Teen and Father Charged With Murder After Georgia School Shooting

Our grandkids stayed home today because we got this msg / and school district posted an alert

will congress, judiciary, scotus stop this nonsense about 'freedom' 'second amendment' 'gun rights' etc and REMOVE ALL GUNS from public life / areas immediately so we can go about our lives in peace? 

 I support this and would very much like to see common sense gun control legislation passed to:  

1. Implement universal background checks & get rid of the gun show loophole

2. Make ghost guns, stabilizing braces, bump stocks and assault weapons illegal & institute a “buy-back program” & an anonymous tip line to identify individuals clinging to their illegal weapons.  

3. Remove weapons from & make it illegal for any person convicted of domestic abuse/assault with a weapon to buy/possess a gun

4. Limit the size of ammunition clips

5. Make gun trafficking a federal crime

6. Require therapists, counselors, teachers, hospitals/doctors to report individuals with mental illness who are a threat to themselves or others to law enforcement, to remove weapons, issue “gun restraining orders”, and make it illegal to purchase additional weapons. Note, there should also be a pathway to gun ownership once the person is no longer a danger.    

This kid should have had NO access to weapons at all!!!  You all have a lot of explaining to do to the victims & their families.  

Common sense dictates that you protect our kids. 

 Mother of Georgia shooter called the school day of the shooting, 30 minutes before the shooting. An administrator was trying to find the shooter but had confused the name with another student, and neither were in their classrooms.

The school and family were in contact 1week prior regarding Colt's mental state as he had homicidal and suicidal thoughts.

This is where red flag laws would help in delineating actions for all involved (parents, schools, law enforcement) instead of leaving it up to parents and schools to fumble their way through.

" Marcee Gray, the mother of the suspected shooter, 14-year-old Colt Gray, said she told the counselor to find her son immediately, the newspaper reported. Phone records provided by a relative to the Post show a 10-minute call to Apalachee High School in Winder, Georgia, at 9:50 a.m., about 30 minutes before the attack began."

 "The mother of the teenager suspected of killing four people during a Georgia school shooting called to warn a school counselor prior to the shooting, the suspect’s aunt and grandfather said Saturday."

"Colt Gray, 14, apologized to his mother Marcee Gray on the morning of the mass shooting at Apalachee High School — sending an alarming early-morning text that prompted the mother to warn the school, his grandfather told the New York Post."

"Marcee Gray’s father, Charles Polhamus, told the New York Post his daughter was at his home in Georgia on Wednesday morning when Colt texted her to say: “I’m sorry, mom.”

"Annie Brown [sister of shooter's mother] told the Washington Post that her sister, Colt Gray’s mother, texted her saying she spoke with a school counselor and urged them to “immediately” find her son to check on him."

"Brown provided screen shots of the text exchange to the newspaper, which also reported that a call log from the family’s shared phone plan showed a call was made to the school about 30 minutes before gunfire is believed to have erupted."

"Brown confirmed the reporting to The Associated Press on Saturday in text messages but declined to provide further comment."

"Around the same time, a school administrator went to the son’s math classroom, according to Lyela Sayarath, a student in the class. Sayarath said there seemed to be confusion involving another student in the class with a name similar to that of Gray’s son. Neither student was in the room, and the official left with a backpack belonging to the similarly named student, she said. The shooting began minutes later."

"The Georgia teenager had struggled with his parents' separation and taunting by classmates, his father told a sheriff's investigator last year when asked whether his son posted an online threat."

“I don’t know anything about him saying (expletive) like that,” Gray told Jackson County sheriff’s investigator Daniel Miller, according to a transcript of their interview obtained by the AP. “I’m going to be mad as hell if he did, and then all the guns will go away.”

 “I don’t want him to fight anybody, but they just keep like pinching him and touching him,” Gray said. “Words are one thing, but you start touching him and that’s a whole different deal."

"The phone log, texts and interviews provide the strongest indications yet that officials at Apalachee High were alerted to concerns about the suspect on the morning of the shooting and may have been looking for him in the minutes before he allegedly killed four people and injured nine with an AR-15-style rifle. The texts also show that the school and family were in contact about his mental health a week before the shooting, and that Brown told a relative the teen was at the time having “homicidal and suicidal thoughts.”

"After this story was published online, Marcee Gray reached out to The Post to confirm the details in the texts and phone logs. She declined to elaborate on what had prompted her to call in the warning to the school, but said she had shared that information with law enforcement."

