The Latest: U.S. Airman Sets Himself on Fire, Protesting Israel

How do you feel about the U.S. response so far?

  • 90.1k
    LeslieG
    Voted Angry
    10/13/2023

    Haven't seen any humanitarian corridors established to provide Palestians with food, water, drugs, fuel nor safe areas designated, especially all existing hospitals.

    While Israel has a right to defend itself and the US has armed Israel over the years ($3B/year) it does not have a right to bomb Palestians civilians and infrastructure which is not only a war crime but escalatory as Hezbollah may join the fray in the north even if Lebanon and Jordan don't officially.

    Asking 1M civilians to evacuate in 24 hr is not feasible even if they all had cars, had a place to go, and roads that were not bombed. Think about the planning that goes into US evacuations for fires and hurricanes where 2-3M people are involved that happen over days, to shelters with provisions where everyone has a vehicle.

    Time to remind Israel about the rules of war, and  not destroying civilians or non-military infrastructure.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/09/hurricane-ian-florida-evacuation-orders-zones/671612/

  • 7,335
    larubia
    Voted Apathetic
    10/09/2023

    I'm saddened by recent events and worried about the implications for the United States and our NATO allies. Although this attack seemingly did not make intelligence agency's radar, it's been brewing for a while & Isreal is not blameless, in my opinion. 

    This region has been fought over for centuries, because of religion. I find it ironic that the major tenet of each of these religions is, in a sense, "the Golden Rule".

     

    Here is a brief history:

    https://youtu.be/m19F4IHTVGc?si=2g7tcaPsWPsNfu-w

  • 6,558
    Bruce
    Voted Sad
    10/10/2023

    Unfortunately, the U.S. response is the same as every other time that Palestinians have lashed out against Israel for the terrible Apartheid treatment they've suffered.  

    This retaliation will not provide any positive results, but the Palestinians' suffering has reached a breaking point.  

    The U.S. must become an advocate for justice for both sides--not a cheerleader for Israel.

  • 2,380
    Martha
    Voted Happy
    10/09/2023

    To tell the truth, I'm not sure how I feel.  While, I don't condone the attack, I know that Israel is not innocent as they have launched attacks in the past that seemed unprovoked (although I don't live over there so I can't really say for sure that the past attacks on Gaza were without provocation).  All I know is that both sides have acted like spoiled toddlers and need to sit down like real adults and work out some solution that benefits both sides.  Obviously, Gaza has reasons to not like or trust Israel and likewise Israel has reasons to not like or trust Gaza, but at some point this shit has to stop to stop the senseless killing on both sides.

  • 1,820
    RoyB
    10/09/2023

    I read the whole comments.  I will look at another alternative.

    The enmity between Israel and Hamas is complex and multifaceted, butI believe that religion and claims to religious buildings certainly play a role.

    Both Israel and Hamas are religious movements with strong ties to Judaism and Islam, respectively. Jews believe that the land of Israel is promised to them by God, while Muslims believe that Jerusalem is the third holiest city in Islam. The Temple Mount/Al-Aqsa Mosque complex in Jerusalem is sacred to both Jews and Muslims, and competing claims to the site have been a source of tension and violence for centuries.

    So one could say the war going on is because of religion and land grab on both sides.  

    I don't know what the solution is other than for them to grow up and realize religions are not good reasons to go war.  Historically, many wars happened because of religions.  

  • 703
    Keyless
    Voted Excited
    10/17/2023

    Biden is correct. An Israeli ground invasion of Gaza could very well prove to be a collosal mistake.

    There is a good chance of it proving counterproductive in terms of subdoing Hamas;

    A good chance of serious unintended consequences,

    A chance of it sparking a larger confilct in the region, including possible world war;

    And finally, a full scale invasion in civilian territory will likely paint Israel in a very negative light internationally.

  • 3,930
    Jean
    Voted Angry
    10/09/2023

    CAUSES TELLS ME, THEN ASKS:  " Welcome to Monday, October 9th, nations... . Over the weekend, the Hamas militant group carried out shock attacks on Israel. Rocket attacks from Gaza continue to target Israel. Israel says it regained control of its communities near Gaza, but militant groups remain active. More than 700 people have been killed in Israel, and over 500 people have died in Gaza since Israel began retaliatory air strikes on the area. More than 120,000 Gazans have been displaced from their homes.  Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Saturday:        “We are at war and we will win it.” How do you feel about the U.S. response so far?"

    ME:  Angry, very angry. There has been absolutely NO acknowledgement on the part  of the US Government (and the West in general) of the fact that the Gaza strip is considered in international circles as "the world's biggest outdoor prison," nor has the entire West -- other than those involved in humanitarian efforts -- recognized Israel's creation of this "prison."   How many years in prison would YOU tolerate?

