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house Bill H.R. 4767

Should it be Harder for the Feds to Claim State Secret Privilege in Court?

Argument in favor

If the federal government wants to claim state secrets privilege to suppress evidence in a trial, it needs to demonstrate that it would actually damage the national defense or U.S. diplomacy. This bill allows courts to overrule the government’s privilege claims if they’re invalid.

Ryan's Opinion
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10/07/2016
The government like to tell the people "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear" as justification for surveillance on the American people. Perhaps it is time they be put to the same test? Read the Constitution, and stop violating our Liberty.
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10/07/2016
Accountability of power is essential to democracy.
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Loraki's Opinion
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10/08/2016
Countable member David said: "The federal government has become extremely secretive and distant from the American public. Citizens are being put on secret lists (no fly list), groups are being singled out due to their political affiliation (IRS and the Tea Party). The FBI demands unlimited access to citizens personal information (Apple iPhones). Due process of law is being eroded by our politicians and bureaucrats. We the people is becoming a meaningless phrase in our Constitution – our Constitution is being de facto nullified." David, I couldn't have said it better myself!
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Argument opposed

There may have been some excessive use of state secrets privilege, but that’s no reason to try and prevent the federal government to use it in cases where national defense or diplomatic relations may be hurt by disclosing certain evidence publicly.

MICKEY's Opinion
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10/08/2016
This is the wrong avenue to address this problem. The level of classification determines the sensitivity of the material as it pertains to the national defense. (TOP SECRET = Grave Harm) thus the classification by itself should be the proof to the court. The issue to be addressed is the over classification of material.
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Michael's Opinion
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10/07/2016
Most of you can't handle the truth. Bunch of paranoid idiots.
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Julie's Opinion
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10/11/2016
No, people like the Clinton's will abuse the privilege at every chance they have if they are doing something they don't want the rest of us to know about.
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    The government like to tell the people "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear" as justification for surveillance on the American people. Perhaps it is time they be put to the same test? Read the Constitution, and stop violating our Liberty.
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    Accountability of power is essential to democracy.
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    Countable member David said: "The federal government has become extremely secretive and distant from the American public. Citizens are being put on secret lists (no fly list), groups are being singled out due to their political affiliation (IRS and the Tea Party). The FBI demands unlimited access to citizens personal information (Apple iPhones). Due process of law is being eroded by our politicians and bureaucrats. We the people is becoming a meaningless phrase in our Constitution – our Constitution is being de facto nullified." David, I couldn't have said it better myself!
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    What diplomatic relationship could be damaged based on information one judge would see? And I believe even the judge would only get a redacted version or summary. Transparency should be ubiquitous for a democracy to function unless that transparency puts American interest in danger. Like I said I believe a judge reviewing a document and sealing it if it's found to be compromising does not put the U.S. in any danger.
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    The government classifies far too much material. They need to prove their need for secrecy, not just declare it.
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    The state is forever the enemy of the people. If knowledge is power, and our government is of the people, by the people, and for the people, then the people, not the state, should maintain the secrets. The people, not the state, gets the knowledge and the power. There's no "right to privacy" for the state.
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    We have a long history of seeing the Feds misuse the Patriot Act to destroy democracy instead of preserving it. The Feds should be held to the same standard as citizens!
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    It's time to throw open the doors of government secrecy. How else can we reestablish trust in our government?
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    As well as their usual bs phrase, "national security."
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    Public knowledge of government, and the accountability that that creates, is essential for our republic to operate.
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    Absolutely, no question.
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    It limits the power of government in certain situations, especially during trial. Protects our democracy as well.
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    Based on the level of corruption taken to the extreme by the Obama administration, and the manipulation of the DOJ and FBI, it's time the government answers to the people.
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    Our corporate congress and government keeps way too many secrets from our citizens.
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    This is the wrong avenue to address this problem. The level of classification determines the sensitivity of the material as it pertains to the national defense. (TOP SECRET = Grave Harm) thus the classification by itself should be the proof to the court. The issue to be addressed is the over classification of material.
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    The federal government has become extremely secretive and distant from the American public. Citizens are being put on secret lists (no fly list), groups are being singled out due to their political affiliation (IRS and the Tea Party). The FBI demands unlimited access to citizens personal information (Apple iPhones). Due process of law is being eroded by our politicians and bureaucrats. We the people is becoming a meaningless phrase in our Constitution – our Constitution is being de facto nullified.
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    Yes so that we can hold them accountable
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    3 branches of government need to hold each other in check.
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    Let's just call this "full disclosure." Certainly there will be times when National Security concerns will need to either be cleared or hidden via a judge. "Facts" can become very messy for the most "transparent" administration in US history. You may get dirty wallowing with Chicago pigs.
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    The excuse of state secrets and national security in withholding any information when not necessary is the seed of totalitarianism. If the state needs that many secrets, it's clearly doing something wrong.
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