Raffaella Rossato
Raffaella Rossato

I volunteer for a no kill shelter and do you know how many of our cats had to be euthanised last year? Zero. They arrive in bad shape according to PETA...yeah yeah, sure. Do you know what's their problem? Adoptions cost time and efforts...and it's not under the spotlight. We are a small self funded group in Italy and we have 100 to 150 cats adopted every year. PETA is being lazy and very cruel.

Jonas Spartali
Jonas Spartali
  • Raffaella Rossato

and how many do you turn away every year? all these healthy pets needs a place to stay first before you can make it a no-kill shelter, but there is no place that big in the world to house all these pets that humans abandon/abuse/neglect, be realistic and start cursing the people that have misstreated these animals in the first place instead of having a go at PETA! 150 cats pr year is less than 0.05% of the cats that needs help in Rome alone.

Oguer Leperchaun
Oguer Leperchaun
  • Raffaella Rossato

I also volunteer at a no kill shelter here in Chihuahua Mexico. I am a dog behaviour specialist and i agree with Raffaella, there is no way to justify killing an animal. Most of these sick or ill animals will make a full recovery in less than a year and i speak from experience. It takes time, money, patience and a lot of guts to run a rehabilitation for most animals, but it CAN be done and its worth a shot rather than just giving up on them right away and killing them, beacouse thats what...

I also volunteer at a no kill shelter here in Chihuahua Mexico. I am a dog behaviour specialist and i agree with Raffaella, there is no way to justify killing an animal. Most of these sick or ill animals will make a full recovery in less than a year and i speak from experience. It takes time, money, patience and a lot of guts to run a rehabilitation for most animals, but it CAN be done and its worth a shot rather than just giving up on them right away and killing them, beacouse thats what that is, call it what you want "euthanise", "putting to sleep" but its nothing more than killing.

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel
  • Raffaella Rossato

Jonas, how many does Peta turn away? Let's see..none. How many do they kill? Let's see: Shall we? Dogs and Cats Killed by PETA
Year Received† Trans-
ferred Adopted Killed
2012 1,843 130 19 1.03% 1,647 89.4%
2011 1,992 34 24 1.21% 1,911 95.9%
2010 2,345 63 44 1.86% 2,200 93.8%
2009 2,366 31 8 0.34% 2,301 97.3%
2008 2,216 34 7 0.32% 2,124 95.8%
2007 1,997 35 17 0.85% 1,815 90.9%
2006 3,061 46 12 0.39% 2,981 97.4%
2005 2,165 69 146 6.74% 1,946 ...

Jonas, how many does Peta turn away? Let's see..none. How many do they kill? Let's see: Shall we? Dogs and Cats Killed by PETA
Year Received† Trans-
ferred Adopted Killed
2012 1,843 130 19 1.03% 1,647 89.4%
2011 1,992 34 24 1.21% 1,911 95.9%
2010 2,345 63 44 1.86% 2,200 93.8%
2009 2,366 31 8 0.34% 2,301 97.3%
2008 2,216 34 7 0.32% 2,124 95.8%
2007 1,997 35 17 0.85% 1,815 90.9%
2006 3,061 46 12 0.39% 2,981 97.4%
2005 2,165 69 146 6.74% 1,946 89.9%
2004 2,655 1 361 13.60% 2,278 85.8%
2003 2,224 1 312 14.03% 1,911 85.9%
2002 2,680 2 382 14.25% 2,298 85.7%
2001 2,685 14 703 26.18% 1,944 72.4%
2000 2,681 28 624 23.27% 2,029 75.7%
1999 1,805 91 386 21.39% 1,328 73.6%
1998* 943 125 133 14.10% 685 72.6%
Total 33,658 704 3,178 9.92% 29,398 92.40%
* figures represent the second half of 1998 only
† Other than spay/neuter animals
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Joan JC Pool
Joan JC Pool

No kill shelters sound great, no one that cares about animals wants them euthanized. But in reality, adoption to whoever can fill out a form and pay a fee may not be the best choice for the pets. In my experience no kill shelters do not always have good long term adoption history. Check on these adoptions one, then five years later. Most are not still with the person that adopted them. If they don't get adopted, then what? Living the rest of their lives in a shelter? And what about the...

No kill shelters sound great, no one that cares about animals wants them euthanized. But in reality, adoption to whoever can fill out a form and pay a fee may not be the best choice for the pets. In my experience no kill shelters do not always have good long term adoption history. Check on these adoptions one, then five years later. Most are not still with the person that adopted them. If they don't get adopted, then what? Living the rest of their lives in a shelter? And what about the animals they don't have room for. I believe there is only one solution: spay & neuter! Overpopulation is the cause. I know there is no perfect answer...........

