however, he was not told to stand down. He was told "we don't need you to do that". They are not synonymous. Claiming they are the same is playing Monday morning quarterback. I don't know if that is your intention or if I am...

Rosalind Gamble by his own testimony, he had, unless you're asserting that Mr. Zimmerman believed that Mr. Martin had gone back to Mr. Zimmerman's vehicle and was waiting for him there. Otherwise, going back to his vehicle would be standing down. Strictly speaking, however, he was not told to stand down. He was told "we don't need you to do that". They are not synonymous. Claiming they are the same is playing Monday morning quarterback. I don't know if that is your intention or if I am misreading you. Perhaps you could elaborate and rephrase your statement, so we can both be certain that your contention is being understood in the manner you intend.

Ros Greatisthyfaithfullness
Ros Greatisthyfaithfullness
  • Ros Greatisthyfaithfullness

Lane Lombardia you did not misread my words, however; it appears by your words you have a tad bit more incite about this incident than I do as if you've spoken with Zimmerman in the flesh. Depending on the broadcasting station you listen too, the actual accountability of the case has been announce to the public in several metaphors @ this point as I reiterated earlier lets really let the authorities figure out the true facts and go from there while the evidence is still accessible to both...

Lane Lombardia you did not misread my words, however; it appears by your words you have a tad bit more incite about this incident than I do as if you've spoken with Zimmerman in the flesh. Depending on the broadcasting station you listen too, the actual accountability of the case has been announce to the public in several metaphors @ this point as I reiterated earlier lets really let the authorities figure out the true facts and go from there while the evidence is still accessible to both Attorneys and the prosecutors for review! There's been enough media involvement that has translated and construed the actual police recording and actual findings. God will have his way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Ros Greatisthyfaithfullness

Lane Lombardia U sure are rambling and completely off iin ur statements...ke was told "We don't need u to chase him..beat him..shoot him and go back and sit on his dead body..he called him a coon for god's sake..ur trying to make this some type of glorified Constitutional Issue makes me sick!! The Boy Was Shot and Killed!! Get Informed!! Then And Only Then Can you say you are an Informed Individual!!

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  • Ros Greatisthyfaithfullness

Oh Rosalind..u so right!!1

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  • Ros Greatisthyfaithfullness

Rosalind Gamble the facts do stand hon.There must b Justice for Trayvon and i pray the truth prevails!!

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  • Ros Greatisthyfaithfullness

Lane Lombardia: had Zimmermon stayed in this condo that night and not tried to play "Deputy Dawg" Trayvon would be alive!! Zimmermon has a past history of complaints, run ins with police and melting in general . he was an ANTAGONIST!! he enjoyed interfering and making issues his business!!

Henrietta Fartzberg
Henrietta Fartzberg
  • Ros Greatisthyfaithfullness

You could be barac hussain obamas son >

Nina Blackburn
Nina Blackburn

If people did not abuse the law there would be no issue. This law is there to provide you with protection. I would love this law to be introduced in England, the way it is here is disgusting. A man can break into your home and attempt to rape you and if you harm him "YOU" will be prosecuted, it is the criminal who is protected here. Every man and woman should have the right to defend themselves, thier family and what is there's and this law is a blessing as far as I can see. However, I...

If people did not abuse the law there would be no issue. This law is there to provide you with protection. I would love this law to be introduced in England, the way it is here is disgusting. A man can break into your home and attempt to rape you and if you harm him "YOU" will be prosecuted, it is the criminal who is protected here. Every man and woman should have the right to defend themselves, thier family and what is there's and this law is a blessing as far as I can see. However, I wonder to what level England would use the law if we replaced this pathetic "new age parenting" with the discipline that was instilled in me. I would go as far as to say we should have the death penalty--why the hell should the Yorkshire Ripper still be breathing? I knew Josephine Whittaker went to school with the brother Michael and I worked with two of the daughters of one of his other victims, this bastard should have been put against a wall and shot. Do I think your state should abolish this law? No I bloody well don't!

