U.N. Resolution Demands Aid in Gaza, U.S. Abstains

Do you support a ceasefire?

  • 41.8k
    jimK
    11/07/2023

    This is an extremely complex situation. HAMAS is using the Palestinian populace as shields because they really have little interest in protecting the populace - their stated goal is to eliminate Israel, and they are willing to let their populace be sacrificed to that cause.

    That said, the current hard right Israeli government is making the situation much worse with their indiscriminate bombing of covilian populations who happen to be in their way.

    The real issue is that right wing asssholes are in charge of both sides of this conflict and that Gaza Palistineans are caught in the cross-fire.

    Israel should commit to a bonified two state solution so that Palestinians have hope for a better future and have a reason to reject HAMAS rule. Without this step, Israel will continue to breed future HAMAS-like terrorists who feel justified in terrestrial revenge.

    Humanitarian pauses at least are necessary so that Palestinians can get out of the way. Also, access to needed foodstuffs, potable water, and other much needed aid must be increased.

    The Arab nations can contribute to a bonified two state solution by agreeing to be part of the solution - by endorsing the Saudi - Israeli peaceful normalization accords and by committing to provide a peace keeping force to govern Gaza until a Palistinean governance can be established and Palistinean - Israeli agreements can be developed.

    I think that is the best way to get Iranian influence out of the HAMAS -Israeli conflict and truly establish a free Palestinian government. This will be hard and require commitments from all parties involved as well as persistent diplomacy.

    The people of Israel, Palestine and Iran will have to take the long view and realized the damage that their asshole right wing leaders are doing to their populations.

  • 90.1k
    LeslieG
    Voted Yes
    10/25/2023

    Just how many dead Palestians (5,791) Children (2,360) is enough for the 1,400 dead Israelis before there is a ceasefire and resolution through negotiation?

    More bombs have been dropped on Gaza, one of the most densely populated urban areas the size of Philadelphia in 6 days than the U.S. dropped at the height of bombing Afghanistan, which is the size of Texas, in one month.

     "The Hamas-run Health Ministry said at least 5,791 Palestinians have been killed and 16,297 wounded."

     "The secretary general of the United Nations said on Tuesday that the attacks by Hamas that left 1,400 people dead in Israel on Oct. 7 were “appalling” but it did not justify the “collective punishment” of civilians in the Gaza Strip, where Israeli military significantly stepped up its bombardment in recent days."

     "Nearly 600,000 people in Gaza were sheltering in 150 facilities run by the U.N. agency that aids Palestinians, known as UNRWA, according to a statement from the agency dated Monday. “Shelters are operating beyond their capacities,” leaving new arrivals to sleep in the streets"

     https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-palestinians-live-updates-9a0ddf745bde0ffc46921b99ed34fb65

     https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/10/24/world/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news

  • 1,521
    Richard
    Voted No
    10/25/2023

    Depends upon Hamas and Iran on what type of agreement can be reached for some guarantee of security for Israel. You cannot trust either Hamas or Iran.

  • 1,352
    John
    Voted Maybe
    10/25/2023

    A Cease Fire should be give serious consideration, to allow aid to get to Gaza to help civilians trapped there and potentially allow for the release more hostages.

    This is not condoning the horrific attack Hamas perpetrated on Israel in any way. 

    A pause in hostilities will give Israel to give more consideration to the end game of any assault on Gaza and the neutralisation of Hamas.  The United States became bogged down in both Iraq and Afghanistan because there was no end game for what happened after removing the Taliban in Afghanistan and Hussein in Iraq. Israel needs to have a plan for what happens to Gaza, its citizens and how they are governed once Hamas has been neutralized.  We don't need another endless war in the middle east for the world to deal with.

  • 362
    Robert
    10/25/2023

    All the idiots that voted yes aren't after peace, they're anti-Semitic and Anti-Israel. 
    Yes the killing of others is wrong. But that didn't stop Hamas from doing just that to old, young and women, etc. They just wanted to kill Jewish people. 
    also remember Islam even kills other Muslims because they don't practice their religion the same as they do. 
    so just forget that a cease fire will help. Even giving these people Gaza didn't do Israel a dame bit of good. All terriorests must be stopped. 

  • 90.1k
    LeslieG
    Voted Yes
    12/14/2023

    How can a cease fire not be supported with 18K deaths and 50K injuries of Palestian civilians of which 50% are children, and is probably understated as many bodies are still under the ruble of 40% of civilian infrastructure that has been deliberately bombed to shock the civilian population.

