Big Oil Studied Climate Danger Earlier Than Imagined, Archives Show

Should the fossil fuel industry be held accountable?

  • 90.1k
    LeslieG
    Voted Yes
    02/02/2024

    Investigative journalists found memos in 2015 that shows industries knew since the 1970s (and trade associations since the 1950s, coal industry since 1960, and automotive since the 1970s) that fossil fuels caused global warming with dramatic results occurring before 2050. ExxonMobil had climate models that were more accurate than academia or government yet their advertising greenwashes the problem.

    I also remember my father, as a local politician and automotive engineering professor, discussing this in the 1960s and 1970s saying the problem and lack of solution tracks back to these industries sitting on each others board of directors supporting each others profit motives.

    It will only stop when it costs industry more through taxes and lawsuits just like dangerous automobile designs ended when lawsuits costed more that retooling for a major design change.

    "In 2015, investigative journalists discovered internal company memos indicating that Exxon oil company has known since the late 1970s that its fossil fuel products could lead to global warming with “dramatic environmental effects before the year 2050.” Additional documents then emerged showing that the US oil and gas industry’s largest trade association had likewise known since at least the 1950s, as had the coal industry since at least the 1960s, and electric utilities, Total oil company, and GM and Ford motor companies since at least the 1970s. "

    "For decades, some members of the fossil fuel industry tried to convince the public that a causative link between fossil fuel use and climate warming could not be made because the models used to project warming were too uncertain. Supran et al. show that one of those fossil fuel companies, ExxonMobil, had their own internal models that projected warming trajectories consistent with those forecast by the independent academic and government models. What they understood about climate models thus contradicted what they led the public to believe."

    "In 2017...we demonstrated that Exxon’s internal documents, as well as peer-reviewed studies published by Exxon and ExxonMobil Corp scientists, overwhelmingly acknowledged that climate change is real and human-caused. By contrast, the majority of Mobil and ExxonMobil Corp’s public communications promoted doubt on the matter."

    https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abk0063

    https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2023/01/harvard-led-analysis-finds-exxonmobil-internal-research-accurately-predicted-climate-change/

  • 45
    Linda
    02/07/2024

    This land belongs to all Americans and not just a few profiteers. Big oil lobbyist influence Congress way more than voice of the people being affected by the decisions oil companies. The Great Lakes region is especially vulnerable considering the potential for water contamination. People protest the development of pipelines through our most valuable asset and get completely ignored by Congress in favour of money flowing into campaign funds. 

  • 2,171
    JERRE
    Voted No
    02/09/2024

    Like no bail---no consequences unless Republican

  • 2,573
    530 East Hunt Highway
    Voted Maybe
    02/09/2024

    Causes lives these sound byte polls without a whole lot of information........

    Why do people fall for it? Are they just sheep validating feelings without all the facts?

  • 7,335
    larubia
    Voted Yes
    02/02/2024

    For every 100 year natural disaster, those affected, lawyers, & insurance companies need to sue the crap out of dirty oil. Every Time!

  • 1,663
    Nancy
    Voted No
    02/08/2024

    NO

  • 49
    Brock
    Voted Yes
    02/11/2024

    The urgent need to hold big oil companies accountable for their environmental impact has never been more critical. As we face the escalating consequences of climate change, it’s evident that the practices of these corporations have played a significant role in exacerbating the crisis. For decades, the extraction, production, and consumption of fossil fuels have led to significant greenhouse gas emissions, contributing to global warming and the destabilization of our planet’s climate systems.

    Moreover, the environmental degradation caused by oil spills, deforestation, and pollution has had devastating effects on ecosystems, wildlife, and human communities alike. These actions cannot go unchecked. It’s time for stringent regulations, transparent practices, and a genuine commitment to sustainable and renewable energy sources.

    Holding big oil accountable isn’t just about imposing fines or sanctions; it’s about ensuring a shift towards responsible, environmentally friendly practices that safeguard our planet for future generations. This includes investing in clean energy, supporting policies that reduce carbon emissions, and being transparent with environmental impact assessments.