Nicol Hankin
Nicol Hankin
  • Nina Blackburn

I absolutly agree. God help anybody who tries to break in our house coz they'll get more than they bargained for, no matter what the consequences! x

Nina Blackburn
Nina Blackburn
  • Nina Blackburn

Les you are living in world which where clearly you are the only one--do you avoid watching the news aor reading the newspapers--10 year old girls being raped in thier own homes whilst thier mothers are held at knife point!!! Old people being battered half to death in thier own homes for the sake of a few pounds!! You are clearly a very stupid man and clearly have a very poor ability to put your point across without being abusive towards other people when you disagree with thier opinion. ...

Les you are living in world which where clearly you are the only one--do you avoid watching the news aor reading the newspapers--10 year old girls being raped in thier own homes whilst thier mothers are held at knife point!!! Old people being battered half to death in thier own homes for the sake of a few pounds!! You are clearly a very stupid man and clearly have a very poor ability to put your point across without being abusive towards other people when you disagree with thier opinion. I suggest you grow up a little bit and open your eyes, ears unless ofcourse your true opinion is that as long as these things do not happen in your home then they are not really happening----fool!!!!!!!

Karen Hayburn
Karen Hayburn
  • Nina Blackburn

Les, if the 'night stalker' had broke in and raped your mother in her own home would you have the same opinion? Maybe you are right and the Daily Telegraph is wrong. People are entitled to their own opinion, its called Freedom of Speech. You should re read Ninas post and the re read yours. The only one who clearly has issues here is you!

Michael Cosine
Michael Cosine
  • Nina Blackburn

Iin the US many folks of European descent have a very pervasive sense of guilt over the fact that over 400 years ago a small percentage of our ancestors bought native Africans from other Africans brought them to America and forced them work and frankly treated them very badly: worse than we can probably understand in this modern day. This is an accepted historical fact along with the deplorable treatment of the Native American tribes whom they did try to enslave at one point but the...

Iin the US many folks of European descent have a very pervasive sense of guilt over the fact that over 400 years ago a small percentage of our ancestors bought native Africans from other Africans brought them to America and forced them work and frankly treated them very badly: worse than we can probably understand in this modern day. This is an accepted historical fact along with the deplorable treatment of the Native American tribes whom they did try to enslave at one point but the Europeans were unable to force them into slavery. This guilt can be very strong even though the ancestors of most modern day Americans immigrated to the US after the civil war and the abolition of slavery. Mainly because of this guilt many things are allowed to an African American versus for example if your grandparents were Italian or Swedish or Irish etc. Despite many attempts at legislating the issue away (affirmative action laws etc.) But since Mother Nature likes everything in balance we are currently seeing somewhat of a backlash (the pendulum swings both ways) in short many people of European Descent as well as our newest immigrants from many diverse cultures all over the Earth i.e. (China, S. America, Eastern Europe Mexico, Vietnam Etc.) are learning that being a citizen with rights also means that citizenship comes with responsibilities and obligations to society. One of these is to defend not only yourself but your family and neighbors. In order for this to happen laws like Sttand Your Ground must exist.

Audrey Dunham
Audrey Dunham
  • Nina Blackburn

Nina Blackburn. if, if if, if. that is the words you use. define if. My point to you if you are from America stop them saying GOD BLESS AMERICA. THE 10 COMMANDMENTS WILL BLESS AMERICA

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  • Nina Blackburn

No one broke into anyones house..a child was chased,shoot and killed!! That is the point not the right to bear arms and protect oneself and family!! Zimmermon was a bully and a racist!!

Mark Phillips
Mark Phillips

If one is in imminent fear of loss-of-consciousness or death during an assault or altercation, one has the natural (meta-legal) right to defend oneself, up to and including the use of lethal force of whatever sort. The reason I include fear of imminent loss-of-consciousness is because if one is fear that one might be rendered unconscious, and thus totally incapacitated, then the implication is that one would then be at the mercy of one assailant, and that that said assailant could *then* do...