    In addition an investigation by 972 magazine (independent, online, nonprofit magazine run by a group of Palestinian and Israeli journalists) and Local Call (Hebrew-language news site) of 7 current and former members of Israel’s intelligence and military, has found the current military invasion of Gaza called Operation Iron Sword compared to previous Israeli military operations has expanded bombing targets to include non-military targets (private residences, high rises, infrastructure, etc) so as to create a shock in hopes that civilians will apply pressure on Hamas.  Civilian casualties are 15X higher with 300 families losing 10+ members than the last war in Gaza (2014) 

    Use of AI has doubled the number of bombing targets per day from 50 to 100 which is referred to as a mass assassination factory by Israeli intelligence officers and has allowed the generation of targets at a faster rate than the bombing rate.

    Half of the targets bombed — 1,329 out of a total 2,687 — were deemed power targets, non-military targets to shock civilians into pressuring Hamas.

    "18,608 people have been killed and 50,594 injured in Israeli strikes on Gaza. Many thousands more are feared lost in the rubble or beyond the reach of ambulances."

    “Compared to previous Israeli assaults on Gaza, the current war — which Israel has named “Operation Iron Swords,” and which began in the wake of the Hamas-led assault on southern Israel on October 7 — has seen the army significantly expand its bombing of targets that are not distinctly military in nature. These include private residences as well as public buildings, infrastructure, and high-rise blocks, which sources say the army defines as “power targets” (“matarot otzem”).”

    “Over 300 families have lost 10 or more family members in Israeli bombings in the past two months — a number that is 15 times higher than the figure from what was previously Israel’s deadliest war on Gaza, in 2014”

    “The bombing of power targets, according to intelligence sources who had first-hand experience with its application in Gaza in the past, is mainly intended to harm Palestinian civil society: to “create a shock” that, among other things, will reverberate powerfully and “lead civilians to put pressure on Hamas,” as one source put it.”

    “This number is calculated and known in advance to the army’s intelligence units, who also know shortly before carrying out an attack roughly how many civilians are certain to be killed.”

    “another reason for the large number of targets, and the extensive harm to civilian life in Gaza, is the widespread use of a system called “Habsora” (“The Gospel”), which is largely built on artificial intelligence and can “generate” targets almost automatically at a rate that far exceeds what was previously possible. This AI system, as described by a former intelligence officer, essentially facilitates a “mass assassination factory.”

    “remember thinking that it was like if [Palestinian militants] would bomb all the private residences of our families when [Israeli soldiers] go back to sleep at home on the weekend,” one source, who was critical of this practice”

    ““The emphasis is on damage and not on accuracy,” said IDF Spokesperson Daniel Hagari on Oct. 9. The army swiftly translated those declarations into actions.”

    “the targets in Gaza that have been struck by Israeli aircraft can be divided roughly into four categories. “

    “first is “tactical targets,” which include standard military targets such as armed militant cells, weapon warehouses, rocket launchers, anti-tank missile launchers, launch pits, mortar bombs, military headquarters, observation posts”

    “second is “underground targets” — mainly tunnels that Hamas has dug under Gaza’s neighborhoods, including under civilian homes. Aerial strikes on these targets could lead to the collapse of the homes above or near the tunnels.”

    “third is “power targets,” which includes high-rises and residential towers in the heart of cities, and public buildings such as universities, banks, and government offices. The idea behind hitting such targets, say three intelligence sources who were involved in planning or conducting strikes on power targets in the past, is that a deliberate attack on Palestinian society will exert “civil pressure” on Hamas.”

    “final category consists of “family homes” or “operatives’ homes.” The stated purpose of these attacks is to destroy private residences in order to assassinate a single resident suspected of being a Hamas or Islamic Jihad operative. However, in the current war, Palestinian testimonies assert that some of the families that were killed did not include any operatives from these organizations.”

    “the IDF Spokesperson, during the first five days of fighting, half of the targets bombed — 1,329 out of a total 2,687 — were deemed power targets.”

    “Various sources who served in IDF intelligence units said that at least until the current war, army protocols allowed for attacking power targets only when the buildings were empty of residents at the time of the strike. However, testimonies and videos from Gaza suggest that since October 7, some of these targets have been attacked without prior notice being given to their occupants, killing entire families as a result.”

    “by the time the temporary ceasefire took hold on Nov. 23, Israel had killed 14,800 Palestinians in Gaza; approximately 6,000 of them were children and 4,000 were women, who together constitute more than 67 percent of the total. “

    “The Israeli army estimates that it has killed between 1,000 and 3,000 armed Palestinian militants.”

    “In May 2021, for example, Israel was heavily criticized for bombing the Al-Jalaa Tower, which housedprominent international media outlets such as Al Jazeera, AP, and AFP. The army claimed that the building was a Hamas military target; sources have told +972 and Local Call that it was in fact a power target.”

