Raffaella Rossato
Raffaella Rossato

I volunteer for a no kill shelter and do you know how many of our cats had to be euthanised last year? Zero. They arrive in bad shape according to PETA...yeah yeah, sure. Do you know what's their problem? Adoptions cost time and efforts...and it's not under the spotlight. We are a small self funded group in Italy and we have 100 to 150 cats adopted every year. PETA is being lazy and very cruel.

Jonas Spartali
Jonas Spartali
  • Raffaella Rossato

and how many do you turn away every year? all these healthy pets needs a place to stay first before you can make it a no-kill shelter, but there is no place that big in the world to house all these pets that humans abandon/abuse/neglect, be realistic and start cursing the people that have misstreated these animals in the first place instead of having a go at PETA! 150 cats pr year is less than 0.05% of the cats that needs help in Rome alone.

Oguer Leperchaun
Oguer Leperchaun
  • Raffaella Rossato

I also volunteer at a no kill shelter here in Chihuahua Mexico. I am a dog behaviour specialist and i agree with Raffaella, there is no way to justify killing an animal. Most of these sick or ill animals will make a full recovery in less than a year and i speak from experience. It takes time, money, patience and a lot of guts to run a rehabilitation for most animals, but it CAN be done and its worth a shot rather than just giving up on them right away and killing them, beacouse thats what...

I also volunteer at a no kill shelter here in Chihuahua Mexico. I am a dog behaviour specialist and i agree with Raffaella, there is no way to justify killing an animal. Most of these sick or ill animals will make a full recovery in less than a year and i speak from experience. It takes time, money, patience and a lot of guts to run a rehabilitation for most animals, but it CAN be done and its worth a shot rather than just giving up on them right away and killing them, beacouse thats what that is, call it what you want "euthanise", "putting to sleep" but its nothing more than killing.

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel
  • Raffaella Rossato

Jonas, how many does Peta turn away? Let's see..none. How many do they kill? Let's see: Shall we? Dogs and Cats Killed by PETA
Year Received† Trans-
ferred Adopted Killed
2012 1,843 130 19 1.03% 1,647 89.4%
2011 1,992 34 24 1.21% 1,911 95.9%
2010 2,345 63 44 1.86% 2,200 93.8%
2009 2,366 31 8 0.34% 2,301 97.3%
2008 2,216 34 7 0.32% 2,124 95.8%
2007 1,997 35 17 0.85% 1,815 90.9%
2006 3,061 46 12 0.39% 2,981 97.4%
2005 2,165 69 146 6.74% 1,946 ...

Jonas, how many does Peta turn away? Let's see..none. How many do they kill? Let's see: Shall we? Dogs and Cats Killed by PETA
Year Received† Trans-
ferred Adopted Killed
2012 1,843 130 19 1.03% 1,647 89.4%
2011 1,992 34 24 1.21% 1,911 95.9%
2010 2,345 63 44 1.86% 2,200 93.8%
2009 2,366 31 8 0.34% 2,301 97.3%
2008 2,216 34 7 0.32% 2,124 95.8%
2007 1,997 35 17 0.85% 1,815 90.9%
2006 3,061 46 12 0.39% 2,981 97.4%
2005 2,165 69 146 6.74% 1,946 89.9%
2004 2,655 1 361 13.60% 2,278 85.8%
2003 2,224 1 312 14.03% 1,911 85.9%
2002 2,680 2 382 14.25% 2,298 85.7%
2001 2,685 14 703 26.18% 1,944 72.4%
2000 2,681 28 624 23.27% 2,029 75.7%
1999 1,805 91 386 21.39% 1,328 73.6%
1998* 943 125 133 14.10% 685 72.6%
Total 33,658 704 3,178 9.92% 29,398 92.40%
* figures represent the second half of 1998 only
† Other than spay/neuter animals
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Joan JC Pool
Joan JC Pool

No kill shelters sound great, no one that cares about animals wants them euthanized. But in reality, adoption to whoever can fill out a form and pay a fee may not be the best choice for the pets. In my experience no kill shelters do not always have good long term adoption history. Check on these adoptions one, then five years later. Most are not still with the person that adopted them. If they don't get adopted, then what? Living the rest of their lives in a shelter? And what about the...

