Iranian Woman Dies After Arrest by 'Morality Police,' Sparking Protests

Should the U.S. stop negotiating with Iran over its human rights violations?

  • 42.1k
    jimK
    09/21/2022

    Consider this event and other like events in Iran to be an ominous foreshadowing of where the Christian Nationalists are taking this country. We cannot allow the wealthy conservatives to over-rule the will of the people to force the government and our laws to be a reflection of their 'one true' religion that will over time make religious arguements to over-rule most other rights, declare holy wars or conduct crusades to vanquish the the 'unwashed' non-true-believers.

    It was the genius of the founders and the framers that individual religious beliefs are protected rights, all religions - and that no specific religioun had any right to enforce their beliefs upon others who choose to have other or no religiuos beliefs; especially by allowing any specific religioun to dominate our governance and our laws.

    Our Christian Nationalist Federalist Society groomed, selected, and nominated Supreme Court Justices are already modifying the laws to take women's rights away. These 'Inquisitors' are little different than Ayatolhs and Mullahs that interpret God's will for the masses often with some round about logic to explain why drastic actions are needed that violate the very scriptures that profess guides them.

    It is a White Nationalism and Christian Nationlism movement that the very wealthy conservatives are funding for reasons that have nothing to do with their own or any other religious beliefs, The religious beliefs of select groups are being expoloited for these conservative 'investors'  to better control the masses - all to support their lust for greater and greater wealth.

  • 51.1k
    Brian
    Voted Oppose
    09/21/2022

    No, we need to engage with Iran to keep them from their nuclear ambitions and we likely won't get anywhere with their human rights issues.

    Since a majority of the population of Iran is under 40, it's only a matter of time until the people institute change, and hopefully that will help them and the US.

    I'm glad to see these women standing up for their rights and protesting, and I hope this is the beginning of that change.

  • 57
    Eugene
    Voted Support
    09/21/2022

    Irans government is a strong supporter of terrorism around the world. Even in their own country the kill and terrorize, torture, and kill its own citizens 

  • 98.0k
    LeslieG
    09/21/2022

    The PBS interview of Nazanin Boniadi best represents my understanding of the situation in Iran regarding hijabs per my Iranian friends,

    "before 1979, when women had the freedom to choose, you saw a coexistence of women who chose to wear the hijab and women who didn't wear the hijab coexisting peacefully together. There was a freedom of choice."

    "I think to a call it a cultural dress code of kinds, which the former Foreign Minister Zarif and countless other Iranian officials have tried to sort of tell the wide world, the global public, that's a myth, that's a lie, because what kind of cultural norm has to be controlled through batons and through threats of death and imprisonment?"

    "You don't need to subjugate people for a cultural norm to exist, if the majority of women actually chose the hijab. But what you're seeing is people risking their lives, you're seeing people taking to the streets and risking imprisonment."

    "A brave Iranian actress from inside Iran, Katayoun Riahi, recently gave an interview where she didn't wear the hijab, in solidarity with Mahsa and this movement."

    "And she said it best. She said people are no longer fearful of prison because Iran has become a prison itself."

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/protests-erupt-in-iran-after-death-of-woman-arrested-for-violating-dress-code

  • 51.1k
    Brian
    Voted Oppose
    09/22/2022

    I'm just waiting to see the first GOP governor establish a "morality police" to patrol school classrooms and restrooms. They're already trying to patrol doctor's offices and internet searches.

    It's only a matter of time at the rate DeSantis and Abbortt are going. 

  • 32
    Zhaleh
    Voted Support
    09/24/2022

    To the all Humans on the World: 

    please Support the IRANIAN  who Are protesting again : HUMAN/ WOMEN RIGHTS ABUSES 🙏🇮🇷🙏

  • 7,796
    PLZ
    Voted Oppose
    09/26/2022

    How do you negotiate with a country who's motto is "death to America"?  While I feel for the women who have to live under such scrutiny, our own country is exhibiting something just as bad with their elimination of certain gender identifications. Our military has become a playground for whimps.  This administration has done nothing but weaken our stance globally. We are no longer to be feared, but are being laughed at.  Iran is accumulating enough uranium to fuel a nuclear bomb that may be detrimental to our country.

  • 1,392
    anihundt
    09/26/2022

    Why is the USA negotiating with Iran over human rights violation. USA violated my rights over medical treatments for reproduction. 

    USA needs to clean their house.

  • 3,688
    MaryA
    09/26/2022

    @jimK, Your views are, once again disgustingly distorted.  I would like to know what religion is For abortion in this country?  I would like to know what the percentage of that religion is in this country?  And I would like to know what religion is being dismissed or terrorized?  I can answer that one for you ... it's Christians!  And who's doing the terrorizing?  The very people who accuse Us of taking away Your rights.  Your rights, according to you, is to wait till a Baby, with a heartbeat and fully developed body, comes Full Term, dismember the baby by pulling off their legs or arms or both.  Puncturing their kidney's or liver or other organs.  Then grabbing the head and cutting open the scull to suck the brains out!!!  And the only difference to people like You and the ones you stick up for and the ones choose life, is "one minute"!  "One Minute"!  The one minute before that baby is born is when you torture it with the most painful death imaginable!  The one minute after that baby is born, is when our laws would considered this Murder.  In fact, if someone should kill a pregnant women that's a double homicide.  What does that make you?  That "Right", as you call it, is Still a right for women.  Only at a state level, at 15 weeks or less instead of 9 months.  And who do you condemn for this?  The people who are trying to save these little living beings from this torturous painful disgusting death!  Those terrible Christians!  Not Just Christians ... but Christian Nationlist!  But that's ok!  You can call me a Christian Nationalist anytime.  Because being a Christian is having the qualities taught by Jesus Christ which is love, kindness, humanity, etc.  And Nationalism is devotion to ones nation, patriotism and the advocacy of national independence.  If that's a bad thing I still accept the title.  You can use all the virtue signaling and Bible verses you want to throw at us that you think contradicts our beliefs.  The fact is whether your Jewish, Christian, Muslim or anything in between, you have no morale excuse for murder.  It sounds like your doctor is Stacey Abrams from Virginia, who says a heartbeat at six weeks is a manufactured sound so men can take control of women's bodies, and your science is from Anthony Fauci's Gain of Functions!  And your heartless hypocrisy is from being a heathen!

