The Latest: ICC Seeks Arrest Warrants for Israel and Hamas Leaders

How do you feel about the U.S. response so far?

  • 94.7k
    LeslieG
    Voted Angry
    10/13/2023

    Haven't seen any humanitarian corridors established to provide Palestians with food, water, drugs, fuel nor safe areas designated, especially all existing hospitals.

    While Israel has a right to defend itself and the US has armed Israel over the years ($3B/year) it does not have a right to bomb Palestians civilians and infrastructure which is not only a war crime but escalatory as Hezbollah may join the fray in the north even if Lebanon and Jordan don't officially.

    Asking 1M civilians to evacuate in 24 hr is not feasible even if they all had cars, had a place to go, and roads that were not bombed. Think about the planning that goes into US evacuations for fires and hurricanes where 2-3M people are involved that happen over days, to shelters with provisions where everyone has a vehicle.

    Time to remind Israel about the rules of war, and  not destroying civilians or non-military infrastructure.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/09/hurricane-ian-florida-evacuation-orders-zones/671612/

  • 2,418
    Martha
    Voted Sad
    10/09/2023

    To tell the truth, I'm not sure how I feel.  While, I don't condone the attack, I know that Israel is not innocent as they have launched attacks in the past that seemed unprovoked (although I don't live over there so I can't really say for sure that the past attacks on Gaza were without provocation).  All I know is that both sides have acted like spoiled toddlers and need to sit down like real adults and work out some solution that benefits both sides.  Obviously, Gaza has reasons to not like or trust Israel and likewise Israel has reasons to not like or trust Gaza, but at some point this shit has to stop to stop the senseless killing on both sides.

  • 48.6k
    Brian
    Voted Apathetic
    10/13/2023

    It sounds more and more like Israel is about to commit mass casualties, possibly genocide, in Gaza starting as soon as their morning tomorrow.

    The international community and our US leadership needs to speak out loudly and strongly that while the horrors of last weekend were abominable and terrorism cannot be accepted, the destruction of human lives in retribution and in violation of international law is completely unacceptable.

    Netanyahu has long been a right-wing extremist when it comes to treatment of the Palestinian people, and it looks like he's finally found his reason to carry out his darkest impulses. 

    May God have mercy on the people of Gaza.

  • 1,845
    RoyB
    10/09/2023

    I read the whole comments.  I will look at another alternative.

    The enmity between Israel and Hamas is complex and multifaceted, butI believe that religion and claims to religious buildings certainly play a role.

    Both Israel and Hamas are religious movements with strong ties to Judaism and Islam, respectively. Jews believe that the land of Israel is promised to them by God, while Muslims believe that Jerusalem is the third holiest city in Islam. The Temple Mount/Al-Aqsa Mosque complex in Jerusalem is sacred to both Jews and Muslims, and competing claims to the site have been a source of tension and violence for centuries.

    So one could say the war going on is because of religion and land grab on both sides.  

    I don't know what the solution is other than for them to grow up and realize religions are not good reasons to go war.  Historically, many wars happened because of religions.  

  • 714
    Keyless
    Voted Excited
    10/17/2023

    Biden is correct. An Israeli ground invasion of Gaza could very well prove to be a collosal mistake.

    There is a good chance of it proving counterproductive in terms of subdoing Hamas;

    A good chance of serious unintended consequences,

    A chance of it sparking a larger confilct in the region, including possible world war;

    And finally, a full scale invasion in civilian territory will likely paint Israel in a very negative light internationally.

  • 5,211
    Adam
    Voted Happy
    02/09/2024

    Okay, as a liberal, but also as a Jewish person, I've tried to avoid commenting on this site, but here's the thing, as I see it:
    1) you can support Israel without agreeing with its government. Frankly, I think Netanyahu is a real asshole. And that's despite the fact that we both graduated from the same high school. However, I support Israel's right to exist and defend itself against those who would see to destroy it.
    2) you can support the Palestinians without being antisemitic. I do, in fact. However, check your history. There's a reason the West Bank and Gaza strip exist and it's not because the ancestors of the current residents thought they would be nice vacation spots. Read up on Jordan's and Egypt's roles in creating these two sectors and how they responded to Palestinian requests for asylum after Israel's victory in 1948.
    3) you cannot support Hamas without being antisemitic. Or kind of horrible. As a billboard I saw the other day said, "There is no excuse for kidnapping, rape, and murder." No matter how sympathetic you may find the Palestinian cause (it is) or how horrible you may find Israel's current administration (they are), what happened on October 7 cannot be justified. Nor can a call for completely obliterating a sovereign state.

