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house Bill H.R. 122

Should the Federal Minimum Wage Exceed $13 an Hour?

Argument in favor

Economic inequality is rampant in the U.S. today. Raising the minimum wage will ensure that workers can support themselves and their families while helping in the economy grow in a sustainable way.

Demitri's Opinion
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03/11/2017
As a small business owner, I'm conflicted here. But in the end, paying someone so little that at full time they are below the poverty line - then something's wrong. Maybe a good companion to this is the maximum wage - CEOs of WalMart and the like shouldn't be able to make X percent more than their lowest paid worker.
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Dylan's Opinion
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03/11/2017
Federal minimum wage should increase at the same rate of inflation.
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Thomas.C's Opinion
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03/11/2017
No matter what we will always need workers who do the blue collar jobbs that many look down on. Just because some look down on these necessary careers does not mean they don't deserve the ability to feed their families for their work. Not to mention the countless economic benefits to the local economy it would bring to areas. We cannot have a consumer-based economy if no one can afford to consume!
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Why should the minimum wage for a single person with no dependents be above the poverty level for a family of four? This bill will cost people their jobs and increase unemployment.

Tyler.Liberty's Opinion
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03/11/2017
Artificially raising the price of labor will not alter the market price of labor. This will hurt everyone; especially the poor, and is against liberty and freedom, especially in the marketplace. Caring is good, but you're not caring at all if you ignore real consequences.
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Jaggirl54's Opinion
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03/11/2017
Small businesses are already struggling between taxes and healthcare. Raising the minimum wage would put more small businesses out of business. A good portion of what is available as a workforce doesn't deserve a $13 an hour wage. They are an entitled bunch of whining babies who can't put in a full days work and feel as though they are entitled to more than they deserve. Very few, if any, knows what a work ethic is and are afraid to get their hands dirty. They're too good to do what is necessary to get ahead because Mommy and Daddy have made it too easy for them. Learn a trade, work your ass off and you just might earn that $13.00 an hour.
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TuckerWantsLiberty's Opinion
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03/11/2017
How can anyone who cares for their fellow man and who has even the most rudimentary understanding of the basics of economics support the minimum wage? This is yet another bill that hurts the very people it claims to try to help. Observe. Could Walmart afford to pay this rate? Probably. Could Target? Probably. Could the big companies? Probably. You know who can't? Small businesses. Start-ups. Mom and pop shops. So now their ability to grow and provide consumers and workers more options in the market is cut significantly. Speaking of workers themselves, let's talk about what a terrible thing this is for them. The minimum wage is marketed as "You'll get paid more!" In reality? You'll get paid more if your labor is already worth at least that much. But if you're unskilled and trying to find an opportunity to learn? "Sorry, teenager," or "Sorry, guy who didn't finish high school," or "Sorry, single mom who dropped out of community college, your labor is only worth $9/hour, so it doesn't make sense to keep you employed at $13/hour. Nothing to do with your value as a person, but you're not hired because of being a person. You're hired because of the work you do, and if your work isn't worth this arbitrary price floor then you're not staying employed. The government has told me that I'm not allowed to pay you less than this number, so my options are either to lose money intentionally or to let you go. And I'm sorry to say that our competitor down the street, where you otherwise may have been able to go look for a different job, closed because they couldn't afford this arbitrarily mandated wage." But say you're skilled labor, or at least sufficiently skilled or experienced to justify being paid that much, and you work for a big company. At that point this would be a good thing, right? Well yes, until the prices for everything you buy adjust. Because, you see, the grocery store and the department store and the gas station and the gym and the restaurant and your landlord, they all had their cost of doing business raised. They're having to pay this minimum wage to THEIR employees, too, and so they're probably having to raise their prices a bit in order to stay profitable. So that new income you're now receiving will pretty quickly evaporate amidst higher prices for, well, everything. So the minimum wage hurts small businesses and it hurts unskilled labor, and it really does nothing in the long run for skilled labor at big businesses. "But it needs to keep pace with inflation!" Well why is there inflation? What if we just stopped inflation? What if there wasn't a half-government, half-private institution that existed for the sole purpose of intentionally inflating our currency? How about we just fix the money instead of having this same inane debate every couple of years? Ending the Fed would do infinitely more to help the poor (and in fact to help everyone except the government) than would having another stop-gap increase in the minimum wage.
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    As a small business owner, I'm conflicted here. But in the end, paying someone so little that at full time they are below the poverty line - then something's wrong. Maybe a good companion to this is the maximum wage - CEOs of WalMart and the like shouldn't be able to make X percent more than their lowest paid worker.