  • 20.1k
    Kristen
    09/25/2022

    NICE.  More, please.  MUCH, MUCH, more.

    Force these neanderthal pieces of garbage to extinction.  Time to EVOLVE, people.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/9/24/2125006/-Iran-update-As-protests-continue-to-grow-government-reportedly-forced-from-Kurdish-city

     

     

  • 32
    Khairul
    Voted Oppose
    09/24/2022

    This is their relegation matter. America shouldn't interfere their internal problems.

  • 2,502
    michele
    09/25/2022

    You NEVER stop negotiating and trying to make things work. It's not about whether you like them or not. To do this based upon human rights violations is laughably ridiculous. Just where do we get the authority to judge what anyone does after all the destruction the US is responsible for all over the world, and continues to engage in. We have violated more human's rights than all other's combined when all cards are on the table. We always overlook our winning card, Guantanamo Bay. The arrogance it takes to criticize others on rights violation is just astounding, it's beyond hypocrisy and is a shameful blight upon the US. We need a good helping of humble pie. It would be wise to eat it before we end up with pie in our face.

  • 8,510
    larubia
    09/23/2022

    This should come with a warning label to all who support women in the USA! It was only last year that Iran restricted abortions. 

    "UN human rights experts* ...called on Iran to repeal a wide-ranging new law that severely restricts access to abortion, contraception, voluntary sterilization services and related information, in direct violation of women’s human rights under international law."

     

    If your appalled by what's happening in Iran, you need to heed the warnings that are already happening in our own country...& VOTE!!!

     

    https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2022/01/iran-repeal-crippling-new-anti-abortion-law-un-experts


    Relgion does not belong in politics. Our forefathers had it right!!!

  • 47
    Attila
    09/23/2022

    This inhumanity by humanity MUST END! Not only in Iran but everywhere on the planet. Come on people, get it together! Be grateful for life on the planet that gave/gives us life! STOP THE VIOLENCE!

  • 9,086
    Charles
    Voted Oppose
    09/23/2022

    We need to continue negotiations to repair the damage done by the prvious ADM.

  • 2,951
    Arlys
    09/23/2022

    My heart goes out to this woman's family and friends.  And may Allah bless the morality police for allowing this woman to be come a martyr for her cause.  It will take the citizens of Iran to change the way things work in their country just like any other country does.  "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink it".  We cannot be allowed to control the thoughts and beilefs of others even though they are different from our own.  We have enough problems in this country to deal with and should butt out of another country's business until we take care of our own. We are only one drop in the bucket of the world but little by little, we can make a difference.  "The starting point is always with the self."  If rebellion or civil war is called for to get things done for the betterment of ALL, so be it.  I'm willing to fight for what I feel is best for all.  Are you?

  • 3,747
    Kevin
    Voted Oppose
    09/23/2022

    I don't think stopping negotiations is the right way to react to the horrible crimes of the evil "religious right" of the U.S. and Iran.

  • 3,979
    Jean
    Voted Oppose
    09/22/2022

    CAUSES ASKS: "Should the U.S. stop negotiating with Iran over its human rights violations?"  ME: No.  Horrific as the situation is, trying to resolve the trump fucked up Iran nuclear deal is probably more important. 

  • 20.1k
    Kristen
    09/22/2022

    "On Sept. 13, Mahsa Amini, a Kurdish woman from northern Iran, was in Tehran to visit with her brother. She was walking with him near the entrance to a metro station when members of a “guidance patrol,” also known as the morality police, surrounded them. The religious police complained that Amini wasn’t properly wearing her hijab—a head covering women are required to wear under Iran’s strict religious dress codes. Even though her brother tried to stop them, the members of the patrol arrested Amini and took her away. Three days later, still in detention for the crime of not properly wearing her head scarf, she was dead."

    https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/9/21/2124411/-What-started-with-the-murder-of-one-woman-has-turned-into-protests-that-threaten-to-overturn-Iran

  • 5,254
    Adam
    Voted Oppose
    09/22/2022

    Sadly, I think it's a reason to continue negotiating. Leaving the table will not change a thing in Iran.

    No, they can't be trusted, but failing to engage them just leaves them to their own devices.

  • 2,934
    Gdbondii
    Voted Oppose
    09/22/2022

    Keep talking but always bring this up

  • 782
    Mark
    09/22/2022

    Do the men have a dress code?

  • 382
    James
    09/22/2022

    Iran has never followed through on its signed obligations to any country and has lied and cheated on all previous agreements.  Just keep a eye on them and stop giving them front page coverage, that is what they want.  A country that cannot be trusted by there agreements, has no valid status in the world.

  • 1,900
    Dawn
    Voted Support
    09/22/2022

    We can't call a country with such horrific abuse an ally & expect our other allies to respect us.