house Bill H.R. 172
Should the Johnson Amendment be Repealed to Let Churches and Tax-Exempt Groups Engage in Politics?
Argument in favor
Churches and other religious or secular tax-exempt organizations have the right to free speech just as much as individuals and businesses, and as a result they should be able to participate in political campaigns without losing their privileged tax status.
05/07/2017
Taxation is not a prerequisite for free speech. It is not a privilege purchased from government, but rather is a natural right. Make all groups, organizations, and individuals tax-exempt, and let them say whatever they want. It is a false tradeoff that you EITHER don't pay taxes OR can say whatever you want, as if paying taxes purchases your right to free speech. Simply false. You have a right to your speech AND you have a right to your property. Freedom of speech is not bestowed by government in exchange for being a tax payer - it is a natural right that is protected FROM government BY the Constitution. That goes for you as an individual, that goes for businesses, that goes for nonprofits, and that goes for religious organizations. Voting no means replacing the right to free speech with a tax-dependent privilege of free speech. Vote yes if you're not a tyrant.
05/07/2017
It's interesting that people continue commenting "separation of church and state". If you look at the constitution it clearly states that the government cannot establish a specific religion or religious practices within the establishment clause. It also has something called the free exercise clause which allows every citizen of the United States to exercise their religion and their religious beliefs. Also the freedom of speech gives EVERYONE the right to say what the believe. There should be no interference with this right. This bill is not constitutional.
Argument opposed
Tax exempt organizations — whether they’re churches or not — shouldn’t be able to get involved in political campaigns and endorse candidates while maintaining their tax exempt status. It’s inappropriate to mix politics with religious institutions.
05/07/2017
We need to protect the separation of church and state! Keep church influence out of politics. We also need to protect each citizen's religious freedom; the politicians trying to push this bill are the same who flip out over sharia law. No one should have to ever live under someone else's religion or be subjected to someone else's beliefs.
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05/07/2017
An impenetrable wall needs to be built between Church and State. The human race has already lived through a time when the Church ruled- it was called the Dark Ages!!!
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05/07/2017
No. This is not what churches are for and it would violate The Establishment Clause. Vote against further attempts to erode the First Amendment.
Taxation is not a prerequisite for free speech. It is not a privilege purchased from government, but rather is a natural right. Make all groups, organizations, and individuals tax-exempt, and let them say whatever they want. It is a false tradeoff that you EITHER don't pay taxes OR can say whatever you want, as if paying taxes purchases your right to free speech. Simply false. You have a right to your speech AND you have a right to your property. Freedom of speech is not bestowed by government in exchange for being a tax payer - it is a natural right that is protected FROM government BY the Constitution. That goes for you as an individual, that goes for businesses, that goes for nonprofits, and that goes for religious organizations. Voting no means replacing the right to free speech with a tax-dependent privilege of free speech. Vote yes if you're not a tyrant.
We need to protect the separation of church and state! Keep church influence out of politics. We also need to protect each citizen's religious freedom; the politicians trying to push this bill are the same who flip out over sharia law. No one should have to ever live under someone else's religion or be subjected to someone else's beliefs.
An impenetrable wall needs to be built between Church and State. The human race has already lived through a time when the Church ruled- it was called the Dark Ages!!!
No. This is not what churches are for and it would violate The Establishment Clause. Vote against further attempts to erode the First Amendment.
Pay taxes and speak your mind or remain exempt from taxes and remain silent. Trade offs.
This bill isn't about "free speech," it's about religious groups "engaging in political activities." This is dangerous because it paves the way for a religion-sponsored state, which is only a few steps removed from a state-sponsored religion; something our founders explicitly sought to prevent. And if you're a Christian who finds this outcome appealing, please realize this applies to ALL religious institutions: if churches can get involved in politics, then mosques and covens can, too.
Church and state should be SEPARATE. Completely. 100% separate. That is not the case in the US today and that is a dangerous shame.
Noooo. As for Miles who doesn't understand anything beyond the Bible. Ok Miles a few simple words. Tax Exemption. If churches want to pay taxes on the billions they take in annually be my guest tell your flock who god wants them to vote for. The church has done enough damage to the world that we don't need them making decisions for us again. That was the dark ages. We are now kind of free from the churches and don't need the hatred they spew. We already have enough of that. I'm sure the churches violate this law every day anyways
Separation of church and state is one of the basic principles of government in this great country and must be continued/upheld.
My husband and I worked together in ministry for almost 15 years before he recently moved into a secular job. Our family has always been politically active, and my husband, as a minister, has always had political opinions. He's never shared those opinions from the pulpit, though, because there is a time and a place for sharing political opinions and that is NOT as part of the work of a church. A church, or temple, or chapel, or any house of worship should be just that - a house of worship, not of politics. That doesn't squelch a minister, pastor, priest, or rabbi's freedom of speech; it just separates their action of speaking their political beliefs from their role as spiritual leader of an organization. That separation, I think, is a good and healthy thing.
Of course not!! We are set up with separation of church & state for reasons having nothing to do with religious beliefs and everything to do with people's ability to oppress using their own beliefs vs . "Others." This is religious corruption from which many escaped to our country to pursue religious freedom. Those now, who want to empower religious institutions, do so to give religions a voice in government. The thought is untenable in the U S A.
Absolutely not. Christians already are trying to run roughshod over the rest of us with their hate and bigotry. Don't give them more power to discriminate! Separation of church and state is a cornerstone of this country.
I agree with those saying that church and state must be kept separate. I imagine those who want otherwise only want it because they imagine their group will always be the one in charge.
It's interesting that people continue commenting "separation of church and state". If you look at the constitution it clearly states that the government cannot establish a specific religion or religious practices within the establishment clause. It also has something called the free exercise clause which allows every citizen of the United States to exercise their religion and their religious beliefs. Also the freedom of speech gives EVERYONE the right to say what the believe. There should be no interference with this right. This bill is not constitutional.
If a business can funnel money into politics why can't a church