The Latest: Israel’s Rescue Mission Saves Four Hostages, Kills Hundreds

How do you feel about the U.S. response so far?

  • 96.3k
    LeslieG
    Voted Angry
    10/13/2023

    Haven't seen any humanitarian corridors established to provide Palestians with food, water, drugs, fuel nor safe areas designated, especially all existing hospitals.

    While Israel has a right to defend itself and the US has armed Israel over the years ($3B/year) it does not have a right to bomb Palestians civilians and infrastructure which is not only a war crime but escalatory as Hezbollah may join the fray in the north even if Lebanon and Jordan don't officially.

    Asking 1M civilians to evacuate in 24 hr is not feasible even if they all had cars, had a place to go, and roads that were not bombed. Think about the planning that goes into US evacuations for fires and hurricanes where 2-3M people are involved that happen over days, to shelters with provisions where everyone has a vehicle.

    Time to remind Israel about the rules of war, and  not destroying civilians or non-military infrastructure.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/09/hurricane-ian-florida-evacuation-orders-zones/671612/

  • 2,431
    Martha
    Voted Apathetic
    10/09/2023

    To tell the truth, I'm not sure how I feel.  While, I don't condone the attack, I know that Israel is not innocent as they have launched attacks in the past that seemed unprovoked (although I don't live over there so I can't really say for sure that the past attacks on Gaza were without provocation).  All I know is that both sides have acted like spoiled toddlers and need to sit down like real adults and work out some solution that benefits both sides.  Obviously, Gaza has reasons to not like or trust Israel and likewise Israel has reasons to not like or trust Gaza, but at some point this shit has to stop to stop the senseless killing on both sides.

  • 1,846
    RoyB
    10/09/2023

    I read the whole comments.  I will look at another alternative.

    The enmity between Israel and Hamas is complex and multifaceted, butI believe that religion and claims to religious buildings certainly play a role.

    Both Israel and Hamas are religious movements with strong ties to Judaism and Islam, respectively. Jews believe that the land of Israel is promised to them by God, while Muslims believe that Jerusalem is the third holiest city in Islam. The Temple Mount/Al-Aqsa Mosque complex in Jerusalem is sacred to both Jews and Muslims, and competing claims to the site have been a source of tension and violence for centuries.

    So one could say the war going on is because of religion and land grab on both sides.  

    I don't know what the solution is other than for them to grow up and realize religions are not good reasons to go war.  Historically, many wars happened because of religions.  

  • 3,373
    Steph
    Voted Sad
    02/07/2024

    IDF continues to lie.  "They beheaded babies"  Not True.

    "There's tunnells underneath this cemetary for HAMAS"  Not true, just an excuse to dig up dead bodies and dump them like garbage on the border for psychological warfare.

     

    IDF Murder and Torture Porn Channel (Compared to Horrors of Abu Ghraib)   and they tru to excuse themselves.

     

    NO other country would be given a free pass for all of this, and neither should they.

     

     

     

  • 5,232
    Adam
    Voted Happy
    02/09/2024

    Okay, as a liberal, but also as a Jewish person, I've tried to avoid commenting on this site, but here's the thing, as I see it:
    1) you can support Israel without agreeing with its government. Frankly, I think Netanyahu is a real asshole. And that's despite the fact that we both graduated from the same high school. However, I support Israel's right to exist and defend itself against those who would see to destroy it.
    2) you can support the Palestinians without being antisemitic. I do, in fact. However, check your history. There's a reason the West Bank and Gaza strip exist and it's not because the ancestors of the current residents thought they would be nice vacation spots. Read up on Jordan's and Egypt's roles in creating these two sectors and how they responded to Palestinian requests for asylum after Israel's victory in 1948.
    3) you cannot support Hamas without being antisemitic. Or kind of horrible. As a billboard I saw the other day said, "There is no excuse for kidnapping, rape, and murder." No matter how sympathetic you may find the Palestinian cause (it is) or how horrible you may find Israel's current administration (they are), what happened on October 7 cannot be justified. Nor can a call for completely obliterating a sovereign state.

