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house Bill H.R. 8294

Should the Dept. of Labor’s Registered Apprenticeship Program Be Expanded?

Argument in favor

Apprenticeship programs are an important job and career readiness option, especially in the current environment where many people may no longer be able to afford — or want to attend — traditional postsecondary education, or may need retraining in new industries after a job loss. Supporting and expanding the existing apprenticeship program at the Dept. of Labor is the easiest way for Congress to expand the availability of apprenticeships across the United States.

jimK's Opinion
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last Friday
Developing the skills necessary for our country’s future is very important and while I think this program needs some adjustments to best meet those goals, I will leave that aside for the moment. I do not believe that this program should be solely managed by employers as the skills our country will need can often be broader than the needs of one particular employer. There should be some structure to assure that the broader skills are not ignored.
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Jim2423's Opinion
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last Thursday
Why did it go away in the first place? Oh yes colleges and loan agencies lend money, apprenticeships earn money. There is why the government dropped it. I took an apprenticeship 45 years ago. No regrets at all, best move I ever made. Now retired with a great income. I see a comment that a large percentage of apprentices do not complete the program. That may be true, but 6 out of 10 college students do not complete college. That is 40% fail to complete. That tells me primary education is at fault. Nothing to strive for when you are just taught the test. Using no initiative on your own to expand in learning. Even primary school needs to allow students to excel lit learn failure early so they can change. Most parents are to busy working jobs to really care what their kids are doing in school. They know our system will socially pass them along. All this until they hit the real world, whether you pay for your education ir take on an apprenticeship. They never had to buckle down and really pass a test. There is the failures. But you that complain about apprenticeships must have stock in college loans.
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Dave 's Opinion
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last Friday
I don’t know anything about this program. But it sounds like a really good thing. Which means that McConnell and the Republicans will probably end it.
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Argument opposed

The existing apprenticeship program at the Dept. of Labor is outdated and doesn’t meet the needs of many businesses, which would prefer to determine their own apprenticeship training requirements without the oversight of bureaucrats who don’t necessarily have the expertise to determine what skills are needed to train workers in a particular industry. Rather than expanding the existing apprenticeship program, Congress should take time to think about how to support industry-led apprenticeship programs that businesses take the lead in developing and administering.

B.R.'s Opinion
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last Thursday
Why would anyone want to expand a program that is unsuccessful? While the DOL reports that there is a 94% placement upon graduation, only .03% completes the apprenticeship. This, by far, is not success. While the concept is a good one, there is obviously flaws in the execution. Prior to expansion, they need to reform the program first. One issue that appears to stand out is the level of involvement of the business or lack thereof. This would probably be a good starting point.
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Ryan 's Opinion
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last Thursday
This should have been done long ago, but there does need to be more industry participation in this program. Committee Republicans are correct this program needs to be driven by businesses. The government is completely incapable of setting learning standards, requirements and needs.
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J's Opinion
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last Saturday
We need to stop expanding government programs. These are not critical!
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bill Progress


  • Not enacted
    The President has not signed this bill
  • The senate has not voted
  • The house Passed November 20th, 2020
    Roll Call Vote 246 Yea / 140 Nay
    IntroducedSeptember 17th, 2020