    “Israel attacked a total of 15,000 targets in Gaza….high figure compared to the four previous major operations in the Strip. During Guardian of the Walls in 2021, Israel attacked 1,500 targets in 11 days. In Protective Edge in 2014, which lasted 51 days, Israel struck between 5,266 and 6,231 targets. During Pillar of Defense in 2012, about 1,500 targets were attacked over eight days. In Cast Lead” in 2008, Israel struck 3,400 targets in 22 days.”

    “Habsora [AI] generates, among other things, automatic recommendations for attacking private residences where people suspected of being Hamas or Islamic Jihad operatives live. Israel then carries out large-scale assassination operations through the heavy shelling of these residential homes.”

    “Habsora [AI]…processes enormous amounts of data that “tens of thousands of intelligence officers could not process,” and recommends bombing sites in real time. Because most senior Hamas officials head into underground tunnels with the start of any military operation, the sources say, the use of a system like Habsora makes it possible to locate and attack the homes of relatively junior operatives.”

    “Habsora [AI] system enables the army to run a “mass assassination factory,” in which the “emphasis is on quantity and not on quality.” 

    “972 Magazine is an independent, online, nonprofit magazine run by a group of Palestinian and Israeli journalists. Founded in 2010, our mission is to provide in-depth reporting, analysis, and opinions from the ground in Israel-Palestine. The name of the site is derived from the telephone country code that can be used to dial throughout Israel-Palestine.”

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/un-demands-ceasefire-gaza-israel-us-show-increasing-divisions-2023-12-13/

    https://www.972mag.com/topic/local-call/

    https://www.972mag.com/about/

    https://www.972mag.com/mass-assassination-factory-israel-calculated-bombing-gaza/

  • 3,908
    Jim2423
    Voted No
    11/04/2023

    We have tried for over forty years of peace negotiations. Many of our Presidents tried for a two country resolution. Nothing works. Hamas is a cowardly regime. Hides amounts innocent people. Using city warfare. Now other countries are giving them more tactical weapons to use against Israel. Look through the Old Testament, you eliminate your enemy, if they won't talk peace. The bad problem is a lot of innocent folks get in the way.

  • 3,634
    John
    Voted Maybe
    11/16/2023

    Perhaps there should be a cease-fire to give time to evacuate innocent civilians. Hamas certainly not innocent their provocation got this ball rolling in the immediate sense. In the big picture sadly this battle has been going on for over 1000 years. The Middle East has been a flash pot since history has green recorded. I don't know how to get these people to get along with one another but that's what they have to do. We on this planet have bigger fish to fry or we will all be gone.
    In the meantime people like Elon musk who are helping spread hate with his wealth need to be stopped. Musk Agreeing with an antisemitic post on his social media platform X, Elon Musk endorsed the claim that Jewish communities push “hatred against Whites.” I do believe that all government contracts with companies tied to Musk should be null and void.

    Our government should be doing zero business with hate, on any side. That only fans flame on both sides. 

    It appears to me that either musk has lost his bearings on reality or his wealth has gone so far to his head that he has lost touch with being a human being.

     

  • 199
    Angela
    Voted Yes
    01/09/2024

    Do whatever needs to be done to protect the safety and well-being of these people to live a good life.

  • 44
    Morgan
    Voted Yes
    01/04/2024

    Not only ceasefire but freedom and sovereignty to Palestine. 

  • 223
    Michael
    Voted Yes
    12/27/2023

    Israel is more of a powerful nation then when it was established in 1948.  A temporary cease fire for humanitarian purposes is recommended as work is done in earnest toward a peaceful solution.  Revenge and immediate retaliation was done but now is the time to show a compassionate, Godly nature as demonstrated by Jesus Christ.  Extreme violence will provoke more violence.

     

     Aren't Christians under a new covenant?

  • 2,380
    Martha
    Voted Yes
    12/25/2023

    YES!!!!!  Israel is out of control and needs to be reigned in.  Their scorched earth policy is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!!!

  • 3,243
    Surender
    Voted Yes
    12/22/2023

    Carpet bombing high density Gaza with 2000 pouns dumb munitions is GENOCIDE by any measure!

    A two state solution is NOT push palestinians into jordan & egypt 

     

  • 1,605
    Sandra
    Voted Yes
    12/20/2023

    The people of Gaza did not start this.  one does not set a forest ablaze to take down a section of bad wood.

  • 154
    Sam Jeffro
    Voted Yes
    12/16/2023

    if the us deman a ceasefire are stop soporting the war and killing insent people

  • 380
    Mayra
    Voted No
    12/16/2023

    Israel has every right to defend its people from the terrorist animals that is Hamas. Every last one should be killed. Israel has been patient enough. Why isn't Hamas trying totake care of the Palestinians? Why is it Israel's responsibility? The world should be ashamed of themselves and in fear if Israel does not suceed because Hamas will then be emboldened and branch out to attack infediles across the world launching WWIII. We should be supporting Israel's efforts any way we can. So should the useless and spineless UN. 

