Like Causes?

Install the App
TRY NOW

house Bill H.R. 4752

Does NASA Need to Make Permanent Human Space Settlement its Goal?

Argument in favor

There’s nothing wrong with setting goals, and it makes sense that NASA should aim to eventually have permanent human settlements in space as one of its objectives.

07/20/2016
Throughout history, humankind has endeavored to explore the world around us, to find new lands and settle them. I believe it is in our nature to look for what is beyond the horizon. We’re an inquisitive bunch this way. Especially us Americans. We have always pushed for, reached for, and strive for what we know is out there, or even if we don’t know, this has never deterred or stopped us from doing, from trying. Space is no different. During John F. Kennedy’s The New Frontier speech he proclaimed, “But I tell you the New Frontier is here, whether we seek it or not. Beyond that frontier are the uncharted areas of science and space, unsolved problems of peace and war, unconquered pockets of ignorance and prejudice, unanswered questions of poverty and surplus. It would be easier to shrink back from that frontier, to look to the safe mediocrity of the past, to be lulled by good intentions and high rhetoric.” And so what did we do on July 20th 1969? We landed on the moon. This is what makes America exceptional. We do the hard things. The things other people in other countries say can’t be done. This is what has and continues to make us the single greatest country in this world. I think more so now than ever, we need something that makes us feel this way again, that reminds us we are exceptional, that we are great. We are a deeply divided country currently, and I think that for us to establish a permanent space settlement would remind us that we are first and foremost Americans. That when we push through the rhetoric, we can work together and accomplish anything we pursue. I don’t doubt that for us to reach beyond low earth orbit would be expensive, and lives might even be lost in the pursuit of doing so. But think of that return on our investment. The things we would learn, new technologies that would evolve. The pride we would own as a result of this. We will have shown the rest of the world that we can go to the New Frontier, and we can conquer it. Just as those who have come before us have. More importantly, we will remind ourselves that we are not a nation of individuals, but we are first and foremost Americans.
Like (48)
Follow
Share
devintorres's Opinion
···
07/20/2016
NASA is an important issue for me. I support raising the budget for NASA as well as starting the groundwork for establishing a human civilization with the purpose of protecting life in the event of world destruction, mass extinction or other life ending events. We need to have the realization human life is too precious to be a one planet species.
Like (25)
Follow
Share
···
07/20/2016
With the human population increasing, we are going to reach a point in which terrestrial resources will be limited or exhausted. Seeking a settlement in space will push engineering innovations in sustainablity to the level needed to either maintain inhabitation of Earth or create a new habitable system for human survival beyond. The space race boosted scientific discovery and technology faster than ever witnessed our species history and the sustainablity race will likely do the same. Only good things for the future of humanity can come from this initiative. Although this would carry a large pricetag, a drowning crew does not argue the cost of a lifeboat when the ship is sinking.
Like (17)
Follow
Share

Argument opposed

Congress shouldn’t ask NASA to work towards such a lofty objective without providing substantial amounts of funding. Goals are only meaningful if they’re achieved.