    "UN human rights expert: ‘I’m horrified by the narrative’  “Like many, I’m totally petrified by what’s happening,” Francesca Albanese, the UN special rapporteur on human rights in the Palestinian territories, told Al Jazeera. “Before anything else, I’m horrified by the narrative,” Albanese added. “It’s possible, and necessary, to stand with both the Palestinians and Israelis without resorting to ethical relativism, selective outrage or worse: calls for violence.” Albanese, who has been in the role as an independent UN human rights expert for 16 months, said that “violence escalating against defenceless Palestinians [is] something that has been ongoing for over six decades now. Fifty six years just in the context of the occupation,” She acknowledged that Israelis were in pain but that this needed to be put in the “context of decades of oppression imposed on the Palestinians”. “The militarized, settler-colonial occupation that Israel maintains traps both people,” she added. Politicians and policymakers “should prioritise restoring legality and accountability, using diplomacy and peace as conflict resolution methods,” said Albanese, “rather than advocating for more violence or standing with one side or another”."  [https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/8/israel-palestine-escalation-live-israeli-forces-bombard-gaza]

    IMHO, the root causes for today's war lies directly in the thought-less decisions by the allied powers in 1948 to simply remove people who had lived in the area for hundreds, if not thousands, of years and give their land over to others. And then, repeatedly and for decades thereafter fail to condemn these new occupiers for their hostile and illegal acts against those they displaced: building illegal settlements? Tisk, tisk, you shouldn't do that. Blockading their means of support, jobs, food, medicine, electricity, water? Tisk, tisk. Again and again and again with impunity -- while providing their aggressors with the guns and ammo then, as now, used against them. DO I CONDONE HAMAS? Absolutely not.  DO I CONDEMN HAMAS? No. But IMHO it's the repeated failure by the West -- and especially the US (perhaps from some sort of guilt for its failure to accept Jewish immigrants during the Holocaust) -- to long ago take strong steps to adequately and firmly address the "Palestinian Problem," and the West's willful and blind support for Israel no matter what -- that's got us to where we are now. It doesn't, of course, help that the Palestinians are Muslims.

    Since most Americans are totally ignorant when it comes to the Middle East in general and the divided Palestinian states, I STRONGLY urge them to skip the Western propaganada for a while and read this basic guide: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/3/14/a-guide-to-the-gaza-strip

  • 44.9k
    Brian
    Voted Apathetic
    10/13/2023

    It sounds more and more like Israel is about to commit mass casualties, possibly genocide, in Gaza starting as soon as their morning tomorrow.

    The international community and our US leadership needs to speak out loudly and strongly that while the horrors of last weekend were abominable and terrorism cannot be accepted, the destruction of human lives in retribution and in violation of international law is completely unacceptable.

    Netanyahu has long been a right-wing extremist when it comes to treatment of the Palestinian people, and it looks like he's finally found his reason to carry out his darkest impulses. 

    May God have mercy on the people of Gaza.

  • 6,558
    Bruce
    Voted Sad
    11/09/2023

    Money talks...  

    President Biden needs to threaten to withdraw monetary support for the Israeli GENOCIDE of Palestinians  civilians in Gaza and the West Bank unless Israel accepts a Ceasefire...  

    Let the UN provide for the needs of the surviving Ppalestinians.

  • 8,078
    M
    02/13/2024

    @causes @bart

    Bumping old threads up when new replies don't bump up within them makes these threads useless for commenters. Please, just start a new thread.

    Just look how far one must scroll to find comments. 

  • 1,763
    George
    Voted Excited
    10/09/2023

    i'm so proud of President Biden and the state department for standing with israel

  • 37
    Rebecca
    Voted Happy
    10/10/2023

    The President and many advisers are working around the clock to advocate for both hostages and Israel. Palestinian people need to be heard but do not need representation by Hamas -or Iran or other outside groups.

  • 766
    Billy
    Voted Apathetic
    Yesterday at 11:43 PM

    I am not sure how to feel about this.  He was obviously more dedicated than other protesters.  If they think this makes him a hero, then all others (Palestinian, blm, climate, open borders) are just pathetic and not really committed to what they protest for.  

    When I see a group of college students protesting on campus call out their support for Hamas and set themselves on fire, maybe this guy is a trend setter. 

    If he is just another disturbed idiot with mental problems, then it says the standards for military recruitment is sad. 

     

  • 196
    BigBlueSky
    Voted Angry
    Yesterday at 2:36 AM

    At this point I am ashamed to be sending funds for the genocide of Palestinians in GAZA. It is appaling. Isreal needs to dump Netanyahu or be forever complicit. And the US MUST STOP FUNDING IT.

  • 176
    Kelsie
    Voted Angry
    02/20/2024

    Annoyed that Causes is not starting a fresh post to get a more current picture of how people are feeling about the US response to the situation, I would wager a bet that people who responded to this back in October might have different opinions about it all by now...

  • 37
    Jhovany
    Voted Angry
    02/17/2024

    Stand up against the disproportionate actions that Israel is taking against Palestinian woman and children.

