Joan JC Pool
Joan JC Pool

No kill shelters sound great, no one that cares about animals wants them euthanized. But in reality, adoption to whoever can fill out a form and pay a fee may not be the best choice for the pets. In my experience no kill shelters do not always have good long term adoption history. Check on these adoptions one, then five years later. Most are not still with the person that adopted them. If they don't get adopted, then what? Living the rest of their lives in a shelter? And what about the...

No kill shelters sound great, no one that cares about animals wants them euthanized. But in reality, adoption to whoever can fill out a form and pay a fee may not be the best choice for the pets. In my experience no kill shelters do not always have good long term adoption history. Check on these adoptions one, then five years later. Most are not still with the person that adopted them. If they don't get adopted, then what? Living the rest of their lives in a shelter? And what about the animals they don't have room for. I believe there is only one solution: spay & neuter! Overpopulation is the cause. I know there is no perfect answer...........

Catherine M. Fisher
Catherine M. Fisher
  • Joan JC Pool

I volunteer for a no-kill cat rescue & you would not believe how strict our standards are. We frequently check up on our cats years & years down the line to make sure they're doing well with their owners (plus all our cats are microchipped so if they get taken to a shelter, we're notified). We don't let any cat out of our centers without being spayed or neutered & will let people know about low cost spay/neuter services so we can help stop unwanted kittens from being born.

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel
  • Joan JC Pool

Joan, that's not the way a no-kill or rescue usually works. Rescues and no-kills have very stringent rules about who can adopt their animals -- way more strict than a kill shelter, and most are followed for many years after. My daughter adopted from a no-kill, and to this day, she still gets calls from them. My parents adopted from a no kill, and guess what...they are on a first name basis and my parents know their number by heart, simply because they speak so often to one another about...

Joan, that's not the way a no-kill or rescue usually works. Rescues and no-kills have very stringent rules about who can adopt their animals -- way more strict than a kill shelter, and most are followed for many years after. My daughter adopted from a no-kill, and to this day, she still gets calls from them. My parents adopted from a no kill, and guess what...they are on a first name basis and my parents know their number by heart, simply because they speak so often to one another about their dogs. It's a fallacy created by shelters that don't want to do the work to get them adopted. I fostered four pups and when I expressed a possible situation wherein the pups might be put in danger, if given to a particular party, the person was IMMEDIATELY refused adoption ability. Rescues and no-kills are almost always stricter than any shelters I know, and believe me, I know A LOT OF SHELTERS! .

Pamela Selwyn
Pamela Selwyn
  • Joan JC Pool

Germany only has no-kill shelters. Occasionally people do bring dogs or cats back, which is sad. But are they better off dead?

Arlene Dehmer
Arlene Dehmer
  • Joan JC Pool

I HELPED IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE TO SET UP NOAH'S ARK ANIMAL SANCTUARY IN ROCKFORD, IL AROUND 1990 - IT'S A NON-KILL SHELTER. ON AVERAGE WE ADOPTED ABOUT 27 DOGS PER MONTH AND ABOUT 25 CATS. SELDOM DID THEY EVER COME BACK. THE ORGANIZATION WAS 501-C, AND WE SURVIVED STRICTLY BY CONTRIBUTIONS AND THE FEE FOR ADOPTION, PLUS WE HAD A SMALL SUPPLY OF SUPER FOOD AND ACCESSORIES.

Arlene Dehmer
Arlene Dehmer
  • Joan JC Pool

(TO CONTINUE) IF MY MEMORY IS RIGHT, WE ONLY HAD TO HAVE ONE GERMAN SHEPHERD PUPPY PUT TO SLEEP DUE TO HIS BAD HIPS THAT WOULD ONLY GET WORSE AS HE GREW.

Arlene Dehmer
Arlene Dehmer
  • Joan JC Pool

IF ANY DOGS OR CATS STAYED TOO LONG, WE HAD A GENTLEMAN WHO HAD A FARM IN LEAF RIVER & HE WOULD COME IN AND ADOPT THE LONG TERM PETS. WE ALSO HAD A

Arlene Dehmer
Arlene Dehmer
  • Joan JC Pool

A SWEET LITTLE VOLUNTEER, KNOWN AS THE CAT LADY, WHO WOULD TAKE KITTIES WHO WERE LONG TERM , AND TO THIS DAY SHE HAS APPROXIMATELY 60 CATS AND A S[ECIAL VERY LARGE ROOM WAS ADDED TO THIS HOME FOR HER CATS UNTIL THEY'RE ADOPTED. WE WERE STRICTLY NON-KILL, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS POSSIBLE TO HAVE A "NON KILL" SHELTER WHICH PETA CAN DO WITH THE RIGHT MEMBERS & PEOPLE WHO ARE TRULY ANIMAL LOVERS WHO WILL DO WHATEVER THEY CAN TO SAVE THE INNOCENT PET'S LIFE. I'M VERY, VERY...