    Anyway, my 2¢.

  • 725
    Keyless
    Voted Excited
    10/17/2023

    Biden is correct. An Israeli ground invasion of Gaza could very well prove to be a collosal mistake.

    There is a good chance of it proving counterproductive in terms of subdoing Hamas;

    A good chance of serious unintended consequences,

    A chance of it sparking a larger confilct in the region, including possible world war;

    And finally, a full scale invasion in civilian territory will likely paint Israel in a very negative light internationally.

  • 8,187
    larubia
    Voted Angry
    10/09/2023

    I'm saddened by recent events and worried about the implications for the United States and our NATO allies. Although this attack seemingly did not make intelligence agency's radar, it's been brewing for a while & Isreal is not blameless, in my opinion. 

    This region has been fought over for centuries, because of religion. I find it ironic that the major tenet of each of these religions is, in a sense, "the Golden Rule".

     

    Here is a brief history:

    https://youtu.be/m19F4IHTVGc?si=2g7tcaPsWPsNfu-w

  • 49.7k
    Brian
    Voted Apathetic
    10/13/2023

    It sounds more and more like Israel is about to commit mass casualties, possibly genocide, in Gaza starting as soon as their morning tomorrow.

    The international community and our US leadership needs to speak out loudly and strongly that while the horrors of last weekend were abominable and terrorism cannot be accepted, the destruction of human lives in retribution and in violation of international law is completely unacceptable.

    Netanyahu has long been a right-wing extremist when it comes to treatment of the Palestinian people, and it looks like he's finally found his reason to carry out his darkest impulses. 

    May God have mercy on the people of Gaza.

  • 46
    Amy
    11/05/2023

    We need to use our power and influence to stop the killing of innocent civilians in Gaza Strip. Too many innocents are dying.

  • 367
    IndyVoter
    Voted Sad
    10/10/2023

    i ask my 2 Senators to Vote for any Legislation OR Military Aid that will help to Support the only Democratic Nation in the Middle East to Defend Itself Against Terrorist attacks. Military aid to  Israel is vital to the US. 

     

  • 37
    Rebecca
    Voted Happy
    10/10/2023

    The President and many advisers are working around the clock to advocate for both hostages and Israel. Palestinian people need to be heard but do not need representation by Hamas -or Iran or other outside groups.

  • 442
    Dennis
    Voted Excited
    11/28/2023

    I think Biden and his team are handling the crisis about as well as possible. Thank God he's our Prez, as Trump would likely have had us in WW 3 by now.

    I recognize that Biden's robust support of Israel visa vee Hamas has not gone down well in some quarters, but as Jennifer Rubin pointed out in a brilliant column the other day, Biden's experienced enough to realize that the only way the US would have any significant leverage over Israel is to publicly support it (within the "rules" of war"), while privately urging its leaders to make every effort to minimize civilian casualties, allow aid to Gaza, agree to a pause in hostilities to allow for critical hostage exchanges and support a 2 state solution. I'm persuaded that without Biden's robust behind the scenes activity the current extended pause, significant exchange of hostages and increased aid to the innocent Palestinians in Gaza would not have occurred. That said, the tragic loss of innocent lives in Israel as well as Gaza is appalling, and the US needs to keep up the pressure to end this war as soon as possible, cripple Hamas and push all parties to embrace the long sought 2 state solution. Otherwise, many more innocent lives in Gaza and otherwise will be tragically lost and the crisis will continue to fester for at least another generation.

  • 9,037
    Charles
    Voted Sad
    Yesterday at 12:26 PM

    Stop funding arms.  work towards 2 seperate states.

  • 9,037
    Charles
    Voted Sad
    Yesterday at 12:15 PM

    The US must stop sending Iseral funds for arms.Tax payers not pleased with so much destruction and needless deaths.

  • 608
    Arnold
    Voted Apathetic
    last Thursday

    A public service announcement for people of Gaza. Don't hide hostages in your house or IDF will come calling.

