Larry Willman
Larry Willman

I've decided to take everything to Salvation Army now! They care about Vets and the disabled.

Ellen Beck
Ellen Beck

Some Goodwill "work" facilities, are basically like a cross between an "adult daycare" & an occupational therapy facility, which give gov't supported clients a sense of purpose, normalcy, & contribution to society, for those who lack the adequate mental & social capicity to function properly in a normal workplace, while earning spending $$.

Nick Magel
Nick Magel
  • Ellen Beck

Hi Ellen, thanks for all of your responses. The National Federation of the Blind have some great resources that can help you as you further your research. https://nfb.org/fair-wages I think the FAQ document is very helpful. I think your point about FLSA being over 70 yrs old really helps highlight how outdated and exploitative Sec. 14C of FLSA is. Also, thanks for sharing your experiences volunteering for Goodwill. I think connecting peoples stories and experiences to campaigns and...

Hi Ellen, thanks for all of your responses. The National Federation of the Blind have some great resources that can help you as you further your research. https://nfb.org/fair-wages I think the FAQ document is very helpful. I think your point about FLSA being over 70 yrs old really helps highlight how outdated and exploitative Sec. 14C of FLSA is. Also, thanks for sharing your experiences volunteering for Goodwill. I think connecting peoples stories and experiences to campaigns and conversations like this one is critical. I would however caution generalizing all disabled employees working environments as the one you worked in. To your point about federal assistance essentially paying the difference to meet minimum wage, I would ask you this; Is that the type of policy you would feel comfortable with for everyone receiving federal assistance (students, veterans, retirees)? If not, I don't think it's appropriate to suggest this only for disabled people receiving federal assistance.

Joe Roybal
Joe Roybal

Shame on Jim Gibbons, Goodwill Industries COE

Lisa Middeke
Lisa Middeke

In my community, I recommend giving to the Salvation Army or other charitable org., because I hear about things the S.A. does for this community all the time, but never hear of anything Goodwill has done. It is called, "Industries," after all. It seems to me to be a for-profit in disguise.

James Vincent Corriere
James Vincent Corriere

Criminals!

Lanette Poteat
Lanette Poteat

I USED TO LOVE GOING TO GOODWILL BUT IT IS JUST LIKE WALMART NOW AND I WILL NOT BE SHOPPING AND/OR DONATING THERE IN THE FUTURE.

Maxine M Little Fowler
Maxine M Little Fowler

THEY DONT SELL DRAPES BY THE PAIR ==YOU HAVE TO BUY EACH PANEL SEPERATE

Maxine M Little Fowler
Maxine M Little Fowler

I REFUSE TO SHOP GOODWILL THEY ARE A BUNCH OF CROOKS

Ellen Beck
Ellen Beck

I need to look into this further, as I have reason to suspect these claims are unwarranted. It is my understanding that Goodwill has a service for those disabled, who are capaple of working in the mainstream workforce, to help place them for employment. Under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) of 1990, they would have equal rights to fair wages & their empoloyers would be subject to the laws regarding minimum wage.

In regards to work facilities owned and run by Goodwill, that is a...

I need to look into this further, as I have reason to suspect these claims are unwarranted. It is my understanding that Goodwill has a service for those disabled, who are capaple of working in the mainstream workforce, to help place them for employment. Under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) of 1990, they would have equal rights to fair wages & their empoloyers would be subject to the laws regarding minimum wage.

In regards to work facilities owned and run by Goodwill, that is a different matter. It is my understanding that these facilities do not exist to provide a livable income, as the clients who are placed there are already supported by the state government. Their housing, medical needs, food, clothes, etc. are all provided for, so these work facilities merely provide some spending money on top of that. If you factor all that in all that, then they really are receiving at least if not more than the equivalent of minimum wage. Some facilities offer FREE skill training & preparation of certain disabled individuals to enter or re-enter the regular workforce. Other facilities are for those with metal disabilites and are fully supervised.

I once volunteered at a Goodwill work facility for adults who had closed head injuries. These people were being financially supported by the state, many of them lived in state run group homes, and this gave them the opportunity to earn some spending money from doing simple piece work (like stuffing envelopes or assembling small parts) for outside companies which would contract them. Their lunch and beverages were provided there. There were supervisors to ensure a safe & stable environment, and
assist them in learning & practicing appropriate social behavior, comunication, and interactions with other people. Facililites such as this, are basically like cross between an "adult daycare" and an occupational therapy facility. They give the clients a sense of purpose, normalcy, and contribution to society, for those who lack the adequate mental & social capicity to function properly in a normal workplace.

I don't believe anyone is recieving less than minimum wage who are not already recieving other goverment support for living. I need to research this further, but I suspect that those who started this "cause" were not fully informed or did not completely research the
validity of their claims, especially since Nick mentions 1938 Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA), which is outdated and preceeds the ADA of 1990. I would not sign such a
petition without first determining the accuracy of such a cause.

Perhaps a FB friend who used to work for Goodwill could shed some light on this.

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