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house Bill H.R. 1573

Should People in Customs & Border Patrol Custody Have Legal Counsel?

Argument in favor

Everyone, regardless of legal status or ability to pay, should have access to legal counsel if they’re detained by Customs and Border Patrol (CBP). Ensuring access to both legal counsel and interested parties is one means of helping ensure that people in CBP custody have the best chance to defend their own interests and make their cases to the U.S. government.

jimK's Opinion
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04/21/2021
Access to our legal processes pertains to all people in this country, particularly those being forcibly detained by our country. Most industrialized democracies honor the rights of people to have legal representation so that legal processes can be expedited by courts with legal representatives who know the rules and can provide representation in a way that helps assure that justice is done and someone is not mistreated because they did not know or understand some of the arcane procedures required by our court systems. If we are going to detain than we must provide legal representation just like most of the democracies spawned from our prior examples. The fact that the trump dismantled much of the systems required and dispersed many of the people doing this work means that it has to be rebuilt. Perhaps we should enact an immigrant support tax on every voter who voted for the trump. You know all of the people demanding that everyone should be fully accountable for their own mistakes, kind of a put up or shut up moment. Now that seems to be a fair and equitable solution to prevent the many from shouldering the expenses caused by the irresponsible behavior of the few.
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Dorothy's Opinion
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04/21/2021
Of course they should have legal counsel, they are not slaves or property. Hopefully those days are over. We saw what happens when there is no counsel these last four years. You are thrown into concentration camps, denied basic human decency, hygiene, food, abused sexually and physically, families separated... and that’s by GQP; not to mention what ICE and border patrol thugs did. Talk about crimes against humanity. Welcome to the home of the twisted and perverts... USA. Should they have counsel??? Fuck YES
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Brian's Opinion
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04/21/2021
Yes, anyone facing trial in the United States should be granted legal counsel, no matter their status or situation. It's only just. Anything less would be a violation of human rights.
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Argument opposed

There’s nothing keeping people in CBP custody from retaining legal counsel, or preventing people with family members in CBP custody from retaining legal representation for their loved ones. This bill is unnecessary at best, and at worst adds a bureaucratic burden to the Dept. of Homeland Security’s operations at a time when it’s already struggling to address large numbers of migrants at the southern border and operational challenges during a pandemic.