If one is in imminent fear of loss-of-consciousness or death during an assault or altercation, one has the natural (meta-legal) right to defend oneself, up to and including the use of lethal force of whatever sort. The reason I include fear of imminent loss-of-consciousness is because if one is fear that one might be rendered unconscious, and thus totally incapacitated, then the implication is that one would then be at the mercy of one assailant, and that that said assailant could *then* do whatever they might wish--including, of course, kill you--and you'd be totally incapacitated to do anything about it. And, contrary to Dean Shamblen, Neil R. Friedman, and others commenting here, one not only has the natural (meta-legal, meta-constitutional) *right* to care a handgun, but there certainly can be contexts, contrary to Neil Friedman, in which carrying a handgun (whether open-carry or concealed) is, if not perfectly reasonable, then at least far from especially unreasonable. Now, 2nd Amendment rights can be (minimally) regulated, but certainly NOT outright *abrogated*, as far too many here seem cavalierly all-too-sanguine/complacent about! One not only should NOT be required to retreat (i.e., as distinguished from "standing one's ground"), oftentimes retreat is simply not (or no longer) a viable option. If a man is assaulted-&-battered, and comes to be in not-unreasonable fear of imminently being rendered unconscious, and thus incapacitated to further (be able to) defend his life-&/or-limb, then he has the right to use whatever force is necessary, up to and including lethal force, to repel the attack. Ethically & jurisprudentially speaking, this is virtually **axiomatic**. So, with all due respect to whomever, let's dial-down all the bleeding-heart whining, gnashing-of-teeth, and hand-wringing.

The entire Trayvon Martin & George Zimmerman affair is indeed tragic. IF Zimmerman's story is true, then the shooting is justified under the law. Notice that I said 'IF'. Ideally, we *need* witness corroboration (or perhaps contradiction) of Zimmerman's account. IF Zimmerman was assaulted from behind, IF he was battered to the ground, IF he was in fear of imminent incapacitation and thus possible **death** at the hands of his assailant, then, again, the shooting is justified. That's a lot of 'IFs'. Third-party EYEWITNESS testimony is thus not only to be much preferred, but VITAL here to get at the TRUTH.

All that said, however, the "Stand Your Ground" law is really virtually axiomatic. One might seek clarification and refinement of it in terms of application, but the law itself is virtually unassailable, being grounded in the natural right of self-defense.

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  • Mark Phillips

True what u say but that law does not entail.."STAKING FOR SPORT!!"

Lane Lombardia
Lane Lombardia
  • Mark Phillips

Neither does this case entail, "STAKING FOR SPORT!!" I presume you meant S T A L K I N G.

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  • Mark Phillips

Stop Stalking me please and look out for ur own family...with ur ideas u need to!!

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  • Mark Phillips

Lane Lombardia: There u r again Sir "Trolling" after me. We simply must stop meeting like this!!! Of Course i meant Stalking!!!

Lara Nunes
Lara Nunes
  • Mark Phillips

Lane Lombaria DO NOT FEED THE jewbaby TROLL

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  • Mark Phillips

I noticed that Mr. Lane Lombardia has removed his comments now...Thank you very much...although u do not intimidate me...just imagine though how Treyvon felt that night..bring followed for no reason!!!

Henrietta Fartzberg
Henrietta Fartzberg
  • Mark Phillips

there should be no laws which violate the 2nd amendment, we should have liberty to carry anything we may so desire to protect ourselves in this world possessed by crime. i for one would like access to surface to air missiles, and metal piercing hardware sufficient to take our armored personnel carriers, if obama keeps on destroying our military we face eminent invasion, from within,from the born again black muslim soft cells tracking our power station transformers, telephone relay stations,...

there should be no laws which violate the 2nd amendment, we should have liberty to carry anything we may so desire to protect ourselves in this world possessed by crime. i for one would like access to surface to air missiles, and metal piercing hardware sufficient to take our armored personnel carriers, if obama keeps on destroying our military we face eminent invasion, from within,from the born again black muslim soft cells tracking our power station transformers, telephone relay stations, water control stations, dams, bridges, runways, seeking an afroamerica, they are among us pretending to be american when they are against us, not nearly all, but a significant number willing to act against america, when the time comes up, rapidly approaching with our current commander and chief.