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Bill Activity

  • Floor
    Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.
  • Floor
    On passage Passed by the Yeas and Nays: 246 - 140 (Roll no. 227).
  • Floor
    UNFINISHED BUSINESS - The Chair announced that the unfinished business was on agreeing to amendments, which had been debated previously and on which further proceedings had been postponed.
  • Floor
    POSTPONED PROCEEDINGS - At the conclusion of debate on the Smucker amendment, the Chair put the question on agreeing to the amendment and by voice vote, announced that the noes had prevailed. Mr. Smucker demanded the yeas and nays and the Chair postponed further proceedings on the question of agreeing to the amendment until a time to be announced.
  • Floor
    DEBATE - Pursuant to the provisions of H. Res. 1224, the House proceeded with 10 minutes of debate on the Smucker amendment No. 15.
  • Floor
    POSTPONED PROCEEDINGS - At the conclusion of debate on the Levin (MI) amendment, the Chair put the question on agreeing to the amendment and by voice vote, announced that the ayes had prevailed. Ms. Foxx demanded the yeas and nays and the Chair postponed further proceedings on the question of agreeing to the amendment until a time to be announced.
  • Floor
    DEBATE - Pursuant to the provisions of H. Res. 1224, the House proceeded with 10 minutes of debate on the Levin (MI) amendment No. 9.
  • Floor
    Considered as unfinished business.
  • Floor
    DEBATE - Pursuant to the provisions of H.Res. 1224, the House proceeded with 20 minutes of debate on the Scott(VA) En Bloc amendment No. 1.
  • Floor
    DEBATE - The House proceeded with one hour of debate on H.R. 8294.
  • Floor
    Rule provides for consideration of H.R. 8294 with 1 hour of general debate. Motion to recommit with or without instructions allowed. Specified amendments are in order. The resolution provides that the amendment in the nature of a substitute recommended by the Committee on Education and Labor now printed in the bill, modified by the amendment printed in Part A of the Rules Committee report, shall be considered as adopted and the bill, as amended.
  • Floor
    Considered under the provisions of rule H. Res. 1224.
  • Floor
    Rule H. Res. 1224 passed House.
  • Floor
    Considered under the provisions of rule H. Res. 1224. (consideration: CR H5950-5982)
  • Floor
    POSTPONED PROCEEDINGS - Pursuant to clause 1(c) of Rule 19, the Chair postponed further consideration on H.R. 8294.
  • Floor
    Without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid upon the table.
  • Floor
    DEBATE - Pursuant to the provisions of H.Res. 1224, the House proceeded with 20 minutes of debate on the Scott(VA) En Bloc amendment No. 2.
  • Floor
    Rules Committee Resolution H. Res. 1224 Reported to House. Rule provides for consideration of H.R. 8294 with 1 hour of general debate. Motion to recommit with or without instructions allowed. Specified amendments are in order. The resolution provides that the amendment in the nature of a substitute recommended by the Committee on Education and Labor now printed in the bill, modified by the amendment printed in Part A of the Rules Committee report, shall be considered as adopted and the bill, as amended.
  • Calendars
    Placed on the Union Calendar, Calendar No. 465.
  • Discharge
    Committee on the Judiciary discharged.
  • Committee
    Reported (Amended) by the Committee on Education and Labor. H. Rept. 116-567, Part I.
  • Committee
    Ordered to be Reported (Amended) by the Yeas and Nays: 26 - 16.
  • Committee
    Committee Consideration and Mark-up Session Held.
  • IntroReferral
    Referred to the Committee on Education and Labor, and in addition to the Committee on the Judiciary, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.

bill Progress


  • Not enacted
    The President has not signed this bill
  • The senate has not voted
  • The house Passed November 20th, 2020
    Roll Call Vote 246 Yea / 140 Nay
    IntroducedSeptember 17th, 2020