B.R.'s Opinion
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04/21/2021
I would not support this bill as written. Issue of payment of legal services aside, in short, I would support this for those who follow the US process, but would NOT support for those who are illegally entering. Once again, the operative word is "ILLEGAL". Why would we want to build on a illegal foundation? Why do we have laws if we are not going to abide by them?
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Freethinker's Opinion
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04/21/2021
Might as well roll out the red carpet. Is it an open border or not? At least tell us otherwise this is just more bureaucratic malarkey to help illegal aliens become citizens.
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Robert's Opinion
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04/21/2021
In one word, NO! They crossed the border illegally, they were not asked to come here, why should we fit the bill for their legal costs? I understand the plight in their countries, we did not cause this problem. What happens to all of the foreign aid given to these countries? Corrupt government members steal the money to improve their living, leaving the rest to find what they can. Kind of sounds like the democrats in this country. As the sectary of state recently said “ in order for this country to become carbon emission zero some jobs will have to be sacrificed”. When did we build a bubble that covers the US? China continues to pollute and builds coal fired power plants with the blessing of the Biden administration. The workers and economy of the US are being sacrificed so the demoncrats can look good to the rest of the world. They need to be putting American first not last. Makes me think they don’t care about their own country or it’s citizens!
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    Access to our legal processes pertains to all people in this country, particularly those being forcibly detained by our country. Most industrialized democracies honor the rights of people to have legal representation so that legal processes can be expedited by courts with legal representatives who know the rules and can provide representation in a way that helps assure that justice is done and someone is not mistreated because they did not know or understand some of the arcane procedures required by our court systems. If we are going to detain than we must provide legal representation just like most of the democracies spawned from our prior examples. The fact that the trump dismantled much of the systems required and dispersed many of the people doing this work means that it has to be rebuilt. Perhaps we should enact an immigrant support tax on every voter who voted for the trump. You know all of the people demanding that everyone should be fully accountable for their own mistakes, kind of a put up or shut up moment. Now that seems to be a fair and equitable solution to prevent the many from shouldering the expenses caused by the irresponsible behavior of the few.
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    I would not support this bill as written. Issue of payment of legal services aside, in short, I would support this for those who follow the US process, but would NOT support for those who are illegally entering. Once again, the operative word is "ILLEGAL". Why would we want to build on a illegal foundation? Why do we have laws if we are not going to abide by them?
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    Of course they should have legal counsel, they are not slaves or property. Hopefully those days are over. We saw what happens when there is no counsel these last four years. You are thrown into concentration camps, denied basic human decency, hygiene, food, abused sexually and physically, families separated... and that’s by GQP; not to mention what ICE and border patrol thugs did. Talk about crimes against humanity. Welcome to the home of the twisted and perverts... USA. Should they have counsel??? Fuck YES
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    Yes, anyone facing trial in the United States should be granted legal counsel, no matter their status or situation. It's only just. Anything less would be a violation of human rights.
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    What is common practice elsewhere? It stands to reason that petitioners get legal counsel if only to ensure a modicum of fairness.
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    Of course! These are human beings, probably in hardship, who are in a terrifying position without anyone to guide them. Any decent government would insist on providing them help!
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    Might as well roll out the red carpet. Is it an open border or not? At least tell us otherwise this is just more bureaucratic malarkey to help illegal aliens become citizens.
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    Yes, and should consult them frequently. Even if you think you know the answer, there are times, even after the fact, that consultation with a legal expert is valuable. Someone coming into the country are even more in need of counsel due to unfamiliarity with our laws and procedures.
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    This would benefit many people who do not know the English language well enough to interpret law and allow them to better understand their rights as well as access legal representation
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    In one word, NO! They crossed the border illegally, they were not asked to come here, why should we fit the bill for their legal costs? I understand the plight in their countries, we did not cause this problem. What happens to all of the foreign aid given to these countries? Corrupt government members steal the money to improve their living, leaving the rest to find what they can. Kind of sounds like the democrats in this country. As the sectary of state recently said “ in order for this country to become carbon emission zero some jobs will have to be sacrificed”. When did we build a bubble that covers the US? China continues to pollute and builds coal fired power plants with the blessing of the Biden administration. The workers and economy of the US are being sacrificed so the demoncrats can look good to the rest of the world. They need to be putting American first not last. Makes me think they don’t care about their own country or it’s citizens!
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    We as a nation provides legal counsel to people that come before the courts all the time for all sorts of reason, even in deportation. This would stop the blanket fast track wholesale deportation, which is illegal. Individuals have a right to present their case and have counsel whether they can pay or not! We are a nation of rules, laws and processes, not just the well connected, elitist or privileged. This is a country of poor and downtrodden, built by them. We didn’t reject people from Cuba, boat people or others, how is this different? Like I have said many times, whether US or EU, to stop the migration you have to fix their country problems.
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    Absolutely, having legal representatives will help non citizens understand the process and hopefully overcome barriers to their admittance.
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    Off topic, under “You’ve got to be kidding me” followed by a snort of disgust. You know, the following piques my interest in moving to Florida just so I can vote the “wrong way.” Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd proposed a simple solution on Monday. "So we only want to share one thing as you move in hundreds a day," Judd said at a news conference, with Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis to his left. "Welcome to Florida. But don't register to vote and vote the stupid way you did up north, or you'll get what they got.".... https://www.businessinsider.com/florida-sheriff-dont-register-to-vote-ron-desantis-video-2021-4 Judd was referring to a hallmark piece of legislation, championed and recently signed by DeSantis, that classifies a riot as three or more people, grants civil immunity to motorists who run over protesters, and prevents people accused of rioting from posting bail until their first court appearance.”
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    FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! Stop this spending madness! Of people are detained there is likely a reason. Now we are going to PAY for their legal counsel! What is wrong with our government, they have no clue how the majority of American’s live! We can’t afford these outlandish ideas!
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    Yes. Every human being has a right to legal counsel. End of discussion.
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    There was not a maybe option. I’d have to read the full details. Those seeking legitimate asylum should have access to legal advice in filing their asylum claims. Those caught crossing illegally and just trying to enter illegally should not.
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    We’ve made it complicated so having legal counsel make sense. Let’s work towards seeking the right solution instead of wasting people’s time and effort. Jay, why not provide legal representation for these people? Do you think that Donald will have legal representation when he answers for not paying his taxes and cheating in his business and election activities? How about the criminals that invaded the Congress, attacked the police, threatened citizens and tried to overturn the Constitution? These potential immigrants have done so much less than the criminals Republicans pay allegiance to.
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    Knowledge is power. Migrants are penitents who need help. Part of that help are lawyers who know how to deal with the our Byzantine immigration laws.
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    Of course they should have that option! The government should first hear their case before taking irreversible actions. Just because they are immigrants without citizenship does not mean they should not be entitled to certain rights. This right is absolutely vital when it comes to CBP and ICE.
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    Detainees already have access to legal counsel and advice. The goal of this bill is to create so many encumbrances that the government will find it more expedient to allow the illegal alien to remain in the US, thus gaining another vote for the Democrat Party. I say no.
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