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house Bill H.R. 4953

Does Paid Administrative Leave for Underperforming Federal Employees Need to be Capped?

Argument in favor

If a federal employee is placed on paid leave because of poor performance or misconduct they shouldn’t remain on paid leave at the taxpayers’ expense for any longer than necessary.

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10/08/2016
Absolutely it should be capped. There should be a very hard cap. Like zero. Like no taxpayer dollars going into the pockets of employees so incompetent they get told not to come in. Fire them. The fact that there is ANY paid leave for misconduct shows us just what terrible stewards the government is with tax dollars. Note that paid administrative leave for incompetent employees is never the image that gets conjured up when discussing tax cuts. It's always "the firemen and the teachers and the children!" Meanwhile this is where the money that the government extorts from its citizens actually goes. America, don't you think YOU could spend your money better than they can?
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Steve's Opinion
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10/08/2016
Paid Administrative Leave!!???!! Capped!!???!! It should be eliminated!! Out here in the private sector real world, where people must be productive to remain employed, misconduct can find one out of a job! As it should be!
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Dawn's Opinion
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10/08/2016
When you underperform in the private sector, you are fired. Paying employees who aren't doing their jobs properly is ridiculous
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Argument opposed

Federal agencies would still be able to keep federal employees on paid leave for longer than 30 days as long as they tell Congress that they need extra time to investigate

B.R.'s Opinion
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10/08/2016
This bill shows the level of incompetence that exists when dealing with personnel issues. Non-related misconduct performance issues should be documented and if an acceptable sustained improvement is not reached, the employee should be fired. In this case, the employee should be given a set time frame for improvement. When dealing with misconduct, the employee should be put on paid leave until proof is obtained. However, this should not take more than two weeks.
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David's Opinion
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10/09/2016
The Federal personnel system is well organized to handle poorly performing employees. This bill is unnecessarily restrictive and punitive in its employee management. It is also an unneeded intrusion by Congress into the realm of the Executive branch. And oddly enough it does not apply to Congressional employees. Hummm
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J. scott's Opinion
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10/08/2016
There you go again trying to mislead the public. The system in place now actually works fine. It's designed to work while an employee is under under investigation or in process before final determination of their status before retention or dismissal. This is actually a good thing so employees are not punished unnecessarily or wrongly in the process. Your wording here is misleading and invites or even incites people by implying deadbeats are being paid for nothing. That's not true just stop it.
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    Absolutely it should be capped. There should be a very hard cap. Like zero. Like no taxpayer dollars going into the pockets of employees so incompetent they get told not to come in. Fire them. The fact that there is ANY paid leave for misconduct shows us just what terrible stewards the government is with tax dollars. Note that paid administrative leave for incompetent employees is never the image that gets conjured up when discussing tax cuts. It's always "the firemen and the teachers and the children!" Meanwhile this is where the money that the government extorts from its citizens actually goes. America, don't you think YOU could spend your money better than they can?
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    This bill shows the level of incompetence that exists when dealing with personnel issues. Non-related misconduct performance issues should be documented and if an acceptable sustained improvement is not reached, the employee should be fired. In this case, the employee should be given a set time frame for improvement. When dealing with misconduct, the employee should be put on paid leave until proof is obtained. However, this should not take more than two weeks.
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    Paid Administrative Leave!!???!! Capped!!???!! It should be eliminated!! Out here in the private sector real world, where people must be productive to remain employed, misconduct can find one out of a job! As it should be!
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    When you underperform in the private sector, you are fired. Paying employees who aren't doing their jobs properly is ridiculous
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    Administrative leave!!!!! Are you kidding me?? Underperforming government employees, just like any other employee should shown the door at once. At one time Government employees had. "Job security (i.e.: you have to kill one of your superiors because killing one of the people who depend on you doesn't count) because that was the only way the Government could get people to work for them decades ago. But now that is not the case with administrators and senior employees anymore with their six figure salaries so all the "employee" protections that have been accumulated during the past decades need to be revisited.
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    Underperforming federal employees should be investigated for up to 30 days. At this time, the pay stops, but the investigation could continue until resolved, but no longer than for another 30 days. At this point, the investigator should be fired for incompetents and case closed. Let's call this attrition.
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    Public officials are to be held to a higher standard. Accordingly, when the trust the public bestows in their officials is betrayed by misconduct or poor performance, we are not to reward them a vacation of paid leave. Constructive punishment should follow, not a slap on the wrist and a sweeping under the rug. Public officials owe the public upmost ethical performance and when they conversely behave with deceit, self-interest, or other unethical behavior, the tax payers should not owe them a pay check.
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    For misconduct or poor performance?! Why aren't they being FIRED?! They probably would be, if they worked in the private sector! You should absolutely cap the amount of paid administrative leave, since We the People are paying the bills! The taxpayers' purse isn't a bottomless pit. Or to put it another way, money doesn't grow on trees, and Uncle Sam needs to tighten his belt! Get my drift??? Kudos to Rep. Matt Salmon for addressing this issue!
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    Private sector workers just get fired.
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    No reason to waste money
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    No brainer.
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    Government jobs do not come with an innate right to job security, and job secirity doesn't mean income security. I might only change my mind if this were to run the risk of making more agencies seek to create problems out of data for self justification and funding.
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    They need to be fired that the way it works ln the real world.
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    As leave or vacation is considered part of your compensation package, if some one is sub standard they they need to be counseled and then impact on their leave / vacation needs to be looked at as tool for correction. But we need to make sure they are all notified of the policy change.
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    In the real world, underperforming employees aren't placed on Administrative Leave. They're fired. If our government is going to pay someone with our tax dollars it sure as hell shouldn't be to stay home and do nothing. We deserve better than an underperforming government.
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    This is the type of thing that only Congress, encouragers of ineptitude, would even debate. If my Congresswoman votes Nay on this, she'll hear from me loudly.
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    The policy needs to be ended. That's what is wrong with the federal government. Want to fix the VA? Fire underperforming employees after a standard review process. No more feather beds using my taxes.
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    ELIMINATE! No work, no pay.
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    LOL - wow an extra vacation for doing something wrong - cool - can I have that job? And I think they also receive compensation for transportation to and from work - your tax dollars at work.
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