Catherine M. Fisher
Catherine M. Fisher
  • Joan JC Pool

I volunteer for a no-kill cat rescue & you would not believe how strict our standards are. We frequently check up on our cats years & years down the line to make sure they're doing well with their owners (plus all our cats are microchipped so if they get taken to a shelter, we're notified). We don't let any cat out of our centers without being spayed or neutered & will let people know about low cost spay/neuter services so we can help stop unwanted kittens from being born.

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel
  • Joan JC Pool

Joan, that's not the way a no-kill or rescue usually works. Rescues and no-kills have very stringent rules about who can adopt their animals -- way more strict than a kill shelter, and most are followed for many years after. My daughter adopted from a no-kill, and to this day, she still gets calls from them. My parents adopted from a no kill, and guess what...they are on a first name basis and my parents know their number by heart, simply because they speak so often to one another about...

Joan, that's not the way a no-kill or rescue usually works. Rescues and no-kills have very stringent rules about who can adopt their animals -- way more strict than a kill shelter, and most are followed for many years after. My daughter adopted from a no-kill, and to this day, she still gets calls from them. My parents adopted from a no kill, and guess what...they are on a first name basis and my parents know their number by heart, simply because they speak so often to one another about their dogs. It's a fallacy created by shelters that don't want to do the work to get them adopted. I fostered four pups and when I expressed a possible situation wherein the pups might be put in danger, if given to a particular party, the person was IMMEDIATELY refused adoption ability. Rescues and no-kills are almost always stricter than any shelters I know, and believe me, I know A LOT OF SHELTERS! .

Pamela Selwyn
Pamela Selwyn
  • Joan JC Pool

Germany only has no-kill shelters. Occasionally people do bring dogs or cats back, which is sad. But are they better off dead?

Arlene Dehmer
Arlene Dehmer
  • Joan JC Pool

I HELPED IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE TO SET UP NOAH'S ARK ANIMAL SANCTUARY IN ROCKFORD, IL AROUND 1990 - IT'S A NON-KILL SHELTER. ON AVERAGE WE ADOPTED ABOUT 27 DOGS PER MONTH AND ABOUT 25 CATS. SELDOM DID THEY EVER COME BACK. THE ORGANIZATION WAS 501-C, AND WE SURVIVED STRICTLY BY CONTRIBUTIONS AND THE FEE FOR ADOPTION, PLUS WE HAD A SMALL SUPPLY OF SUPER FOOD AND ACCESSORIES.

Arlene Dehmer
Arlene Dehmer
  • Joan JC Pool

(TO CONTINUE) IF MY MEMORY IS RIGHT, WE ONLY HAD TO HAVE ONE GERMAN SHEPHERD PUPPY PUT TO SLEEP DUE TO HIS BAD HIPS THAT WOULD ONLY GET WORSE AS HE GREW.

Arlene Dehmer
Arlene Dehmer
  • Joan JC Pool

IF ANY DOGS OR CATS STAYED TOO LONG, WE HAD A GENTLEMAN WHO HAD A FARM IN LEAF RIVER & HE WOULD COME IN AND ADOPT THE LONG TERM PETS. WE ALSO HAD A

Arlene Dehmer
Arlene Dehmer
  • Joan JC Pool

A SWEET LITTLE VOLUNTEER, KNOWN AS THE CAT LADY, WHO WOULD TAKE KITTIES WHO WERE LONG TERM , AND TO THIS DAY SHE HAS APPROXIMATELY 60 CATS AND A S[ECIAL VERY LARGE ROOM WAS ADDED TO THIS HOME FOR HER CATS UNTIL THEY'RE ADOPTED. WE WERE STRICTLY NON-KILL, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS POSSIBLE TO HAVE A "NON KILL" SHELTER WHICH PETA CAN DO WITH THE RIGHT MEMBERS & PEOPLE WHO ARE TRULY ANIMAL LOVERS WHO WILL DO WHATEVER THEY CAN TO SAVE THE INNOCENT PET'S LIFE. I'M VERY, VERY...

A SWEET LITTLE VOLUNTEER, KNOWN AS THE CAT LADY, WHO WOULD TAKE KITTIES WHO WERE LONG TERM , AND TO THIS DAY SHE HAS APPROXIMATELY 60 CATS AND A S[ECIAL VERY LARGE ROOM WAS ADDED TO THIS HOME FOR HER CATS UNTIL THEY'RE ADOPTED. WE WERE STRICTLY NON-KILL, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS POSSIBLE TO HAVE A "NON KILL" SHELTER WHICH PETA CAN DO WITH THE RIGHT MEMBERS & PEOPLE WHO ARE TRULY ANIMAL LOVERS WHO WILL DO WHATEVER THEY CAN TO SAVE THE INNOCENT PET'S LIFE. I'M VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED IN PETA AND HOPE AND PRAY THAT THEY WIL LWAKE UP ASAP..AND STOP MURDERING PRECIOUS ANIMALS WHO CANNOT SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.