Kaliegh's Opinion
···
07/20/2016
I think it's a great idea but before we put money into this we need to put money into our educational system.
Like (16)
Follow
Share
operaman's Opinion
···
07/20/2016
If we left space exploration up to NASA, we would be bumbling around looking for a powerful booster. Our space shuttle program ended without forethought and now we're left with Russia to move supplies and astronauts to our space station until recently, SpaceX, a private corporation has picked up the slack. Therefore, let's leave space exploration to SpaceX or ATK. Half the cost in half the time. Buy your stock now for future earnings.
Like (13)
Follow
Share
Eric's Opinion
···
07/20/2016
This Country is almost $20 trillion in debt. We need to fix things here before we start a project in outer space!
Like (11)
Follow
Share
    Throughout history, humankind has endeavored to explore the world around us, to find new lands and settle them. I believe it is in our nature to look for what is beyond the horizon. We’re an inquisitive bunch this way. Especially us Americans. We have always pushed for, reached for, and strive for what we know is out there, or even if we don’t know, this has never deterred or stopped us from doing, from trying. Space is no different. During John F. Kennedy’s The New Frontier speech he proclaimed, “But I tell you the New Frontier is here, whether we seek it or not. Beyond that frontier are the uncharted areas of science and space, unsolved problems of peace and war, unconquered pockets of ignorance and prejudice, unanswered questions of poverty and surplus. It would be easier to shrink back from that frontier, to look to the safe mediocrity of the past, to be lulled by good intentions and high rhetoric.” And so what did we do on July 20th 1969? We landed on the moon. This is what makes America exceptional. We do the hard things. The things other people in other countries say can’t be done. This is what has and continues to make us the single greatest country in this world. I think more so now than ever, we need something that makes us feel this way again, that reminds us we are exceptional, that we are great. We are a deeply divided country currently, and I think that for us to establish a permanent space settlement would remind us that we are first and foremost Americans. That when we push through the rhetoric, we can work together and accomplish anything we pursue. I don’t doubt that for us to reach beyond low earth orbit would be expensive, and lives might even be lost in the pursuit of doing so. But think of that return on our investment. The things we would learn, new technologies that would evolve. The pride we would own as a result of this. We will have shown the rest of the world that we can go to the New Frontier, and we can conquer it. Just as those who have come before us have. More importantly, we will remind ourselves that we are not a nation of individuals, but we are first and foremost Americans.
    Like (48)
    Follow
    Share
    I think it's a great idea but before we put money into this we need to put money into our educational system.
    Like (16)
    Follow
    Share
    NASA is an important issue for me. I support raising the budget for NASA as well as starting the groundwork for establishing a human civilization with the purpose of protecting life in the event of world destruction, mass extinction or other life ending events. We need to have the realization human life is too precious to be a one planet species.
    Like (25)
    Follow
    Share
    With the human population increasing, we are going to reach a point in which terrestrial resources will be limited or exhausted. Seeking a settlement in space will push engineering innovations in sustainablity to the level needed to either maintain inhabitation of Earth or create a new habitable system for human survival beyond. The space race boosted scientific discovery and technology faster than ever witnessed our species history and the sustainablity race will likely do the same. Only good things for the future of humanity can come from this initiative. Although this would carry a large pricetag, a drowning crew does not argue the cost of a lifeboat when the ship is sinking.
    Like (17)
    Follow
    Share
    If we left space exploration up to NASA, we would be bumbling around looking for a powerful booster. Our space shuttle program ended without forethought and now we're left with Russia to move supplies and astronauts to our space station until recently, SpaceX, a private corporation has picked up the slack. Therefore, let's leave space exploration to SpaceX or ATK. Half the cost in half the time. Buy your stock now for future earnings.
    Like (13)
    Follow
    Share
    This Country is almost $20 trillion in debt. We need to fix things here before we start a project in outer space!
    Like (11)
    Follow
    Share
    If NASA can raise the money, they can do whatever they want. Tax payers can't afford to play Star Trek until Congress gets of their butts and fixes the financial mess this Nation is in.
    Like (6)
    Follow
    Share