No kill shelters sound great, no one that cares about animals wants them euthanized. But in reality, adoption to whoever can fill out a form and pay a fee may not be the best choice for the pets. In my experience no kill shelters do not always have good long term adoption history. Check on these adoptions one, then five years later. Most are not still with the person that adopted them. If they don't get adopted, then what? Living the rest of their lives in a shelter? And what about the animals they don't have room for. I believe there is only one solution: spay & neuter! Overpopulation is the cause. I know there is no perfect answer...........

Catherine M. Fisher
Catherine M. Fisher
  • Joan JC Pool

I volunteer for a no-kill cat rescue & you would not believe how strict our standards are. We frequently check up on our cats years & years down the line to make sure they're doing well with their owners (plus all our cats are microchipped so if they get taken to a shelter, we're notified). We don't let any cat out of our centers without being spayed or neutered & will let people know about low cost spay/neuter services so we can help stop unwanted kittens from being born.

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel
  • Joan JC Pool

Joan, that's not the way a no-kill or rescue usually works. Rescues and no-kills have very stringent rules about who can adopt their animals -- way more strict than a kill shelter, and most are followed for many years after. My daughter adopted from a no-kill, and to this day, she still gets calls from them. My parents adopted from a no kill, and guess what...they are on a first name basis and my parents know their number by heart, simply because they speak so often to one another about...

Joan, that's not the way a no-kill or rescue usually works. Rescues and no-kills have very stringent rules about who can adopt their animals -- way more strict than a kill shelter, and most are followed for many years after. My daughter adopted from a no-kill, and to this day, she still gets calls from them. My parents adopted from a no kill, and guess what...they are on a first name basis and my parents know their number by heart, simply because they speak so often to one another about their dogs. It's a fallacy created by shelters that don't want to do the work to get them adopted. I fostered four pups and when I expressed a possible situation wherein the pups might be put in danger, if given to a particular party, the person was IMMEDIATELY refused adoption ability. Rescues and no-kills are almost always stricter than any shelters I know, and believe me, I know A LOT OF SHELTERS! .

Pamela Selwyn
Pamela Selwyn
  • Joan JC Pool

Germany only has no-kill shelters. Occasionally people do bring dogs or cats back, which is sad. But are they better off dead?

Arlene Dehmer
Arlene Dehmer
  • Joan JC Pool

I HELPED IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE TO SET UP NOAH'S ARK ANIMAL SANCTUARY IN ROCKFORD, IL AROUND 1990 - IT'S A NON-KILL SHELTER. ON AVERAGE WE ADOPTED ABOUT 27 DOGS PER MONTH AND ABOUT 25 CATS. SELDOM DID THEY EVER COME BACK. THE ORGANIZATION WAS 501-C, AND WE SURVIVED STRICTLY BY CONTRIBUTIONS AND THE FEE FOR ADOPTION, PLUS WE HAD A SMALL SUPPLY OF SUPER FOOD AND ACCESSORIES.

Arlene Dehmer
Arlene Dehmer
  • Joan JC Pool

(TO CONTINUE) IF MY MEMORY IS RIGHT, WE ONLY HAD TO HAVE ONE GERMAN SHEPHERD PUPPY PUT TO SLEEP DUE TO HIS BAD HIPS THAT WOULD ONLY GET WORSE AS HE GREW.