A SWEET LITTLE VOLUNTEER, KNOWN AS THE CAT LADY, WHO WOULD TAKE KITTIES WHO WERE LONG TERM , AND TO THIS DAY SHE HAS APPROXIMATELY 60 CATS AND A S[ECIAL VERY LARGE ROOM WAS ADDED TO THIS HOME FOR HER CATS UNTIL THEY'RE ADOPTED. WE WERE STRICTLY NON-KILL, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS POSSIBLE TO HAVE A "NON KILL" SHELTER WHICH PETA CAN DO WITH THE RIGHT MEMBERS & PEOPLE WHO ARE TRULY ANIMAL LOVERS WHO WILL DO WHATEVER THEY CAN TO SAVE THE INNOCENT PET'S LIFE. I'M VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED IN PETA AND HOPE AND PRAY THAT THEY WIL LWAKE UP ASAP..AND STOP MURDERING PRECIOUS ANIMALS WHO CANNOT SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.

Rick A Sanders
Rick A Sanders
  • Joan JC Pool

Thank God for people like YOU!..<3

Dell Roberson
Dell Roberson
  • Joan JC Pool

Joan, if no-kill shelters made restrictions on the adopters more stringent then that might be a better solution and could go to better homes. The overpopulation thing is a myth read this article http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?cat=8 and not pointed towards you but this is the response to what I wrote to someone else IN LAYMAN TERMS FOR THE ONES THAT DON'T GET IT HSUS , ASCPA, PETA, AND THE SPCA AND MORE ALL GET KICKBACKS FROM SO CALLED CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS (THE SUCKERS) AND THEN...

Joan, if no-kill shelters made restrictions on the adopters more stringent then that might be a better solution and could go to better homes. The overpopulation thing is a myth read this article http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?cat=8 and not pointed towards you but this is the response to what I wrote to someone else IN LAYMAN TERMS FOR THE ONES THAT DON'T GET IT HSUS , ASCPA, PETA, AND THE SPCA AND MORE ALL GET KICKBACKS FROM SO CALLED CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS (THE SUCKERS) AND THEN ALSO OTHER INTEREST PARTY GROUPS LIKE THE COMMERCIAL DOG FOOD COMPANIES , IAMS, EUKANUBA, PURINA, ETC, WHICH ARE BASICALLY THANKING THE KILL SHELTERS FOR ALL PRODUCT THAT THEY GIVE THEM , PRODUCT BEING ALL THE DEAD DOGS AND CATS THEY PROVIDE THEM WITH TO PUT IN YOUR DOG FOOD, AND ANYTHING ELSE THEY CAN GET INTO THE RENDERING PLANT ALONG WITH ALL THE RESIDUE THAT COMES FROM TELAZOL, KETAMINE , PROPOFOL, MEDETOMIDINE, XYLAIZINE, AND SOME FORM OF A BARBITURATE , TAKE YOUR PICK , READ ABOUT RENDERING

Nyrobi McIntire
Nyrobi McIntire

Animals lives are just as important as human ones! MURDERERS

Jana Lybarger
Jana Lybarger

PETA may not listen because they're so warped but we must make our voices heard. They need to stop playacting like they're the greatest thing to happen to animalkind when their methods are questionable at best and unethical at worst. PETA, do something about your bad reputation.

Peter Souza
Peter Souza

Will not sign this. we are very sure that the animals that were euthanized were either ill, or not rehomable. u ever try to rehabilate a pitbull thats been trained to kill? u cant even get insurance! go after the ins comps and the dog fighting!

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel
  • Peter Souza

BULL! Of course they can be rehabilitated. Look on youtube, you will see dozens of videos of this occurring. The second people stop buying from insurance companies that do that, is the second they will stop that too.

Sandra Crabtree Newell
Sandra Crabtree Newell

I will not sign. I agree with a no kill policy however what happens when those dogs that are up for adoption aren't adopted. Soon there is such a glut of animals waiting for a forever home and it just never comes. If those who have pets would make sure their pets were spay or neutered we wouldn't have to worry.

