house Bill H.R. 2543
Should All Relevant Federal Agencies Get Access to Social Security’s ‘Death Master File’ to Prevent Improper Payments to Deceased People?
Argument in favor
Improper payments to deceased people cost the federal government and, by extension, taxpayers. This form of government waste could be reduced by giving all federal agencies access to the Social Security Administration’s Death Master File, which is the most up-to-date list of deaths in the U.S.
05/31/2019
Why the Devil 😈 Shouldn’t INFORMATION Be Provided to All Agencies?
Improper payments to deceased people cost the federal government and, by extension, taxpayers. This form of government waste could be reduced by giving all federal agencies access to the Social Security Administration’s Death Master File, which is the most up-to-date list of deaths in the U.S.
SneakyPete..... 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻. 5.31.19.....
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05/31/2019
Hell yes we should I pay enough out of my pocket for welfare fraud and Workmen’s Comp. fraud if we can stop the zombies from getting into my pocket we should
05/31/2019
Yes because benefits are not just paid by SSA. They are paid by military retirement, federal government retirement, VA disability payments. I imagine there are many more. If the funeral director does not report the death to the correct agencies or a family member with direct deposit anymore the checks just keep coming. If the not so honest family member doesn’t report it, well that is stealing.
Argument opposed
Not all federal agencies need access to complete death records in order to carry out their work. In the interest of preserving the privacy of the deceased and those close them, it’s best to restrict access to the Death Master File as much as possible.
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05/31/2019
Absolutely not. I, for one, don't want ALL federal agencies involved in monitoring anymore about me than is absolutely needed. Appropriate agencies already have or should have access. Why would other agencies need this information? I think that this bill is meaningless and cannot figure out why it was even proposed. Since there is no obvious reason that I can surmise, I have to believe that it is proposed for some hidden reason, to the benefit of someone or something else. I'm sorry, but until I see realistic action to hold the current power-abusers and great-deceivers accountable, I am suspicious of of any legislation that does not address clearly needed changes.
05/31/2019
All? Only the agencies that pay benefits need access to the Death file. USGS doesn’t need the death file. DOD, EPA, GaF... there are more agencies that Don’t need it than do. No. This is way to broad. And yes I see it says “relevant” here on countable,but GO READ THE ACTUAL BILL.
05/31/2019
Absolutely not. I'm sorry but too much of our personal information is being shared with agencies that shouldn't have it. How the hell do we know if these agencies and it's employees can be trusted with the info. Why the hell doesn't Soc. Sec. do a better job of keeping track of beneficiaries? At the time of a recipient's death the system should purge that recipients information so that benefits cease being sent. If the Social Security Admin. doesn't do this, then it's their fault when unscrupulous people steal said benefits....
Why the Devil 😈 Shouldn’t INFORMATION Be Provided to All Agencies?
Improper payments to deceased people cost the federal government and, by extension, taxpayers. This form of government waste could be reduced by giving all federal agencies access to the Social Security Administration’s Death Master File, which is the most up-to-date list of deaths in the U.S.
SneakyPete..... 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻. 5.31.19.....
Absolutely not. I, for one, don't want ALL federal agencies involved in monitoring anymore about me than is absolutely needed. Appropriate agencies already have or should have access. Why would other agencies need this information? I think that this bill is meaningless and cannot figure out why it was even proposed. Since there is no obvious reason that I can surmise, I have to believe that it is proposed for some hidden reason, to the benefit of someone or something else. I'm sorry, but until I see realistic action to hold the current power-abusers and great-deceivers accountable, I am suspicious of of any legislation that does not address clearly needed changes.
All? Only the agencies that pay benefits need access to the Death file. USGS doesn’t need the death file. DOD, EPA, GaF... there are more agencies that Don’t need it than do. No. This is way to broad. And yes I see it says “relevant” here on countable,but GO READ THE ACTUAL BILL.
Absolutely not. I'm sorry but too much of our personal information is being shared with agencies that shouldn't have it. How the hell do we know if these agencies and it's employees can be trusted with the info. Why the hell doesn't Soc. Sec. do a better job of keeping track of beneficiaries? At the time of a recipient's death the system should purge that recipients information so that benefits cease being sent. If the Social Security Admin. doesn't do this, then it's their fault when unscrupulous people steal said benefits....
Hell yes we should I pay enough out of my pocket for welfare fraud and Workmen’s Comp. fraud if we can stop the zombies from getting into my pocket we should
I believe there is great room for misuse and mistakes that would cause unnecessary harm and abuse. I have seen the irreparable harm caused when people maliciously or in a prank gone very wrong declare their family member or generally former friend dead. It’s a switch of really only one or two numbers in a computer but it is almost impossible to prove you are alive to our government. Talk about trying to prove a negative. If you had to do so to numerous agencies, it probably would kill you. Just say no..
Yes because benefits are not just paid by SSA. They are paid by military retirement, federal government retirement, VA disability payments. I imagine there are many more. If the funeral director does not report the death to the correct agencies or a family member with direct deposit anymore the checks just keep coming. If the not so honest family member doesn’t report it, well that is stealing.
It should ONLY be available as very limited information such as for verification of the death itself *only* to upgrade and update voting registries BY CERTIFIED WRITTEN REQUEST ONLY. DEFINITELY not a good idea to make it available to ALL.
Yes. If they are relevant agencies, then they should have the information to make decisions.
No, why would you open it to all agencies, why not have something in the system that gives a weekly notification of all issued death certificates to all agencies. If they fail to remove them their budget gets cut the amount that they allowed to be paid! Why is it that we make work around a for people that don’t do their job!!
Since Social Security maintains the master file, SS should improve on their processes to ensure an accurate file. Then other agencies (associated with benefits) can have access to the file, but with limited needed data, i.e., name, ss # and date of death. There is no need for them to have access to all data.
Why does the ENTIRE federal government need access to this? Absolutely not.
I was under the impression, that was or should be going on now..
Sure. I’m for anything that will crack down on waste, fraud & abuse. How about fully funding & staffing the CFPB & going after billionaire & corporate tax evaders?
This administration has assumed too much authoritative power to give it access to such personal information. The mistrust it has earned requires me to say “no way!”