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    Artificially raising the price of labor will not alter the market price of labor. This will hurt everyone; especially the poor, and is against liberty and freedom, especially in the marketplace. Caring is good, but you're not caring at all if you ignore real consequences.
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    Federal minimum wage should increase at the same rate of inflation.
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    No matter what we will always need workers who do the blue collar jobbs that many look down on. Just because some look down on these necessary careers does not mean they don't deserve the ability to feed their families for their work. Not to mention the countless economic benefits to the local economy it would bring to areas. We cannot have a consumer-based economy if no one can afford to consume!
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    We are long overdue for a wage increase.
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    I think giving people a livable wage is the least we can do. The minimum can vary slightly by region, but the lie that it will hurt business is nonsense.
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    Some of the hardest working people work minimum wage jobs. Some try to do so with families. It is unacceptable that a person can not maintain a minimum standard of living for themselves let alone their families that is above the poverty line. If it eats into businesses profits, tough, because the American worker has been overlooked for too long.
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    If you can live on 13 dollars an hour or less give it a try. Maybe we need to have all lawmakers make just minimum wage.
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    There are many studies in academic literature that increasing the minimum wage does not, in fact, proportionally increase unemployment. Wal-Mart themselves have seen an increase in profits since raising their minimum wage- if raising wages was bad for business, Wal-Mart would be the first to notice after their wage hike. Most businesses who pay minimum wage are actually large businesses, not small ones. Also, higher wages means more taxes and less welfare, which means less coming out of the pockets of tax-paying citizens as a whole. There are counter-arguments to my points, but I believe they become less valid as more studies come out that support an increased minimum wage
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    Make the minimum wage a living wage. Oh hell, who am I kidding. Trump isn't going to pay anyone but himself. Check out all these "frivolous" lawsuits against him: "Trump has been accused by hundreds of people of stiffing them on payments, in “60 lawsuits, along with hundreds of liens, judgments, and other government filings.” Among them: a dishwasher in Florida. A glass company in New Jersey. A carpet company. A plumber. Painters. Forty-eight waiters. Dozens of bartenders and other hourly workers at his resorts and clubs, coast to coast. Real estate brokers who sold his properties. And, ironically, several law firms that once represented him in these suits and others. Trump’s companies have also been cited for 24 violations of the Fair Labor Standards Act since 2005 for failing to pay overtime or minimum wage, according to U.S. Department of Labor data. That includes 21 citations against the defunct Trump Plaza in Atlantic City and three against the also out-of-business Trump Mortgage LLC in New York. Both cases were resolved by the companies agreeing to pay back wages. Not to mention more than 200 mechanic’s liens — filed by contractors and employees against Trump, his companies or his properties claiming they were owed money for their work — since the 1980s. The liens range from a $75,000 claim by a Plainview, N.Y., air conditioning and heating company to a $1 million claim from the president of a New York City real estate banking firm. On just one project, Trump’s Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City, records released by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission in 1990 show that at least 253 subcontractors weren’t paid in full or on time, including workers who installed walls, chandeliers and plumbing. In some cases, the Trump teams financially overpower and outlast much smaller opponents, draining their resources. Some just give up the fight, or settle for less; some have ended up in bankruptcy or out of business altogether. Like the family cabinetry firm that eventually folded because Trump refused to pay $83,600 for slot machine bases, bars, and registration desks at Harrah’s at Trump Plaza in Atlantic City. The dishwasher at Mar-A-Lago who had to sue to get paid for three years of unpaid overtime and eventually settled for $7,500. The real estate broker who handled hundreds of millions of dollars worth of property for Trump, but says she was shorted $735,212 in commissions on deals between 2009 to 2012 — as far as she could tell, Trump’s refusal to pay was “based on nothing more than whimsy.” The glass company owed over $1.5 million for work at the Trump Taj Mahal in Atlantic City, and who joined between 100 and 150 other small contractors to negotiate something better than the 30 cents on the dollar Trump was offering for the completed work. The cheap bastard even refused to pay his own lawyers at times." Make the minimum wage a living wage. And lets get this con artist out of office, shall we? http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/ Thanks to Vladimir who has pointed out the " Living Wage tool developed at MIT, livingwage.mit.edu"
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    Small businesses are already struggling between taxes and healthcare. Raising the minimum wage would put more small businesses out of business. A good portion of what is available as a workforce doesn't deserve a $13 an hour wage. They are an entitled bunch of whining babies who can't put in a full days work and feel as though they are entitled to more than they deserve. Very few, if any, knows what a work ethic is and are afraid to get their hands dirty. They're too good to do what is necessary to get ahead because Mommy and Daddy have made it too easy for them. Learn a trade, work your ass off and you just might earn that $13.00 an hour.