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel
  • Sandra Crabtree Newell

I know of an animal that stayed at a shelter for a yr. Then, it was adopted to the most loving lady alive. Was it worth that year? That dog seemed to think so. I know many times where that has occurred. Many rescues and shelters don't even use cages anymore. There are many that allow free roam of the animals. It's not like it used to be, but Peta and others want to claim it that way.

Maggie Schafer
Maggie Schafer

I WILL NOT SIGN THIS! You should do your research - look at the pictures of some of the animals that are give to PETA! No faces, no eyes, horrible tumors - ravaged with disease, etc. These are the animals that cannot be helped. DO SOME RESEARCH!

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel
  • Maggie Schafer

I have Maggie...watch closely: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/douglas-anthony-cooper/peta-so-many-pets-so-litt_b_1607518.html?just_reloaded=1 Read it...the numbers and reality show different. Notice how many times the paper reads, "HEALTHY ADOPTABLE ANIMALS"?

Georgina Forester
Georgina Forester

I Have donated to PETA - I was not aware that the organization euthanizes animals they get. What HYPOCRISY! where is the humaness in euthanizing?? I also contribute to another shelter that is NO KILL. Will have to reconsider about further donations to PETA.

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel
  • Georgina Forester

I wasn't aware either, and if I recall correctly, my mom told me that she gave my dog to Peta, a long time ago. She stated, "where it would surely find a home." Now, I feel bad, knowing the odds of that occurring were practically nil to none.

Gilbert-Joseph Hache-Gallant

They advocate human treatment of animals, sometimes these choices are difficult. God bless all creatures.

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel
  • Gilbert-Joseph Hache-Gallant

Last I heard, Peta wasn't God and didn't get to choose their fate.

Peter Souza
Peter Souza

Doesnt anybody get that Peta always gets the dogs that are the most messed up that nobody else can take? it isnt rocket science.

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel
  • Peter Souza

BULL Peter. they took numerous animals that could have been adopted, from animal shelters that were perfectly healthy and they murdered them. That went all over the internet, when it occurred. Shall I pull up the links for you?

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel
  • Peter Souza

Peter, according to the sheriff I spoke to, the animals they gave to peta were "HEALTHY AND ADOPTABLE." But, they were sent there to be EUTH'd.

Jennifer Bark
Jennifer Bark
  • Peter Souza

So, why even take them in, if PETA only kills them? What is the point?!? The damaged dogs can be put down by a local vet or pound - at least they have better save rates than a group that claims to be advocates for these animals. PETA is a wolf in sheep's clothing and you need wake yourself up to that facts by doing your own research instead of this blind, nonsensical refusal of the unfortunate truth.

Peter Souza
Peter Souza

If You Are Zero Kill Than you run out of room too fast and u hav to turn too many away, like the one in shaftsbury vermont. grow up ppl, leave peta alone.

Alex Kessler Affonso
Alex Kessler Affonso
  • Peter Souza

Why do they even bother rescuing them, then? And how can they demand people to stop eating meat while they are killing all these animals? There is a solution but of course it's not easy or quick. And even if there isn't a solution, we have to keep trying our best to find one. Killing all these animals is not trying hard, really!

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel
  • Peter Souza

Peter,. that's also a falsehood. I know of many no kill that never run out of room, because they immediately set up foster cares and housing for the animals, before they even take them on. The animals go to GREAT homes within days of being taken in. You've been SERIOUSLY DUPED.

Jennifer Bark
Jennifer Bark
  • Peter Souza

Yes, Peter, you have been duped. This is a quote from the president of PETA, Ingrid Newkirk: "I would go to work early, before anyone got there, and I would just kill the animals myself. Because I couldn't stand to let them go through (other workers abusing the animals). I must have killed a thousand of them, sometimes dozens every day." Facts are irrefutable: PETA has euthanized 27,751 animals since 1998, this statistic coming from records kept by the Virginia Department of Agriculture and...

Yes, Peter, you have been duped. This is a quote from the president of PETA, Ingrid Newkirk: "I would go to work early, before anyone got there, and I would just kill the animals myself. Because I couldn't stand to let them go through (other workers abusing the animals). I must have killed a thousand of them, sometimes dozens every day." Facts are irrefutable: PETA has euthanized 27,751 animals since 1998, this statistic coming from records kept by the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services - you can go to them to confirm their validity. Is Shaftsbury, Vermont the Humane Society? Any shelter that has gone with the No Kill model has been able to save between 90 & 98% of their intake. At the conference this weekend, pix were taken at the shelters that complained how overfull they were and they had ROOMS of empty kennels. It can be done - do you really prefer the alternative??

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