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/09/07/us/apalachee-school-shooting-georgia-saturday

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/mother-georgia-mass-shooting-suspect-called-school-before-attack-2024-09-08/

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/08/g-s1-21436/mother-of-georgia-shooting-suspect-called-school-to-warn-of-emergency-aunt-says

Vote out any congress member who does not support gun safety laws and or has received money from the NRA.

Previous landlord of shooters family said when they were evicted by changing the locks that they only returned to collect their guns.

They left behind their 2 German Sheppard dogs and wedding photos.

" As tenants, Colin and Marcee Gray were chaotic from the start, according to a former landlord, who told The Independent that when he finally evicted the troublesome couple in 2020, they later came back to retrieve their guns while abandoning their pets to fend for themselves."

" The property owner, who asked not to be named for professional reasons, said he almost immediately had a “bad feeling” about the couple, beginning with Colin’s refusal to shake his hand or look him in the eye. On top of that, Marcee, 37, who has a long rap sheet for drug possession and other low-level crimes, along with a reported reputation for unseemly behavior in public, appeared “scared as hell” of her husband, according to the ex-landlord."

" The property owner, who asked not to be named for professional reasons, said he almost immediately had a “bad feeling” about the couple, beginning with Colin’s refusal to shake his hand or look him in the eye. On top of that, Marcee, 37, who has a long rap sheet for drug possession and other low-level crimes, along with a reported reputation for unseemly behavior in public, appeared “scared as hell” of her husband, according to the ex-landlord."

"When the Grays were told a few years back to leave their rental home, they also ditched a handful of other items, some of which the landlord told The Independent he has since put to good use: a golf bag, an archery set, and assorted tools. And, in what might retrospectively seem to be another foreboding sign, the two weren’t particularly interested in preserving important memories of their own."

“They left their wedding photos,” the landlord said. “My wife tried to contact her to say, ‘Hey, do you want these? Like, you can have them.’ And she never responded. So we ended up having to throw away their wedding pictures.”

"The landlord said he was never able to collect several thousand dollars in back rent the family owed, a detail confirmed by court records."

" the landlord said he has run through the spectrum of emotions, feeling, of course, revulsion at Colt’s alleged actions, but a degree of empathy, as well, for him and his two siblings."

“It’s just so sad,” he said. “The more I’m reading these articles that are coming out, I’m like, ‘Oh my God, these kids didn’t have a freaking chance, man.’ Like, these parents just totally f***** them, you know?”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/georgia-school-shooter-gray-parents-allegations-b2608557.html

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/06/us/video/jd-vance-school-shoot-fact-of-life-security-fred-guttenberg-digvid?cid=ios_app

JD Vance ref school shootings comments

'a fact of life'

anyone who is this stupid needs to be committed to a mental asylum and barred from any position of authority or public service! 

 So, how does a 14 year old get an AR weapon? His father buys it for him as a Christmas present!

Now the father is also charged with murder, (2 counts of 2nd degree murder, 4 counts of involuntary manslaughter and 8 counts of cruelty to children).

Colin Gray will spend time in prison just like the parents of the MI mass murderer who are now in prison for 10-15 years. 

Looks like his wife made a good decision in divorcing him and moving the other 2 children out if the house.

"The father of the Apalachee High School shooting suspect has been arrested for “knowingly allowing” his son to have a weapon, according to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. Colin Gray is charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second degree murder and eight counts of cruelty to children."

"Gray told investigators he purchased the gun used in the killing of two teachers and two students as a holiday present for his son in December 2023, according to two law enforcement sources. His 14-year-old son told investigators “I did it” while being questioned, the Barrow County sheriff told CNN."

"James and Jennifer Crumbley were both found guilty of manslaughter and each sentenced to 10 to 15 years in prison."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9wj0vyl8xko.amp

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/apalachee-school-shooting-georgia-09-05-24/index.html

Auto locks, reinforced doors & windows, safe rooms, panic buttons, etc etc 

how much can you shield where the primary purpose is free thinking, interaction & learning? 
schools are short on funds for books, lab equip, quality meals, teacher pay, sports equipment etc and now add this huge burden? 

ironical how strict rules & security applies @ republican gatherings but guns are a free for all otherwise anywhere

nra & gun manufacturers must pay for ALL extra cost & damage as well as gun owners 

maybe just maybe these idiots will get the message ? 

shame on congress

shame on scotus

The Supreme Court cannot read...  

The 2nd Amendment links the possession of guns to participation in a militia.  