Rick Sanders
Rick Sanders
  • Joan JC Pool

Thank God for people like YOU!..<3

Dell Roberson
Dell Roberson
  • Joan JC Pool

Joan, if no-kill shelters made restrictions on the adopters more stringent then that might be a better solution and could go to better homes. The overpopulation thing is a myth read this article http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?cat=8 and not pointed towards you but this is the response to what I wrote to someone else IN LAYMAN TERMS FOR THE ONES THAT DON'T GET IT HSUS , ASCPA, PETA, AND THE SPCA AND MORE ALL GET KICKBACKS FROM SO CALLED CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS (THE SUCKERS) AND THEN...

Joan, if no-kill shelters made restrictions on the adopters more stringent then that might be a better solution and could go to better homes. The overpopulation thing is a myth read this article http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?cat=8 and not pointed towards you but this is the response to what I wrote to someone else IN LAYMAN TERMS FOR THE ONES THAT DON'T GET IT HSUS , ASCPA, PETA, AND THE SPCA AND MORE ALL GET KICKBACKS FROM SO CALLED CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS (THE SUCKERS) AND THEN ALSO OTHER INTEREST PARTY GROUPS LIKE THE COMMERCIAL DOG FOOD COMPANIES , IAMS, EUKANUBA, PURINA, ETC, WHICH ARE BASICALLY THANKING THE KILL SHELTERS FOR ALL PRODUCT THAT THEY GIVE THEM , PRODUCT BEING ALL THE DEAD DOGS AND CATS THEY PROVIDE THEM WITH TO PUT IN YOUR DOG FOOD, AND ANYTHING ELSE THEY CAN GET INTO THE RENDERING PLANT ALONG WITH ALL THE RESIDUE THAT COMES FROM TELAZOL, KETAMINE , PROPOFOL, MEDETOMIDINE, XYLAIZINE, AND SOME FORM OF A BARBITURATE , TAKE YOUR PICK , READ ABOUT RENDERING

Gwen Gourley Skoglund
Gwen Gourley Skoglund

I will volunteer for a no kill shelter! I will help any way I can.

Maria Furman
Maria Furman
  • Gwen Gourley Skoglund

and why don't you?

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel

So that you can see for yourselves. This is reality, and you can see it for yourself on this site: http://www.petakillsanimals.com/proof It was taken from The Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services (VDACS) according to the site.

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel
  • Angelic Angel

So, based on these figures, Peta, in 2012, took in 1843 animals, transferred 130 to other shelters (I'm assuming kill shelters,) Adopted 19, and killed 1647 animals. Great job Peta!

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel
  • Angelic Angel

This is a direct link to the Va site I show above, so you can see the actual numbers they submitted themselves: http://www.vi.virginia.gov/vdacs_ar/cgi-bin/Vdacs_search.cgi?link_select=facility&form=fac_select&fac_num=157&year=2012

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel

Over 10,000 people have signed this petition, so far, Peter. Why? Because people think Ingrid needs to stop KILLING ANIMALS, period. You don't have to agree, but there are an awful lot of us that are in agreement. I wonder how many more will sign the petition. No one is trying to say she's doing something wrong concerning what she does to help animals, but that part has to stop. Why? Because it's not fair to the animals she's taking in, and it's not fair to tell others that she's...

Over 10,000 people have signed this petition, so far, Peter. Why? Because people think Ingrid needs to stop KILLING ANIMALS, period. You don't have to agree, but there are an awful lot of us that are in agreement. I wonder how many more will sign the petition. No one is trying to say she's doing something wrong concerning what she does to help animals, but that part has to stop. Why? Because it's not fair to the animals she's taking in, and it's not fair to tell others that she's 'protecting' animals, when, in fact, she's doing the opposite to those she puts to sleep..especially the healthy adoptable ones. We are asking that she becomes what she claims to be...a true animal lover...which means, no-kill! 'Real' animal lovers don't kill animals (unless a 'real' vet says they can't make it better for them,) regardless of the reason.

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel
  • Angelic Angel

When I said, "that part" has to stop, I was referring to her killing the animals, not the helping part. She should help animals, but killing them is not helping them, in my opinion.