  • 1,183
    Donna
    Voted Happy
    last Wednesday

    First of all, it's been proven that the Palestinian Health Authority a/k/a Hamas, has inflated death figures purposely to get people aroung the world to feel sorry for them! Sadly they brought this upon themselves by having attacked Israel for over 75 years! Hamas started this war, not Israel! Hamas is keeping those hostages in people's homes, so to rescue them, inocents will die! That's Hamas's plan! The Palestinians were to make the West Bank their home, but there were no strong leaders there, and it's failing! Instead, terrorist groups like Hamas & Hezbollah arer still attacking Israel, and them play "Poor Me" when Israel strikes back in defense!! Hamas has hidden themselves amongst the innocent purposely, so when Israel strikes back at the point of attack, the innocent will die! As for the U.S. trying to broker a deal amongst the parties, both sides have to agree! The U.S. can't MAKE another country follow the plan, they can suggest a plan! Hamas will not speak with the Israeli government to work out a peace plan! To Hamas, the only answer is a total destruction of Israel! Hamas has already lost at least 3 wars with Israel, but still they attack, even now! The U.S.hs done all it can,but Israel will not tolerate, "From the River to the sea Palestine will be free!" Palestine has always had the option to be free in the West Bank but chose NOT TO ACCEPT that! I am now beginning to believe Israel should be saying, "From the river to the sea, Israel will be free." No one has questioned why the other Middle Eastern countries don't want the Palestinians, for that is why Jordan, before it became it's own country refused to allow Palestinians in the area, as the UN had planned! So, if the Palestinian groups continue to attack Israel, they are asking for a loss of life! If an animal continues to bite you, you put it down. Maybe that's what Israel should do to these Palestinian terrorists!

  • 1,024
    Harry
    Voted Apathetic
    last Wednesday

    I am distrustful of any count of injuries or death from Hamas. These counts have been shown to be exaggerated.

     

    Why is Hamas using Civilians as shields?

  • 1,234
    Dennis
    Voted Apathetic
    last Wednesday

    Eliminaite all P.L.O from river to sea.

  • 2,542
    Joan
    Voted Apathetic
    last Wednesday

    Given the intransigience on both sides of the conflict, any decision made by other parties is going to be heavily criticized by one side or the other. However, I believe that the US needs to let go of our blind support of Israel. They have not shown themselves to be humane or honorable of late. 

  • 3,966
    Jean
    Voted Angry
    last Wednesday

     

    Antonio Guterres:  “The speed and scale of carnage and killing in Gaza is beyond anything in my years as Secretary-General...Nowhere is safe, conditions are deplorable, public health situation is beyond crisis level. Gaza’s hospitals lie in ruins, medical supplies and fuel are scarce or non-existent ... More than one million Palestinians in Gaza do not have enough drinking water and face desperate levels of hunger. Over 50,000 children require treatment for acute malnutrition.”

     “We can no longer accept the statement that Israel is taking ‘all precautions’- this is just propaganda”, MSF emergency unit chief Brice de le Vingne 

    Independent UN Commission of Inquiry report accuses Israel of ‘extermination’ in war on Gaza: “The crimes against humanity of extermination; murder; gender persecution targeting Palestinian men and boys; forcible transfer; and torture and inhuman and cruel treatment were committed.” The COI says Israel obstructs its work and prevents investigators from accessing both Israel and the occupied Palestinian territory.

     

    250 days of war  

    ·         At least 37,202 people in Gaza documented as killed

    ·         At least 538 people in the Occupied West Bank documented as killed

    ·         At least 10,000 people are missing.

    ·         At least 15,694 children killed.

    ·         At least 33 died due to famine.

    ·         At least 498 medical staff killed.

    ·         At least 150 journalists killed.

    ·         At least 70% of victims are women and children.

    ·         At least 17,000 children orphaned or with only one parents

    ·         At least 5,000 detained in Gaza, >9,100 in the Occupied West Bank

    ·         At least 79,000 tons of explosives dropped by Israeli forces.

    ·         At least 206 archaeological and heritage sites destroyed.

    ·         At least an estimated at $33bn in losses from the destruction:.

    ·         At least 71,338 Palestinians have viral hepatitis infections due to displacement.