Arlene Dehmer
Arlene Dehmer
  • Joan JC Pool

IF ANY DOGS OR CATS STAYED TOO LONG, WE HAD A GENTLEMAN WHO HAD A FARM IN LEAF RIVER & HE WOULD COME IN AND ADOPT THE LONG TERM PETS. WE ALSO HAD A

Arlene Dehmer
Arlene Dehmer
  • Joan JC Pool

A SWEET LITTLE VOLUNTEER, KNOWN AS THE CAT LADY, WHO WOULD TAKE KITTIES WHO WERE LONG TERM , AND TO THIS DAY SHE HAS APPROXIMATELY 60 CATS AND A S[ECIAL VERY LARGE ROOM WAS ADDED TO THIS HOME FOR HER CATS UNTIL THEY'RE ADOPTED. WE WERE STRICTLY NON-KILL, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS POSSIBLE TO HAVE A "NON KILL" SHELTER WHICH PETA CAN DO WITH THE RIGHT MEMBERS & PEOPLE WHO ARE TRULY ANIMAL LOVERS WHO WILL DO WHATEVER THEY CAN TO SAVE THE INNOCENT PET'S LIFE. I'M VERY, VERY...

A SWEET LITTLE VOLUNTEER, KNOWN AS THE CAT LADY, WHO WOULD TAKE KITTIES WHO WERE LONG TERM , AND TO THIS DAY SHE HAS APPROXIMATELY 60 CATS AND A S[ECIAL VERY LARGE ROOM WAS ADDED TO THIS HOME FOR HER CATS UNTIL THEY'RE ADOPTED. WE WERE STRICTLY NON-KILL, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS POSSIBLE TO HAVE A "NON KILL" SHELTER WHICH PETA CAN DO WITH THE RIGHT MEMBERS & PEOPLE WHO ARE TRULY ANIMAL LOVERS WHO WILL DO WHATEVER THEY CAN TO SAVE THE INNOCENT PET'S LIFE. I'M VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED IN PETA AND HOPE AND PRAY THAT THEY WIL LWAKE UP ASAP..AND STOP MURDERING PRECIOUS ANIMALS WHO CANNOT SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.

Rick A Sanders
Rick A Sanders
  • Joan JC Pool

Thank God for people like YOU!..<3

Dell Roberson
Dell Roberson
  • Joan JC Pool

Joan, if no-kill shelters made restrictions on the adopters more stringent then that might be a better solution and could go to better homes. The overpopulation thing is a myth read this article http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?cat=8 and not pointed towards you but this is the response to what I wrote to someone else IN LAYMAN TERMS FOR THE ONES THAT DON'T GET IT HSUS , ASCPA, PETA, AND THE SPCA AND MORE ALL GET KICKBACKS FROM SO CALLED CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS (THE SUCKERS) AND THEN...

Joan, if no-kill shelters made restrictions on the adopters more stringent then that might be a better solution and could go to better homes. The overpopulation thing is a myth read this article http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?cat=8 and not pointed towards you but this is the response to what I wrote to someone else IN LAYMAN TERMS FOR THE ONES THAT DON'T GET IT HSUS , ASCPA, PETA, AND THE SPCA AND MORE ALL GET KICKBACKS FROM SO CALLED CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS (THE SUCKERS) AND THEN ALSO OTHER INTEREST PARTY GROUPS LIKE THE COMMERCIAL DOG FOOD COMPANIES , IAMS, EUKANUBA, PURINA, ETC, WHICH ARE BASICALLY THANKING THE KILL SHELTERS FOR ALL PRODUCT THAT THEY GIVE THEM , PRODUCT BEING ALL THE DEAD DOGS AND CATS THEY PROVIDE THEM WITH TO PUT IN YOUR DOG FOOD, AND ANYTHING ELSE THEY CAN GET INTO THE RENDERING PLANT ALONG WITH ALL THE RESIDUE THAT COMES FROM TELAZOL, KETAMINE , PROPOFOL, MEDETOMIDINE, XYLAIZINE, AND SOME FORM OF A BARBITURATE , TAKE YOUR PICK , READ ABOUT RENDERING

Gwen Gourley Skoglund
Gwen Gourley Skoglund

I will volunteer for a no kill shelter! I will help any way I can.

Maria Furman
Maria Furman
  • Gwen Gourley Skoglund

and why don't you?