    Anyway, my 2¢.

  • 7,995
    larubia
    Voted Angry
    10/09/2023

    I'm saddened by recent events and worried about the implications for the United States and our NATO allies. Although this attack seemingly did not make intelligence agency's radar, it's been brewing for a while & Isreal is not blameless, in my opinion. 

    This region has been fought over for centuries, because of religion. I find it ironic that the major tenet of each of these religions is, in a sense, "the Golden Rule".

     

    Here is a brief history:

    https://youtu.be/m19F4IHTVGc?si=2g7tcaPsWPsNfu-w

  • 9,012
    M
    Voted Apathetic
    02/13/2024

    @causes @bart

    Bumping old threads up when new replies don't bump up within them makes these threads useless for commenters. Please, just start a new thread.

    Just look how far one must scroll to find comments. 

  • 46
    Amy
    11/05/2023

    We need to use our power and influence to stop the killing of innocent civilians in Gaza Strip. Too many innocents are dying.

  • 358
    IndyVoter
    Voted Sad
    10/10/2023

    i ask my 2 Senators to Vote for any Legislation OR Military Aid that will help to Support the only Democratic Nation in the Middle East to Defend Itself Against Terrorist attacks. Military aid to  Israel is vital to the US. 

     

  • 37
    Rebecca
    Voted Happy
    10/10/2023

    The President and many advisers are working around the clock to advocate for both hostages and Israel. Palestinian people need to be heard but do not need representation by Hamas -or Iran or other outside groups.

  • 1,391
    Reilly
    Voted Excited
    10/13/2023

    Good on the President for saying what he said. 

     

    President Biden called Hamas' attack on Israel "pure unadulterated evil," as he vowed, "We stand with Israel."

    "We'll make sure Israel has what it needs to take care of itself," Biden said Tuesday from the White House.

    Hamas militants attacked Israel on Saturday, killing more than 900 people, including at least 14 Americans. Israel has responded with a siege and heavy bombing of the Gaza Strip.

    "Like every nation in the world, Israel has the right to respond — indeed has a duty to respond — to these vicious attacks," Biden said.

    Biden has expressed full-throated support for Israel in the wake of what he and his officials have described as terrorist attacks.

     

    https://www.npr.org/2023/10/10/1204861972/biden-will-address-the-nation-on-the-israel-attack

  • 3,600
    Surender
    Voted Angry
    Today at 10:26 AM

    The ICC should have done this much earlier! If the US defines itself as a country of 'law and order' it should be at the forefront of this body not just when it suits our convenience? 

  • 7,978
    DaveS
    Voted Apathetic
    Today at 2:01 AM

    It is interesting that the so called educated try to make a black and white statement out of a complex situation. Don't loose sight that Israel did not start the war, just like Ukraine, but they may finish it! United States of America cannot stop wars. Yes, America supports democracy would you have it not and support dictatorship?

  • 48.6k
    Brian
    Voted Apathetic
    Yesterday at 12:01 PM

    The International Criminal Court has issued arrest warrants for Netanyahu and the leaders of Hamas:

     https://abcnews.go.com/International/live-updates/israel-hamas-gaza-may/?id=110380947

      

     It's time for accountability. The people of Israel should demand change in leadership and a better plan for this war to end and the hostages to come home.

  • 72
    a7
    Voted Angry
    last Saturday

    abolish the military

  • 7
    John
    Voted Excited
    last Thursday

    Hamas is the aggressor. They refuse peace deals because they don't want peace. They want to destroy Israel. 

  • 6
    Ron
    Voted Excited
    last Thursday

    Wipe out the terrorists - show no mercy. 

  • 605
    Arnold
    Voted Apathetic
    last Friday

    October 7.From the sea to the river Israel shall be free. 

  • 1,180
    sepena
    Voted Apathetic
    last Friday

    the u.s. response has very slowly improved. but netanyahu's actions are disgusting. forcing palestinian civilians to constantly move into unlivable areas and then bombing those areas after they move into them is reprehensible.

  • 983
    Luleo
    Voted Angry
    last Thursday

    WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE IDIOTS WHO WANT TO KEEP SUPPORTING THE ISRAELI GENOCIDE????

  • 3,354
    Steph
    Voted Angry
    last Thursday

    I am sick to death of MY Tax Dollars going forth to pay for the genocide that a corrupt despot wants.  AIPAC is evil, but looooord!  Those folks on The Hill just love cashing their sweet, sweet checks in order to support BIBI's Genocide.

     

    What makes it worse is that the corrupt despot now running (and ruining) Isarel is using Nazi based language to describe the Palastininas exactly lik Hitler and the Nazis did regarding the Jews.  THE EXACT language.

