Please Read This
"Please read this"? That is what you would like us to read?
After reading a lot of these comments it is no surprise why this country and this world, is in such horrible shape. The animosity for each other, the partisan nonsense, the religious "end of times" craziness and sheer ignorance and arrogance of people is astonishing! What is wrong with people? If you want a world worth living in, especially for future generations, then start to educate yourselves and fight for freedom! Freedom can be won not through wars or violence but rational discussion....
After reading a lot of these comments it is no surprise why this country and this world, is in such horrible shape. The animosity for each other, the partisan nonsense, the religious "end of times" craziness and sheer ignorance and arrogance of people is astonishing! What is wrong with people? If you want a world worth living in, especially for future generations, then start to educate yourselves and fight for freedom! Freedom can be won not through wars or violence but rational discussion. It's time for everyone to realize that the way we currently are living is not sustainable and must be changed. By refusing to understand, to educate yourself or even care is to allow for the continuation and worsening of the worlds problems. This will only make the most important issues harder to resolve. We as a society must learn to use our abilities of reason, compassion and respect for one another and stop this petty arguing!
Discussions only get you on the list of people to watch out for and the NSA protects the people with billions of dollar's and the company's who work the government for their own riches and the NSA has no businesses watching what it people are doing unless they hear the HOT WORDS by people who have harmed other`s and those sick in the mind
For pete's sake as broke as this country is they are spending money on spying on their citizens. We are all too broke to be doing anything wrong. We can't even leave our houses because we have no money. Their is something dysfunctional about this sort of activity.
You're an asshole! I fought in Iraq and Afghanistan, Bush sent me to Iraq and his father to Kuwait in 91. Stop selectively picking and arbitrarily choosing what is right and wrong. I defend my country and follow the orders of my commander in chief, stop whining and polarizing the country with your bullshit petty accusations. And take me off your faggot ass causes mailing list. I answered the call 3 times! Stop your bitching and whining and stand up united or fall down alone!
I don't agree with everything you have said such as "faggot" and the whining and all BUT I DO AGREE, this had NOTHING to do with Obama as far as the wars in Afghanistan AND Iraq. People need to be reminded an awful lot about the 2 men who caused the war...Bush SR and Bush Jr. Their PERSONAL crap became OUR personal trouble. I have also been around long enough to remember Kuwait in 1991...infact, been around a heck of a lot longer than that.
(Hit enter by accident) :)... Anyway, if we can get 10,000 people from as many States as possible. At minimum 30 States. Then they all meet at the White House and protest. Would that make someone start doing there jobs accurately or itll be in the news for a-couple days, receive comments like "Things will be looked into". Then some weeks later nothing happens. A friend of mine thought of this. Well if anyone has feedback (pro or con) I would be interested in others thoughts.
I believe your friend is undoubtfully right. This is the usual behavior for such things the government does. It is avoided at all costs. However, Causes has been very good for fighting back against the government. Not saying it WILL come out the way WE WANT it to be, but if we try, it can NEVER hurt, right?
Nothing can be done if nothing happens I hear you. Me personally I intentionally go 1/2 way since I get to passionate when it comes to my country and my people. I know I would get people upset since its what I do best so I tend to leave most of it to you all.
Stop walking all over The Constitution and Bill Of Rights!!!
Yup I have major doubts of anyone ever listening. Even when someone acts like they'll listen its either for votes or someone trying to get there foot into politics.
immediatly fire gov workers who want to fire or press charges agianst people for searching and seizeing gov's property with probable cause of find evidence of gov-crime or gov-misconduct(crime includes gov searching and seizeing non-gov's property at large w.o resonable suspcion).
immediatly fire gov workers who(or think its ok for gov to:) search or seizure w/o probable cause of crime
its impossible to prevent/stop all bad things from happening. HOW could
hypocritically spying on...
its impossible to prevent/stop all bad things from happening. HOW could
hypocritically spying on everyone prevent crime? DETAILS? EXAMPLES?! even if it could, the risk of people being punished for speech is higher than the chance it would prevent crime. gov spying on everyone could be and has been used to murder(might blame it on defense, suicide, make it look like an accident, or frame someone), disappear, abuse, arrest, and punish people for speech ,political and reglious beleifs, and association. gov can more easily get away with and conceal crime.