Sandy Mitchell Gentry
Sandy Mitchell Gentry

I used to be a supporter of PETA then I began to read about some of their practices. If you're for the ethical treatment of animals it should be all, not just the ones you feel are worthy.

Vania-Vasil Mehandjiyska

progress of a country can be seen from the treatment of animals...!!!!

June Massey
June Massey

It is no animal lovers desire to euthanase,BUT many,many dogs end up living a terrible life in shelters and all over the world end up with "hoarders" who cannot look after them and after years of suffering have to be euthanised in the end,only last month we had another bad shelter closed & animals having to be Euthanised because of neglect,they too were a "no kill shelter"!! I have been involved in welfare & fostered & adopted MANY dogs & cats,I know what a bottomless pit it is- PETA is not wrong!

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel
  • June Massey

Their kill rates are ASTRONOMICAL, so much so that they purchased a large sized restaurant refrigerator to house all the dead animals, until they're picked up, correct? That's what I read on the internet. Shall I pull up the link? yes, there are hoarders, so we make a new law that prevents anyone from taking more than a certain number of animals into their own domain. No shelter can release more than a certain number to any shelter,until such shelter relinquishes a min number of animals to homes or fosters.

Jennifer Bark
Jennifer Bark
  • June Massey

PETA is wrong, June. Any shelter animal would choose life over death, if given the choice. PETA uses the excuse of "hoarders" for any rescue that wants to make a difference. That's B.S. 90% of the time. The minority of hoarders shouldn't mean that the majority of healthy dogs/cats need to die! If we follow your logic, then children need to be killed b/c there are plenty of abusers and neglectful parents out there. Death is simple moral issue: if it's a healthy life, it shouldn't be...

PETA is wrong, June. Any shelter animal would choose life over death, if given the choice. PETA uses the excuse of "hoarders" for any rescue that wants to make a difference. That's B.S. 90% of the time. The minority of hoarders shouldn't mean that the majority of healthy dogs/cats need to die! If we follow your logic, then children need to be killed b/c there are plenty of abusers and neglectful parents out there. Death is simple moral issue: if it's a healthy life, it shouldn't be extinguished based on the "chance" that it might end up in a bad situation (ie, hoarder/shelter) - the majority of lives end up in good situations and the majority of people out there will do the right thing.

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel
  • June Massey

Are you aware, June, that a couple of years ago, Peta took animals out of a shelter (adoptable, healthy animals, according to the shelter,) and put them to sleep? That's what I read on the internet. Do you think that's acceptable? If they had stayed, they may have gotten a home. Instead, they were euth'd that next day (if I recall correctly, regarding the time, too). Do you think that's ok; to KILL a perfectly healthy animal that might have gotten a home? I don't think they were in IMMEDIATE...

Are you aware, June, that a couple of years ago, Peta took animals out of a shelter (adoptable, healthy animals, according to the shelter,) and put them to sleep? That's what I read on the internet. Do you think that's acceptable? If they had stayed, they may have gotten a home. Instead, they were euth'd that next day (if I recall correctly, regarding the time, too). Do you think that's ok; to KILL a perfectly healthy animal that might have gotten a home? I don't think they were in IMMEDIATE danger of being euth'd, based on the way it was put across on the internet. They had the same possible chance of being adopted as any of the others. But, once Peta took them, that 'chance' ended. In my opinion, that is not acceptable!

Peter Souza
Peter Souza

Blocking you now Rana, as you seriuosly have some problems. So I can continue my important work that i am doing to stop the extinction of Americas Wolves. Please, go rescue some dogs and cats, we all commend you wholeheartedly, but do not attack us.

Aunty Ann
Aunty Ann
  • Peter Souza

please stop hurting innocent animals

Kallya Georgiades
Kallya Georgiades
  • Peter Souza

Peter, truth hurts, doesn't it?? You don't have to block Rana in order to continue with your "important" work that you are doing to stop the extinction of American Wolves, which by the way is out of your hands. So stop the hypocrisy and face the truth such as is. PETA is the worst offender in killing animals especially because they advocate saving animals. It is sickening.