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    How can anyone who cares for their fellow man and who has even the most rudimentary understanding of the basics of economics support the minimum wage? This is yet another bill that hurts the very people it claims to try to help. Observe. Could Walmart afford to pay this rate? Probably. Could Target? Probably. Could the big companies? Probably. You know who can't? Small businesses. Start-ups. Mom and pop shops. So now their ability to grow and provide consumers and workers more options in the market is cut significantly. Speaking of workers themselves, let's talk about what a terrible thing this is for them. The minimum wage is marketed as "You'll get paid more!" In reality? You'll get paid more if your labor is already worth at least that much. But if you're unskilled and trying to find an opportunity to learn? "Sorry, teenager," or "Sorry, guy who didn't finish high school," or "Sorry, single mom who dropped out of community college, your labor is only worth $9/hour, so it doesn't make sense to keep you employed at $13/hour. Nothing to do with your value as a person, but you're not hired because of being a person. You're hired because of the work you do, and if your work isn't worth this arbitrary price floor then you're not staying employed. The government has told me that I'm not allowed to pay you less than this number, so my options are either to lose money intentionally or to let you go. And I'm sorry to say that our competitor down the street, where you otherwise may have been able to go look for a different job, closed because they couldn't afford this arbitrarily mandated wage." But say you're skilled labor, or at least sufficiently skilled or experienced to justify being paid that much, and you work for a big company. At that point this would be a good thing, right? Well yes, until the prices for everything you buy adjust. Because, you see, the grocery store and the department store and the gas station and the gym and the restaurant and your landlord, they all had their cost of doing business raised. They're having to pay this minimum wage to THEIR employees, too, and so they're probably having to raise their prices a bit in order to stay profitable. So that new income you're now receiving will pretty quickly evaporate amidst higher prices for, well, everything. So the minimum wage hurts small businesses and it hurts unskilled labor, and it really does nothing in the long run for skilled labor at big businesses. "But it needs to keep pace with inflation!" Well why is there inflation? What if we just stopped inflation? What if there wasn't a half-government, half-private institution that existed for the sole purpose of intentionally inflating our currency? How about we just fix the money instead of having this same inane debate every couple of years? Ending the Fed would do infinitely more to help the poor (and in fact to help everyone except the government) than would having another stop-gap increase in the minimum wage.
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    In a nation with millions of people living in poverty I absolutely support raising the minimum wage to a livable wage. We need to increase the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour.
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    This will never pass the house let alone the Senate. Raising minimum-wage to this level would only result in higher unemployment and greater cost for goods and services that will go up because of this artificial market distortion.
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    Government can do nothing but create market distortion. Free market wages, period. A minimum wage helps no body only further devalues the dollar
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    Let's dispel with the idea that people on minimum wage do less work. They do work that the market, or companies, or culture finds less valuable. They do, by and large, more (2-3 jobs, 60+ hours) and harder work than those that make astronomically more money than them. Living wage means being able to feed, house, and consume the necessities of living and life in the American economy in return for playing your part in this economy, this country. Next, move past the idea that raising or setting a minimum wage is bad for the economy--specifically, this economy. Most American employers for too long have taken advantage of our free market system and the poor and working class have suffered a violence beyond imagination because of it. If the minimum wage rises, it would be to where it should be in today's economy. That means prices should not rise in kind. That means more money at the bottom, more money in circulation through the consumer, more homeowners, less inequality, less people on social welfare, more liberty and freedom overall, and a boom not seen since after WWII. A better country. A living wage, work hour guarantees, unionization, and greater worker protection builds on our current recovery. This bill is a start, and it is more reasonable than others. If Trump really wants to help his WWC voters and "make America great", this is how. If I would change anything in the living wage debate, it would be shifting it to either scale for or ensure ways to protect small businesses. I know there are some federal regulations that are gloves that don't fit the whole hand, so including small businesses into this and other conversations is as necessary as raising the wage is.
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    The increase of the minimum wage would see the law of many jobs to automation. Sadly the future holds not many blue collar jobs.
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    Businesses do not deserve to thrive on the backs of the poor - this is modern day feudalism at best
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    Base pay increases of this size will only drive the cost of living higher. Many businesses don't have margins large enough to cover this increase in pay. If this passes be prepared for thousands of business to close.
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    Living expenses r too high wages too low
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