Henrietta Fartzberg
Henrietta Fartzberg
  • Mark Phillips

Lane Lombardia some people imagine they are being stalked if someone disagrees with with their views

Seán Smith
Seán Smith

I don't reside in America, but this so called law is an affront to human rights and dignity, it has to be repealed, good luck! :)

Ted Perry
Ted Perry
  • Seán Smith

if you don t live here then you don t have any say you dont know what its like to be a father of five raising you re kids with out help from anyone making 20.000 a year then have some punk come take it away so butt the hell out you use youre own judgement if you make a mistake you stand up and pay for it like a man don t hide be hind the laws read the bible it still stands at my home eye for an eye

Steve Hollander
Steve Hollander
  • Seán Smith

If you don.t live in America, better yet if you don't live in Florida, then stay out of the conversation.

Roy Rodriguez
Roy Rodriguez
  • Seán Smith

Ted Perry amen brother its all the out siders who seem to know whats best

Seán Smith
Seán Smith
  • Seán Smith

Ted Perry ,sorry to see that you don't approve of what i said terry and that is your entitlement but as for not knowing what it is like i've lived through the worse of the "troubles" that happened here in northern ireland,in constant fear of something happening to my loved ones,had a cousin shot dead but wanted those who commited this crime to be brought to justice,had a 45 put to my head but the gun jammed and i managed to escape,had a work friend shot at and thank God it was a flesh wound...

Ted Perry ,sorry to see that you don't approve of what i said terry and that is your entitlement but as for not knowing what it is like i've lived through the worse of the "troubles" that happened here in northern ireland,in constant fear of something happening to my loved ones,had a cousin shot dead but wanted those who commited this crime to be brought to justice,had a 45 put to my head but the gun jammed and i managed to escape,had a work friend shot at and thank God it was a flesh wound just because he was a Catholic,had bombs placed near my home and narrowly escaped bombs going off whilst i was shopping with my family,brought up my son through the bombings and bullets that reigned through over 40 years and was intimidated out of a job because of my republican views and NEVER ONCE did i wish any harm to anyone,or wish to CAUSE harm to anyoneas for using the bible to air your views did not our lord Jesus say that He had come to change the law?? and did He not also say "turn the other cheek" and "love thy neighbour" and as for me" butting my nose out" as you put it perhaps your goverment should take your view and" butt" out of Iraq immediatley and save the lives of the brave men of the Army and Air force stationed there.i wish you all the best Seán Smith :)

Irene Hunter
Irene Hunter
  • Seán Smith

Steve Hollander, maybe, your attitude should extend to work and oil ownership by Americans in Alberta.

Roxanne Knol
Roxanne Knol
  • Seán Smith

Steve Hollander and here I was thinking it was an OPEN conversation... no disrespect but why so hostile? freedom of speech was the main for gun support in the first place if I'm told right...

Ron Proffitt
Ron Proffitt
  • Seán Smith

I have many times in the 60/70 I lived in Monroe I wouldn't go down at nite unless I had a gun,,, Does Detroit have a Stand Your Ground Law??? If not it needs one with all the Crime there.

Joe Reid
Joe Reid
  • Seán Smith

If you don't live here then it's really none of your business......Whether or not you or your friendscan legally own a weapon is irrelevant.,..the criminals will ALWAYS have weapons.. I don't carry a weapon because I'm in fear of the other law abiding citizens such as my self that are responsible gun owners and sportsmen, I carry a weapon to protect myself and my family against people that don't abide by the law....

Neil Friedman
Neil Friedman

There is absolutely no justification to my mind for anyone to have to carry a handgun. in an gate of instant communication a Smart Phone with direct access number local police force and or neighborhood watch would be the most effective and efficient way to deal with any perceived or actual threat. While I sympathize, not empathize, with those who claim to know what was in the charts and minds of our"founding fathers" when they wrote the second amendment, I do not believe it gives anyone...

There is absolutely no justification to my mind for anyone to have to carry a handgun. in an gate of instant communication a Smart Phone with direct access number local police force and or neighborhood watch would be the most effective and efficient way to deal with any perceived or actual threat. While I sympathize, not empathize, with those who claim to know what was in the charts and minds of our"founding fathers" when they wrote the second amendment, I do not believe it gives anyone the "legal" or constitutional right to shoot before asking.