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel

They say there aren't enough homes for animals. This is a FALSEHOOD that has been passed around year after year. Take a look at the numbers yourselves: According to the stats listed on US CENSUS RECORDS, table 2-1
Occupied
housing units
105,842,000 Total Number of Households in U.S.

Tenure

72,238,000 Owner occupied
68.3 Percent of all occupied
33,604,000 Renter occupied

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel
  • Angelic Angel

What does this mean? According to PETA, we don't have enough houses to take in animals, because 6 - 8,000,000 animals each year, walk into shelters. Really? According to the above numbers, we have PLENTY OF HOMES AVAILABLE! Start finding them and filling them with the love that only animals can bring, PETA! It's time to stop using the old EXCUSES and really get to work, like other shelters and rescues. By the way, the numbers I used are from 2010 (last stats recorded) and even more homes and people exist now. So, GET TO WORK, for REAL!

Peter Souza
Peter Souza
  • Angelic Angel

wtf do these numbers have to do with anything? not everyone on your census wants a dog, can afford a dog, particularly a dog with God knows what issues! You are seriously in la la land!

Peter Souza
Peter Souza

Doesnt anybody get that Peta always gets the dogs that are the most messed up that nobody else can take? it isnt rocket science.

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel
  • Peter Souza

BULL Peter. they took numerous animals that could have been adopted, from animal shelters that were perfectly healthy and they murdered them. That went all over the internet, when it occurred. Shall I pull up the links for you?

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel
  • Peter Souza

Peter, according to the sheriff I spoke to, the animals they gave to peta were "HEALTHY AND ADOPTABLE." But, they were sent there to be EUTH'd.

Jennifer Bark
Jennifer Bark
  • Peter Souza

So, why even take them in, if PETA only kills them? What is the point?!? The damaged dogs can be put down by a local vet or pound - at least they have better save rates than a group that claims to be advocates for these animals. PETA is a wolf in sheep's clothing and you need wake yourself up to that facts by doing your own research instead of this blind, nonsensical refusal of the unfortunate truth.

Peter Souza
Peter Souza

If You Are Zero Kill Than you run out of room too fast and u hav to turn too many away, like the one in shaftsbury vermont. grow up ppl, leave peta alone.

Alex Kessler Affonso
Alex Kessler Affonso
  • Peter Souza

Why do they even bother rescuing them, then? And how can they demand people to stop eating meat while they are killing all these animals? There is a solution but of course it's not easy or quick. And even if there isn't a solution, we have to keep trying our best to find one. Killing all these animals is not trying hard, really!

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel
  • Peter Souza

Peter,. that's also a falsehood. I know of many no kill that never run out of room, because they immediately set up foster cares and housing for the animals, before they even take them on. The animals go to GREAT homes within days of being taken in. You've been SERIOUSLY DUPED.

Jennifer Bark
Jennifer Bark
  • Peter Souza

Yes, Peter, you have been duped. This is a quote from the president of PETA, Ingrid Newkirk: "I would go to work early, before anyone got there, and I would just kill the animals myself. Because I couldn't stand to let them go through (other workers abusing the animals). I must have killed a thousand of them, sometimes dozens every day." Facts are irrefutable: PETA has euthanized 27,751 animals since 1998, this statistic coming from records kept by the Virginia Department of Agriculture and...

Yes, Peter, you have been duped. This is a quote from the president of PETA, Ingrid Newkirk: "I would go to work early, before anyone got there, and I would just kill the animals myself. Because I couldn't stand to let them go through (other workers abusing the animals). I must have killed a thousand of them, sometimes dozens every day." Facts are irrefutable: PETA has euthanized 27,751 animals since 1998, this statistic coming from records kept by the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services - you can go to them to confirm their validity. Is Shaftsbury, Vermont the Humane Society? Any shelter that has gone with the No Kill model has been able to save between 90 & 98% of their intake. At the conference this weekend, pix were taken at the shelters that complained how overfull they were and they had ROOMS of empty kennels. It can be done - do you really prefer the alternative??

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