    With climate change on the rise, global tensions coming to a head, and an ever increasing global population with resources dwindling, NASA needs to prioritize finding viable places to live and work outside planet Earth
    Like (6)
    Follow
    Share
    With world population expected to top 9 billion this century if not more, we need to be considering the long game when it comes to resources. We can go on about the endeavoring human spirit and that's completely true, but I think our literal future will be decided by the space we have above us and how we decided to utilize it. Enabling NASA and private space companies to lead the world on colonizing space and making its resources available will allow the United States to continue its international leadership over the next several centuries. Let's not get left behind in space race part two.
    Like (4)
    Follow
    Share
    UPDATED 07/24/2016: "Exploration is in our nature. We began as wanderers, and we are wanderers still. We have lingered long enough on the shores of the cosmic ocean. We are ready at last to set sail for the stars." -- Carl Sagan, "Cosmos," p. 193 If the United States doesn't make this a goal, you can be sure that China or some other country will! I think we should do all we can to maintain a lead in space exploration, out of pride, if nothing else! But this is a worthwhile goal in my opinion. It will help to inspire the younger generations to dream big, study science and mathematics, and perhaps make many scientific breakthroughs that will benefit mankind. I wish I could live long enough to see an American set foot on Mars or Titan or some other celestial body! For that matter, I think it's a big mistake that the United States hasn't already planted a colony on the Moon, for military, scientific, and other purposes! I think it would be a dream come true for many lovers of science fiction, as well as scientists and anyone with a pioneering spirit! I say, "GO FOR IT, NASA!" Russia, China move closer to joint #moon, #Mars missions • The U.S. might soon see two of its Cold War adversaries move closer to an agreement on joint missions to colonize Mars and the moon. Russia and China discussed expanding their cooperation to explore outer space, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin told reporters Wednesday. The lead officials for Chinese-Russian relations announced plans for joint space exploration last April, suggesting they might establish a Sino-Russian base on the moon. One year later, they’ve added Mars to the discussion. “We’re developing an understanding for the rocket and space industry for possible interaction in such profound and technologically complex projects as the future exploration of the moon, Mars and piloted cosmonautics,” Mr. Rogozin said. The Russian vice-premier made the announcement during a talk with the heads of Russian regions and Chinese provinces and the managers of companies from both nations in Yekaterinburg, Russia. Mr. Rogozin said he and Chinese Vice-Premier Wang Yang discussed “cooperation in the nuclear sphere, and cooperation in the issues of interaction between our space agencies where there are such large projects.” Last month, during Russian President Vladimir Putin’s visit to Beijing, the two countries signed a pact setting out legal framework for protecting their rights to sensitive space technologies in joint projects like launch vehicles and rocket engines. This space-centered relationship first took off in 2014 when U.S.-led economic, financial, industrial and personnel sanctions pushed Moscow toward forming an alliance with Beijing. The Soviet Union helped pioneer space travel while China’s younger space program has sent 10 “taikonauts” into orbit in the past few years. China is set to launch its second space station into orbit in September, though experts are worried about China’s first satellite: its decaying orbit suggests it may crash back down to earth in the next couple of years. Meanwhile, Russia is developing a stealth bomber that can flying at hypersonic speeds, dropping nuclear bombs from space. According to the Kremlin, the the bomber is expected to take flight in 2020. http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/14/russia-china-move-closer-joint-moon-mars-missions/ #Obama Admin Letting #China, #Russia Gain Missile Edge • “It’s impossible to say that it’s provocative to develop defensive capabilities to protect your own people,” said Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee. “Our forbearance for all these years has gotten us nothing but greater vulnerabilities.” • In order to close capability gaps in space, a study from the Hudson Institute, prepared with input from former officials and military leaders, recommends the United States invest more in missile defense technology. It also recommends developing a space-based interceptor to complement land- and sea-based interceptors that make up the military’s ballistic missile defense system. This technology would take 10 years to develop, according to one estimate, and would cost between $26 billion and $30 billion. PHOTO: DF-21D anti-ship ballistic missiles displayed during a military parade in China / AP BY: Morgan Chalfant Follow @mchalfant16 