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senate Bill S. 2040

Should U.S. Victims of Terror Attacks be Able to Sue Responsible Foreign Governments?

Argument in favor

Foreign governments and their officials that sponsor or otherwise aid and abet terrorist attacks on U.S. soil shouldn’t have immunity from lawsuits filed by the victims of the attack or their survivors. This bill changes existing law to allow such suits to proceed.

BTSundra's Opinion
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04/22/2016
Many Arab nations sponsor terrorists outright. They should be held responsible for this.
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Mitch's Opinion
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07/19/2016
We need to make countries that harbor terrorists pay for what they are doing to us Americans. We need to make them feel the same pain and fear as they try to put on us. Let's hit the bad player countries were it hurts. In their wallets.
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Mark's Opinion
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04/23/2016
If a company was responsible they could sue, why should a terrorist country be any different.
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Argument opposed

Just as the federal government is protected from lawsuits overseas, the U.S. needs to protect foreign governments from lawsuits in America’s courts — even if the foreign government or its officials helped to facilitate an act of terrorism.

Nirvan's Opinion
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07/18/2016
As much as I believe that justice should be due to the countless acts of terrorism that happen in not only our backyard, but also other nations, this seems highly impractical. There would be no double standard because the US itself is involved in numerous foreign affairs where foreign governments would want to bring US officials and such to trial in their nation. This would weaken our global reputation, and create more enemies. Plus, in what court would we even process these terrorists? Something should be done to redeem justice for terrorism and backup victims and families of terrorist attacks, but this is not the solution.
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Steven's Opinion
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04/21/2016
This is can of worms we don't want to open. As many military campaigns as we (America) have been involved in and are still involved in from the first Iraq war to drone strikes now. If all the families and survivors of what we've done over there were able to sue us in turn. We would be in a lot of trouble. What defines an act of terrorism is a matter of perspective. People in the Middle East see our bombing campaigns as terrorism. It's a double edged sword unless you think the world will allow our citizens to sue and not allow citizens of other countries to sue in kind.
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operaman's Opinion
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04/20/2016
Damned if you do and damned if you don't. I would like to have voted yes, but long term ramification really has a bleak outcome.
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    Many Arab nations sponsor terrorists outright. They should be held responsible for this.
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    As much as I believe that justice should be due to the countless acts of terrorism that happen in not only our backyard, but also other nations, this seems highly impractical. There would be no double standard because the US itself is involved in numerous foreign affairs where foreign governments would want to bring US officials and such to trial in their nation. This would weaken our global reputation, and create more enemies. Plus, in what court would we even process these terrorists? Something should be done to redeem justice for terrorism and backup victims and families of terrorist attacks, but this is not the solution.
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    This is can of worms we don't want to open. As many military campaigns as we (America) have been involved in and are still involved in from the first Iraq war to drone strikes now. If all the families and survivors of what we've done over there were able to sue us in turn. We would be in a lot of trouble. What defines an act of terrorism is a matter of perspective. People in the Middle East see our bombing campaigns as terrorism. It's a double edged sword unless you think the world will allow our citizens to sue and not allow citizens of other countries to sue in kind.
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    Damned if you do and damned if you don't. I would like to have voted yes, but long term ramification really has a bleak outcome.
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    This could be a Pandora's box rife with very negative unintended consequences.
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    This is absurd. Why waste money on lawsuits that will never be collected and drag out the process of closure for families?
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    That doesn't really make sense. Alternatively, we could not pay Iran billions and create a fund for these people. Novel thought
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    Sure, we could allow this veto to be overridden, sue the heck out Iran, Saudi Arabia etc., but what about this comes back to bite us? For example, what if the survivors(or their heirs) of the Atomic Bombings in Japan decided to sue us?
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    We need to make countries that harbor terrorists pay for what they are doing to us Americans. We need to make them feel the same pain and fear as they try to put on us. Let's hit the bad player countries were it hurts. In their wallets.
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    How would anyone even hold them accountable? All this would do is drain the suing person's bank account, create more work for the US justice system, and give the offending country a laugh. There's no one to hold them to honoring the decision and make them pay, so this is a rather useless piece of legislation at this time.
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    This is going to open the door for other countries to do the same. We already have a mechanism for interacting with them: it's called the government, and it's what we elect the legislative and executive branches for. The average citizen does not have the training or experience to sue other governments.
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    Yes, the Saudis should pay but not this way. Litigation is not the answer. Perhaps no more military support from us.
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    As many Countable members have said (in so many words), this sword could and WOULD cut both ways! The families of victims of terrorist attacks deserve justice, but this is not the way to seek it. I personally think that the way to see that justice is done for these families would be to: 1. Stop any and all forms of aid/support to Saudi Arabia and every other country that supports Islamic terrorism; 2. Wipe ISIS/ISIL/Daesh off the face of the Earth; 3. Ban further immigration of Muslims, given the fact that there is no CERTAIN means of adequately vetting them, plus they can be radicalized AFTER they come to America; 4. Start deporting every imam who encourages and supports jihad and shut down their mosques; and 5. Deport all Muslims suspected of terrorist activities. Now, we KNOW that this will never happen while Obama is in office, nor would it happen under a Hillary Clinton administration. Whether or not it would happen under a Donald Trump administration remains to be seen.
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    We are the bully of the whole world. Nope, shouldn't open that can of worms
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    If a company was responsible they could sue, why should a terrorist country be any different.
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    Not unless foreign countries are funding/encouraging the terrorists.
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    I hear the argument that we will be opening a can of worms if this passes because all you need be is a student of American War, Covert War, Black Budget Projects, & Foreign Policy to know that this would be a double edged sword with some of the things we've done & are doing & we'd be hit with an incalculable amount of Lawsuits ourselves, but isn't that what courts are for? Some will win as some will lose, but just to be able to give the victims & the victims' families their day in court, to hash it out, which they have fought & fought & fought harder to just get to this point, why not get them one step closer to their closure? Yes Saudi Arabia has threatened to sell $750 Billion in U.S. assets if this bill becomes law, but the fact that the "28 Pages" have come to light showing Saudi Arabian involvement with 9/11 at the highest levels, we must take a stand. The way they are conducting the war in Yemen, bombing hospitals & schools, the threats to the U.S. over this law passing, & forcing the U.N. to hold back its Children's rights objectives. Not to mention their abysmal human rights record, do we really want to be cozy with this "supposed ally" anyway? This law would strictly be limited to Proven Terrorist Acts Committed by Foreign Governments, so, as they tell us, if they have nothing to hide, they have nothing to fear.
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    Who will be jurors of their peers? Wouldn't make a fair trial. Who would pay even if they were found guilty? Do you really think other countries will abide by this? Do you think our government would stand up for you? Not!
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    If we should be able to, then the Japanese should sue us for Hiroshima.
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    Although the accountability of foreign nations for potential involvement in terrorist attacks on the United States is important, this is not the solution. Trying the legal accountability of a foreign nation should not take place by individual citizens, and should definitely not take place in a U.S. district court. This sets a dangerous precedent that could very easily backfire. Although the intent is to provide justice, I assert that this legislation will only provoke controversy and conflict.
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