if gov thought spying on everyone was good for national security, gov wouldnt have a problem with publisizeing everything about gov and being 100%transparent, w/o non-gov even haveing to ask. it doesnt, becaues it just wants to punish speech.
plans, plots,and funding "terrorist groups" arnt illegal. freedom of speech. first fire gov workers who plan to commit crimes(exspecially murder)agianst innocent people.
some corrupt gov workers wrongly lable law-abideing average people terrorists based on speech or political/religious beleifs, because corrupt gov is terrified of law-abideing people that want to expose and stop corruption.
gov who hypocritically searches and seizies w/o reasonable suspcion is a traitor who betrayed their oath to defend the consitution and supreme laws of the land.
they're a tratior for betraying the public lieing to them saying they are there for national security when actualy they breach national secuirty, and only secure gov criminals from being prosecuted.
gov workers who hypcoritically spy on the public at large w/o reasonable suspcion, are the enemy.
only criminals would say exposeing/leaking evidence of crimes is aiding the enemy because law-abideing people that try to stop crime are a criminal's enemy.
gov is subject to transparency laws that non-gov isnt subject to
its legal to share (gov info that is legally sapose to be published) with the public
public sector(gov) is sapose to be the public's employees and be publicly viewable(w some good-reasoned public approved exseptions)
non-gov is the private sector-
meaning non-gov has the right to privacy. everyone is the public.
corrupt gov says: top secret criminal intel gathering programs and gov's classified crimes if exposed put national security at risk.(actually its the oposite, ...its good for national security to expose top secret criminal intel gathering programs. it puts national security at risk for gov to spy on the whole public- it puts criminals at risk of being caught if their crimes are exposed)
corrupt gov says: its to keep the country safe.(actually its to keep criminals safe from being legally and rightfully fired and charged)
corrupt gov says: were takeing phone records and spying on non-gov at the same time punishing anyone who spys on us. its well known were only collecting info w the intent to use it agianst people, and there's a high chance it will be used to punish people for speech and association-because it happened before(like the irs scandal(punitivly taxed for poltical beleifs), and punishments could get much worse inlcudeing murder torture and imprisionment for diagreeing w gov)-no need to worry its for your saftey, your dum enough to beleive that right?
the only reason to collect info(speech/words) is to use it(in this case to discriminate agianst people based on it)
when gov collects unnessicary info-people get punished for their speech and association(irs scandal)
gov isnt more moral than non-gov.
w/o liberty your not safe. the only point of saftey is to keep your liberty safe and to be safe from haveing your liberty taken away from you. w/o liberty and freedom, whats there to keep safe?nothing.
when we have the freedom to do what we want with our private property and bodies as long as it doesnt touch or endanger others private property w/o their permisison, our property is safe from being stollen/taxed, controlled, kidnapped, restricted, trapped, physcially abused, or murdered.
gov's job isnt to collect unnesicary info or search w/o probable cause
gov has alot more serious crimes it should be going after(like violent offenders, kidnappers) instead of spying on everyone
gov's job is to protect people's right to not have their private property searched or seized w/o probable cause.
see something say something-report gov's suspcious activity
whistle blower law-cant legally get in trouble for reporting crime/gov-misconduct
its gov's job to report and try to stop crime/gov-misconduct, and protect everyone=under the law=not letting some get away w the same type of misconduct you dont let others get away with, =no spying on everyone while at the same time disallowing everyone to spy on you
require gov workers report gov-misconduct and gov's activity that is suspected to be misconduct or else get fired and owe wage refund. (exsept in cases where your likely to be punished if you reported-however you must still do whatever you can to report in a safe way
allowing criminals to go unpunished puts everyone at risk.
require gov workers immediatly investigate reports of gov misconduct and take minor complaints seriously
put gov under 24-7live public video survailence(exsept w detailed good reason presented to the public to keep certian info secret). reasons for gov secrets shouldnt be secret.
make gov delete all info it illegally collected, and info collected that isnt freely accessble to the public(ex buying info from bussiness's), w/o at least reasonaoble suspision of a crime.
He needs to stop trying to take our Constitution and our freedom away and go back to Kenya.
We can't solve the budget crisis but we shure as hell can spy on people and build walls to keep people out. No matter what it costs? And the fact of the matter is our priorities have been hijacked by fear mongering politicians and private companies that cash in big time from all this castle building.