July 14, 2016 5:00 am China, Russia, and rogue states like #Iran are investing in advanced missile technology that will threaten the United States. The Obama administration’s defense policy has lagged in the field of #missiledeterrence, according to a new study from the Hudson Institute prepared with input from former officials and military leaders. http://hudson.org/content/researchattachments/attachment/1499/20160627heinrichsspaceandtherighttoselfdefense.pdf Increasing shortcomings in U.S. #preparedness has encouraged other nations to prioritize development of missiles that threaten U.S. interests at home, abroad, and in space. Competitive powers like China and Russia have put significant resources toward developing anti-ship missiles, hypersonic glide vehicles, and other complex systems while the U.S. has continued to rely on limited missile deterrence. Rogue states like Iran and #NorthKorea also have made gains in missile technology development and #proliferation. “Countries like China, like Russia, like North Korea and Iran have been devoting a tremendous amount of resources to denying our access to space as well as providing their own capabilities to take advantage of it offensively,” former Senate Minority Whip #JonKyl (R., Ariz.) said in Washington, D.C. on Wednesday, standing alongside Sen. #TomCotton (R., Ark.) and retired Army Gen. #CharlesJacoby, the former commander of U.S. Northern Command, at an event promoting the study. The Obama administration has limited its defense systems to avoid upsetting China and Russia. “We have made clear both in our policy and in the capabilities we have deployed that our homeland defense is not intended to affect the strategic balance with Russia and China,” said Frank Rose, the assistant secretary for the bureau of arms control, verification, and compliance at the State Department, during remarks at a missile defense conference in June 2015. http://www.state.gov/t/avc/rls/2015/243776.htm The Hudson Institute study finds that this approach has encouraged competition, inciting adversaries to pursue weapons that can target U.S. vulnerabilities. “It’s impossible to say that it’s provocative to develop defensive capabilities to protect your own people,” said Cotton, a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee. “Our forbearance for all these years has gotten us nothing but greater vulnerabilities.” The technological advances of these nations pose a particular challenge to U.S. space systems. Both China and Russia have tested anti-satellite missiles—Russia as recently as May—and prioritized their space weapons programs. Without proper countermeasures, these missiles could destroy U.S. satellites. “We’ve become very reliant in some of our most important functions in warfighting, and in the economy, and in entertainment and how we live, very reliant on space-based technologies,” Jacoby said Wednesday. “Now we have to face reality, and because we are so reliant on them. In many ways, space-based systems have become a center of gravity for us in different functions of command and control. You can’t leave this to chance and vulnerability.” Iran and North Korea have also tested and developed ballistic missiles in defiance of international sanctions, and have used their space programs to advance their missile programs. One of the primary concessions the United States offered Iran in the nuclear deal finalized one year ago was relaxed restrictions on Tehran’s missile program. In order to close capability gaps in space, the study recommends the United States invest more in missile defense technology. It also recommends developing a space-based interceptor to complement land- and sea-based interceptors that make up the military’s ballistic missile defense system. This technology would take 10 years to develop, according to one estimate, and would cost between $26 billion and $30 billion. “[A space-based interceptor] capability would dramatically augment U.S. terrestrial- and sea-based defensive capabilities, reduce the demands upon current systems, and provide the United States with the optimal vantage point for destroying enemy missiles regardless of their launch or target location, whether on land, at sea, in the air, or in space,” the report states. “A critical benefit of [a space-based interceptor] layer is the ability to destroy many missiles during their boost phase, while the missile is still over enemy territory and before the enemy can deploy their nuclear warheads, counter- measures, and decoys.” The George W. Bush administration unsuccessfully pushed Congress to begin funding a space-based interceptor program, in addition to other plans to bolster missile defenses in Europe. The Obama administration scaled back the Europe efforts, even as tensions with Russia have escalated to levels not seen since the Cold War. Lawmakers have sought to boost missile defense through provisions included in annual defense legislation for the next fiscal year, though the president has threatened to veto the bills. The report also makes the case for the U.S. Strategic Command to conduct “space force application” missions, or combat operations in and from space. This