     

    When a group that has been mariginalized turns around and does the same thing to another group, using the same language, it is deliberate.  They studies Hitler's playbook and are now doing the same thing and it was wrong then and it is doubly wrong now.

     

    I am in utter disgust that my country is involved in paying for and promoting a Genocide.

  • 1,219
    Dennis
    Voted Apathetic
    last Thursday

    Israel needs more weapons to exterminait the terrorist.

  • 225
    Scott
    Voted Angry
    last Thursday

    we need to ecsert presure on Isreal to stop the killing of inocent Gozzens

  • 307
    James
    Voted Apathetic
    last Thursday

    Israel should wipe the Palestinians off of the face of the earth. That message should be sufficient for the rest of the Muslim scum in the Middle East. The Palestinians in Gaza harbor the terrorist of Hamas. Now they are paying the consequences in this game called f-around and find out. 

  • 2,248
    JERRE
    Voted Angry
    last Thursday

    Which response-like 1 each day. Biden waffles 

  • 467
    Cj97603
    Voted Angry
    last Thursday

    I'm sad about the poor usa response to help our Israel allies after that horrible attack from the Hamas Palestinian terrorist. 

     

    I am glad Biden has driven votes to Trump because he rather try to get votes from infidel Muslims here in the Homeland of the u.s.a.

  • 437
    Dennis
    Voted Apathetic
    last Thursday

    I think President Biden is doing his level best to "thread the needle" here, but I remain disgusted with Israel's (make that Bibi's) indiscriminate bombing of Gaza, largely at the expense of innocent Palestinians who increasingly have no where safe to flee. I also, in the strongest terms, object to Israel's claim that Biden loves Hamas. That's ridiculous and insulting to a President who has been a strong ally to Israel and is only trying to get Israel to see the error of its ways. Of course, the October 7 Hamas attack was appalling, and Israel has every right to defend itself and try to destroy Hamas, but like many, I've argued all along that a more precise and discriminate approach to that mission is better suited to the situation rather than a massive bombing campaign which has not, so far as I can tell, resulted in a material degradation of Hamas but definitely has resulted in the indiscriminate deaths of thousands of Palestinians who don't have access to the series of Hamas tunnels. Israel's approach (again, make that Bibi) has also resulted in an increasingly strained relationship with its best ally and the massive loss of support from around the world, leaving it more vulnerable than ever. Further, Israel has no readily apparent plan for the "day after." All this leads me to conclude that the Israeli people must remove Bibi and his extremist government from power, and find a more discrete way to destroy Hamas in order for there to be any chance of a relatively peaceful and lasting solution.

  • 41
    Marjorie
    Voted Angry
    last Thursday

    History will tell that America was on the side of torture, ethnic cleansing and murder and your names will be listed. This is abominable what you are supporting and I hope you feel ashamed one day and I hope that justice can prevail for the Palestinians one day.

  • 393
    Robert
    Voted Angry
    last Thursday

    Once again America is not standing with an ally. President Biden is withholding needed heavy weapons from Israel even though the enemy doesn't abide by international laws. Israel has done more to protect "civilians " than other nations (Russia, German ((during WWII)) etc. 
    Though I'm saddened by the loss of innocent civilians, the Arabs have be indoctrinated by decades of violence towards civilians of Jewish faith. You don't have enough deprogrammers to change their minds. 
    Finish the war in Gaza period. 
    Do not allow any more persons of hate into our country for any reason. 

  • 1,224
    colin
    Voted Excited
    last Thursday

    The Israelis were attacked by Hamas and people were killed and captured. The people in Gaza hide the people who have done this and aid them in continuing to fight. This is similar to the Vietnam War no one can tell who is who and no one will admit publicly being responsible. Oddly enough none of their neighbors want to take them in. Then again who wants to welcome a terrorist group into their midst?

  • 489
    Linda
    Voted Angry
    last Thursday

    I am angry that once again I am being told that human beings are secondary to the military industrial complex who are profitting from this conflict.  I am not condoning the hostages taken and the deaths inflicted by Hamas.  I also am not condoning the continuous taking of Palestinian land and homes by Israeli settlers.  Obvious Hamas is being punished but where is the punishment for the settlers?  I'm gonna tell you that if you sent some clowns into my neighborhood who forced me out of the house I have paid for, improved and which I own because you have the power to do so, I'd be picking up a gun and fighting back, too.  I believe we are wrong to allow American firepower to be used in this situation unless we agree to equally arm the Palestinians!  What is going on is not morally right.