    As individuals, we have the power to influence this change through our choices, advocacy, and by demanding that our elected officials enact and enforce policies that prioritize our planet’s health over corporate profits. The time for action is now; we must come together to demand a sustainable future, one where big oil is held responsible for its role in the climate crisis.

  • 3,645
    Kevin
    Voted Yes
    02/10/2024

    Yes! YES! and HELL YES!!! For decades we've needed to punish not just the oil companies by destroying their grip on American infrastructure, but also imprisoning and stripping all wealth away from the individuals and families of those who profit from the sale of fossil fuels. When nobody can make money off oil, not even the Saudis, the profits can be put towards transitioning to clean energy. The response is often that this is impossible when there are laws protecting the ultrawealthy and an entire political party protecting big polluters, but getting off fossil fuels is the absolute most important thing we can do in the next decade. 

  • 2,685
    George
    Voted Yes
    02/09/2024

    Fossil fuel accountability is long overdue! 

  • 85
    Linda
    Voted Yes
    02/08/2024

    It's way past time we prioritized the health and safety of people and the planet over the profits of billionaires!

  • 5,144
    Adam
    Voted Yes
    02/08/2024

    The same as Big Tobacco or any other industry whose research showed that they were harming the world and continued to do so with impunity anyway.

    I mean, make it expensive enough for them to sell oil that it's worth it to the energy companies to invest in renewable sources instead (or at the same time, at least).

  • 1,088
    Robin
    Voted Yes
    02/08/2024

    They must pay for their greed and damage they have knowingly produced to our environment.

  • 876
    bojo
    Voted Yes
    02/08/2024

    Stop subsidizing the huge profits made by the fossil fuel industry and their dishonest claims about climate change.

  • 3,262
    Steph
    Voted Yes
    02/08/2024

    Yes! The fossil fuel industry be held accountable!   Since Scotus ruled that Corporations are people.....if my neighbor poisons my water supply they are accountable.  They go to prison.  So, as Corporations are people, by the right wing SCOTUS ruling, then if they damage my environment they must be held accountable.  Their Ceo's and their CFO's and their BOD's should all go to prison.

     

     

  • 153
    Susan
    Voted Yes
    02/08/2024

    When are we going to learn not to trust big business to do what is right for the average American? They rarely do. I guess as long as they keep giving money to your campaigns, you'll keep allowing them to do what they want. Shame on you.

  • 1,202
    colin
    Voted Yes
    02/08/2024

    Charge the companies a portion but go back to all the executives who had a part in keeping things quiet and  take away all the millions the made hiding things at the expense of the poor.

  • 234
    Tammy
    Voted Yes
    02/08/2024

    Big Oil along with all other major polluters have to be held accountabe for their role in destroying our envioroment and natural resources that all are deprived of for their actions to make billions in profit over human and animal as well as the planet and natural resources we'll never be able to use ever again .

    Sincerely , Dr. Tammy King

  • 1,832
    Dawn
    Voted Yes
    02/08/2024

    They know exactly why & how what they're doing is wrong. However, until politicians stop accepting kickbacks to keep the process going, there is literally nothing us constituents can do....except vote out the kiss-asses. 

  • 1,122
    Lois
    Voted Yes
    02/08/2024

    Fossil fuels are destroying the planet.  Floods, droughts and extremes in weather are caused by our use of fossil fuels

  • 1,352
    John
    Voted Yes
    02/08/2024

    This is very similar to the tobacco industry's attempt to deflect and obscure the health hazards of smoking tobacco.  They had to face the music about their falsehoods.  Big Oil needs to face the same reckoning. 

  • 1,763
    George
    Voted Yes
    02/08/2024

    The fossil fuels is where nobody in millennial, and Gen z would ever get a career in

  • 35
    Devin
    Voted Yes
    02/04/2024

    They knew the dangers, the lied about the results. They should pay.