goal would require the United States to overcome limits on the scope and technical ability of its missile defense policy. “Remaining vulnerable to current missile threats is to knowingly place the security of Americans and the United States’ military pre-eminence at the mercy of countries like China, Russia, North Korea, and Iran. This is highly unstable, and because it is technically avoidable, wholly unacceptable,” the study concludes. The study’s senior review group included a number of prominent former officials and military leaders, including Jacoby and Kyl, as well as former Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Eric Edelman, former NASA administrator Michael Griffin, and retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Henry Obering, former director of the Missile Defense Agency. http://freebeacon.com/national-security/obama-admin-letting-china-russia-gain-missile-edge/
    Like (4)
    Follow
    Share
    Our energy and funds should be focused on saving this planet before it goes to settling the next.
    Like (4)
    Follow
    Share
    Since we're trashing this planet, we'll be needing another one so we can ruin it too.
    Like (3)
    Follow
    Share
    Projects such as this are some of the most important of our time. Like many other endeavors to which their is no immediate short term gain financially or militarily speaking, it is often difficult to garner popular support. However, it is these projects that truly propel the human species forward and remind us of the lofty goals for the progress of civilization. Every dollar spent adding to the collective knowledge is money very well spent!
    Like (3)
    Follow
    Share
    Space is the place
    Like (3)
    Follow
    Share
    Definitely a goal that needs to be pursued to ensure the future of humanity. Now we just need a bill to increase NASA funding
    Like (3)
    Follow
    Share
    This is absurd. I can't take this seriously until we can focus on fixing the planet we are on.
    Like (3)
    Follow
    Share
    It would be Americas space-golden age and the day we reach a beacon of light as well! You know during the time period of the Cold War the United States and the Soviet Union (Russia presently) was two uprising superpowers influencing the universe with thriving technology, advanced militarization, colonization, trade, manufacturing, and political ideologies that have impacted our values today. When The ISS (International Space Station) was established the United States was meant to implement its technological capabilities by conducting a historic landing on the moon. We not only evidently succeeded in landing a men on the moon first incorporating Lee Armstrong, And Buzz Aldrin. Additionally we achieved the first landing of a dog as well. This was a period in time in which the industrial revolution and past innovative inventions by corporations and well known blue collard heros (inventors, engineers, constructors, and intelligent hard working souls) was a factor that resulted in our transportational space exploration being greatly evolved. But this isn't about beating other nations and proving the oligarchs of Russia and experts wrong. It's about how America must continue to invest in innovative technology by utilizing advanced implementations by our future and present leaders to bring back the golden ages of Americas space exploration, establishing new societies in the abroad where we can regulate advanced technologies and new capabilities to enhance the explicit values and advancement of MAN KIND! Regulating reliable technology to iconically achieve the expansion of our lands Unites our nation positively with our allies more and possibly come together to have a common ground with our enemies for the sake of civilization. America is the greatest NATION ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, PERIOD!! AMERICA HAS OVERCOME THE DEVASTATING DAYS AND TRANSFERRED IT TO GOLDEN AGES. MARK MY WORDS "AMERICA CAN ACHIEVE ANYTHING IF THEY SET THEIR MIND TO IT"- Myself. Thank you for your time.
    Like (3)
    Follow
    Share
    Let's focus on our planet before we allocate massive amounts of money to settling another. It would be wrong to give NASA such a lofty goal without giving them the proper resources to accomplish it.
    Like (2)
    Follow
    Share
    NASA needs to set far more lofty goals than even this. What about the problem we have with plastic litter flooding our oceans? What about all these toxic/nuclear waste substances that we need to get rid of? Can we ever put an end to garbage landfilling? I am obviously no rocket scientist, but isn't there some sort of way that we can dump our waste into the cosmos? With the laws of inertia in space, missiles launched into the outer atmosphere would drift away from our planet forever once they break into space. I would rather our garbage land on the deserts of Mars than our own oceans. We don't live on Mars as of yet, my friends!
    Like (2)
    Follow
    Share
    NASA needs to be funded more, and set short term, more realistic goals, on the way toward human colonization on martian land
    Like (2)
    Follow
    Share
    MORE