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    Developing the skills necessary for our country’s future is very important and while I think this program needs some adjustments to best meet those goals, I will leave that aside for the moment. I do not believe that this program should be solely managed by employers as the skills our country will need can often be broader than the needs of one particular employer. There should be some structure to assure that the broader skills are not ignored.
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    Why would anyone want to expand a program that is unsuccessful? While the DOL reports that there is a 94% placement upon graduation, only .03% completes the apprenticeship. This, by far, is not success. While the concept is a good one, there is obviously flaws in the execution. Prior to expansion, they need to reform the program first. One issue that appears to stand out is the level of involvement of the business or lack thereof. This would probably be a good starting point.
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    Yes, better yet: Support free education Pre-K thru college/technical school/apprenticeships! Let’s make America educated & employed!!!
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    Why did it go away in the first place? Oh yes colleges and loan agencies lend money, apprenticeships earn money. There is why the government dropped it. I took an apprenticeship 45 years ago. No regrets at all, best move I ever made. Now retired with a great income. I see a comment that a large percentage of apprentices do not complete the program. That may be true, but 6 out of 10 college students do not complete college. That is 40% fail to complete. That tells me primary education is at fault. Nothing to strive for when you are just taught the test. Using no initiative on your own to expand in learning. Even primary school needs to allow students to excel lit learn failure early so they can change. Most parents are to busy working jobs to really care what their kids are doing in school. They know our system will socially pass them along. All this until they hit the real world, whether you pay for your education ir take on an apprenticeship. They never had to buckle down and really pass a test. There is the failures. But you that complain about apprenticeships must have stock in college loans.
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    I don’t know anything about this program. But it sounds like a really good thing. Which means that McConnell and the Republicans will probably end it.
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    Yes, I see that big business is “concerned” that the skills being taught would not meet their needs. This is why corporations could be brought in in an advisory capacity with regard to curriculum. The skills being taught need to expand to include all job levels. Education, I’m always for education!
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    A skilled labor force is necessary for economic growth so the simple answer is necessary BUT a decent leadership must look ahead to the trends and fund that will help our economy move seamlessly into the future. Support the apprentice training programs that will help our economy thrive.
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    I taught an apprentice programs in two different colleges, they are mechanical, electronic and electrical programs. They were a 4 and 5 year program. Credits could be transferred to a engineering degree sponsor by unions, corporations and the state, plus were state ran controlled, certified and certificated. We are behind compared to other countries on education by design. It called dumb down America. It been an attack on unions and education by the every same groups that are complaining about no train personnel. Need to watch what you wish for!
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    I think any way that we can encourage businesses to expand apprenticeship opportunities is a good idea. We are going to have a massive labor shortage in the skilled trades in the next decade, and Congress and the administration should do as much as possible to funnel people into these careers if appropriate. Businesses rarely take initiative on their own unless they want to take advantage of workers, so the government should provide motivation.
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    Apprenticeship programs are an important job and career readiness option, especially in the current environment where many people may no longer be able to afford — or want to attend — traditional postsecondary education, or may need retraining in new industries after a job loss. Supporting and expanding the existing apprenticeship program at the Dept. of Labor is the easiest way for Congress to expand the availability of apprenticeships across the United States. SneakyPete. 👋👏👍👍👏👋 11.19.20
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    We tried this. The whole program needs a complete overhaul in addition to being expanded to meet the needs of individuals who do not have a job to return to. And do it without without the use turning Millennials into the equivalent of indentured servants, please.
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    Everyone doesn’t want or need to go to college. There are many very technical jobs that are constantly in short demand
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    This is the best way to extol the value of genuine “Manual-Trade Labor”-skilled workers. To bring more parity to the constant promotion of ‘college education’, as preferred model to pursue.
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    Apprenticeships lead to good paying jobs. That would be enough for my Republican Representative to vote against it although he said otherwise I his campaign and will do so again in his district. @Frank-001: Save your lecture for someone else. I’ve been at this for 50 years.
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    We need skilled workers in many of the trades. The best education for them could be an apprenticeship program.
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    The Us needs this program. Yes to all education and a path to get there
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    @davidf wrote: "Apprenticeships lead to good-paying jobs. That would be enough for my Republican Representative to vote against it, although he said otherwise I[n] his campaign and will do so again in his district." It’s the same old story, davidf, for any position you want to be enacted, you need to exert POLITICAL PRESSURE. To exert political pressure you need RESOURCES. 1. In any given District, you need a Committed Local Voting Block of Significant Size. 2. Articulate & credible spokespersons. 3. Articulate Press Release Writers. 4. A long term Voter Education Program. 5. Money for Lobbying. Personal connections willing to help in any way can be priceless. You'd best join up with one or more groups committed to an at minimum a generally Progressive Agenda that includes your agenda item. These groups must support an electable candidate likely able to defeat that useless Republican. Winning one Member of the House will not be enough. At the Federal level the President, House and the Senate must be turned some Shade of Blue. If you work in a unionized job, try to get active. It may not be easy to get in and may take a while. Once in you may not like the reality of what goes on; that's not the point. The point there is much be learned from the political process on the ground.
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    It should never have been cancelled!
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    A mind is a terrible thing to waste Another sound familiar??
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    It’s an inexpensive way to get qualified men/women into good paying jobs
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