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  • Neil Friedman

Lou Rosgen Okay Lou So what you propose is that every man and women carry a loaded gun with them at all times? I just don't think this is a rational response to a very real problem. As I said I recognize that we all have the impulse to protect ourselves against a perceived or actual threat, but I fear that, if we carry your logic to its inevitable conclusion we would end up with more unnecessary takings of life like Trayvons Martins. Isn't there a better solution or are guns the only...

Lou Rosgen Okay Lou So what you propose is that every man and women carry a loaded gun with them at all times? I just don't think this is a rational response to a very real problem. As I said I recognize that we all have the impulse to protect ourselves against a perceived or actual threat, but I fear that, if we carry your logic to its inevitable conclusion we would end up with more unnecessary takings of life like Trayvons Martins. Isn't there a better solution or are guns the only answer? Its an interesting and perplexing conundrum or as Lou Abbot might say "Its a fine mess we have gotten ourselves into"

Stuart Stephen Strickler
Stuart Stephen Strickler
  • Neil Friedman

Lou Rosgen, I have carried a handgun for personal protection for many years. Trained law abiding citizens are not the problem. Police can not be everywhere, all the time. When seconds count, Police are only minutes away. You are correct!

Bob Mearns
Bob Mearns
  • Neil Friedman

Neil R Friedman you seem to forget the concept of "mutually assured destruction". When thugs fear a potential "mark"...that person no longer is a "mark". My grandmother was killed during a home invasion and she too had your pacifist mentality. I pray that you don't have to learn the truth the way that she did....

Neil Friedman
Neil Friedman
  • Neil Friedman

Stuart Stephen Strickler I think its far more complex then tat. There are so many stories about law abiding people who :"lose it" and use their guns to kill innocent none gun carrying individuals. I don't know what the answer is or if there even is one. George Zimmerman, may have been a alas abiding citizen one moment and quite unexpectedly he might have committed a crime and become a criminal? It could happen to any one. . .Guns might stop an assailant or escalate a situation. . .

Robert Bradford
Robert Bradford
  • Neil Friedman

Neil R Friedman I will have to be honest Neil in perfect world I would love for this to be the case. But where I am from the people that harmed the most are the people unprepared for whats coming in my community everyone has a gun and 95% of the time it is not registered and not legal. So if I follow your way of thinking I would more than likely be the one thats unprepared for a threat with a deadly weapon. I would love to be in a place where you are and not worry about the possibility of...

Neil R Friedman I will have to be honest Neil in perfect world I would love for this to be the case. But where I am from the people that harmed the most are the people unprepared for whats coming in my community everyone has a gun and 95% of the time it is not registered and not legal. So if I follow your way of thinking I would more than likely be the one thats unprepared for a threat with a deadly weapon. I would love to be in a place where you are and not worry about the possibility of being robbed or shot for being in the wrong place at the wrong time....but reality is bad things happen to good people sometimes.

Roy Rodriguez
Roy Rodriguez
  • Neil Friedman

les reed no but you buy more body armour from the us then we americans do, gee who ever would of thought good SUBJECTS would do that to them selves

Angel House
Angel House
  • Neil Friedman

Really, Neil?? Wow Your plice or neighborhood watch (by the way Zimmerman was just that) Respond Instantly? In time to Save your Whiny Butt? Dreamland Indeed - Yellow tape reality. No Thanks, I'm an American who's fighting to Restore the Constitution on which ALL Laws are Supposed to be Based.
Thank you Stuart, Well Said. Trained Law Abiding people are Not the problem. Additionally, it's become Unpopular to speak Truth to Power, so we Need to be armed against Gov't harming us now. TThe Police State is Real.

Emanuel C Apostolakis
Emanuel C Apostolakis
  • Neil Friedman

Neil R Friedman YOU NEED TO COME LIVE IN MY NEIHBORHOOD IF YOUR FAMILY DIDN'T CARRY YOU WOULD BE ALOAN, AS LONG AS IF SOME DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY YOUR LUNCH MONEY. BUY THE WAY WE DON'T HAVE THEM PROPLEMS ANY MORE NO ONE LIVEING IN OUR AREA IS DUME ENOUGHT TO WANT TO BE UNFRIENDLY" JUST A NEIHBOR".

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