  • 1,304
    Steve
    Voted Apathetic
    02/18/2024

    Hamas is a terrorist group that murders civilians and hides under hospitals. They should be eliminated but it won't do any good and a lot of innocents people will die.

  • 318
    Tim
    Voted Angry
    02/17/2024

    Innocent citizens, on both sides, are dying.

  • 41
    Scott
    Voted Excited
    02/15/2024

    I feel we need to support Israel at all cost. HAMAS is a terrorist group and not a goverment and we can't make peace with them. 

  • 1,663
    Nancy
    Voted Angry
    02/15/2024

    Biden is a wuss. Let Israel do what they need to do. If our country was invaded like there's was, I would hope we would annihilate the attackers. I know Trump would.

  • 57
    Angelena
    Voted Angry
    02/14/2024

    Those two hostages were reported in Haaretz as rescued on Feb 2nd - The carpet bombing in Rafah after that.

    This is a lie - More Hasbara from Israel

  • 915
    Luleo
    02/14/2024

    Once again, I implore the administration DO NOT SEND MILITARY AID TO ISRAEL. NOT ONE DIME, NOT ONE WEAPON. JUST STOP.

    THERE IS NO POLITICAL REASON WORTH THE DEATHS OF INNOCENT MEN, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN. NONE WHATSOEVER.

  • 45
    Arelis
    Voted Angry
    02/14/2024

    It's been absolutely horrendous. We are financing this genocide against the Palestinian people.  This is collective punishment on a scale I have never seen before.  Over 13,000 children have been murdered, and yet the media hesitates to even refer to them as CHILDREN.  Our newsmedia on both the right and the left- from Fox, to CNN, to MSNBC, to the Guardian, to the New York Times- will NOT call this a genocide. Instead, they keep referring to it as a war.  In stark contrast to victims in the Ukraine, Palestinian victims are not said to have been killed BY Israel; instead, they are just killed.  This hand wringing over calling Israel out for its crimes against humanity is absolutely mind-blowing. I'm disgusted by the Biden Administration's statement on the 100 day mark of this genocide in which he refused to even mention the Palestinian people's suffering.  He bypassed Congress TWICE to send weapons to Israel for them to continue slaughtering people.  He instantly accepted Israel's explanations regarding the bombing of hospitals.  He has not been forceful against the brutality that Israel has been waging, or Netanyahu's stance against a two-state solution. When will we stop financing the mass slaughter of Palestinians?  We could use those billions of dollars to help our own citizens instead.  This is absolute madness.  I am also disgusted by my so-called representatives who refuse to call for a ceasefire although the majority of Americans support it. That is because AIPAC has a stranglehold on American politicians. I refuse to continue voting for Democrats who are in favor of a genocide.  They have the blood of thousands on their hands, including thousands of innocent children. 

  • 3,262
    Steph
    Voted Angry
    02/14/2024

    Unlike Fetterman and Kelly, I do NOT support Genocide.  No matter what the reason.

  • 2,685
    George
    Voted Angry
    02/14/2024

    Both sides wrong! 

  • 2,573
    530 East Hunt Highway
    Voted Angry
    02/14/2024

    You ask the same question.... do you expect different response?  Not all people dislike Americans position for the same reason.....

    The US needs to support Israel and let them defend their country their way

  • 107
    Denise
    Voted Angry
    02/14/2024

    USA response has been shameful, to say the least. It's paying for the slaughter of innocent children, moms, grandmas and other people. The blood is directly on all our hands! If we spent all those billions sent to Israel for weapons on developing sustainable energy then we wouldn't need to bribe Israel to be our pal close to the oil fields.

  • 53
    Dhiren
    Voted Angry
    02/14/2024

    I think the Netanyahu actions to remove Hamas are likely to create many more Hamas type organizations. It will not be good for Israel in the long run. It is a painful life for a palestinian at this point.

  • 8,881
    Charles
    Voted Angry
    02/13/2024

    Stop the funding and a cease fire would happen.

  • 59
    nnharb
    Voted Angry
    02/12/2024

    Strong words without actions won't change Israeli policies. Netanyahu shows no respect for the US or the world's advice and requests. The US is the sole entity that can force an end to this horrific violence. Make financial and military equipment support contingent on implementing US guidance. The US needs to be resolute, strong, and consistent. No US taxpayer wants to see their money being given irresponsibly, carte-blanche and is massive quantities to a country prosecuting an awful war resulting in unprecedented numbers of dead, injured, and displaced civilians. 

  • 2,380
    Martha
    Voted Happy
    02/13/2024

    It's getting better.  Personally, I'd not give Israel any aid given their slash and burn policies that disregards the safety of civilians.  It's way, way over the top and has been pretty much since the start of the war.  This is not to say that Humas gets any awards for their humanitarian acts.  They are just as quilty as Israel and both sides should receive no assistance.