    ·         At least 1.5 million infectious diseases have been recorded 

    ·         At least 60,000 pregnant women in danger of losing their babies because of a lack of healthcare.

    ·         At least 350,000 chronic patients at risk due to lack of medication.

    ·         Gaza's only cancer hospital could close, around 9,000 patients to be affected

  • 442
    Dennis
    Voted Excited
    last Wednesday

    I think Biden's response so far as been pretty much spot on. He's been trying to respect Israel as our long time ally and their absolute right to respond to the awful Hamas attack, all the while reminding Israel of the importance of minimizing the loss of innocent Palestinian lives. The problem is Bibi and his right wing cabinet who wrongly, I believe, insisted on a "scorched earth" approach to defeating Hamas rather than a more targeted effort to destroy the Hamas leadership which likely would have spared the lives of countless Palestinians. The consequence of Bibi's bull headedness--caused largely by his selfish desire to remain in power and avoid criminal charges--is that much of the world has distanced itself from Israel resulting in Israel being more vulnerable than ever. I remain somewhat hopeful that efforts to stop the bloodshed and release the remaining hostages will eventually succeed, but at this point the future of the Middle East remains much in doubt, thanks to Bibi (the worst prime minister in Israel's history), despite Biden's best efforts.

  • 526
    Gramto12
    Voted Angry
    last Wednesday

    Stop financing this slaughter of Palestinians! We, the people of the United States are paying billions od dollars and creating an entire new generation of people who hate our country with good reason. Those bombs killing innocent civilians including many many children and babies have been manufactured and paid for by United States citizens. Why are we allowing this to happen? There is no such thing as "chosen people" and no such thing as "the promised land". Stop supporting this madness

  • 1,080
    SigmaTriz
    Voted Apathetic
    last Wednesday

    We have Americans as hostages.  Our Special forces should have been used to rescue some of them.  

  • 1,734
    Nancy
    Voted Apathetic
    last Wednesday

    So the refugees were not helping the hostages get out? They were hiding them?

  • 2,612
    530 East Hunt Highway
    Voted Angry
    last Wednesday

    America needs to support Israel's efforts to defend their country

  • 52
    Jillian
    Voted Excited
    last Sunday

    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-06-09-2024-61eb1be9a9d0cf2dbf250cd4a8ed4dbf

    this is unacceptable. Stop providing any offensive weapons to Israel. They're right to exist is unquestioned, but it does not give them the right to commit genocide against a people that they have now displaced over 1 million people. That's just not a reasonable response.

  • 119
    byron
    Voted Apathetic
    last Monday

    I stand with Israel. 

  • 2,431
    Martha
    Voted Apathetic
    last Monday

    If it were me I'd cut off all aid to Israel until the PM of Israel instituted an immediate ceasefire and worked on an agreement to end the war and create an independent state for Palestine.  With that said, I believe that Biden and other countries have tried to obtain this outcome but the PM of Israel seems hellbent on eliminating all people who live in Gaza.  I'm not sure what else Biden and other countries can do to help move this process along.  I think they've done what they can, but when you have a leader who wants to eliminate a whole population, there's not much that can be done other than go to war with that country which is not even feisible.

  • 49.7k
    Brian
    Voted Apathetic
    06/06/2024

    Well, it's starting to look more and more like Israel is manipulating our politics.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/05/israel-targeted-lawmakers-in-disinformation-campaign-00161906

     

    I hope these lawmakers are aware how they've been played.

  • 905
    Bobbie
    Voted Angry
    06/05/2024

    Permanent cease fire now. Two state solution now.

  • 134
    millepilot
    Voted Angry
    06/04/2024

    "urge in one hand poop in the other" joe and co.

    "biden" and the "us" for rhat matter are tools in this holocausttaking place in semi lain sight.

  • 239
    Edward
    Voted Apathetic
    06/04/2024

    This is crazy hard and we are doing the best we can.

    We need to stop the killing and stop this forever cyle. This is near imposible when the leaders of Hamas and key leaders in the Israeli goverment prefer/ need the war and violence to stay in power.