  • 767
    Ty
    Voted Yes
    12/15/2023

    for how long 

  • 80
    Scott
    Voted Yes
    12/15/2023

    I would be more willing to support Israel were it not for Netanyahu and their far right expansionist agenda.  I view Netanyahu much the same as I view putin.  Curiously, the gop seems to like aggressively expansionist dictators.

  • 2,297
    michele
    Voted Yes
    12/15/2023

    The fact that we vote against a ceasefire in an obvious genocide truely shows our intent for what it is. Our support for the actions of Israel is shameful. History will not be kind to us. We are not the good guys anymore.

  • 1,304
    Steve
    Voted No
    12/15/2023

    I think we should just let the terrorists do what they want, don't you?

  • 1,113
    Reilly
    12/15/2023

    The UN = The most ineffectual international "organization" in the world. 

  • 24.3k
    Frank_001
    Voted Yes
    12/14/2023

    Until the people of Israel get rid of  vicious, sociopathic hardliners like Netanyahu and stop treating the Palestinian people as though they are not human, they are guaranteeing that their existence will be threatened again and again in the future.

    BBC News: Support for Hamas grows among Palestinians in West Bank
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67695861

    <Quote>

    "The persistence of the incursions into Jenin, and the killing of young people - this will make the people more and more angry, because every day we lose one of our friends," he (the director of Jenin's hospital, Wissam Bakr) said. 

    "This will not bring peace for Israel - this will bring more and more resistance."

    On 7 October, Hamas gunmen from Gaza attacked southern Israel, killing 1,200 people and taking 240 others hostage. More than 18,400 people are said to have been killed in Gaza during the war that followed.

    Here in the West Bank, 271 Palestinians, including 69 children, have been killed since the attacks - more than half the total number for the year. Almost all of them have been killed by Israeli forces, according to the United Nations.

    Since the Hamas attacks, support for armed resistance has risen in many parts of the West Bank - in places like Nablus and Jenin.

    "I see it in the voices of people, in the music they play in their cars, from Facebook or social media posts, from my debates with my students," said Raed Debiy, a political scientist and youth leader for the West Bank's ruling party, Fatah, which dominates the Palestinian Authority (PA).

    He told me the attacks were "a turning point" for Palestinians, just as they were a shocking turning point for Israelis. 

    "The people, especially the new generation, are backing Hamas now, more than at any other moment," he told me. "In the previous 30 years, there were no models, no idols for the new generation; now they see there is something different, a different story is being created." 

    Even his 11-year-old nephew, he said, had little respect for Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, but idolises Hamas military spokesman Abu Obeida - "because he protects us".

    <End Quote> 

     

  • 76
    C3rockstar3
    Voted Yes
    12/14/2023

    The amount of civilian deaths that have occurred in the past two months is staggering. A ceasefire is the only way to stop more innocent bloodshed. 

  • 46
    Gayle
    Voted No
    12/13/2023

    Israel is a tiny dot on the map. Jews have there when it was Cannon, long before Palesting. They have been hated since their beginning. That's why the Romans crucified Jesus who was a Rabbi. A Jew. Many countries want Israel wiped out and are relentless about it. ISRAEL IS HERE TO STAY, REGARDLESS OF WHO OBJECTS!!!!  Nazi Germany nearly succeeded, and now terrorists are trying to do so. Israel has to defend herself, and will continue to do so until they are defeated. It is unfortunate that innocent people are dying, however, consider every war that ever happened. No one voted to "cease fire" in those wars. War is how countries take over and dominate other countries and civilians die. Israel is fighting for survival, and democracy. Those who demand cease fire have unrealisstic priorities. They want to let Hamas, the terriorists win and ignore the fact that ALL terriorists must be deveated or the world is not safe. They will not stop until they are defeated - and cease fire would allow them to continue.
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  • 2,685
    George
    Voted Yes
    12/14/2023

    Both sides wrong! 

  • 2,573
    530 East Hunt Highway
    Voted No
    12/14/2023

    Why is the US not supporting Israel? How Americans think they have a right to tell Israel how to take care of their country....we have not walked in their shoes!

  • 38
    Linda
    Voted Yes
    12/14/2023

    I do not want the tax dollars I contribute to go to the genocide of innocent civilians anywhere in the world, including in Gaza. Israel's current operations are no longer self-defense and cannot be described as "just war." Please seek an immediate humanitarian ceasefire and arrange for humanitarian aid to those in the region. Thank you.