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel
  • Angelic Angel

I know of a blind dog, one that a vet said it was kinder to put it down. The dog might disagree, though, since it now sits in the lap of a very kind old lady, daily. It knows where its bowl is and how to go to its potty, and it is loved and cherished and spoiled, daily. Had we listened to the vet, that animal would be dead. Would he be happy? NO, he wouldn't, I also know a lot of older ladies that would love the companionship of a dog or cat. But, there aren't enough homes? No, there are...

I know of a blind dog, one that a vet said it was kinder to put it down. The dog might disagree, though, since it now sits in the lap of a very kind old lady, daily. It knows where its bowl is and how to go to its potty, and it is loved and cherished and spoiled, daily. Had we listened to the vet, that animal would be dead. Would he be happy? NO, he wouldn't, I also know a lot of older ladies that would love the companionship of a dog or cat. But, there aren't enough homes? No, there are plenty of homes, but if you make the animals INACCESSIBLE to people, you're right, you will never find them homes. Shelters need to extend their hours, become people friendly, take the dogs to fairs, and pet shops, where they can be seen, daily. Create shows that people want to attend, and bring them there, too.

Peter Souza
Peter Souza

Peta was the first to make America aware of the cruelity of using Elephants to perform in circuses. Indeed their literature and volunteers helped us to get the use of exotic animals (Elephants, lions, tigers..)to be used for entertainment and in circuses to be banned and outlawed in Provincetown, Massachusettes. We protested, We educated, we got in the press both local and AP, and we won by overwhelming majority at town meeting. furthermore, we got the 3 elephants removed/rescued from clyde...

Peta was the first to make America aware of the cruelity of using Elephants to perform in circuses. Indeed their literature and volunteers helped us to get the use of exotic animals (Elephants, lions, tigers..)to be used for entertainment and in circuses to be banned and outlawed in Provincetown, Massachusettes. We protested, We educated, we got in the press both local and AP, and we won by overwhelming majority at town meeting. furthermore, we got the 3 elephants removed/rescued from clyde beatty cole brothers circus, by taking video of elaphants being beaten and turning over to the press and to the usda. Peta gave us a lot of tools and alot of nice people to protest with usto accomplish all this ; )

Angelic Angel
Angelic Angel
  • Peter Souza

Gee, where did those elephants go after the hoopla? Just curious.

Aunty Ann
Aunty Ann

I will not hurt animals I will not let anyone I see hurt animals I will clip their ears with my wingsx

Adam Silber
Adam Silber
  • Aunty Ann

are you a vegan? if not you hurt animals

Peter Souza
Peter Souza

Jennifer Bark, You are the one living in fantasy land. Not everyone can deal with a dog that bites. you are distorting what we wrote. must be so nice to be so wealthy and sit on your high horse and attack an organization that tries so hard with so little. and i did say that i dont agree with evthing peta does. my comments are very valuable for u to considr if u want to create the changes we all want. not everyone is mentally physically equipped to adopt a fktup dog. if you want a solution,...

Jennifer Bark, You are the one living in fantasy land. Not everyone can deal with a dog that bites. you are distorting what we wrote. must be so nice to be so wealthy and sit on your high horse and attack an organization that tries so hard with so little. and i did say that i dont agree with evthing peta does. my comments are very valuable for u to considr if u want to create the changes we all want. not everyone is mentally physically equipped to adopt a fktup dog. if you want a solution, one more time, create affordable and accessable spat nueter programs in rural areas.

Gary Fair
Gary Fair

what is the a.c.s doing here?!?....... as if their animal cruelty isnt enough. billions of dollars every year prove the failure of animal research. "there is a laundry list of problems with mouse models of cancer research" dr.bob weinburg, director of the ludwig center for cancer research at m.i.t. studies of diseases in mice have been misleading researchers for years (pcrm.org). 98% of u.s. medical schools no longer offer animal lab (pcrm.org). animal research has never been validated...

what is the a.c.s doing here?!?....... as if their animal cruelty isnt enough. billions of dollars every year prove the failure of animal research. "there is a laundry list of problems with mouse models of cancer research" dr.bob weinburg, director of the ludwig center for cancer research at m.i.t. studies of diseases in mice have been misleading researchers for years (pcrm.org). 98% of u.s. medical schools no longer offer animal lab (pcrm.org). animal research has never been validated (pcrm.org). also, mrmcmed.org (crt-online.org) humaneseal.org & reform march of dimes.org does the a.c.s STILL believe the world is flat (shakes head!).

Gypsy Julene
Gypsy Julene

I help my parents run a cat rescue home. My dad single handedly rescued over 350 cats in 2012 alone in Birmingham, UK. 5 of those cats had to be put down, because of genetic illnesses as a result of inbreeding. We rescue, foster, and adopt out.

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