Besides, when the 2nd Amendment was written, there were no Semi-Automatic or Automatic Weapons.  A rule written for a muzzle loaded, single fire rifle cannot not justify the possession of modern semi-automatic and automatic weapons!

Learn about when this was written, then reconsider your support for weapons of mass-murder!

Any and every politician who takes money from the NRA is just as resposinsible as if they had pulled the trigger themselves.

They send Thoughts and Prayers every damned time.

They must be praying to Molock in their Bible then, since that is the God mentioned that likes child sacrifice!

Colt Gray, the GA shooter, manage to get an AR platform style weapon at age 14. He also has a history of making threats of school shootings at age 13, interaction with Family and Child Services, and documents written by Colt Gray of past school shootings were found in his home.

"The shooter used an AR-platform style weapon, according Georgia Bureau of Investigation Director Chris Hosey, who said authorities are investigating how the gun was obtained."

" During a search of his home, authorities found documents they believe were written by the suspect and referenced past school shootings, a law enforcement source tells CNN."

"Last year, local law enforcement spoke with Gray and his father about reported threats to commit a school shooting made on the online platform Discord. Investigators said conflicting evidence prevented them from identifying the author of the post."

" The teen was previously on the radar of law enforcement after he was tied to several online threats reported anonymously to the FBI last year, the federal agency said Wednesday."

"In May 2023, the FBI received several anonymous tips from as far as California and Australia that a Discord user had threatened to "shoot up a school," according to investigative reports obtained by USA TODAY. The threats, which also contained images of guns, were forwarded to the Jackson County Sheriff's Office."

" An email associated with the suspect's Discord account was owned by Colt Gray, according to the FBI’s analysis. The evidence also indicated that the account may have been accessed in other Georgia cities as well as in Virginia and New York."

"An investigator with the sheriff's office noted that the Discord user's profile name was written in Russian and that the letters translated to Lanza, which law enforcement said was a reference to Adam Lanza, the man who killed 26 people at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, in 2012."

"In an interview with investigators, Gray said he had deleted his Discord account and denied posting the threats.

"The teen told investigators he deleted the Discord account because it kept getting hacked, according to the sheriff's office reports."

" further investigation of Gray’s Discord account showed that the account was made after the teen said he’d deleted his account."

"Colt expressed concern that someone is accusing him of threatening to shoot up a school, stating that he would never say such a thing, even in a joking manner," the report said. One investigator described Gray, who was 13 at the time, as "calm and reserved."

"Investigators interviewed Gray's father, who said that he had "hunting rifles" in the house but that his son did not have "unfettered access to them." The father also said neither he nor his son speaks Russian and he told investigators the email address associated with the Discord account was unfamiliar to him and his son.

"At this time, due to the inconsistent nature of the information received by the FBI, the allegation that [Colt or his father] is the user behind the Discord account that made the threat cannot be substantiated," an investigator with the Jackson County Sheriff's Office wrote in a report. "This case will be exceptionally cleared."

"The sheriff's office notified the school where Gray was a student. However, the school year had already ended by the time they interviewed Gray and his father, investigative records said."

"During an interview with investigators in May 2023, Gray’s father, Colin Gray, said his 13-year-old son “had some problems” at a previous middle school he attended, according to investigative records."

"The father told investigators – who were looking into threats of a school shooting made online – that the situation had “gotten a lot better” since his son began attending Jefferson Middle School. He had previously attended West Jackson Middle School."

" The boy’s father said he and his wife divorced and his family had been evicted from a prior address. After the eviction, he and his son moved into a new home, and his wife moved elsewhere with their two younger children, the report said."

"It was also revealed that Gray and his family had contact with the department of family and children’s services in the area."

"Hosey said the state Division of Family and Children's Services also had previous contact with the teen and will investigate whether that has any connection with the shooting. Local news outlets reported that law enforcement on Wednesday searched the teen's family home in Bethlehem, Georgia, east of the high school."

"All the students that had to watch their teachers and their fellow classmates die, the ones that had to walk out of the school limping, that looked traumatized," Sayarath said, "that's the consequence of the action of not taking control."

"Gray has been described by a classmate as “quiet” student who would often “skip class”.

"Student Lyela Sayarath told CNN that she wasn’t surprised when she heard Gray was the suspected gunman because he fitted the description of a shooter."

"Sayarath, who said she was sitting next to Gray in their algebra class just moments before the shooting, recalled how he left the room around 9.45am. He didn’t take the bathroom pass with him, so she assumed he was skipping class."

“He wasn’t there most times,” Sayarath said. “He either wouldn’t be there or skip class. But even when he would’ve talked, it was one-word answers and short statements.”

" Before Wednesday, there had been 29 mass killings in the U.S. so far this year, according to a database maintained by The Associated Press and USA Today in partnership with Northeastern University. At least 127 people have died in those killings, which are defined as incidents in which four or more people die within a 24-hour period, not including the killer — the same definition used by the FBI."

" Wednesday’s mass shooting was the 45th school shooting so far this year and the deadliest US school shooting since the March 2023 massacre at the Covenant School in Nashville that left six people dead."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/georgia-shooting-suspect-colt-gray-police-threats-fbi-b2607555.html

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/apalachee-school-shooting-georgia-09-05-24/index.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/georgia-school-shooting-suspect-colt-gray-what-we-know/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/09/05/apalachee-shooting-georgia-colt-gray/75082680007/

Another school year, another school shooting. There have been over 300 this year already, and there will sadly be more at this rate.

What is the Republicans' plan to stop, or even reduce, school shootings? What will Congress do to take the next step to reduce gun violence? When will it stop?

This is not normal! No other country in the world has school shootings like this, and we must stop pretending it is ok.

Stronger gun safety laws equal less deaths. You could try to debate the facts, but it's pointless; every study across the country and the globe confirm this fact. Politicians create the laws, you vote in the politicians. Are you cool with our students and teachers and grocery store shoppers and concert goers and nightclub dancers etc etc dying at an extremely higher rate than the rest of the world? Vote Republican. Do you want to see a decrease in death caused by guns and the people who use them to kill our children and other citizens? Vote Democrat. Either way, GO VOTE, the choice is ours.

https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/us-gun-policy-global-comparisons

U.S. Gun Policy: Global Comparisons

The United States is witnessing another year of record gun violence, raising domestic and internati...

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/us-gun-policy-global-comparisons

This is what "Post Birth Abortion" really looks like. 

GA has weak gun safety laws, and as a result, is 14th highest in gun deaths of all states, and 4th highest in increased gun deaths over 40 years (1981 - 2021).

(1) no red flag laws 

(2) age limit for handguns not long guns

(3) no gun storage laws to prevent a minor's access

(4) no gun training 

(5) unlicensed, open carry

“Georgia has some of the weakest gun laws in the country. The legislature passed a law requiring colleges and universities to allow guns on campus in 2017, and in 2022, Georgia repealed its last foundational policy by passing permitless carry legislation. Though Georgia repealed its Citizen’s Arrest law in 2021, the state still has a dangerous Shoot First law that allows a person to kill another in a public area, even when they can safely walk away from the danger.”

“Effective April 12, 2022, Georgia now generally permits any “lawful weapons carrier” to carry handguns openly or concealed in most public spaces without any background check or permit required.2 A person is a “lawful weapons carrier” if (1) they would be eligible for a weapons carry license under Georgia law (whether or not they have a license) and are not otherwise prohibited by law from possessing a handgun or long gun, (2) if they are a resident of any other state who would otherwise be eligible to obtain a weapons carry license under Georgia law but for the residency requirement, or (3) if they are licensed to carry a weapon in any other state”

“Georgia prohibits the possession or control of a handgun by any person under age 18”

“Georgia does not require applicants to undergo firearm safety training or otherwise demonstrate competence with a firearm.”

“Secure gun storage reduces youth gun violence dramatically, with households that lock firearms and ammunition seeing up to 85% fewer unintentional injuries. State storage laws also incentivize better practices, with researchers finding they reduce injuries and deaths among young people.”

https://usafacts.org/data/topics/security-safety/crime-and-justice/firearms/firearm-deaths/

https://giffords.org/lawcenter/state-laws/minimum-age-to-purchase-possess-in-georgia/

https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/law/secure-storage-or-child-access-prevention-required/

https://giffords.org/lawcenter/state-laws/concealed-carry-in-georgia/

https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/state/georgia/

https://giffords.org/lawcenter/resources/scorecard/

https://vpc.org/press/states-with-strong-gun-laws-and-lower-gun-ownership-have-lowest-gun-death-rates-in-the-nation-new-data-for-2021-confirms/

Republicans are always 'heartbroken' about school shootings ... their hearts & minds 'go out' to the victims families? 
only problem is they DONT have hearts and minds 

until there is strict gun control this will just continue 

all their arguments have been illogical and failed miserably

Shame on congress

Shame on scotus